Cannot choose window manager at login, and keyboard problem

[M. Fioretti]

Greetings,

I just installed fedora 25 workstation, 64 bit, and updated all
the packages. There are two things that don't work so far, and
*maybe* they are related, so here they go:

1) I have also installed KDE, OpenBox and other window managers.
   But when I reboot and get the login screen, I see no menu to
   select the window manager

2) I have english as default language, but italian keyboard selected.
   it works... until another uses logs in. After that, when I switch
   user to go back to my own session, I find the desktop using the
   ENGLISH keyboard layout, and the keyboard switching widget in the
   taskbar doesn't work.

How do I fix these things?

TIA,
Marco
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Re: Can a second F25 be installed on the same machine?

[Michael Schwendt]

On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 00:02:42 +0100, Mayavimmer wrote:

> demonstrated. I am here on this technical list to solve problems for my
> customers and you are here to play games. Please cease and desist from
> making personal remarks about me or I will complain to the moderator.

That is another irrational comment and doesn't threaten me. Complain to
the moderator, if it makes you happy. 

It would be more productive to gather some details about the installation
scenario and figure out what steps are necessary to reproduce a problem. What
I've pointed out in the previous mail has not been wrong. I will continue to
raise questions and add comments as long as this thread remains public, but
that doesn't mean I reply to every email. Obviously.
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Repair/upgrade damaged Fedora 23 system

[Michael Eager]

The Fedora 23 installation on my laptop will not boot.  grub.cfg
is missing, for some reason.  I don't have a backup and trying to
rebuild grub.cfg seemed a bit problematic.  (I'm able to awkwardly
boot into a Ubuntu install on the laptop and I have a bit of concern
that running grub-install will end up breaking that.)

I wanted to repair/upgrade the F23 install with F25.  Booting the
Live DVD, there isn't an option to repair/upgrade an existing
install, and when I try to do a new install, the installer will
not let me install over the existing F23 root.  (When I select the
old root partition as /, it will not add it to the new install
partitions.)

The Fedora documentation that I find says that the Live CD/DVD does
not support doing an upgrade, I need to use a bootable DVD.  The
documentation says that an existing install will be automatically
recognized when it is booted.  I'm not able to find a complete
bootable image for Fedora 25 Workstation.  When I found the spins
of Fedora 25, each seems to be a Live image, not bootable.

Q:  Is a complete bootable Fedora 25 Workstation image available?

Q:  Is the Fedora 25 Server image a complete bootable DVD including
KDE?

Q:  Is there a way to tell the Live installer to upgrade/replace
an existing installation?

Q:  Is there another path to upgrading a damaged installation?


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Re: Repair/upgrade damaged Fedora 23 system

[fred roller]

If you want a path of least resistance, IMO, boot to live and mount your
drive.  Recover your critical data if you have an external drive or NAS
available for holding.  Wipe the drive, probably using fdisk and removing
all the partitions would be sufficient.  Then run the installer for a fresh
build.

Option two is to do a grub repair which is doable but outside my expertise.

-- Fred

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Michael Eager  wrote:

> The Fedora 23 installation on my laptop will not boot.  grub.cfg
> is missing, for some reason.  I don't have a backup and trying to
> rebuild grub.cfg seemed a bit problematic.  (I'm able to awkwardly
> boot into a Ubuntu install on the laptop and I have a bit of concern
> that running grub-install will end up breaking that.)
>
> I wanted to repair/upgrade the F23 install with F25.  Booting the
> Live DVD, there isn't an option to repair/upgrade an existing
> install, and when I try to do a new install, the installer will
> not let me install over the existing F23 root.  (When I select the
> old root partition as /, it will not add it to the new install
> partitions.)
>
> The Fedora documentation that I find says that the Live CD/DVD does
> not support doing an upgrade, I need to use a bootable DVD.  The
> documentation says that an existing install will be automatically
> recognized when it is booted.  I'm not able to find a complete
> bootable image for Fedora 25 Workstation.  When I found the spins
> of Fedora 25, each seems to be a Live image, not bootable.
>
> Q:  Is a complete bootable Fedora 25 Workstation image available?
>
> Q:  Is the Fedora 25 Server image a complete bootable DVD including
> KDE?
>
> Q:  Is there a way to tell the Live installer to upgrade/replace
> an existing installation?
>
> Q:  Is there another path to upgrading a damaged installation?
>
>
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Re: How to prevent headless JVM (Fedora 25)?

[Deepak Bhole]

* JUSTIN TAYLOR  [2016-12-26 12:15]:
> I have a 3rd party app that use a Java GUI, so it won't run on a headless 
> JVM.  I had it working until I installed a different app using dnf.  It 
> overwrote my JVM with a headless one and now the Java GUI app is broken.  Is 
> there a way to install/register a non-headless JVM with Fedora so it won't 
> keep installing the headless JVM?


The headless package (java-1.8.0-openjdk-headless) is a standalone
package intended to be used on headless servers where the user may not
want graphics related libraries installed. 

The headless package is just a subpackage of the main OpenJDK build and
all it is is the full JRE minus some graphics related shared libraries
(which are then provided by the 'java-1.8.0-openjdk' package).

If you are using GUI apps, you just need to install 'java-1.8.0-openjdk'
and you will be able to run GUI apps. Apps distributed via Fedora should
have the proper dependencies (on headless vs full package); if you
notice that once does not, please open a bug against that package.

Cheers,
Deepak

> Thanks

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Re: Repair/upgrade damaged Fedora 23 system

[Michael Schwendt]

On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 07:06:10 -0800, Michael Eager wrote:

> and when I try to do a new install, the installer will
> not let me install over the existing F23 root.  (When I select the
> old root partition as /, it will not add it to the new install
> partitions.)

You would need to reformat that partition on the right side of the UI.
Then it will be taken over as root for your new installation.
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Re: Repair/upgrade damaged Fedora 23 system

[Chris Murphy]

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Michael Eager  wrote:
> The Fedora 23 installation on my laptop will not boot.  grub.cfg
> is missing, for some reason.

That's unusual. How do you know it's missing, and where is it normally located?

> I don't have a backup and trying to
> rebuild grub.cfg seemed a bit problematic.  (I'm able to awkwardly
> boot into a Ubuntu install on the laptop and I have a bit of concern
> that running grub-install will end up breaking that.)

Create a USB stick using any Fedora netinstaller, boot and choose the
Troubleshooting menu, and in that submenu is an option to Rescue a
Fedora system. Choose that. There will be an option to locate and
assemble Fedora, do that. And then at the shell:

# chroot



 what's next depends on whether you have UEFI or BIOS firmware:

Reinstalling GRUB itself
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/25/html/System_Administrators_Guide/sec-Reinstalling_GRUB_2.html
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/25/html/System_Administrators_Guide/sec-grub2-reinstall_on_UEFI-Based_Machines.html

Rebuilding grub.cfg is in step 4 here, pick one of the two commands
listed, depending on firmware type.
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/25/html/System_Administrators_Guide/sec-Resetting_and_Reinstalling_GRUB_2.html


You can do this with any Fedora netinstaller. The version doesn't matter.



>
> I wanted to repair/upgrade the F23 install with F25.  Booting the
> Live DVD, there isn't an option to repair/upgrade an existing
> install, and when I try to do a new install, the installer will
> not let me install over the existing F23 root.  (When I select the
> old root partition as /, it will not add it to the new install
> partitions.)

The install requires the partition used for root fs to be reformatted.
Basically they want a completely clean file system before starting an
installation. The partial exception is Btrfs, which doesn't need
reformatting, but will require a new subvolume created for the new
root fs. The installer will do that automatically.





>
> The Fedora documentation that I find says that the Live CD/DVD does
> not support doing an upgrade, I need to use a bootable DVD.

I don't think any media supports upgrades anymore. Which documentation
says this?


> The
> documentation says that an existing install will be automatically
> recognized when it is booted.  I'm not able to find a complete
> bootable image for Fedora 25 Workstation.  When I found the spins
> of Fedora 25, each seems to be a Live image, not bootable.

I don't understand what the distinction is.

>
> Q:  Is a complete bootable Fedora 25 Workstation image available?

There's a net install image, and there's a Live image. That's it.


>
> Q:  Is the Fedora 25 Server image a complete bootable DVD including
> KDE?

No, it's neither KDE nor GNOME. It's a specific Fedora Server product,
and uses Cockpit accessed via web browser, for its GUI.



>
> Q:  Is there a way to tell the Live installer to upgrade/replace
> an existing installation?

Replace, yes. You'll need to specify which partitions to reformat or
delete. Probably a good bet you don't want to delete or reformat /home

>
> Q:  Is there another path to upgrading a damaged installation?

No, you have to fix it before it can be upgraded.


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gsl

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

I tried to put 
gsl_integration_qags
in a loop with the option:
#pragma omp parallel for

but it fails.

Is it because gsl does not have been compiled with the option
-fopenmp
?

Thank.

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OT: smplayer mailing list

[JD]

Does anyone know of a mailing list for smplayer?
Google shows no such beast exists.
If not a mailing list, then perhaps a forum?
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Re: OT: smplayer mailing list

[John Pilkington]

On 03/01/17 19:26, JD wrote:

Does anyone know of a mailing list for smplayer?
Google shows no such beast exists.
If not a mailing list, then perhaps a forum


The FAQ page shows this link:

http://forum.smplayer.info/
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Re: OT: smplayer mailing list

[Ed Greshko]

On 01/04/17 03:26, JD wrote:
> Does anyone know of a mailing list for smplayer?
> Google shows no such beast exists.
> If not a mailing list, then perhaps a forum? 

How much effort did you expend typing the above?  And then waiting for someone 
to visit
http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/,  read the page for you and then reply?

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Re: Repair/upgrade damaged Fedora 23 system

[Michael Eager]

On 01/03/2017 08:34 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 07:06:10 -0800, Michael Eager wrote:


and when I try to do a new install, the installer will
not let me install over the existing F23 root.  (When I select the
old root partition as /, it will not add it to the new install
partitions.)


You would need to reformat that partition on the right side of the UI.
Then it will be taken over as root for your new installation.


I marked / to be reformatted, but it wasn't accepted.  The
installer kept saying that I needed to allocate a new partition.

I just restarted Anaconda and now this is accepted.  I'm not
sure what the difference was.

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Re: OT: smplayer mailing list

[JD]

On 01/03/2017 12:38 PM, John Pilkington wrote:

On 03/01/17 19:26, JD wrote:

Does anyone know of a mailing list for smplayer?
Google shows no such beast exists.
If not a mailing list, then perhaps a forum


The FAQ page shows this link:

http://forum.smplayer.info/

Thanx Ed.
Found it after searching through a haystack of google results :)
But by then, it was too late - I had sent my post :)
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Re: Repair/upgrade damaged Fedora 23 system

[Michael Eager]

On 01/03/2017 09:09 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Michael Eager  wrote:

The Fedora 23 installation on my laptop will not boot.  grub.cfg
is missing, for some reason.


That's unusual. How do you know it's missing, and where is it normally located?


It should be under /boot/grub2.  I found out that it was missing by booting,
receiving a bare "grub>" prompt with nothing else, and spending time
doing web searches, learning way too much about EFI, and scratching my
head 'till my hair hurt.  The grub directory is there, with grubenv and
themes, but no conf file.

No idea how grub.conf could have been deleted.  I copied a couple large
directories from a server to the laptop (obviously not to /boot and not
as root) and then shut down.  Next boot, no grub.conf.




I don't have a backup and trying to
rebuild grub.cfg seemed a bit problematic.  (I'm able to awkwardly
boot into a Ubuntu install on the laptop and I have a bit of concern
that running grub-install will end up breaking that.)


Create a USB stick using any Fedora netinstaller, boot and choose the
Troubleshooting menu, and in that submenu is an option to Rescue a
Fedora system. Choose that. There will be an option to locate and
assemble Fedora, do that. And then at the shell:

# chroot

  what's next depends on whether you have UEFI or BIOS firmware:

Reinstalling GRUB itself
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/25/html/System_Administrators_Guide/sec-Reinstalling_GRUB_2.html
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/25/html/System_Administrators_Guide/sec-grub2-reinstall_on_UEFI-Based_Machines.html

Rebuilding grub.cfg is in step 4 here, pick one of the two commands
listed, depending on firmware type.
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/25/html/System_Administrators_Guide/sec-Resetting_and_Reinstalling_GRUB_2.html


You can do this with any Fedora netinstaller. The version doesn't matter.


Thanks.





I wanted to repair/upgrade the F23 install with F25.  Booting the
Live DVD, there isn't an option to repair/upgrade an existing
install, and when I try to do a new install, the installer will
not let me install over the existing F23 root.  (When I select the
old root partition as /, it will not add it to the new install
partitions.)


The install requires the partition used for root fs to be reformatted.
Basically they want a completely clean file system before starting an
installation. The partial exception is Btrfs, which doesn't need
reformatting, but will require a new subvolume created for the new
root fs. The installer will do that automatically.


OK. I'll try this again.  It didn't work before.



The Fedora documentation that I find says that the Live CD/DVD does
not support doing an upgrade, I need to use a bootable DVD.


I don't think any media supports upgrades anymore. Which documentation
says this?


Not sure any more.  I tried to make sure I wasn't looking at old docs.





The
documentation says that an existing install will be automatically
recognized when it is booted.  I'm not able to find a complete
bootable image for Fedora 25 Workstation.  When I found the spins
of Fedora 25, each seems to be a Live image, not bootable.


I don't understand what the distinction is.



Q:  Is a complete bootable Fedora 25 Workstation image available?


There's a net install image, and there's a Live image. That's it.




Q:  Is the Fedora 25 Server image a complete bootable DVD including
 KDE?


No, it's neither KDE nor GNOME. It's a specific Fedora Server product,
and uses Cockpit accessed via web browser, for its GUI.





Q:  Is there a way to tell the Live installer to upgrade/replace
 an existing installation?


Replace, yes. You'll need to specify which partitions to reformat or
delete. Probably a good bet you don't want to delete or reformat /home



Q:  Is there another path to upgrading a damaged installation?


No, you have to fix it before it can be upgraded.


Thanks.


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Re: OT: smplayer mailing list

[Ed Greshko]

On 01/04/17 03:44, JD wrote:
> Found it after searching through a haystack of google results 

You mean this haystack?

http://bit.ly/2iF9XVa

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NFS Mount Point and Security Changes, Why?

[Stephen Morris]

Hi,

I have a mount point definition in /etc/fstab for a NAS device 
connected to my router via Ethernet that is specifying nfs interfacing. 
When I first put this definition in place on F24 I was using the option 
SEC=KRB5P which was working quite happily (I'm also not sure how long 
ago it was that I put this definition in place). I found yesterday that 
the mount point was no longer being mounted because of an invalid 
option, when I removed all the options and added them back one at a 
time, I found that the option that was being objected to was SEC=KRB5P. 
I also found that SEC=KRB5 and SEC=KRB5I were also being rejected as 
invalid even though looking at the MAN page for NFS says all three are 
valid parameters. The only security option I could get to work was 
SEC=SYS. The MAN page does hint at other configurations being required 
to use Kerberos security, but if so, why is this required now?


How do I find out why the SEC specification I was using now no 
longer works (I can't identify exactly when it stopped working) and why 
the MAN pages are indicating that it is still valid?



regards,

Steve

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Should the "xset m" commands do anything in F25?

[Iiro Laiho]

Hi,

I have filed the bug #1408997 about "xset m" commands having no effect on mouse 
speed. The lack of effect of the command also seems to mean that the GUI 
sliders in LXDE have no effect at all, and to cause inconsistent behaviour in 
XFCE4's settings.

The problem can be reproduced on at least two machines: in a VirtualBox VM 
(yes, the tablet emulation was disabled) and a real one.

I fail to find any info about the current situation of the command and it's 
possible replacement. Is the "xset m" command obsolete, or is there just a some 
kind of bug?

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Re: OT: Flash on (Linux-Based) Samsung SmartTV

[Stephen Morris]

On 21/12/16 08:01, Tim Evans wrote:
I'm trying to long-distance-coach a tech-challenged friend on using 
his Samsung SmartTV's web browser to view content his Cable TV service 
doesn't carry. (This is not trying to get around stuff without 
paying--the content, out of area sports, FWIW, is freely available to 
watch on his PC.)


When he tries to access the content with the Samsung-embedded browser, 
he gets an immediate prompt to upgrade Flash.  Following the offered 
links allows access to what is labeled as "Linux" rpm and/or tgz 
versions, neither of which will install on the TV. So, the content 
won't load.


While I've suggest he do a general upgrade of the TV firmware, in 
hopes there's a usable Flash upgrade included, I'm thinking of 
pointing him in a different direction--say, a ChromeCast.


Any other suggestions? Thanks.
My Samsung Smart TV has a Screen Mirroring Option in its devices list 
provided when pressing 'Source' on the remote. When this option is 
invoked it provides instructions to go to the Samsung Web Site to 
download an App for your PC to enable the PC's output to be mirrored on 
the TV (assuming the TV and PC are both network connected, but not 
necessarily directly connected to each other). If your friend's Smart TV 
has that option that may be a viable workaround to the flash upgrade 
option. My experience with flash on Linux is similar to what you are 
experiencing on the TV, and in most situations, installing the rpm 
pointed to makes no difference to the issue. I believe that the problem 
is not that the version of flash available for Linux doesn't work, its 
that the web sites in question are looking for a minimum flash version 
relative to whats available in a Windows environment, and because the 
Linux flash versions have a lower version number, the site refuses to 
play the content, whereas if they ignored the version number and just 
served up the content it would probably play quite happily in what is 
available for Linux.


regards,
Steve

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Re: Repair/upgrade damaged Fedora 23 system

[Chris Murphy]

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017, 12:51 PM Michael Eager  wrote:

> On 01/03/2017 09:09 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Michael Eager 
> wrote:
> >> The Fedora 23 installation on my laptop will not boot.  grub.cfg
> >> is missing, for some reason.
> >
> > That's unusual. How do you know it's missing, and where is it normally
> located?
>
> It should be under /boot/grub2.  I found out that it was missing by
> booting,
> receiving a bare "grub>" prompt with nothing else, and spending time
> doing web searches, learning way too much about EFI,


Fedora's GRUB puts the grub.cfg on the EFI System partition. It's
non-standard. Path is /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/




and scratching my
> head 'till my hair hurt.  The grub directory is there, with grubenv and
> themes, but no conf file.
>

Normal on Fedora.



> No idea how grub.conf could have been deleted.  I copied a couple large
> directories from a server to the laptop (obviously not to /boot and not
> as root) and then shut down.  Next boot, no grub.conf.
>

Please don't use grub2-install which is obsolete on UEFI computers.

Docs I cited are consistent with this, including how to properly reinstall
GRUB on UEFi.


Chris Murphy
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Re: Should the "xset m" commands do anything in F25?

[Ed Greshko]

On 01/04/17 04:43, Iiro Laiho wrote:
> I have filed the bug #1408997 about "xset m" commands having no effect on 
> mouse speed. The lack of effect of the command also seems to mean that the 
> GUI sliders in LXDE have no effect at all, and to cause inconsistent 
> behaviour in XFCE4's settings.
>
> The problem can be reproduced on at least two machines: in a VirtualBox VM 
> (yes, the tablet emulation was disabled) and a real one.
>
> I fail to find any info about the current situation of the command and it's 
> possible replacement. Is the "xset m" command obsolete, or is there just a 
> some kind of bug?

This is probably due to the change over to libinput from evdev for controlling 
devices.

Try investigating the "xinput" command.  I've not done much in that area.  Not 
a straight
forward exercise IMHO.

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Re: Cannot choose window manager at login, and keyboard problem

[Samuel Sieb]

On 01/03/2017 12:53 AM, M. Fioretti wrote:
> 1) I have also installed KDE, OpenBox and other window managers.
>But when I reboot and get the login screen, I see no menu to
>select the window manager
>
This depends on the login manager you're using.  If it's gdm, then after 
you click on your name, there should be a little gear icon that will let 
you pick the session type you want to use.  Whether or not the window 
manager you want is in that list depends on how it was packaged.

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Re: How to prevent headless JVM (Fedora 25)?

[JUSTIN TAYLOR]

When I installed Fedora Workstation, it loaded the headless JVM only.  I 
installed the full JVM, but installing libreoffice via dnf reverted back to the 
headless one.  It's almost like it considers the headless one to be the default.

On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 10:07 AM, Deepak Bhole  
wrote:
 

 * JUSTIN TAYLOR  [2016-12-26 12:15]:
> I have a 3rd party app that use a Java GUI, so it won't run on a headless 
> JVM.  I had it working until I installed a different app using dnf.  It 
> overwrote my JVM with a headless one and now the Java GUI app is broken.  Is 
> there a way to install/register a non-headless JVM with Fedora so it won't 
> keep installing the headless JVM?


The headless package (java-1.8.0-openjdk-headless) is a standalone
package intended to be used on headless servers where the user may not
want graphics related libraries installed. 

The headless package is just a subpackage of the main OpenJDK build and
all it is is the full JRE minus some graphics related shared libraries
(which are then provided by the 'java-1.8.0-openjdk' package).

If you are using GUI apps, you just need to install 'java-1.8.0-openjdk'
and you will be able to run GUI apps. Apps distributed via Fedora should
have the proper dependencies (on headless vs full package); if you
notice that once does not, please open a bug against that package.

Cheers,
Deepak

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Re: How to prevent headless JVM (Fedora 25)?

[Christopher]

Isn't the headless a dependency of the full one? As far as I know, headless
isn't a separate JVM install... it's just a partial install of the full
JVM, and installing the full one is basically just installing whatever was
missing from the headless one. Isn't this correct?

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017, 19:48 JUSTIN TAYLOR  wrote:

> When I installed Fedora Workstation, it loaded the headless JVM only.  I
> installed the full JVM, but installing libreoffice via dnf reverted back to
> the headless one.  It's almost like it considers the headless one to be the
> default.
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 10:07 AM, Deepak Bhole 
> wrote:
>
>
> * JUSTIN TAYLOR  [2016-12-26 12:15]:
> > I have a 3rd party app that use a Java GUI, so it won't run on a
> headless JVM.  I had it working until I installed a different app using
> dnf.  It overwrote my JVM with a headless one and now the Java GUI app is
> broken.  Is there a way to install/register a non-headless JVM with Fedora
> so it won't keep installing the headless JVM?
>
>
> The headless package (java-1.8.0-openjdk-headless) is a standalone
> package intended to be used on headless servers where the user may not
> want graphics related libraries installed.
>
> The headless package is just a subpackage of the main OpenJDK build and
> all it is is the full JRE minus some graphics related shared libraries
> (which are then provided by the 'java-1.8.0-openjdk' package).
>
> If you are using GUI apps, you just need to install 'java-1.8.0-openjdk'
> and you will be able to run GUI apps. Apps distributed via Fedora should
> have the proper dependencies (on headless vs full package); if you
> notice that once does not, please open a bug against that package.
>
> Cheers,
> Deepak
>
>
> > Thanks
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Re: How to prevent headless JVM (Fedora 25)?

[Samuel Sieb]

On 01/03/2017 04:47 PM, JUSTIN TAYLOR wrote:

When I installed Fedora Workstation, it loaded the headless JVM only.  I
installed the full JVM, but installing libreoffice via dnf reverted back
to the headless one.  It's almost like it considers the headless one to
be the default.

That is very strange.  It would be useful to see the output of dnf when 
you tried that.  The headless package isn't a replacement for the full 
one, it's the Java base.  The full JVM package is just the parts that 
have dependencies on graphical libraries and it has a dependency on the 
headless package.

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Re: How to prevent headless JVM (Fedora 25)?

[Rick Stevens]

On 01/03/2017 05:59 PM, Christopher wrote:
> Isn't the headless a dependency of the full one?

Yes, java-1.8.0-openjdk-headless is a requirement for java-1.8.0-openjdk.

> As far as I know,
> headless isn't a separate JVM install... it's just a partial install of
> the full JVM, and installing the full one is basically just installing
> whatever was missing from the headless one. Isn't this correct?

From what I can see, java-1.8.0-openjdk only includes four shared
libraries, four icon (.png) files, a desktop file and the policy tool.
The rest of the payload comes from the headless RPM. There's quite a bit
of "alternatives" scriptlet magic that happens as well on the
headless RPM.

> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017, 19:48 JUSTIN TAYLOR  > wrote:
> 
> When I installed Fedora Workstation, it loaded the headless JVM
> only.  I installed the full JVM, but installing libreoffice via dnf
> reverted back to the headless one.  It's almost like it considers
> the headless one to be the default.
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 10:07 AM, Deepak Bhole
> mailto:dbh...@redhat.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> * JUSTIN TAYLOR mailto:jus...@swbell.net>>
> [2016-12-26 12:15]:
> > I have a 3rd party app that use a Java GUI, so it won't run on a
> headless JVM.  I had it working until I installed a different app
> using dnf.  It overwrote my JVM with a headless one and now the Java
> GUI app is broken.  Is there a way to install/register a
> non-headless JVM with Fedora so it won't keep installing the
> headless JVM?
> 
> 
> The headless package (java-1.8.0-openjdk-headless) is a standalone
> package intended to be used on headless servers where the user may not
> want graphics related libraries installed.
> 
> The headless package is just a subpackage of the main OpenJDK build and
> all it is is the full JRE minus some graphics related shared libraries
> (which are then provided by the 'java-1.8.0-openjdk' package).
> 
> If you are using GUI apps, you just need to install 'java-1.8.0-openjdk'
> and you will be able to run GUI apps. Apps distributed via Fedora should
> have the proper dependencies (on headless vs full package); if you
> notice that once does not, please open a bug against that package.
> 
> Cheers,
> Deepak
> 
> 
> > Thanks
> 
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Re: How to prevent headless JVM (Fedora 25)?

[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 12:47:55AM +, JUSTIN TAYLOR wrote:
> When I installed Fedora Workstation, it loaded the headless JVM only.
>  I installed the full JVM, but installing libreoffice via dnf
> reverted back to the headless one.  It's almost like it considers the
> headless one to be the default.


Did you see my earlier reference to
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1302448?

You should be able to use the `alternatives` command to switch
/usr/bin/java to your other JVM.



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Need help with LVM recovery

[shadhin71]

All,
  I need help with following situation 

OS: fedora 22
Dell

My root logical volume was full.  As a result, I attempted to resize my home 
partition.

My physical volume :/dev/sda8


My VG:fedora

Logical volumes are:


/dev/mapper/fedora-root

/dev/mapper/fedora-root

Once, I resized volumes, I ran resizee2fs.  However, system will not boot 
properly due to bad geometry.

To correct the situation, I ran mk2efs.   This fix the geometry but, my 
/home/ is gone.


Now, I know data is there and I need to recover it.   

I found a recovery point from 2014 in /etc/ LVM/archive.  However, my problem 
is when I try to recover with

Pvcreate --uuid  --restorefile file /dev/sda8 


I get partition is already mounted error 


Can someone help here please

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