install F36 KDE alongside Win 10

2022-08-11 Thread Anil Felipe Duggirala
hello everyone,
I have done this before, but now I have one big doubt when completing 
installation of F36 alongside Win 10.
I shrunk one of the Win partitions to create good space for my Fedora 
installation.
I have booted the Live installer and entered the Installation destination 
section (screenshot here: 
https://user.fm/files/v2-f5626c9be22f21a346c100750161ab0e/nh7b5m4y3fv6uixreqdx.png).
 If I select Automatic, will Fedora be automatically installed in the biggest 
unallocated space? and this space partitioned as per Fedora default? 
I have seen instructions where people select Custom, and manually create 
partitions, I am way too nervous about partitioning the disk myself. I don't 
want to mess up the Win installation that has taken me time to setup. I don't 
remember having to this before. 
thank you,



Anil F
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puzzling message/suggestion during weekly patches.

2022-08-11 Thread home user

(f35)

While, as root, doing my weekly patches (dnf upgrade), I get the 
following message:


-

  Upgrading: usbredir-0.12.0-2.fc35.x86_64 


40/115
  Upgrading: setup-2.14.1-1.fc35.noarch 


41/115
warning: /etc/shadow created as /etc/shadow.rpmnew

  Running scriptlet: setup-2.14.1-1.fc35.noarch 


41/115
WARNING: local host name ([private]) is not qualified; see cf/README: 
WHO AM I?

/etc/aliases: 77 aliases, longest 10 bytes, 778 bytes total
  Upgrading: rsyslog-8.2204.0-2.fc35.x86_64

-

What is the message telling me to read, and where is it?  I see no 
README file in directory '/', in "/etc", or in root's home.  I see no 
directory "cf" in '/', in root's home, or in "/etc".

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Re: install F36 KDE alongside Win 10

2022-08-11 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 12:52 PM Anil Felipe Duggirala <
anilduggir...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> hello everyone,
> I have done this before, but now I have one big doubt when completing
> installation of F36 alongside Win 10.
> I shrunk one of the Win partitions to create good space for my Fedora
> installation.
>

I have done this many times.  Being of the belts and suspenders mondest,
especially where Windows is involved,
I always use the Fedora Live OS to double check that the space is
recognized as unused by linux before running
the installer.


> I have booted the Fedora Live installer and entered the Installation
> destination section (screenshot here:
> https://user.fm/files/v2-f5626c9be22f21a346c100750161ab0e/nh7b5m4y3fv6uixreqdx.png).
> If I select Automatic, will Fedora be automatically installed in the
> biggest unallocated space? and this space partitioned as per Fedora
> default?
> I have seen instructions where people select Custom, and manually create
> partitions, I am way too nervous about partitioning the disk myself. I
> don't want to mess up the Win installation that has taken me time to setup.
> I don't remember having to this before.
>

I almost always stick with the defaults, in part because I want my system
configured in a way similar to what my colleagues have.

PS -- many systems with Windows installed the vendor provide a recovery
partition.  In practice, I have only used the recovery partition when
transferring a system to someone else.  Microsoft provides updated
installers which avoid the long many reboots process needed to use the
recovery partition version .

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Re: puzzling message/suggestion during weekly patches.

2022-08-11 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 12:41 PM home user  wrote:
> WARNING: local host name ([private]) is not qualified; see cf/README:
> WHO AM I?
> /etc/aliases: 77 aliases, longest 10 bytes, 778 bytes total

That message is from sendmail, not setup.  On Fedora, if you install
the sendmail-doc package, then cf/README is installed as
/usr/share/doc/sendmail/README.cf; see line 372 of
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/sendmail/blob/rawhide/f/sendmail.spec.
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Bluetooth Earbuds

2022-08-11 Thread Clifford Snow
I'm trying to use earbuds on a Fedora 36 laptop but I'm unable to get sound
out of the earbuds. Gnome Settings shows the ear buds paired but nothing in
type. The sound settings only offer the laptop speaker.

Any suggestions on getting the earbuds to work?

Thanks,
Clifford

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Re: install F36 KDE alongside Win 10

2022-08-11 Thread Anil Felipe Duggirala
Thanks for your response George. but your answer doesn't tell me what to do.
If I select automatic, and there is space available for Fedora, will it proceed 
to install F alongside Win in a dual boot setup?
Or will it clean the whole disk and leave only Fedora?
Thank you.
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Re: Bluetooth Earbuds

2022-08-11 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 13:11:41 -0700
Clifford Snow  wrote:

> I'm trying to use earbuds on a Fedora 36 laptop but I'm unable to get
> sound out of the earbuds. Gnome Settings shows the ear buds paired
> but nothing in type. The sound settings only offer the laptop speaker.
> 
> Any suggestions on getting the earbuds to work?

Your laptop has Bluetooth hardware, yes?
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Re: install F36 KDE alongside Win 10

2022-08-11 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 5:25 PM Anil Felipe Duggirala <
anilduggir...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Thanks for your response George. but your answer doesn't tell me what to
> do.
> If I select automatic, and there is space available for Fedora, will it
> proceed to install F alongside Win in a dual boot setup?
> Or will it clean the whole disk and leave only Fedora?
>

If there is anything of value on the disk, don't update without a backup.

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/latest/install-guide/install/Installing_Using_Anaconda/

With automatic partitioning, you can also select the I would like to make
additional
space available option below. Use this option if you want to reclaim space
from an existing
partitioning layout - for example, if a disk you want to use already
contains a different operating
system, and you want to make this system’s partitions smaller to allow more
room for Fedora.
The Reclaim space dialog which opens if this option is selected is
described later in this section.

I prefer to use Windows tools to make a Windows partition smaller -- Fedora
developers can never know
what details of the Windows partition layout and format might change.

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Re: Bluetooth Earbuds

2022-08-11 Thread Clifford Snow
Sent from my Android phone.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2022, 1:46 PM Geoffrey Leach 
wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 13:11:41 -0700
> Clifford Snow  wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to use earbuds on a Fedora 36 laptop but I'm unable to get
> > sound out of the earbuds. Gnome Settings shows the ear buds paired
> > but nothing in type. The sound settings only offer the laptop speaker.
> >
> > Any suggestions on getting the earbuds to work?
>
> Your laptop has Bluetooth hardware, yes?
>


Yes, the laptop has Bluetooth and is used for the mouse.

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Re: install F36 KDE alongside Win 10

2022-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2022-08-11 at 15:24 -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote:
> Thanks for your response George. but your answer doesn't tell me what
> to do.
> If I select automatic, and there is space available for Fedora, will
> it proceed to install F alongside Win in a dual boot setup?
> Or will it clean the whole disk and leave only Fedora?
> Thank you.

I suggest you try it. The last time I did this was many years ago, but
IIRC Fedora did not blindly remove an existing Windows partition (or
other Linux for that matter). In any case it will tell you what it's
about to do and ask you to confirm.

poc
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Re: install F36 KDE alongside Win 10

2022-08-11 Thread Stephen Morris

On 12/8/22 07:23, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2022-08-11 at 15:24 -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote:

Thanks for your response George. but your answer doesn't tell me what
to do.
If I select automatic, and there is space available for Fedora, will
it proceed to install F alongside Win in a dual boot setup?
Or will it clean the whole disk and leave only Fedora?
Thank you.

I suggest you try it. The last time I did this was many years ago, but
IIRC Fedora did not blindly remove an existing Windows partition (or
other Linux for that matter). In any case it will tell you what it's
about to do and ask you to confirm.
It may depend on what type of install you want to do. I recently 
installed F36 on a new system I had built, where I was putting Windows 
Drive C, Ubuntu and Fedora boot partitions on an SSD, had 2 3TB disks 
for windows data, a 1TB disk for the rest of Ubuntu and a 3TB disk for 
the rest of Fedora. Windows and Ubuntu were installed first. I just 
pointed the installer at the partition I wanted Fedora installed in, 
which was after configuring the partition as GPT as a Dos partition can 
only address 2TB is storage, and told the installer I wanted the 
partition on the 3TB drive as "/", and the partition on the ssd as 
"/boot". Having done this the installer refused to do the install 
because being a UEFI install the installer wanted a mounted UEFI system 
partition, so I had to reduce the size of the "/boot" partition to 
create a 100MB partition as an EFIOS (I think) partition specified to be 
mounted as the installer wanted, and then it proceeded to completion. As 
Patrick said, I would expect the automatic installation to set up the 
necessary partitions for you, but I don't know for sure as I have never 
done an automatic install, I have always specified the layout I wanted 
explicitly.


regards,
Steve

poc
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Re: Firefox issue

2022-08-11 Thread Stephen Morris

On 11/8/22 04:42, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 8/8/22 04:42, Andras Simon wrote:

2022-08-08 8:09 UTC+02:00, Samuel Sieb :

On 8/7/22 01:38, Andras Simon wrote:

If you click on "Lean more...", you'll end up in a few steps on this
page:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Certificate-contains-the-same-serial-number-as-another-certificate 


which *may* help.


The error message that page shows is slightly different.  I don't know
if that's because it's an earlier version of the message or this is a
different case.  Regardless, the suggested solution is not relevant to
this issue.


The error code is the same, and, moreover, mozilla sends you to this
page, so I guess every investigation should start there. Of course it
may still turn out to be irrelevant.


Yes, I did start there.  And it's the solution listed on that page 
that I was saying was not relevant.
I mentioned in an earlier thread that I tried this site is Firefox 
105.0a1 and it worked fine. After doing this I fired up the firefox 
version from the repositories and went to the site and it had no issues 
either. As also mentioned earlier the issue may be location dependent as 
I'm in Australia.


regards,
Steve


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Re: install F36 KDE alongside Win 10

2022-08-11 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 8:08 PM Stephen Morris 
wrote:

> On 12/8/22 07:23, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Thu, 2022-08-11 at 15:24 -0500, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote:
> >> Thanks for your response George. but your answer doesn't tell me what
> >> to do.
> >> If I select automatic, and there is space available for Fedora, will
> >> it proceed to install F alongside Win in a dual boot setup?
> >> Or will it clean the whole disk and leave only Fedora?
> >> Thank you.
> > I suggest you try it. The last time I did this was many years ago, but
> > IIRC Fedora did not blindly remove an existing Windows partition (or
> > other Linux for that matter). In any case it will tell you what it's
> > about to do and ask you to confirm.
> It may depend on what type of install you want to do. I recently
> installed F36 on a new system I had built, where I was putting Windows
> Drive C, Ubuntu and Fedora boot partitions on an SSD, had 2 3TB disks
> for windows data, a 1TB disk for the rest of Ubuntu and a 3TB disk for
> the rest of Fedora. Windows and Ubuntu were installed first. I just
> pointed the installer at the partition I wanted Fedora installed in,
> which was after configuring the partition as GPT as a Dos partition can
> only address 2TB is storage, and told the installer I wanted the
> partition on the 3TB drive as "/", and the partition on the ssd as
> "/boot". Having done this the installer refused to do the install
> because being a UEFI install the installer wanted a mounted UEFI system
> partition, so I had to reduce the size of the "/boot" partition to
> create a 100MB partition as an EFIOS (I think) partition specified to be
> mounted as the installer wanted, and then it proceeded to completion.


All my installs on mixed OS systems have used the existing EFI partition
with Windows or macOS. One thing to check is Windows fast-boot, which
is really hibernation and must be disabled or the system will recover
directly into Windows.


> As Patrick said, I would expect the automatic installation to set up the
> necessary partitions for you, but I don't know for sure as I have never
> done an automatic install, I have always specified the layout I wanted
> explicitly.
>

When you install onto a bare disk it does create the partitions. I like to
have a bootable USB drive (currently I'm using a USB-C adapter with
an NVME SSD). for rescue/troubleshooting.

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Re: Bluetooth Earbuds

2022-08-11 Thread Clifford Snow
SOLVED

While these were paired sometime ago, they must have dropped off. I
simply repaired the earbuds and now they work just fine.

Should have done the obvious first thing.

Best,
Clifford

On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 2:22 PM Clifford Snow 
wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my Android phone.
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022, 1:46 PM Geoffrey Leach 
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 13:11:41 -0700
>> Clifford Snow  wrote:
>>
>> > I'm trying to use earbuds on a Fedora 36 laptop but I'm unable to get
>> > sound out of the earbuds. Gnome Settings shows the ear buds paired
>> > but nothing in type. The sound settings only offer the laptop speaker.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions on getting the earbuds to work?
>>
>> Your laptop has Bluetooth hardware, yes?
>>
>
>
> Yes, the laptop has Bluetooth and is used for the mouse.
>
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Re: puzzling message/suggestion during weekly patches.

2022-08-11 Thread home user

On 8/11/22 2:09 PM, Jerry James wrote:

On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 12:41 PM home user  wrote:

WARNING: local host name ([private]) is not qualified; see cf/README:
WHO AM I?
/etc/aliases: 77 aliases, longest 10 bytes, 778 bytes total


That message is from sendmail, not setup.  On Fedora, if you install
the sendmail-doc package, then cf/README is installed as
/usr/share/doc/sendmail/README.cf; see line 372 of
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/sendmail/blob/rawhide/f/sendmail.spec.


Thank-you, Jerry.

I installed sendmail-doc and read the "WHO AM I" section of README.cf.
It says gethostname is called to get the host name, then the result of 
that is sent to "gethostbyname" to get the fully qualified domain name. 
 My C/C++ skills are very rusty and out-of-date, but I succeeded in 
writing a C++ program to see what's going on.  It took a while!  The 
hostname returned by gethostname is correct.  But the h_name returned by 
gethostbyname is the same as what was returned by gethostname.  It was 
not a fully qualified domain name.


I'm no sys.admin.  I do not understand what the "WHO AM I" section of 
README.cf is saying to do in this situation.  HELP!


By the way, I was able to use mailx to send a test message from me (a 
regular user) to root, and root received the message properly.  Also, I 
only use mailx for messages from rkhunter and gsmartcontrol.

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Re: puzzling message/suggestion during weekly patches.

2022-08-11 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 8/11/22 20:42, home user wrote:

On 8/11/22 2:09 PM, Jerry James wrote:

On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 12:41 PM home user  wrote:

WARNING: local host name ([private]) is not qualified; see cf/README:
WHO AM I?
/etc/aliases: 77 aliases, longest 10 bytes, 778 bytes total


That message is from sendmail, not setup.  On Fedora, if you install
the sendmail-doc package, then cf/README is installed as
/usr/share/doc/sendmail/README.cf; see line 372 of
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/sendmail/blob/rawhide/f/sendmail.spec.


Thank-you, Jerry.

I installed sendmail-doc and read the "WHO AM I" section of README.cf.
It says gethostname is called to get the host name, then the result of 
that is sent to "gethostbyname" to get the fully qualified domain name. 
  My C/C++ skills are very rusty and out-of-date, but I succeeded in 
writing a C++ program to see what's going on.  It took a while!  The 
hostname returned by gethostname is correct.  But the h_name returned by 
gethostbyname is the same as what was returned by gethostname.  It was 
not a fully qualified domain name.


I'm no sys.admin.  I do not understand what the "WHO AM I" section of 
README.cf is saying to do in this situation.  HELP!


By the way, I was able to use mailx to send a test message from me (a 
regular user) to root, and root received the message properly.  Also, I 
only use mailx for messages from rkhunter and gsmartcontrol.


It's just a warning.  If everything you use is working, then don't worry 
about it.

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Re: puzzling message/suggestion during weekly patches.

2022-08-11 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2022-08-11 at 21:42 -0600, home user wrote:
> I installed sendmail-doc and read the "WHO AM I" section of README.cf.
> It says gethostname is called to get the host name, then the result of 
> that is sent to "gethostbyname" to get the fully qualified domain name. 
>   My C/C++ skills are very rusty and out-of-date, but I succeeded in 
> writing a C++ program to see what's going on.  It took a while!  The 
> hostname returned by gethostname is correct.  But the h_name returned by 
> gethostbyname is the same as what was returned by gethostname.  It was 
> not a fully qualified domain name.
> 
> I'm no sys.admin.  I do not understand what the "WHO AM I" section of 
> README.cf is saying to do in this situation.  HELP!
> 
> By the way, I was able to use mailx to send a test message from me (a 
> regular user) to root, and root received the message properly.  Also, I 
> only use mailx for messages from rkhunter and gsmartcontrol.

If you're only using mail internally, and messages are coming through,
it probably doesn't matter about the warning.  And I thought the
defaults for sendmail only worked with localhost, anyway (requiring you
to intervene with manual configuration to be less secure).

If you want to send mail to the outside world through it, you'd need to
configure everything correctly.

My previous experiments with sendmail and its documentation determined
that it *discovers* its addressing.  It knows its IP, it does a reverse
DNS query to find the hostname for that IP, and it confirms back in the
other direction (asks what IP belongs to that hostname).  It wants the
same answer in both directions.

i.e.  If it were on 192.168.1.1 and does a reverse search to find its
hostname (example.com), doing a forward search for the IP for
example.com needs to return the same 192.168.1.1 IP address.

It doesn't have to query a DNS server for that, it can use the info in
your /etc/hosts file.

Again, if you're only doing internal mail, just ensure that you have
the minimum of this in /etc/hosts:

127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.localdomain
::1 localhost localhost.localdomain

Don't put actual hostnames in with those loopback addresses.  If you do
want hostnames in /etc/hosts file (e.g. for local machines), they
should be separate, like this:

192.168.1.1  example.com  example

The actual interface IP address, then the desired full address for that
interface, and then any aliases you want to use can be listed after.

When something consults the /etc/hosts file to find the name for the
IP, the first name is returned.  Whem something consults the /etc/hosts
file to find the IP for a hostname, any name right of the IP matches.

If your server is DHCP managed, set the DHCP server to always give it
the same addresses.

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