Reverting to nouveau
Due to ongoing problems with non-functioning hibernation (or rather resuming) I decided to reduce the number of variables by removing the proprietary Nvidia drivers. I did the following: - Removed all Nvidia-related rpms (i.e. everything with Nvidia in the name, i.e.: kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.5-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-libs-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.3-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-kmodsrc-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-libs-340.96-2.fc24.i686 akmod-nvidia-340xx-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.4-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.2-201.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-kmodsrc-367.44-1.fc24.x86_64 - Deleted /etc/X11/*nvidia* - Deleted the Nvidia blacklist file from /etc/modprobe.d - Rebooted I now have a VGA system (640x480). The Nouveau module is not loading at boot. xrandr says "Failed to get size of gamma for output default". So, two questions: a) What am I forgetting? b) Why is switching video drivers so fscking difficult? poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverting to nouveau
Le 05/10/2016 12:02, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit : > Due to ongoing problems with non-functioning hibernation (or rather > resuming) I decided to reduce the number of variables by removing the > proprietary Nvidia drivers. I did the following: > > - Removed all Nvidia-related rpms (i.e. everything with Nvidia in the > name, i.e.: > > kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.5-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-libs-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 > kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.3-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-kmodsrc-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-libs-340.96-2.fc24.i686 > akmod-nvidia-340xx-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 > kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.4-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 > kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.2-201.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-kmodsrc-367.44-1.fc24.x86_64 > > - Deleted /etc/X11/*nvidia* > - Deleted the Nvidia blacklist file from /etc/modprobe.d Delete: /usr/lib/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverting to nouveau
Le 05/10/2016 12:17, François Patte a écrit : > Le 05/10/2016 12:02, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit : >> Due to ongoing problems with non-functioning hibernation (or rather >> resuming) I decided to reduce the number of variables by removing the >> proprietary Nvidia drivers. I did the following: >> >> - Removed all Nvidia-related rpms (i.e. everything with Nvidia in the >> name, i.e.: >> >> kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.5-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 >> xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-libs-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 >> xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 >> kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.3-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 >> xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-kmodsrc-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 >> xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-libs-340.96-2.fc24.i686 >> akmod-nvidia-340xx-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 >> kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.4-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 >> kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.2-201.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 >> xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-kmodsrc-367.44-1.fc24.x86_64 >> >> - Deleted /etc/X11/*nvidia* >> - Deleted the Nvidia blacklist file from /etc/modprobe.d > > Delete: > > /usr/lib/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf and delete rd.blacklist=nouveau from kernel command line in grub -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverting to nouveau
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 12:17 +0200, François Patte wrote: > > - Deleted the Nvidia blacklist file from /etc/modprobe.d > > Delete: > > /usr/lib/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf As I said above, I already did that. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverting to nouveau
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 12:22 +0200, François Patte wrote: > Le 05/10/2016 12:17, François Patte a écrit : > > > > Le 05/10/2016 12:02, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit : > > > > > > Due to ongoing problems with non-functioning hibernation (or rather > > > resuming) I decided to reduce the number of variables by removing the > > > proprietary Nvidia drivers. I did the following: > > > > > > - Removed all Nvidia-related rpms (i.e. everything with Nvidia in the > > > name, i.e.: > > > > > > kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.5-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 > > > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-libs-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 > > > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 > > > kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.3-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 > > > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-kmodsrc-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 > > > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-libs-340.96-2.fc24.i686 > > > akmod-nvidia-340xx-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 > > > kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.4-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 > > > kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.2-201.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 > > > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-kmodsrc-367.44-1.fc24.x86_64 > > > > > > - Deleted /etc/X11/*nvidia* > > > - Deleted the Nvidia blacklist file from /etc/modprobe.d > > > > Delete: > > > > /usr/lib/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf > > and delete rd.blacklist=nouveau from kernel command line in grub There is no such entry. There are no blacklisted modules in grub. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverting to nouveau
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 12:22 +0200, François Patte wrote: > Le 05/10/2016 12:17, François Patte a écrit : > > > > Le 05/10/2016 12:02, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit : > > > > > > Due to ongoing problems with non-functioning hibernation (or rather > > > resuming) I decided to reduce the number of variables by removing the > > > proprietary Nvidia drivers. I did the following: > > > > > > - Removed all Nvidia-related rpms (i.e. everything with Nvidia in the > > > name, i.e.: > > > > > > kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.5-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 > > > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-libs-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 > > > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 > > > kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.3-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 > > > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-kmodsrc-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 > > > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-libs-340.96-2.fc24.i686 > > > akmod-nvidia-340xx-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 > > > kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.4-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 > > > kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.2-201.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 > > > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-kmodsrc-367.44-1.fc24.x86_64 > > > > > > - Deleted /etc/X11/*nvidia* > > > - Deleted the Nvidia blacklist file from /etc/modprobe.d > > > > Delete: > > > > /usr/lib/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf > > and delete rd.blacklist=nouveau from kernel command line in grub BTW, loading the nouveau module with modprobe works, once the system is booted, i.e. it's not a problem with the module itself. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverting to nouveau
On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 11:30:42 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > BTW, loading the nouveau module with modprobe works, once the system is > booted, i.e. it's not a problem with the module itself. Maybe it is missing in the initrd? Perhaps try "dracut --force" after manually loading it? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverting to nouveau
Le 05/10/2016 12:23, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit : > On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 12:17 +0200, François Patte wrote: >>> - Deleted the Nvidia blacklist file from /etc/modprobe.d >> >> Delete: >> >> /usr/lib/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf > > As I said above, I already did that. No! You deleted /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.blacklist (That's what you said...) I suggest! */usr/lib/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf* -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverting to nouveau
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 12:42 +0200, François Patte wrote: > Le 05/10/2016 12:23, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit : > > > > On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 12:17 +0200, François Patte wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > - Deleted the Nvidia blacklist file from /etc/modprobe.d > > > > > > Delete: > > > > > > /usr/lib/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf > > > > As I said above, I already did that. > > No! You deleted /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.blacklist > > (That's what you said...) > > I suggest! */usr/lib/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf* Actually it's nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf but yes, that worked. Many thanks. It would be so much easier if the dnf script for uninstalling the Nvidia driver just did this, since it's the installer that puts it there in the first place. Obviously that's not a Fedora problem of course. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverting to nouveau
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 06:39 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 11:30:42 +0100 > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > BTW, loading the nouveau module with modprobe works, once the system is > > booted, i.e. it's not a problem with the module itself. > > Maybe it is missing in the initrd? Perhaps try "dracut --force" after > manually loading it? Thanks, but François' suggestion worked. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverting to nouveau
FWIW, I have reverted from the NVIDIA driver to nouveau quite often by simply doing $ sudo dnf remove xorg-x11-drv-nvidia which also removed most of the dependencies you have mentioned. After that I could reboot into nouveau without any other alterations - just to notice that nouveau is not my friend. So reverted to NVIDIA again in a similar way: $ sudo dnf install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia (which, on reboot, was followed by some lenghty stop/start jobs from akmod but worked in the end) Am 05.10.2016 um 12:02 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan: Due to ongoing problems with non-functioning hibernation (or rather resuming) I decided to reduce the number of variables by removing the proprietary Nvidia drivers. I did the following: - Removed all Nvidia-related rpms (i.e. everything with Nvidia in the name, i.e.: kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.5-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-libs-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.3-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-kmodsrc-340.96-2.fc24.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-340xx-libs-340.96-2.fc24.i686 akmod-nvidia-340xx-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.4-200.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-340xx-4.7.2-201.fc24.x86_64-340.96-3.fc24.x86_64 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-kmodsrc-367.44-1.fc24.x86_64 - Deleted /etc/X11/*nvidia* - Deleted the Nvidia blacklist file from /etc/modprobe.d - Rebooted I now have a VGA system (640x480). The Nouveau module is not loading at boot. xrandr says "Failed to get size of gamma for output default". So, two questions: a) What am I forgetting? b) Why is switching video drivers so fscking difficult? poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverting to nouveau
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 17:50 +0200, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: > FWIW, I have reverted from the NVIDIA driver to nouveau quite often by > simply doing > $ sudo dnf remove xorg-x11-drv-nvidia > which also removed most of the dependencies you have mentioned. After > that I could reboot into nouveau without any other alterations - just to > notice that nouveau is not my friend. So reverted to NVIDIA again in a > similar way: > $ sudo dnf install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia > (which, on reboot, was followed by some lenghty stop/start jobs from > akmod but worked in the end) That's what I would expect to work. Just perplexed that it didn't and I had to go round manually cleaning stuff up. I'll probably have to go back to the Nvidia drivers anyway as the Nouveau one is noticeably worse in Steam, even at low settings. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverting to nouveau
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 17:50 +0200, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: > > FWIW, I have reverted from the NVIDIA driver to nouveau quite often by > > simply doing > > $ sudo dnf remove xorg-x11-drv-nvidia > > which also removed most of the dependencies you have mentioned. After > > that I could reboot into nouveau without any other alterations - just to > > notice that nouveau is not my friend. So reverted to NVIDIA again in a > > similar way: > > $ sudo dnf install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia > > (which, on reboot, was followed by some lenghty stop/start jobs from > > akmod but worked in the end) > > That's what I would expect to work. Just perplexed that it didn't and I > had to go round manually cleaning stuff up. > > I'll probably have to go back to the Nvidia drivers anyway as the > Nouveau one is noticeably worse in Steam, even at low settings. > > poc > Unless NVidia releases their driver to open source, I do not think we will get any reprieve from this problem. I am wondering why they (and others like broadcom) keep their drivers proprietary. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverting to nouveau
Le 05/10/2016 18:40, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit : > On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 17:50 +0200, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: >> FWIW, I have reverted from the NVIDIA driver to nouveau quite often by >> simply doing >> $ sudo dnf remove xorg-x11-drv-nvidia >> which also removed most of the dependencies you have mentioned. After >> that I could reboot into nouveau without any other alterations - just to >> notice that nouveau is not my friend. So reverted to NVIDIA again in a >> similar way: >> $ sudo dnf install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia >> (which, on reboot, was followed by some lenghty stop/start jobs from >> akmod but worked in the end) > > That's what I would expect to work. Just perplexed that it didn't and I > had to go round manually cleaning stuff up. > > I'll probably have to go back to the Nvidia drivers anyway as the > Nouveau one is noticeably worse in Steam, even at low settings. I don't know what Steam is I had to revert to nouveau recently because the nvidia driver (340-96) is unable to give a correct configuration if I plug a beamer on the VGA plug of my laptop. It cannot handle different resolutions for the laptop screen (1440x900) while the beamer has a 1024x768 resolution. This was not the case before: I just finished to update this laptop from f14 to f24. Under f14, I installed the nvidia driver and it perfectly worked. With the nouveau driver, plugging a beamer works (almost) immediately using the xfce4 display manager (except if I want mirror screens! I have to configure the display by hand, using xrandr). -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverting to nouveau
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 19:39 +0200, François Patte wrote: > > I'll probably have to go back to the Nvidia drivers anyway as the > > Nouveau one is noticeably worse in Steam, even at low settings. > > I don't know what Steam is It's a commercial gaming platform which is supported on Linux. I'm not a big gamer but occasionally I indulge. Unfortunately this means using the Nvidia drivers, at least for the titles I've tried. > I had to revert to nouveau recently > because the nvidia driver (340-96) is unable to give a correct > configuration if I plug a beamer on the VGA plug of my laptop. My reason for switching to Nouveau originated in randomly not being able to resume from hibernation when using the Nvidia drivers (discussed on another thread). So it seems I can have either Steam or hibernation, but not both. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: adding a package to Fedora's EPEL
On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 06:08:00PM -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: > It has been a couple of days since the epel7 branch was created for > my package (pdf-stapler). I am a little confused: how does the build > get created now? What do I have to do? In the dist-git checkout, do: fedpkg switch-branch epel7 if that's empty, do git merge master (uh, I think, offhand... I haven't tested that). and then fedpkg push fedpkg build -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Taskbar Panel in Plasma Won't Autohide
On 07/07/16 08:24, Stephen Morris wrote: On 23/05/16 07:25, Ed Greshko wrote: On 05/23/16 04:10, Stephen Morris wrote: Thanks Ed. Do you know what the kde list url is, I might try that to see if they have any indications on when it is likely to be fixed. That would be http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/k...@lists.fedoraproject.org And I think Colin nailed it with https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362105 Thanks for the responses guys, having upgraded to F24 I can confirm this issue has been resolved in F24. Having had the issue fixed by an upgrade to F24, after putting on all the regular updates up to the current point in time I have found that the issue has resurfaced and autohide no longer works, nor is autohide selectable from the panel options again. What I don't know is which specific updates have reintroduced the issue as I have only just noticed it. How do I identify whether this is an upstream issue or whether Fedora changes have caused the issue (I think changes to KDE Themes can cause this as well). regards, Steve regards, Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Taskbar Panel in Plasma Won't Autohide
On 10/05/2016 02:37 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: > > > On 07/07/16 08:24, Stephen Morris wrote: >> On 23/05/16 07:25, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 05/23/16 04:10, Stephen Morris wrote: >>> Thanks Ed. Do you know what the kde list url is, I might try that to see if they have any indications on when it is likely to be fixed. >>> That would be >>> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/k...@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> >>> And I think Colin nailed it with >>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362105 >>> >> Thanks for the responses guys, having upgraded to F24 I can confirm >> this issue has been resolved in F24. > Having had the issue fixed by an upgrade to F24, after putting on all > the regular updates up to the current point in time I have found that > the issue has resurfaced and autohide no longer works, nor is autohide > selectable from the panel options again. What I don't know is which > specific updates have reintroduced the issue as I have only just noticed > it. > How do I identify whether this is an upstream issue or whether Fedora > changes have caused the issue (I think changes to KDE Themes can cause > this as well). From what I can see, this is (has) been an issue in kde-workspace in versions prior to 5.6.5. Verify the versions you have installed via dnf list installed kde-workspace* If it's later than 5.6.5, then you should probably bugzilla it to Fedora. Make sure you put all the pertinent data (KDE component versions, themes versions, etc.) in your report. The Fedora gang will see if it's something Fedora-specific. If not and it's from upstream, I think they'd push it up the food chain to KDE. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigitalri...@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -Brain: The organ with which we think that we think.- -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverting to nouveau
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 19:39 +0200, François Patte wrote: > > > I'll probably have to go back to the Nvidia drivers anyway as the > > > Nouveau one is noticeably worse in Steam, even at low settings. > > > > I don't know what Steam is > > It's a commercial gaming platform which is supported on Linux. I'm not > a big gamer but occasionally I indulge. Unfortunately this means using > the Nvidia drivers, at least for the titles I've tried. > > > I had to revert to nouveau recently > > because the nvidia driver (340-96) is unable to give a correct > > configuration if I plug a beamer on the VGA plug of my laptop. > > My reason for switching to Nouveau originated in randomly not being > able to resume from hibernation when using the Nvidia drivers > (discussed on another thread). So it seems I can have either Steam or > hibernation, but not both. > This sort of trade-off is all too common, occurs across distros, and usually requires experimentation by each user to figure out what works for a particular use case. These days distros have converged to the point that many bugs affect multiple distros, In a small fraction of cases, the details show up in a mail list or forum. In a small fraction of those cases, someone who really understands the issue explains how to get to the root cause of the malfunctions. Fedora users in particular should expect to run into problems and should be prepared to invest some time digging into the problem and documenting the findings. Do you recognize your steam problem at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Steam#Steam_runtime_issues? -- George N. White III Head of St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Reverting to nouveau
On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 19:39 -0300, George N. White III wrote: > On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 19:39 +0200, François Patte wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'll probably have to go back to the Nvidia drivers anyway as the > > > > Nouveau one is noticeably worse in Steam, even at low settings. > > > > > > I don't know what Steam is > > > > It's a commercial gaming platform which is supported on Linux. I'm not > > a big gamer but occasionally I indulge. Unfortunately this means using > > the Nvidia drivers, at least for the titles I've tried. > > > > > > > > I had to revert to nouveau recently > > > because the nvidia driver (340-96) is unable to give a correct > > > configuration if I plug a beamer on the VGA plug of my laptop. > > > > My reason for switching to Nouveau originated in randomly not being > > able to resume from hibernation when using the Nvidia drivers > > (discussed on another thread). So it seems I can have either Steam or > > hibernation, but not both. > > > > This sort of trade-off is all too common, occurs across distros, and usually > requires experimentation by each user to figure out what works for a > particular use case. These days distros have converged to the point > that many bugs affect multiple distros, > > In a small fraction of cases, the details show up in a mail list or forum. > In a small fraction of those cases, someone who really understands > the issue explains how to get to the root cause of the malfunctions. > Fedora users in particular should expect to run into problems and > should be prepared to invest some time digging into the problem > and documenting the findings. > > > Do you recognize your steam problem at > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Steam#Steam_runtime_issues? I don't have a problem with Steam. As long as I use the Nvidia drivers it works perfectly well. My problem is with hibernation. See the thread starting at: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/K3AI2V6AAW3SXYD4WI7AKUVP7HGYQRN5/#NLCYKEWHYTODJPM7QHHUCH22LCEQOWCQ poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
