Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 12:01 +1030, Tim wrote:
> Allegedly, on or about 25 October 2015, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
> > The mouse has adequate battery and power cycling makes no
> difference. 
> 
> Could try the old remote control repair trick - grind the battery
> around
> on the battery terminal, scrape off any oxidisation.  If it's not the
> type that can be rotated, then a minor polish of the metal on the
> battery and terminals using something else may help.

As I said, the mouse works on another system. I should also mention
that the mouse light is on, i.e. it does have power.

I'm leaning towards thinking the problem isn't with the mouse but with
the dongle (if in fact it's a hardware issue at all).

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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 10:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > I've reported it to Bugzilla: 
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1275122
> >
> > BTW, this is the dongle: 
> http://plugable.com/products/usb-bt4le#drivers
> >
> > poc
> >
> 
> May become marked as a duplicate of
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1173852

Probably. I did a search for BT problems before reporting it but must
have missed that one.

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Re: history undo weirdness

2015-10-26 Thread Honza Šilhan
> From: "Michael Schwendt" 
>
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 23:44:53 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
> 
> > when I try to revert to a previous history I get an error...what does it
> > mean??
> > 
> > # dnf history undo 125
> 
> > @updates
> > Nessun pacchetto sssd-ipa-0:1.13.0-4.fc22.x86_64 disponibile.
> > Errore: An operation cannot be undone
> 
> You can only downgrade to packages, which are still available in
> the repos. Unfortunately, when an update is released, it replaces
> the previous update in the repo.

True. If you have "unlimited" disk on your machine, you can set `keepcache=1`
in `/etc/dnf/dnf.conf` file. That would preserve all packages that were 
downloaded
in the cache so they would always be available for history commands.
In yum this option was set by default, in DNF after many complains
it was turned off [1].

Honza

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1046244
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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 23:23 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:50:40PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 14:05 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> > > > > Had a similar problem. I changed the batteries with brand new
> > > > > one
> > > > > (Super Alkaline) and it worked.
> > > > New battery made no difference.
> > > > 
> > > > poc
> > > Have trie re-authenticatinig the password? Usually 4 zeroes?
> > 
> > The mouse is already paired. Furthermore, IIRC it has never asked
> > me
> > for a key.
> 
> In the past when I had problems connecting to a device that "used to
> work" I would deleted it from BT's list of known devices.
> 
> However, recently I discovered that "deleting" and "unpairing" are
> distinct operations.  I could not move a kbd to a different system
> by deleting it from the first, I had to unpair the kbd before it 
> would pair with the new system.

How do you unpair it? There is no such option in the settings dialogue
in KDE, nor in Gnome. There is an option for removing it, which I've
already tried.

poc

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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Ed Greshko


On 10/26/2015 07:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 10:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> I've reported it to Bugzilla: 
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1275122
>>>
>>> BTW, this is the dongle: 
>> http://plugable.com/products/usb-bt4le#drivers
>>> poc
>>>
>> May become marked as a duplicate of
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1173852
> Probably. I did a search for BT problems before reporting it but must
> have missed that one.
>

One other thing I stumbled upon suggested a race condition of some sort.

You may want to try

1.  Unplug dongle
2.  rmmod bluetooth
3.  plugin dongle



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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Joseph Loo
On 10/26/2015 04:26 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 23:23 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:50:40PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 14:05 -0600, jd1008 wrote:

 On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
>> Had a similar problem. I changed the batteries with brand new
>> one
>> (Super Alkaline) and it worked.
> New battery made no difference.
>
> poc
 Have trie re-authenticatinig the password? Usually 4 zeroes?
>>>
>>> The mouse is already paired. Furthermore, IIRC it has never asked
>>> me
>>> for a key.
>>
>> In the past when I had problems connecting to a device that "used to
>> work" I would deleted it from BT's list of known devices.
>>
>> However, recently I discovered that "deleting" and "unpairing" are
>> distinct operations.  I could not move a kbd to a different system
>> by deleting it from the first, I had to unpair the kbd before it 
>> would pair with the new system.
> 
> How do you unpair it? There is no such option in the settings dialogue
> in KDE, nor in Gnome. There is an option for removing it, which I've
> already tried.
> 
> poc
> 
Most blue tooth mouse has a button to enable connection to a blue tooth
device. Generally, you need to push the button , typically underneath
the mouse and force the mouse to start the pairing action.

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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 05:12 -0700, Joseph Loo wrote:
> On 10/26/2015 04:26 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 23:23 -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:50:40PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 14:05 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> > > > > > > Had a similar problem. I changed the batteries with brand
> > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > (Super Alkaline) and it worked.
> > > > > > New battery made no difference.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > poc
> > > > > Have trie re-authenticatinig the password? Usually 4 zeroes?
> > > > 
> > > > The mouse is already paired. Furthermore, IIRC it has never
> > > > asked
> > > > me
> > > > for a key.
> > > 
> > > In the past when I had problems connecting to a device that "used
> > > to
> > > work" I would deleted it from BT's list of known devices.
> > > 
> > > However, recently I discovered that "deleting" and "unpairing"
> > > are
> > > distinct operations.  I could not move a kbd to a different
> > > system
> > > by deleting it from the first, I had to unpair the kbd before it 
> > > would pair with the new system.
> > 
> > How do you unpair it? There is no such option in the settings
> > dialogue
> > in KDE, nor in Gnome. There is an option for removing it, which
> > I've
> > already tried.
> > 
> > poc
> > 
> Most blue tooth mouse has a button to enable connection to a blue
> tooth
> device. Generally, you need to push the button , typically underneath
> the mouse and force the mouse to start the pairing action.

I've done that more times than I can count. Makes no difference.
Likewise turning the mouse off and on again, replacing the battery etc.

BTW the dongle *does* pair with my BT headphones. Go figure.

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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 20:12 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> 
> On 10/26/2015 07:15 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 10:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > > I've reported it to Bugzilla: 
> > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1275122
> > > > 
> > > > BTW, this is the dongle: 
> > > http://plugable.com/products/usb-bt4le#drivers
> > > > poc
> > > > 
> > > May become marked as a duplicate of
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1173852
> > Probably. I did a search for BT problems before reporting it but
> > must
> > have missed that one.
> > 
> 
> One other thing I stumbled upon suggested a race condition of some
> sort.
> 
> You may want to try
> 
> 1.  Unplug dongle
> 2.  rmmod bluetooth
> 3.  plugin dongle
> 

$ sudo rmmod bluetooth   
rmmod: ERROR: Module bluetooth is in use by: bnep btbcm btrtl btusb rfcomm 
btintel

I should mention that I have another wireless mouse/keyboard combo
(Microsoft) with its own USB dongle. This is self-contained, requires
no configuration and Just Works. It doesn't show up in the BT settings 
dialogues but it may be what's preventing the rmmod from working.

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Re: Strange message banner during dnf update

2015-10-26 Thread Neal Becker
jd1008 wrote:

> Got a banner pop-up saying
> 
> Application: kded5 (deleted) (kded5 (deleted)), signal: Aborted
> [Current thread is 1 (LWP 2422)]
> 
> Thread 1 (LWP 2422):
> #0  0x620c8a5d in ?? ()
> Backtrace stopped: Cannot access memory at address 0xb877c250
> 
> 
> 
> The process is still running though:
> 
> $ ps -p 2422
>PID TTY  TIME CMD
>   2422 ?00:00:04 kded5
> 
> Not sure what to make of it.
> 

my WAG is that you updated kde while using it, causing some weird error.  
Reboot and should be fine.

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Re: F23 ?

2015-10-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 05:10:44PM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> just like DNF, fedup is lacking in man pages...
> $ man fedup
> No manual entry for fedup

Is your system up to date? If it's not, please update. If it is, you
just don't have it installed. Fedup is now provided by a DNF plugin, so
`sudo dnf install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade` should do it.

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Re: F23 ?

2015-10-26 Thread Paul Cartwright



On 10/26/2015 11:01 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 05:10:44PM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:

>just like DNF, fedup is lacking in man pages...
>$ man fedup
>No manual entry for fedup

Is your system up to date? If it's not, please update. If it is, you
just don't have it installed. Fedup is now provided by a DNF plugin, so
`sudo dnf install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade` should do it.

that actually installed 2 programs..
Installing:
 dnf-plugin-system-upgrade   noarch   0.4.1-1.fc22 updates44 k
 python2-dnf-plugin-system-upgrade   noarch   0.4.1-1.fc22 updates25 k


and I run dnf update once or twice a day...
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Firefox crashes on Facebook

2015-10-26 Thread Antonio M
I ma experiencing some crashes when I go to Facebook on two diffrent
systems. Never had them before...any comment??

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Re: F23 ?

2015-10-26 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 11:33:15 -0400 Paul Cartwright  
wrote:

> 
> 
> On 10/26/2015 11:01 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 05:10:44PM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> >> >just like DNF, fedup is lacking in man pages...
> >> >$ man fedup
> >> >No manual entry for fedup
> > Is your system up to date? If it's not, please update. If it is, you
> > just don't have it installed. Fedup is now provided by a DNF plugin, so
> > `sudo dnf install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade` should do it.
> that actually installed 2 programs..
> Installing:
>   dnf-plugin-system-upgrade   noarch   0.4.1-1.fc22 updates44 k
>   python2-dnf-plugin-system-upgrade   noarch   0.4.1-1.fc22 updates25 k
>
> 
> and I run dnf update once or twice a day...

If you had fedup installed the plugin got installed when it was released 
sometime ago (obsoleting the fedup package). If not, I guess you did not, since 
nothing was needed to be obsoleted or installed.

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Re: Strange message banner during dnf update

2015-10-26 Thread jd1008



On 10/26/2015 07:19 AM, Neal Becker wrote:

jd1008 wrote:


Got a banner pop-up saying

Application: kded5 (deleted) (kded5 (deleted)), signal: Aborted
[Current thread is 1 (LWP 2422)]

Thread 1 (LWP 2422):
#0  0x620c8a5d in ?? ()
Backtrace stopped: Cannot access memory at address 0xb877c250



The process is still running though:

$ ps -p 2422
PID TTY  TIME CMD
   2422 ?00:00:04 kded5

Not sure what to make of it.


my WAG is that you updated kde while using it, causing some weird error.
Reboot and should be fine.


I was using smplayer,which perhaps uses the kde libs.
Other than that, my DT is mate, and have no other KDE
app running.

The panacea (reboot and everything should be alright) is
the same panacea that is advised by
1. MS
2. My ISP
3. My Cell provider
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Re: Firefox crashes on Facebook

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 16:55 +0100, Antonio M wrote:
> I ma experiencing some crashes when I go to Facebook on two diffrent
> systems. Never had them before...any comment??

You don't say which version of Firefox. You also don't say of you tried
it with extensions disabled (always the first step when something goes
wrong).

poc

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Realtek r8169 always flapping

2015-10-26 Thread Kseniya Blashchuk
Hi everyone!
I noticed in dmesg that my ethernet link is flapping all the time
[Oct25 18:55] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
[  +3.131667] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
[Oct25 18:56] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
[  +2.763688] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
[Oct25 18:59] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
[  +3.060069] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
[Oct25 19:00] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
[  +3.559610] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
I changed the cabling, tried to plug into another switch no difference.
Any ideas will be very appreciated as this flapping brings a lot of
inconvenience.
My device in lspci:
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 10)
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Re: Firefox crashes on Facebook

2015-10-26 Thread Antonio M
you are right, using latest Firefox in Fedora 22, fully updated 41.0.2-2

I have only these plugins (no extensions)

Shockwave Flash 11.202.2.540
Gnome Shell integration
Google Talk plugin
Google Talk plugin Video renderer
ITunes application detector

All extension are on demand (Only Flash is always active)
Not tried with all extensions deactivated (Safe mode)



2015-10-26 17:32 GMT+01:00 Patrick O'Callaghan :

> On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 16:55 +0100, Antonio M wrote:
> > I ma experiencing some crashes when I go to Facebook on two diffrent
> > systems. Never had them before...any comment??
>
> You don't say which version of Firefox. You also don't say of you tried
> it with extensions disabled (always the first step when something goes
> wrong).
>
> poc
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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 11:14 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 12:01 +1030, Tim wrote:
> > Allegedly, on or about 25 October 2015, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
> > > The mouse has adequate battery and power cycling makes no
> > difference. 
> > 
> > Could try the old remote control repair trick - grind the battery
> > around
> > on the battery terminal, scrape off any oxidisation.  If it's not
> > the
> > type that can be rotated, then a minor polish of the metal on the
> > battery and terminals using something else may help.
> 
> As I said, the mouse works on another system. I should also mention
> that the mouse light is on, i.e. it does have power.
> 
> I'm leaning towards thinking the problem isn't with the mouse but
> with
> the dongle (if in fact it's a hardware issue at all).

I found an old dongle lying around and tried it. It works. The
conclusion seems obvious (though not clear).

Thanks to everyone who tried to help. I don't think it's worth pursuing
this any further. I just wonder why my logs show repeated problems
loading the driver (going back months) but nevertheless the old dongle
seemed to work until now.

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Re: Realtek r8169 always flapping

2015-10-26 Thread Rick Stevens

On 10/26/2015 09:57 AM, Kseniya Blashchuk wrote:

Hi everyone!
I noticed in dmesg that my ethernet link is flapping all the time
[Oct25 18:55] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
[  +3.131667] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
[Oct25 18:56] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
[  +2.763688] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
[Oct25 18:59] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
[  +3.060069] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
[Oct25 19:00] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
[  +3.559610] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
I changed the cabling, tried to plug into another switch no difference.
Any ideas will be very appreciated as this flapping brings a lot of
inconvenience.
My device in lspci:
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 10)


Uhm, could be a kernel issue or a driver issue. Generally when I see
that sort of thing it's an auto speed or auto duplex negotiation between
the driver and switch that isn't working. You could try forcing the
speed and duplex via something like:

sudo ethtool -s enp2s0 autoneg off duplex full speed 1000

to set a fixed 1Gbps, full duplex connection and see if that helps
stabilize things. If that works you could try to restart auto
renegotiation via

sudo ethtool -s enp2s0 autoneg on
sudo ethtool -r enp2s0

The first comment re-enables autonegotiation, the second forces a
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Re: F23 ?

2015-10-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:33:15AM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> >Is your system up to date? If it's not, please update. If it is, you
> >just don't have it installed. Fedup is now provided by a DNF plugin, so
> >`sudo dnf install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade` should do it.
> that actually installed 2 programs..
> Installing:
>  dnf-plugin-system-upgrade   noarch   0.4.1-1.fc22 updates44 k
>  python2-dnf-plugin-system-upgrade   noarch   0.4.1-1.fc22 updates25 k

Now try "man fedup". If that still doesn't work, you've got
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Re: Realtek r8169 always flapping

2015-10-26 Thread Kseniya Blashchuk
I tried disabling autoneg, and it helped, but in this case dot1x auth
doesn't work for some reason, I didn't have time to troubleshoot why, but
there is no mac address on a switch port when dot1x is enabled.
But i didn't try setting speed 1000 duplex full on a switch side. I'll try
it tomorrow once again.

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015, 9:14 PM Rick Stevens  wrote:

> On 10/26/2015 09:57 AM, Kseniya Blashchuk wrote:
> > Hi everyone!
> > I noticed in dmesg that my ethernet link is flapping all the time
> > [Oct25 18:55] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
> > [  +3.131667] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
> > [Oct25 18:56] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
> > [  +2.763688] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
> > [Oct25 18:59] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
> > [  +3.060069] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
> > [Oct25 19:00] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
> > [  +3.559610] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
> > I changed the cabling, tried to plug into another switch no difference.
> > Any ideas will be very appreciated as this flapping brings a lot of
> > inconvenience.
> > My device in lspci:
> > 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> > RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 10)
>
> Uhm, could be a kernel issue or a driver issue. Generally when I see
> that sort of thing it's an auto speed or auto duplex negotiation between
> the driver and switch that isn't working. You could try forcing the
> speed and duplex via something like:
>
> sudo ethtool -s enp2s0 autoneg off duplex full speed 1000
>
> to set a fixed 1Gbps, full duplex connection and see if that helps
> stabilize things. If that works you could try to restart auto
> renegotiation via
>
> sudo ethtool -s enp2s0 autoneg on
> sudo ethtool -r enp2s0
>
> The first comment re-enables autonegotiation, the second forces a
> renegotiation.
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Re: Realtek r8169 always flapping

2015-10-26 Thread Rick Stevens

On 10/26/2015 11:24 AM, Kseniya Blashchuk wrote:

I tried disabling autoneg, and it helped, but in this case dot1x auth
doesn't work for some reason, I didn't have time to troubleshoot why,
but there is no mac address on a switch port when dot1x is enabled.
But i didn't try setting speed 1000 duplex full on a switch side. I'll
try it tomorrow once again.


Not sure what's on the end of your dot1x, but it may be part of the
autonegotiation process to make that all work. You can leave autoneg
on to get by that, but still set the speeds and such once its done. That
may get squonked (new word) by future negotiations. Dunno.


On Mon, Oct 26, 2015, 9:14 PM Rick Stevens mailto:ri...@alldigital.com>> wrote:

On 10/26/2015 09:57 AM, Kseniya Blashchuk wrote:
 > Hi everyone!
 > I noticed in dmesg that my ethernet link is flapping all the time
 > [Oct25 18:55] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
 > [  +3.131667] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
 > [Oct25 18:56] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
 > [  +2.763688] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
 > [Oct25 18:59] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
 > [  +3.060069] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
 > [Oct25 19:00] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
 > [  +3.559610] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
 > I changed the cabling, tried to plug into another switch no
difference.
 > Any ideas will be very appreciated as this flapping brings a lot of
 > inconvenience.
 > My device in lspci:
 > 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
 > RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 10)

Uhm, could be a kernel issue or a driver issue. Generally when I see
that sort of thing it's an auto speed or auto duplex negotiation between
the driver and switch that isn't working. You could try forcing the
speed and duplex via something like:

 sudo ethtool -s enp2s0 autoneg off duplex full speed 1000

to set a fixed 1Gbps, full duplex connection and see if that helps
stabilize things. If that works you could try to restart auto
renegotiation via

 sudo ethtool -s enp2s0 autoneg on
 sudo ethtool -r enp2s0

The first comment re-enables autonegotiation, the second forces a
renegotiation.
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Re: F23 ?

2015-10-26 Thread Paul Cartwright



On 10/26/2015 02:16 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:

>that actually installed 2 programs..
>Installing:
>  dnf-plugin-system-upgrade   noarch   0.4.1-1.fc22 updates44 k
>  python2-dnf-plugin-system-upgrade   noarch   0.4.1-1.fc22 updates25 k

Now try "man fedup". If that still doesn't work, you've got
documentation disabled on your system in general. ('tsflags=nodocs' in
your dnf configuration somewhere, or else in rpmrc.)
that worked!so I had to install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade to get the man 
docs for dnf... right, who knew..

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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:

> I just wonder why my logs show repeated problems
> loading the driver (going back months) but nevertheless the old dongle
> seemed to work until now.
>

If you have a USB dongle, then the devices using that dongle are not
Bluetooth devices as far as your system is concerned, they are USB devices,
so they would not need or use the system's Bluetooth driver. The Bluetooth
driver is only needed if your system has a hardware Bluetooth device in it
and you are using that to connect your peripherals.

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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 13:50 -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan <
> pocallag...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
> 
> > I just wonder why my logs show repeated problems
> > loading the driver (going back months) but nevertheless the old
> > dongle
> > seemed to work until now.
> > 
> 
> If you have a USB dongle, then the devices using that dongle are not
> Bluetooth devices as far as your system is concerned, they are USB 
> devices, so they would not need or use the system's Bluetooth driver.
> The Bluetooth driver is only needed if your system has a hardware
> Bluetooth device in it and you are using that to connect your
> peripherals.

Then why do my BT devices (mouse, headphones, an external speaker
system) show up under the BT settings dialogue? OTOH the separate
wireless mouse/kb dongle I mentioned *is* a USB device as far as the
system is concerned, but that's another matter.

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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan 
wrote:

> Then why do my BT devices (mouse, headphones, an external speaker
> system) show up under the BT settings dialogue?
>

Maybe those devices can work with or without the dongle? Or maybe these
devices are somehow different than the devices I have experience with, that
used Bluetooth to communicate with the dongle, but didn't require any
Bluetooth software on the system, they showed up as USB devices.

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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Rick Stevens

On 10/26/2015 12:50 PM, Greg Woods wrote:


On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
mailto:pocallag...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I just wonder why my logs show repeated problems
loading the driver (going back months) but nevertheless the old dongle
seemed to work until now.


If you have a USB dongle, then the devices using that dongle are not
Bluetooth devices as far as your system is concerned, they are USB
devices, so they would not need or use the system's Bluetooth driver.


Uhm, not quite 100% true. Odds are it will use the btusb driver, which 
in turn depends on bluetooth, btrtl, btintel and btbcm which will, in

their turn, load up various firmware files and such.


The Bluetooth driver is only needed if your system has a hardware
Bluetooth device in it and you are using that to connect your peripherals.


Not necessarily. Many laptops have the bluetooth built in, but it is
internally tied to the USB system (visible in a "lsusb -v").

In fact, come to think of it, I don't know that I've ever seen a
built-in bluetooth connected to the PCI bus. But that's just me. I'm not
saying it's never been done, but I've not seen it.
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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Rick Stevens

On 10/26/2015 01:33 PM, Greg Woods wrote:


On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
mailto:pocallag...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Then why do my BT devices (mouse, headphones, an external speaker
system) show up under the BT settings dialogue?


Maybe those devices can work with or without the dongle? Or maybe these
devices are somehow different than the devices I have experience with,
that used Bluetooth to communicate with the dongle, but didn't require
any Bluetooth software on the system, they showed up as USB devices.


Those sorts of devices often have full-up driver stuff built into the
dongle, so the dongle itself does all the wireless stuff required
without bothering the system. Then, yes, they appear as USB devices
because that's all the dongle presents to the USB port. They're not
general-purpose BT dongles. My Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse does
precisely that. The wireless mouse shows up in "lsusb" as a USB-PS2
wireless mouse, but NOT as a BT mouse (because it isn't BT).

I have a Broadcom USB BT dongle. The BT dongle shows up in an "lsusb"
as a BT dongle.  Remember, Bluetooth means it uses RF in the correct
frequency bands and adheres to the Bluetooth protocols and that's all
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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 14:33 -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan <
> pocallag...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Then why do my BT devices (mouse, headphones, an external speaker
> > system) show up under the BT settings dialogue?
> > 
> 
> Maybe those devices can work with or without the dongle?

Definitely not. The speaker system has a port but it's not connected.
The headphones don't even have a physical port. BT is *only* way I ever
use these devices.

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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 14:01 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 10/26/2015 01:33 PM, Greg Woods wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
> > mailto:pocallag...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Then why do my BT devices (mouse, headphones, an external
> > speaker
> > system) show up under the BT settings dialogue?
> > 
> > 
> > Maybe those devices can work with or without the dongle? Or maybe
> > these
> > devices are somehow different than the devices I have experience
> > with,
> > that used Bluetooth to communicate with the dongle, but didn't
> > require
> > any Bluetooth software on the system, they showed up as USB
> > devices.
> 
> Those sorts of devices often have full-up driver stuff built into the
> dongle, so the dongle itself does all the wireless stuff required
> without bothering the system. Then, yes, they appear as USB devices
> because that's all the dongle presents to the USB port. They're not
> general-purpose BT dongles. My Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse does
> precisely that. The wireless mouse shows up in "lsusb" as a USB-PS2
> wireless mouse, but NOT as a BT mouse (because it isn't BT).

Which is what my extra mouse/kb combo does, as I've said.

> I have a Broadcom USB BT dongle. The BT dongle shows up in an "lsusb"
> as a BT dongle.  Remember, Bluetooth means it uses RF in the correct
> frequency bands and adheres to the Bluetooth protocols and that's all
> it means.

Mine too, and it shows up under lsusb. It has a BT MAC address which
appears under the settings dialogue, and it's also visible to hcitool
and hciconfig.  i.e. the system unquestionably knows that it's a BT
device. What it does with that information is another matter.

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Burning Fedora to iso

2015-10-26 Thread Kevin Wilson
Hello,
I want to install Fedora 22 on x86_63
I had downloaded the iso of workstation.

I know I can burn it with k3b, I did this in the past with other releases.

Is there a way I can burn it from the linux command line so the DVD
can be bootable and so that I
will  be able to install from it ? for example, with
cdrecord ?

I will appreciate if somebody can guide me as to the exact command
line parameters
which I should set in such a case.


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Re: Burning Fedora to iso

2015-10-26 Thread jd1008



On 10/26/2015 03:39 PM, Kevin Wilson wrote:

Hello,
I want to install Fedora 22 on x86_63
I had downloaded the iso of workstation.

I know I can burn it with k3b, I did this in the past with other releases.

Is there a way I can burn it from the linux command line so the DVD
can be bootable and so that I
will  be able to install from it ? for example, with
cdrecord ?

I will appreciate if somebody can guide me as to the exact command
line parameters
which I should set in such a case.


Regards,
kevin

You can burn it with wodim or with the original cdrecord.

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Re: Burning Fedora to iso

2015-10-26 Thread Porfirio Andres Paiz Carrasco
2015-10-26 15:39 GMT-06:00 Kevin Wilson :
> Hello,
> I want to install Fedora 22 on x86_63
> I had downloaded the iso of workstation.
>
> I know I can burn it with k3b, I did this in the past with other releases.
>
> Is there a way I can burn it from the linux command line so the DVD
> can be bootable and so that I
> will  be able to install from it ? for example, with
> cdrecord ?
>
> I will appreciate if somebody can guide me as to the exact command
> line parameters
> which I should set in such a case.
>
This is what you are looking for:

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Burning_ISO_images_to_disc/sec-Burning_ISO_images_to_disc-Burning-cmd-line.html

I have used wodim before, so I can confirm it's do the job.

Porfirio.
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Re: Burning Fedora to iso

2015-10-26 Thread Ed Greshko


On 10/27/2015 05:39 AM, Kevin Wilson wrote:
> Hello,
> I want to install Fedora 22 on x86_63
> I had downloaded the iso of workstation.
>
> I know I can burn it with k3b, I did this in the past with other releases.
>
> Is there a way I can burn it from the linux command line so the DVD
> can be bootable and so that I
> will  be able to install from it ? for example, with
> cdrecord ?
>
> I will appreciate if somebody can guide me as to the exact command
> line parameters
> which I should set in such a case.

I've not burned an ISO from the command line for quite some time. 
Hardly ever do it from a GUI either.  But these have worked for me in
the past.

wodim -eject -tao  speed=2 dev=/dev/sr0 -v -data whatever.iso

and

growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/sr0=whatever.iso

the /dev device may be different on your system and you could probably
use /dev/cdrom



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Re: Burning Fedora to iso

2015-10-26 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:39:08PM +0200, Kevin Wilson wrote:
> Hello,
> I want to install Fedora 22 on x86_63
> I had downloaded the iso of workstation.

Wow! a 63-bit computer, eh? that's a rare one! :) :) :)


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Re: Burning Fedora to iso

2015-10-26 Thread Rick Stevens

On 10/26/2015 03:29 PM, Fred Smith wrote:

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:39:08PM +0200, Kevin Wilson wrote:

Hello,
I want to install Fedora 22 on x86_63
I had downloaded the iso of workstation.


Wow! a 63-bit computer, eh? that's a rare one! :) :) :)


And it uses trinary code ("true", "false" and "maybe").

Oh, how I LOVE Mondays. ;-)

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Re: F23 ?

2015-10-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 02:47:44PM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
> >>>  dnf-plugin-system-upgrade   noarch   0.4.1-1.fc22 updates44 k
> >>>  python2-dnf-plugin-system-upgrade   noarch   0.4.1-1.fc22 updates25 k
> >Now try "man fedup". If that still doesn't work, you've got
> >documentation disabled on your system in general. ('tsflags=nodocs' in
> >your dnf configuration somewhere, or else in rpmrc.)
> that worked!so I had to install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade to get the
> man docs for dnf... right, who knew..

That seems unnecessarily sarcastic. It is usually the case that you
need to install a plugin to get the documentation for that plugin on
your system. How else would you expect this to work?


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Re: F23 ?

2015-10-26 Thread Paul Cartwright



On 10/26/2015 06:56 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 02:47:44PM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:

> >>>  dnf-plugin-system-upgrade   noarch   0.4.1-1.fc22 updates44 k
> >>>  python2-dnf-plugin-system-upgrade   noarch   0.4.1-1.fc22 updates25 k

> >Now try "man fedup". If that still doesn't work, you've got
> >documentation disabled on your system in general. ('tsflags=nodocs' in
> >your dnf configuration somewhere, or else in rpmrc.)

>that worked!so I had to install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade to get the
>man docs for dnf... right, who knew..

That seems unnecessarily sarcastic. It is usually the case that you
need to install a plugin to get the documentation for that plugin on
your system. How else would you expect this to work?
I guess I don't get it.. I installed ( fedora installed?) dnf, to 
replace yum.. I was told to use dnf, not yum. Not knowing anything about 
dnf I naturally tried:

$man dnf

oops, nothing there. So you say it is just natural that I should know to 
install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade to get the man pages for dnf?? seriously?

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Re: F23 ?

2015-10-26 Thread Ed Greshko


On 10/27/2015 07:08 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
>
>
> On 10/26/2015 06:56 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 02:47:44PM -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
>> > >>>  dnf-plugin-system-upgrade   noarch   0.4.1-1.fc22
>> updates44 k
>> > >>>  python2-dnf-plugin-system-upgrade   noarch   0.4.1-1.fc22
>> updates25 k
 > >Now try "man fedup". If that still doesn't work, you've got
 > >documentation disabled on your system in general.
 ('tsflags=nodocs' in
 > >your dnf configuration somewhere, or else in rpmrc.)
>>> >that worked!so I had to install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade to get the
>>> >man docs for dnf... right, who knew..
>> That seems unnecessarily sarcastic. It is usually the case that you
>> need to install a plugin to get the documentation for that plugin on
>> your system. How else would you expect this to work?
> I guess I don't get it.. I installed ( fedora installed?) dnf, to
> replace yum.. I was told to use dnf, not yum. Not knowing anything
> about dnf I naturally tried:
> $man dnf
>
> oops, nothing there. So you say it is just natural that I should know
> to install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade to get the man pages for dnf??
> seriously?

Matt was talking about the man page for the *plugin* for dnf which
provides the functionality of fedup.

As for dnf itself, if you type "man dnf" and get nothing then something
is odd about your system.

egreshko@meimei man8]$ dnf whatprovides /usr/share/man/man8/dnf.8.gz
Last metadata expiration check performed 22:48:04 ago on Mon Oct 26
08:27:03 2015.
dnf-1.1.3-1.fc22.noarch : Package manager forked from Yum, using libsolv
as a
: dependency resolver
Repo: @System

man dnf produces

DNF(8)DNF   
DNF(8)

NAME
   dnf - DNF Command Reference

SYNOPSIS
   dnf [options]  [...]

DESCRIPTION
   DNF  is  the  next  upcoming major version of Yum, a package
manager for
   RPM-based Linux distributions. It roughly  maintains  CLI 
compatibility
   with  Yum and defines strict API for extensions and plugins.
Plugins can
   modify or extend features of DNF or provide additional CLI 
commands  on
   top  of  those  mentioned  below. If you know the name of such a
command
   (including commands mentioned bellow), you may find/install the 
package
   which  provides  it using the appropriate virtual provide in the
form of
   dnf-command() where  is the  name  of  the 
command;  e.g.
   dnf-command(repoquery)  for  a  repoquery  command  (the same
applies to
   specifying dependencies of packages that require a particular
command).

   Available commands:
.
.
.
.

on all my systems.
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Can't upgrade F21 to F22

2015-10-26 Thread CLOSE Dave
Output below. This has been repeated all day. Any thoughts?

[root@dsusim ~]# cat /etc/fedora-release
Fedora release 21 (Twenty One)

[root@dsusim ~]# fedup --clean
resetting bootloader config
removing boot images
removing downloaded packages
removing miscellaneous files

[root@dsusim ~]# yum update
Loaded plugins: langpacks
No packages marked for update

[root@dsusim ~]# fedup --network 22
setting up repos...
default-installrepo/metalink|  14 kB  00:00
default-installrepo | 3.6 kB  00:00
default-installrepo/group_gz| 106 kB  00:04
default-installrepo/primary_db  | 1.4 MB  00:37
fedora/22/x86_64/metalink   |  14 kB  00:00
fedora/22/x86_64| 3.8 kB  00:00
fedora/22/x86_64/group_gz   | 230 kB  00:03
fedora/22/x86_64/primary_db |  18 MB  07:45
google-chrome   |  951 B  00:00
google-chrome/primary   | 1.8 kB  00:00
rpmfusion-free/22/x86_64| 3.0 kB  00:00
rpmfusion-free/22/x86_64/primary_db | 337 kB  00:04
rpmfusion-free-updates/22/x86_64| 3.0 kB  00:00
rpmfusion-free-updates/22/x86_64/primary_db |  70 kB  00:02
rpmfusion-nonfree/22/x86_64 | 3.0 kB  00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree/22/x86_64/primary_db  | 101 kB  00:01
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates/22/x86_64 | 3.0 kB  00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates/22/x86_64/primary_db  |  29 kB  00:00
updates/22/x86_64/metalink  |  13 kB  00:00
updates/22/x86_64   | 4.7 kB  00:00
updates/22/x86_64/group_gz  | 230 kB  00:01
updates/22/x86_64/updateinfo| 814 kB  00:17
updates/22/x86_64/primary_db| 6.9 MB  02:32
getting boot images...
.treeinfo.signed| 2.0 kB  00:00

Downloading failed: couldn't get boot images: No more mirrors to try.
Last error was: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 503 - Service Unavailable

Debuglog shows that fedup tried at least 34 systems.
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Re: F23 ?

2015-10-26 Thread Paul Cartwright



On 10/26/2015 07:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

Matt was talking about the man page for the*plugin*  for dnf which
provides the functionality of fedup.

As for dnf itself, if you type "man dnf" and get nothing then something
is odd about your system.
ack, I think you are right, I'm getting confused between fedup & dnf.. 
my bad.. I apologize.
meanwhile, currently man dnf & man fedup both display results.. now I 
just wait for f23 to become finalized..
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Re: Realtek r8169 always flapping

2015-10-26 Thread Kseniya Blashchuk
Tried setting just speed 1000 duplex full - no difference.
After that set speed 1000 duplex full on a switch side - link down O_o.
After changing to 100 everything is working.
Now set ETHTOOL_OPTS="autoneg off speed 100 duplex full" only on my side
(and auto on a switch - standard port config)
No flapping so far on 100Mbps. I think I will use this workaround, still
very strange why it doesn't work properly on 1000, I guess its a kernel
module problem or something like that. If anybody still has any suggestions
about 1Gbps - you are welcome :).

пн, 26 окт. 2015 г. в 21:47, Rick Stevens :

> On 10/26/2015 11:24 AM, Kseniya Blashchuk wrote:
> > I tried disabling autoneg, and it helped, but in this case dot1x auth
> > doesn't work for some reason, I didn't have time to troubleshoot why,
> > but there is no mac address on a switch port when dot1x is enabled.
> > But i didn't try setting speed 1000 duplex full on a switch side. I'll
> > try it tomorrow once again.
>
> Not sure what's on the end of your dot1x, but it may be part of the
> autonegotiation process to make that all work. You can leave autoneg
> on to get by that, but still set the speeds and such once its done. That
> may get squonked (new word) by future negotiations. Dunno.
>
> > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015, 9:14 PM Rick Stevens  > > wrote:
> >
> > On 10/26/2015 09:57 AM, Kseniya Blashchuk wrote:
> >  > Hi everyone!
> >  > I noticed in dmesg that my ethernet link is flapping all the time
> >  > [Oct25 18:55] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
> >  > [  +3.131667] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
> >  > [Oct25 18:56] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
> >  > [  +2.763688] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
> >  > [Oct25 18:59] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
> >  > [  +3.060069] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
> >  > [Oct25 19:00] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link down
> >  > [  +3.559610] r8169 :02:00.0 enp2s0: link up
> >  > I changed the cabling, tried to plug into another switch no
> > difference.
> >  > Any ideas will be very appreciated as this flapping brings a lot
> of
> >  > inconvenience.
> >  > My device in lspci:
> >  > 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> >  > RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 10)
> >
> > Uhm, could be a kernel issue or a driver issue. Generally when I see
> > that sort of thing it's an auto speed or auto duplex negotiation
> between
> > the driver and switch that isn't working. You could try forcing the
> > speed and duplex via something like:
> >
> >  sudo ethtool -s enp2s0 autoneg off duplex full speed 1000
> >
> > to set a fixed 1Gbps, full duplex connection and see if that helps
> > stabilize things. If that works you could try to restart auto
> > renegotiation via
> >
> >  sudo ethtool -s enp2s0 autoneg on
> >  sudo ethtool -r enp2s0
> >
> > The first comment re-enables autonegotiation, the second forces a
> > renegotiation.
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