Re: which antivirus sw for Fedora?

[Joerg Lechner via users]

 

 

 

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Verschickt: Di, 4. Sept 2018 6:52
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> I have to use antivirus sw

what means "sw"

F


Hi
sw = software
Kind regards

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Re: Startup messages shown twice on EFI boot

[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 06:17:51PM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:


Well, nice to know I'm not alone but looks like I'm no closer to figuring
out the cause...


How can we get anywhere near to close to solve the issue if we don't
have any data about what's going on in your system?

For a closer look: (Some of the following probably better to run after
rebooting the machine; and I run most of it as root - Please see the
man pages for these tools):

systemd-analyze
systemd-analyze blame
journalctl -b -o short-full
cat /var/log/boot.log
journalctl -b -p err

---
Graphical detailed view about your system booting up:
systemd-analyze plot > /tmp/boot.svg

then as an underprivileged user something like:
firefox /tmp/boot.svg

---

Have you seen that?:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1236664

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/338830/each-service-runs-twice-while-booting-fedora-25/340960

https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?313020-Each-service-runs-twice-while-booting-Fedora-25

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Re: anaconda problem with local repo

[George N. White III]

On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 00:52, Louis Garcia  wrote:

> Having many boxes to setup I decided to setup a local repo of fedora. I
> setup vsftpd for this repo. I won't go into every step unless someone asks.
> Either through pxe or netinst boot I'm able to boot into anacanda and setup
> everything except the software packages. Everything in the software spoke
> is empty. Then I point anaconda to another mirror and software spoke is
> fine.
>
> How I populate my copy:
> #rsync -av rsync://
> mirror.utexas.edu/fedora/linux/releases/28/Everything/x86_64/os/
> /srv/repos/fedora/28/x86_64/os
>
> I think I'm missing something in my repo.
>

Yes, see:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring#How_can_someone_make_a_private_mirror.3F


>
> Thanks.
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Re: Startup messages shown twice on EFI boot

[Robbi Nespu]

> How can we get anywhere near to close to solve the issue if we don't
> have any data about what's going on in your system?
> 
> For a closer look: (Some of the following probably better to run after
> rebooting the machine; and I run most of it as root - Please see the
> man pages for these tools):
> 
> systemd-analyze
> systemd-analyze blame
> journalctl -b -o short-full
> cat /var/log/boot.log

You need root privileges to view boot.log and the file are ANSI. Try with:

$ sudo less -r /var/log/boot.log

P/s : I have same problem 2 line when booting but the log just show 1
line but I just ignore it.

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Re: scp over wireless is slow

[bruce]

On Mon, Sep 3, 2018 at 6:18 PM, Cameron Simpson  wrote:
> On 03Sep2018 13:07, Jakub Jelen  wrote:
>>
>> SCP protocol is really slow, especially on networks with high latency
>> (wireless). The reason why is mostly the size of buffers, which is very
>> small and SCP waits for every part to be confirmed by the remote host
>> before sending another part.
>
>
> This is categorically false. I've just read through the code to confirm.
>
> The only round trip stuff in scp is at the start and end of the file
> transfer, when it sends the starting file permissions and checks receipt,
> and at the very end. During the transfer it just chucks data at the TCP
> connection as fast as it will accept it. Its internal buffer isn't
> particularly large, but that is irrelevant because (a) the OS reads from
> files in a sensible fashion and (b) TCP colesces writes into the same packet
> if they arrive fast enough and there's room.
>
> So if you're transferring a lot of quite small files, the start/end file
> transaction can get in the way.  But large files go through pretty much at
> the network speed (or the disc speed if the discs are slow and the network
> is fast).
>
> In years of using scp, it has always been pretty fast. And rsync notably
> slower for complete-file copies.
>
> I think Jakub has been misreading the code, probably the atomicio()
> function, which _doesn't_ do an end-to-end delivery of the current buffer;
> it is just a wrapper around the OS read/write call, which may return a short
> result if its underlying buffer empties/fills. That is a _local_ buffer,
> such as the TCP send buffer.
>
> Also, calling a home LAN wireless connection high latency is a bit special
> purpose. It may be higher latency than your wired ethernet, but it is still
> pretty low.
>
> By comparison, I just copied a decent sized file, using scp, over a
> satellite link. Round trip packet time of 600ms-700ms best case. Throughput
> was consistent with my ISP speeds: 5Mbps up, 25Mbps down.
>
> The network packet latency is _not_ a particular issue with scp, because it
> doesn't do the per-buffer end-to-end checks Jakub imagines.
>
>> You can google "scp speed" and you will get a lot of answers, sometimes
>> wrongly accusing the encryption or the compression, but really, the RTT
>> and buffers are the fault as I write here:
>>
>> https://superuser.com/a/1101203/466930
>
>
> I read that. It's a about a paragraph of text with no discussion.
>
>> SCP should be really used only as fast hack for copying files in fast
>> local networks. For all other cases, use SFTP or rsync if you need
>> something more complex.
>
>
> Really, no. Use whatever works best. Scp is fine for large files. For
> incremental change, use rsync (which does a lot of checksum passing to skip
> identical data areas) and for lots of small files use tar or cpio piped over
> ssh, which removes another layer of round trip latency (the per-file sync).
>
> Cheers,
> Cameron Simpson 
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Hey Cameron,

Sounds like you and Jakub have differing analysis of the issue.

Would you consider posting what you've written to Superuser as well..
to give others a shot at seeing what you've stated. Someone looking to
google on the issue might not see what you posted in this thread.

thanks!
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Re: which antivirus sw for Fedora?

[George N. White III]

On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 15:45, Doug  wrote:

>
> On 09/03/2018 05:16 AM, Joerg Lechner via users wrote:
>
> Hi,
> doing onlinebanking in my bank contract I read, I have to use antivirus
> sw, otherwise I would be responsible for probably misuse. So far I made
> onlinebanking, when I am logged in in Fedora without antivirus sw. But to
> be correct, as the bank says, I would like to use antivirus sw. For me it's
> no problem to have i.e a F28 installation with antivirus sw separatly for
> "critical" use of F28. I have F28 on an usb flash medium, and 32GB flash
> media are not too expensive, so fo all other usages of Fedora I don't need
> antivirus sw and can use another Fedora installation.  Which antivirus sw
> should I prefer?
> Kind regards
>
> When I have asked about AV software for Linux, I am usually referred to
> Clamav. I assume all distros have it available.
>

ClamAV is widely supported, but, like all AV software, is "high
maintenance" due to the need to
constantly update pattern databases and the overhead of scanning.   If a
linux system has files
that have been touched by a Windows system then it is a good idea to use
clamav.  One approach
is to schedule scans of your "at risk" directories for off-peak times.
Windows AV sw normally combines
on-demand scans with periodic full filesystem scans.   Several years ago
ClamAV had problems
with on-demand scanning but is now using fanotify:

https://blog.clamav.net/2016/03/configuring-on-access-scanning-in-clamav.html

MacOS has ClamAV. A mac user I know was at a meeting with high-ranking
military and
government participants.   The meeting documants were shared by passing a
USB key around.
ClamAV on the lone mac in the room identified malware on the USB key.  It
is safe to assume that
all the windows boxes were running current mainstream commercial AV sw.
Malware authors test
against "current mainstream commercial AV sw" but apparently ClamAV wasn't
on the list.

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Re: preferred desktop environment for MS Surface Pro 3

[George N. White III]

On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 10:38, Ranjan Maitra  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I would like to install Fedora on my MS Surface Pro 3. I do not have much
> experience with tablets so I was wondering which DE or spin I should put on
> it. I guess I would like the keyboard to change when the Surface changes
> from PC mode to tablet mode and vice-versa if possible. I would also be
> able to write on it and create documents in pdf, etc for notes.
>
> Am I better off using KDE or LXQt or Gnome? If the latter, is it
> worthwhile to install the Design Suite spin. I must say that I am not very
> keen on bloated software but I am open to it. I myself run a non-DE
> (openbox) environment on my computers and have never gone beyond trying a
> DE and giving up on it because it is noticeably a bit more sluggish.
> However, I do recognize that a tablet mode is different and perhaps better
> handled with a DE. So, I am open to all suggestions and also practical tips.
>
> Many thanks in advance and best wishes,
> Ranjan
>

There are virtual keyboard options such as florence that aren't tied to a
DE.  See http://florence.sourceforge.net/english/alternatives.html for
comparisons with other
virtual keyboards.

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Re: anaconda problem with local repo

[Louis Garcia]

I re synced my local mirror and I was missing file ../repodata/repomd.xml.
Everthing works now, Thanks.

On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 8:04 AM George N. White III  wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 00:52, Louis Garcia  wrote:
>
>> Having many boxes to setup I decided to setup a local repo of fedora. I
>> setup vsftpd for this repo. I won't go into every step unless someone asks.
>> Either through pxe or netinst boot I'm able to boot into anacanda and setup
>> everything except the software packages. Everything in the software spoke
>> is empty. Then I point anaconda to another mirror and software spoke is
>> fine.
>>
>> How I populate my copy:
>> #rsync -av rsync://
>> mirror.utexas.edu/fedora/linux/releases/28/Everything/x86_64/os/
>> /srv/repos/fedora/28/x86_64/os
>>
>> I think I'm missing something in my repo.
>>
>
> Yes, see:
>
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Mirroring#How_can_someone_make_a_private_mirror.3F
>
>
>>
>> Thanks.
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Re: convert to EUFI boot?

[Rick Stevens]

On 09/03/2018 07:22 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
> On 09/03/2018 01:30 AM, ja wrote:
>> On Sun, 2018-09-02 at 17:01 -0700, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>>> On 08/31/2018 10:06 AM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
 Hi All,

 Fedora 28, x64

 Two questions:

 1) Is there a way to convert a Fedora hard drive that
  is set up to boot off the old BIOS into a EUFI boot?

 2) Is there a way to convert a Fedora hard drive that
  is set up to boot off the old BIOS into a dual
  BIOS and EUFI boot drive?


 Many thanks,
 -T
>>>
>>> I am wondering now if I set the drive up as EUFI,
>>> if I could modify it to dual boot off of both BIOS
>>> and EUFI

It's UEFI, not EUFI.
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Re: GUI setup for quasi real time process ?

[Rick Stevens]

On 09/03/2018 10:41 AM, linux guy wrote:
> We need a gui for a quasi real time process, which will run on a
> dedicated computer.   We need to be able to view and control the process
> from a number of terminals, some on the local network, some remotely,
> over the Internet.  I hope all the terminals will run Linux, but
> invariably someone will want to run Windows.
> 
> What is the best way to set something like this up ?   Use a web server
> to interface with the process and web browsers to view and control it
> ?   Write a Java app to interface directly with the process ?
> 
> All thoughts, ideas and advice is welcome.

If you use a web interface, you'll need some sort of backend to talk to
the process, so Java or Perl or PHP or something will need to be boinked
in.

Alternately, if the process runs from the command line and will respond
to command line input, you could run it in a screen session and attach
to that session when you need to bugger it. Simple ssh access to the
machine would be all that's needed in that case.

Remote control of process-control software can be a tricky thing--
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Re: convert to EUFI boot?

[ToddAndMargo]

On 09/04/2018 09:40 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:

It's UEFI, not EUFI.



I constantly goof this!

:'(
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Kickstart

[Louis Garcia]

I've been playing around with kickstart to install workstations and need
this to start graphically:

# Start graphical environment on boot
xconfig --startxonboot

Is this correct in the wayland world? Last few releases defaults to wayland
instead of X. Will I get gdm on wayland?

Thanks
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Re: convert to EUFI boot?

[Stephen Morris]

On 3/9/18 9:48 pm, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 12:07 PM ToddAndMargo > wrote:


Hi All,

Fedora 28, x64

Two questions:

1) Is there a way to convert a Fedora hard drive that
    is set up to boot off the old BIOS into a EUFI boot?


I've been hoping to find a solution for this as well as I'm planning 
on upgrading my computer to a Ryzen 5 later this year. I think what 
I'm going to do since I'm upgrading to a M.2 SSD at the same time is:


1. Just do a plain install of Fedora to the new disk and then reboot 
in a live system (Fedora or maybe System Rescue CD since it'll have 
all the utilities I need)

2. Delete the default LVM VG it created
3. Move my "/" and "/var" volume groups over from the old SSD.
4. Tie in my /home drive which is still a 2TB spinning disk.
5. After that I should just have to check / update /etc/fstab.

Thanks,
Richard


Just slightly further to this, I'm multi-booting between Windows 10, 
Fedora and Ubuntu from non-UEFI. If I wanted to convert to UEFI (if I 
can find a valid need to do so) do I need to create a UEFI partition for 
each of the 3 operating systems, or can one partition be used to serve 
all 3?



regards,

Steve



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Firewall Configuration Details

[Stephen Morris]

Hi,

    Is there any step-by-step documentation anywhere on setting up a 
linux firewall from scratch that is designed for someone who has never 
even looked at what is required for this before?


    Is there any recommended gui packages that simplify the setting 
up/ongoing configuration of the firewall?


    Is there a gui interface to the firewall that will monitor 
outgoing/incoming transactions and prompt for whether or not they should 
be allowed or denied?


    The reason for these questions is I replaced my Linksys wireless 
router with a Dlink wireless router over the weekend (with the issues I 
had I also replace my Dlink DWA-192 adapter with a Netgear A7000, but 
like the DWA device the Netgear device is not supported under Linux so I 
going to have to search for drivers for that now too) and under Windows 
10, all applications and games (standalone games, games run from their 
own launcher and games run under steam) were prevented from Accessing 
the internet, but a browser like Chrome was able to still access the 
internet. Under Fedora I had no issues at all and games run through 
steam ran quite happily, albeit without sound.


    After a lot of playing around with changing wireless adapters and 
changing router configuration, to do things like turn off the router's 
firewall, opening ports in the router used by the games I play, setting 
up port forwarding, putting my pc outside of the router's firewall by 
putting it in the DMZ, all to no avail, I eventually found through trial 
and error that the issue was a setting I had active in the third party 
firewall I use in Windows, which was to activate 'ARP Spoofing 
Checking'. The only way I could access the internet was to turn this 
option off.


    With windows have this issue caused by the firewall but linux not 
having the issue presumably means that either the windows firewall is 
more restrictive than Linux, or, I don't have the linux firewall 
configured properly, hence the questions above.


    The firewall I use under windows, and the native windows firewall, 
both have the ability to prompt for allowing or disallowing access 
requests not covered by explicit rules, and provide the ability to 
generate permanent rules depending on the answer, hence the question 
above of whether the same functionality exists under Linux?


    Thanks in advance for any help provided.


regards,

Steve
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Re: preferred desktop environment for MS Surface Pro 3

[Ranjan Maitra]

On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:55 -0300 "George N. White III"  
wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 10:38, Ranjan Maitra  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to install Fedora on my MS Surface Pro 3. I do not have much
> > experience with tablets so I was wondering which DE or spin I should put on
> > it. I guess I would like the keyboard to change when the Surface changes
> > from PC mode to tablet mode and vice-versa if possible. I would also be
> > able to write on it and create documents in pdf, etc for notes.
> >
> > Am I better off using KDE or LXQt or Gnome? If the latter, is it
> > worthwhile to install the Design Suite spin. I must say that I am not very
> > keen on bloated software but I am open to it. I myself run a non-DE
> > (openbox) environment on my computers and have never gone beyond trying a
> > DE and giving up on it because it is noticeably a bit more sluggish.
> > However, I do recognize that a tablet mode is different and perhaps better
> > handled with a DE. So, I am open to all suggestions and also practical tips.
> >
> > Many thanks in advance and best wishes,
> > Ranjan
> >
> 
> There are virtual keyboard options such as florence that aren't tied to a
> DE.  See http://florence.sourceforge.net/english/alternatives.html for
> comparisons with other
> virtual keyboards.

Thanks for this. I installed F28+design suite with Gnome for now and found that 
GOK (also in your reference) works fine. 

Btw, one thing that does not seem to work is to switch the tablet to portait 
mode when it is held long edge on the side. Is it possible to get this to work. 
Let me know if my question is not clear.

Otherwise, at first impressions, things work fine (though I have not tried 
everything yet).

Many thanks again and best wishes,
Ranjan
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Re: convert to EUFI boot?

[Todd Chester]

On 09/03/2018 04:48 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
I'm planning on upgrading my computer to a Ryzen 5 later this year. I 
think what I'm going to do since I'm upgrading to a M.2 SSD at the same 
time is:



Hi Richard,

Disclaimer: I am a Samsung re-seller.

Just some tips on that.

1) Buy a Samsung NVMe SSD drive.  I have gone through hell trying
   to replace everyone one with Samsung at my own expense.
   Especially stay away from Intel.  I took it in the shorts
   over that one.  Cost me a few thousand dollars of free
   parts and labor to remove all of them.  All but the very
   oldest ones that work perfectly.

2) size you drive such that it will have 1/2 of its capacity open.  This
   is because there is a computer on the drive you don't know about
   that is constantly moving data around so that no one spot gets
   over used.  It is called "wear leveling".  And it work well only
   if your drive is 1/2 or more empty.

3) make sure you have proper air circulation across it.  They get hot
   and heat is your enemy.

I have a Samsung 960 NVMe drive in my office computer.  Only holy
molly it is fast!  Fedora 28 takes 7 seconds to boot up after I
enter the password prompt.  The 960 has been replaced with the 970.

-T



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automatically mount all luks partitions at startup, not only /home

[Frédéric]

Hi,
I have multiple partitions encrypted with luks and only the main one
with /home is decrypted at startup. How can I tell the system I want
to open all of them at startup?
Thanks,
F
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