Problem - All grub kernel options not showing?

2015-10-25 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
Had a load shedding issue that hit my college building at 2am and building 
generator didn't kick in, and UPS didn't say up for the hour outage. Went in at 
about 6:30am on Sunday to fix things, and found that one of my main servers 
was coming up with the grub menu, but only the options for memtest and my 
g4l special option were showing up. None of the kernel option would show 
up? After booting with the g4l option with its kernel, I was able to look at 
the 
grub.cfg file, and options are there in the grub.cfg file. 

I was able to get it to load the kernel by copying the kernel options to the 
end, 
and removing the extra stuff after the menuentry name?? I had also 
commented out the load_video line, and switched, the linux16 and initrd16 to 
linux and initrd, but don't think that was the issue, since after doing a 
reboot, 
it wouldn't show the opiton until I changed it to just
menuentry 'Fedora' {

I though it might be the blkid that was off, but it seems to be correct. 
Below is the current grub.cfg that I had made on the machine using 
grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
Originally, it went thru, but the reboot showed only the memtest option, and 
the g4l option, and I did the coping of the line, and modification to get it to 
boot.  

Had a 7am meeting that I ended up being late for, since I could get the 
machines all up quickly. Machine is now running, but still don't know why the 
regulare grub menu options are not showing. The 20+ other machines seem 
to have the grub working just fine. This machine did recently have a 
motherboard failure, and it was replaced, but everything else was the same. 

Below is the grub.cfg and the output of blkid??

Thanks.


#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub2-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
set pager=1

if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
  load_env
fi
if [ "${next_entry}" ] ; then
   set default="${next_entry}"
   set next_entry=
   save_env next_entry
   set boot_once=true
else
   set default="${saved_entry}"
fi

if [ x"${feature_menuentry_id}" = xy ]; then
  menuentry_id_option="--id"
else
  menuentry_id_option=""
fi

export menuentry_id_option

if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
  set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
  save_env saved_entry
  set prev_saved_entry=
  save_env prev_saved_entry
  set boot_once=true
fi

function savedefault {
  if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
saved_entry="${chosen}"
save_env saved_entry
  fi
}

function load_video {
  if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
insmod all_video
  else
insmod efi_gop
insmod efi_uga
insmod ieee1275_fb
insmod vbe
insmod vga
insmod video_bochs
insmod video_cirrus
  fi
}

if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
   font=unicode
else
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos2'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos2 
--hint-efi=hd0,msdos2 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos2 --hint='hd0,msdos2'  
1228e51c-1d2f-43b0-a792-84d87541e746
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
1228e51c-1d2f-43b0-a792-84d87541e746
fi
font="/usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2"
fi

if loadfont $font ; then
  set gfxmode=auto
  load_video
  insmod gfxterm
  set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
  set lang=en_US
  insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 
--hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1 --hint='hd0,msdos1'  
606cfbb3-1aed-4527-bbb2-78ab50772212
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
606cfbb3-1aed-4527-bbb2-78ab50772212
fi
insmod png
background_image -m stretch /verne.png
if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then
  set timeout_style=menu
  set timeout=30
# Fallback normal timeout code in case the timeout_style feature is
# unavailable.
else
  set timeout=30
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
menuentry 'Fedora (fedup) 22 (Twenty Two)' --class fedora --class gnu-linux 
--class gnu --class os --unrestricted $menuentry_id_option 
'gnulinux-fedup-advanced-1228e51c-1d2f-43b0-a792-84d87541e746' {
savedefault
#   load_video
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 
--hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1 --hint='hd0,msdos1'  
606cfbb3-1aed-4527-bbb2-78ab50772212
else
  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 
606cfbb3-1aed-4527-bbb2-78ab50772212
fi
linux16 /vmlinuz-fedup 
root=UUID=1228e51c-1d2f-43b0-a792-84d87541e746 ro quiet rhgb 
initrd16 /initramfs-fedup.img
}
menuentry 'Fedora (4.2.3-200.fc22.x86_64) 22 (Twenty Two)' --class f

command line controlling gnome-alsamixer

2015-10-25 Thread Tim
Is there a way to control gnome-alsamixer, so I can toggle the mute on
and off for microphone *monitoring*?  (That's hearing it back through
the soundcard, using the hardware mixer.)

Or another controller for the mixer?  No, the CLI alsamixer doesn't give
control for that parameter.  Well, not that I can see.

I want to hear sidetone when doing VOIP while wearing headphones.  And I
don't want to have to open the mixer panel every time I start or stop a
VOIP session.

Leaving the microphone monitoring on all the time isn't an option.  It
adds unwanted noise, and is a potential audio feedback source if not
wearing headphones.


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Re: openweather GNOME plugin and forecast.io

2015-10-25 Thread Andre Robatino
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On 10/25/2015 01:29 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 03:06 +, Andre Robatino wrote:
>> Matthew Saltzman  clemson.edu> writes:
>> 
>>> 
>>> My issue is the reverse of the thread about
>>> openweathermap.org. Openweathermap.org is working fine for me
>>> in the OpenWeather GNOME plugin, but if I switch to
>>> forecast.io, nothing loads. This used to work fine a couple of
>>> months ago, but now it fails on multiple machines. I have API
>>> keys for both sources and I can log into both from a browser.
>>> 
>>> I find the forecast.io reports more accurate than 
>>> openweathermap.org, so I'd prefer to switch, if I could get it
>>> working again.
>> 
>> Are you on F21? Recently forecast.io changed to require HTTPS,
>> and F22 and F23 have stable update fixes, but the F21 version 
>> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-b1924702b4
>> is still in testing (but just reached 7 days in testing so
>> probably will be pushed to stable soon, even if no one tests
>> it).
>> 
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1270604#c8
> 
> Sorry, should have mentioned, I'm on F22. OpenWeather version is
> 39, installed via the GNOME Plugins Web site and TweakTool.

Well, I'm on F22 and
gnome-shell-extension-openweather-1-0.7.20151017git34aa242.fc22.noarch
(the current stable version) is working fine for me using either
forecast.io or openweathermap.org. I don't know whether what you're
using has the fix, but probably not.

P.S. The F21 version was just submitted for stable and should be in
the next F21 push. I received your message as an email but it hasn't
appeared in the users list, even though you CC'd it to that, and I
don't know if this one will either.

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Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
Once again my BT mouse is acting up and I have no idea why. I've been
using it with no problems for months, through successive updates to the
kernel, and it has Just Worked. Then suddenly it doesn't. The
configuration dialogues (on both Gnome and KDE) see the mouse and give
its Mac address, show it as paired, trusted and not blocked, but say
it's "unreachable". The mouse has adequate battery and power cycling
makes no difference.

My BT adaptor is a Broadcom dongle. It has up to date firmware (as of a
couple of months ago).

This has happened several times in the past (e.g. see 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-March/447579.html)
and just as suddenly seems to fix itself, sometimes after several days
of complete frustration.

This is F22 fully updated, using both kernel-4.1.8-200.fc22.x86_64 and
 kernel-4.2.3-200.fc22.x86_64

The mouse has never failed on my other system, a laptop running Fedora
21 but with a builtin BT adaptor.

If anyone has something to suggest, I'm all ears.

poc
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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread jd1008



On 10/25/2015 12:04 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

Once again my BT mouse is acting up and I have no idea why. I've been
using it with no problems for months, through successive updates to the
kernel, and it has Just Worked. Then suddenly it doesn't. The
configuration dialogues (on both Gnome and KDE) see the mouse and give
its Mac address, show it as paired, trusted and not blocked, but say
it's "unreachable". The mouse has adequate battery and power cycling
makes no difference.

My BT adaptor is a Broadcom dongle. It has up to date firmware (as of a
couple of months ago).

This has happened several times in the past (e.g. see
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-March/447579.html)
and just as suddenly seems to fix itself, sometimes after several days
of complete frustration.

This is F22 fully updated, using both kernel-4.1.8-200.fc22.x86_64 and
  kernel-4.2.3-200.fc22.x86_64

The mouse has never failed on my other system, a laptop running Fedora
21 but with a builtin BT adaptor.

If anyone has something to suggest, I'm all ears.

poc
Had a similar problem. I changed the batteries with brand new one (Super 
Alkaline) and it worked.


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Re: openweather GNOME plugin and forecast.io

2015-10-25 Thread Andre Robatino
Andre Robatino  fedoraproject.org> writes:

> P.S. The F21 version was just submitted for stable and should be in
> the next F21 push. I received your message as an email but it hasn't
> appeared in the users list, even though you CC'd it to that, and I
> don't know if this one will either.

My message just appeared in the users list, but yours never did. In
addition, although you CC'd me directly by email, and I CC'd you back using
the return address provided, I got a Failure Notice:

Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address.

:
No MX or A records for nospammail.net



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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 18:04 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Once again my BT mouse is acting up and I have no idea why. I've been
> using it with no problems for months, through successive updates to
> the
> kernel, and it has Just Worked. Then suddenly it doesn't. The
> configuration dialogues (on both Gnome and KDE) see the mouse and
> give
> its Mac address, show it as paired, trusted and not blocked, but say
> it's "unreachable". The mouse has adequate battery and power cycling
> makes no difference.
> 
> My BT adaptor is a Broadcom dongle. It has up to date firmware (as of
> a
> couple of months ago).
> 
> This has happened several times in the past (e.g. see 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-March/447579.htm
> l)
> and just as suddenly seems to fix itself, sometimes after several
> days
> of complete frustration.
> 
> This is F22 fully updated, using both kernel-4.1.8-200.fc22.x86_64
> and
>  kernel-4.2.3-200.fc22.x86_64
> 
> The mouse has never failed on my other system, a laptop running
> Fedora
> 21 but with a builtin BT adaptor.
> 
> If anyone has something to suggest, I'm all ears.
> 
> poc

Just for completeness, here's a log dump which someone might be able to
understand:

$journalctl -b -l -o short-monotonic | grep -i blue
[2.294578] Bree kernel: Bluetooth: Core ver 2.20
[2.294593] Bree kernel: Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager 
initialized
[2.294596] Bree kernel: Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[2.294598] Bree kernel: Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[2.294608] Bree kernel: Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[2.312726] Bree kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: chip id 63
[2.313725] Bree kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: BCM20702A1 (001.002.014) build 
[2.339341] Bree kernel: bluetooth hci0: Direct firmware load for 
brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd failed with error -2
[2.339347] Bree kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: Patch 
brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd not found
[5.102184] Bree systemd[1]: Starting Bluetooth service...
[5.109797] Bree bluetoothd[806]: Bluetooth daemon 5.29
[5.199531] Bree bluetoothd[806]: Starting SDP server
[5.201420] Bree systemd[1]: Started Bluetooth service.
[5.201656] Bree systemd[1]: Reached target Bluetooth.
[5.201766] Bree systemd[1]: Starting Bluetooth.
[5.201842] Bree audit[1]:  pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 
ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 msg='unit=bluetooth 
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? 
res=success'
[5.238569] Bree kernel: Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3
[5.238570] Bree kernel: Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast
[5.238574] Bree kernel: Bluetooth: BNEP socket layer initialized
[5.208905] Bree bluetoothd[806]: Bluetooth management interface 1.9 
initialized
[5.209071] Bree bluetoothd[806]: Failed to obtain handles for "Service 
Changed" characteristic
[5.676508] Bree NetworkManager[964]:   Loaded device plugin: 
NMBluezManager (/usr/lib64/NetworkManager/libnm-device-plugin-bluetooth.so)
[5.803045] Bree NetworkManager[964]:   use BlueZ version 5
[   24.024427] Bree kernel: Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[   24.024436] Bree kernel: Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[   24.024508] Bree kernel: Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11
[   26.882525] Bree bluetoothd[806]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.47 
path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource
[   26.882725] Bree bluetoothd[806]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.47 
path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSink
[   65.605241] Bree bluetoothd[806]: 20:73:13:05:12:E9: error updating 
services: Host is down (112)
[10902.864929] Bree kernel: Bluetooth: hci0 corrupted ACL packet
[10911.020911] Bree gnome-bluetooth-panel.desktop[5970]: 
(gnome-control-center:5970): Bluetooth-WARNING **: Setting up 
/org/bluez/hci0/dev_00_22_43_CF_48_8E failed: 
GDBus.Error:org.bluez.Error.AuthenticationFailed: Authentication Failed
[11006.432150] Bree gnome-bluetooth-panel.desktop[5970]: 
(gnome-control-center:5970): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_ascii_strdown: assertion 'str 
!= NULL' failed
[11007.571248] Bree bluetoothd[806]: ** Message: vendor 0x0 product: 0x0
[11013.479790] Bree gnome-bluetooth-panel.desktop[5970]: 
(gnome-control-center:5970): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_ascii_strdown: assertion 'str 
!= NULL' failed
[11013.480746] Bree gnome-bluetooth-panel.desktop[5970]: 
(gnome-control-center:5970): Bluetooth-WARNING **: Setting up 
/org/bluez/hci0/dev_20_73_13_05_12_E9 failed: 
GDBus.Error:org.bluez.Error.AlreadyExists: Already Exists
[11016.495833] Bree gnome-bluetooth-panel.desktop[5970]: 
(gnome-control-center:5970): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_ascii_strdown: assertion 'str 
!= NULL' failed
[11016.496891] Bree gnome-bluetooth-panel.desktop[5970]: 
(gnome-control-center:5970): Bluetooth-WARNING **: Setting up 
/org/bluez/hci0/dev_20_73_13_05_12_E9 failed: 
GDBus.Error:org.bluez.Error.AlreadyExists: Already Exists
[11026.062542] Bree gnome-bluetooth-panel.desktop[5

F21 Mouse/Touchpad/Keyboard weirdness on Dell D630 Laptop

2015-10-25 Thread Max Pyziur


Greetings,

Over the last few days I've become increasingly frustrated with the 
touchpad and keyboard on my Dell Laptop. Often, the  menu 
would show up for whatever application that I was using in that moment.


And with a little more time, the  function would fail. Lastly, 
the the click function on the mouse/touchpad was somehow disabled, so that 
selecting something from a menu was not possible.


My general solution was to login from another machine via ssh, su to root, 
and then poweroff/reboot the machine.


I also dis/re-assembled the machine and cleaning it, on the speculation 
that there could be something that was causing a short somewhere.


As a troubleshooting possiblity, on bootup today I used the prior kernel 
(kernel-4.1.7-100.fc21.x86_64). So far, no mouse/touchpad/keyboard 
peculiarities.


Any recommendations on troubleshooting would be appreciated in the event 
this isn't a buggy kernel issue.


Thanks.

Max Pyziur
p...@brama.com
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Re: openweather GNOME plugin and forecast.io

2015-10-25 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 05:30 +, Kseniya Blashchuk wrote:
> For forecast.io I changed http to https in
> ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/
> openweather-extens...@jenslody.de/forecast_io.js
> 

That seems to have done the trick.  Thanks!

> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015, 6:07 AM Andre Robatino <
> robat...@fedoraproject.org>
> wrote:
> 
> > Matthew Saltzman  clemson.edu> writes:
> > 
> > > 
> > > My issue is the reverse of the thread about openweathermap.org.
> > > Openweathermap.org is working fine for me in the OpenWeather
> > > GNOME
> > > plugin, but if I switch to forecast.io, nothing loads. This used
> > > to
> > > work fine a couple of months ago, but now it fails on multiple
> > > machines. I have API keys for both sources and I can log into
> > > both from
> > > a browser.
> > > 
> > > I find the forecast.io reports more accurate than
> > > openweathermap.org,
> > > so I'd prefer to switch, if I could get it working again.
> > 
> > Are you on F21? Recently forecast.io changed to require HTTPS, and
> > F22 and
> > F23 have stable update fixes, but the F21 version
> > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-b1924702b4 is
> > still in
> > testing (but just reached 7 days in testing so probably will be
> > pushed to
> > stable soon, even if no one tests it).
> > 
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1270604#c8
> > 
> > 
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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> Had a similar problem. I changed the batteries with brand new one 
> (Super Alkaline) and it worked.

New battery made no difference.

poc
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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread jd1008



On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote:

Had a similar problem. I changed the batteries with brand new one
(Super Alkaline) and it worked.

New battery made no difference.

poc

Have trie re-authenticatinig the password? Usually 4 zeroes?
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Multi-OS setup: dual/multi-boot vs virtualbox

2015-10-25 Thread Max Pyziur



Greetings,

I'm a novice at assessing the question of  multi-boot vs using 
virtualbox.


I've seen a lot of discussion on this topic on this email list; some of it 
expressed with frustration ("I can't upgrade my Fedora installation 
because of my multi-boot setup ..."; or "why use a multi-boot system; use 
VirtualBox").


So my general interest is to continue using Fedora as my primary OS; but 
enough times, I need to use the MS Office suite.


I have a laptop (Dell Latitude E6220 with MS Windows 7 factory-installed; 
750GB HD, 8GB RAM). I've begun a few multi-boot installations using 
Fedora, to see what some of direct challenges are (the first 
steps to shrink an existing partition, in order to create room for a 
Fedora installation). But have never completed an installation.


Advice, thoughts?

Suggested links?

Much thanks,

Max Pyziur
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Re: Multi-OS setup: dual/multi-boot vs virtualbox

2015-10-25 Thread Ed Greshko


On 10/26/2015 05:55 AM, Max Pyziur wrote:
> I'm a novice at assessing the question of  multi-boot vs using
> virtualbox.
>
> I've seen a lot of discussion on this topic on this email list; some
> of it expressed with frustration ("I can't upgrade my Fedora
> installation because of my multi-boot setup ..."; or "why use a
> multi-boot system; use VirtualBox").
>
> So my general interest is to continue using Fedora as my primary OS;
> but enough times, I need to use the MS Office suite.
>
> I have a laptop (Dell Latitude E6220 with MS Windows 7
> factory-installed; 750GB HD, 8GB RAM). I've begun a few multi-boot
> installations using Fedora, to see what some of direct challenges are
> (the first steps to shrink an existing partition, in order to create
> room for a Fedora installation). But have never completed an
> installation.
>
> Advice, thoughts? 

Sounds as if you're asking for opinions.  So, I'll give you mine.

I've never used dual-boot and never saw the need in my use case.  The
only reason I would consider using dual-boot over VM's is if I were a
"gamer", and I'm not.  I use Windows for a few things but the things I
use it for don't benefit from direct access to the video hardware. 
Also, the things I use Windows for don't suffer from any performance
issues running in a VM.



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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 14:05 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> 
> On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> > > Had a similar problem. I changed the batteries with brand new one
> > > (Super Alkaline) and it worked.
> > New battery made no difference.
> > 
> > poc
> Have trie re-authenticatinig the password? Usually 4 zeroes?

The mouse is already paired. Furthermore, IIRC it has never asked me
for a key.

poc
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Re: Multi-OS setup: dual/multi-boot vs virtualbox

2015-10-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2015-10-26 at 07:33 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> 
> On 10/26/2015 05:55 AM, Max Pyziur wrote:
> > I'm a novice at assessing the question of  multi-boot vs using
> > virtualbox.
> > 
> > I've seen a lot of discussion on this topic on this email list;
> > some
> > of it expressed with frustration ("I can't upgrade my Fedora
> > installation because of my multi-boot setup ..."; or "why use a
> > multi-boot system; use VirtualBox").
> > 
> > So my general interest is to continue using Fedora as my primary
> > OS;
> > but enough times, I need to use the MS Office suite.
> > 
> > I have a laptop (Dell Latitude E6220 with MS Windows 7
> > factory-installed; 750GB HD, 8GB RAM). I've begun a few multi-boot
> > installations using Fedora, to see what some of direct challenges
> > are
> > (the first steps to shrink an existing partition, in order to
> > create
> > room for a Fedora installation). But have never completed an
> > installation.
> > 
> > Advice, thoughts? 
> 
> Sounds as if you're asking for opinions.  So, I'll give you mine.
> 
> I've never used dual-boot and never saw the need in my use case.  The
> only reason I would consider using dual-boot over VM's is if I were a
> "gamer", and I'm not.  I use Windows for a few things but the things
> I
> use it for don't benefit from direct access to the video hardware. 
> Also, the things I use Windows for don't suffer from any performance
> issues running in a VM.

I second that. A VM avoids the issues of multi-boot, gives acceptable
performance for running productivity applications (especially if you
use the VBox drivers within Windows) and easily shares files with the
host system. You can also configure it to use an elastic filesystem
(i.e. the maximum guest disk size is set but it only occupies what you
are actually using).

poc

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Re: Multi-OS setup: dual/multi-boot vs virtualbox

2015-10-25 Thread Bill Oliver

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015, Ed Greshko wrote:




On 10/26/2015 05:55 AM, Max Pyziur wrote:

I'm a novice at assessing the question of  multi-boot vs using
virtualbox

[snip]


Sounds as if you're asking for opinions.  So, I'll give you mine.

I've never used dual-boot and never saw the need in my use case.  The
only reason I would consider using dual-boot over VM's is if I were a
"gamer", and I'm not.  I use Windows for a few things but the things I
use it for don't benefit from direct access to the video hardware.
Also, the things I use Windows for don't suffer from any performance
issues running in a VM.





I still *try* (see below) to do a dual boot setup because of the occasional 
hardware issue.

For instance, the linux driver for my flatbed scanner is no longer supported 
(an Epson V330) in linux.  It *used* to be supported, but Epson stopped 
updating the linux driver in 2012.  Now, it's a pain to load all the deprecated 
libraries that are necessary to make the thing work.  However, Epson still 
cranks out Windows drivers.

I can't get the drivers to work on Windows XP in virtualbox (which I have for 
the rare software I need to run on Windows), so I *try* to keep a Windows 
distro on as a dual boot for when I need to scan something (yes, I'm too cheap 
to buy a new scanner).

On the other hand... I have a habit of re-installing different linux distros on 
a whim just to see how they work.  Right now, I'm running Kubuntu, but will 
probably switch to Fedora 23 when it comes out next week (and there's 
virtualbox kernal mods available).

One of the problems with obsessive installing of random distros, is that it 
seems almost inevitable that one way or another I'll screw up the repartition.  
There's a couple of distros (I can't remember which) out there that don't make 
it easy to do custom partitioning on installation; it's easy to hit the wrong 
button and, poof, the Windows partition is gone.

That's what I get for doing my installations while watching TV and drinking 
Tennessee whiskey...

I did that when installing some distro a month or two ago, I think it was Kali, 
and I lost my Windows partition.  I've noticed that I really don't miss it.  I 
now keep an old laptop with a slightly cracked screen and Windows on it hooked 
up to my scanner, and I just use that box with I have to scan something.  I 
like having the extra disk space to hold all my junk linux files that I'm too 
paranoid to delete.

It's becoming less and less useful to have a dual-boot machine, I think, and I 
have a bad feeling about Windows 10 wrt privacy.

So, two years ago, I'd have been a big proponent of dual boot.  Today, not so 
much, particularly is you have an old obsolete box that can run some version of 
Windows that you can hook that old obsolete peripheral to.

If I were to go out and buy a new laptop today, I'd probably make a 
half-hearted attempt to maintain a Windows partition, but then I'd eventually 
screw it up -- and wouldn't really care.

Maybe I should write a manual on "Jack Daniels school of system admin."


billo



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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread jd1008



On 10/25/2015 05:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 14:05 -0600, jd1008 wrote:

On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote:

Had a similar problem. I changed the batteries with brand new one
(Super Alkaline) and it worked.

New battery made no difference.

poc

Have trie re-authenticatinig the password? Usually 4 zeroes?

The mouse is already paired. Furthermore, IIRC it has never asked me
for a key.

poc

Have you by any chance or even by mistake changed the password?
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Re: openweather GNOME plugin and forecast.io

2015-10-25 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 18:07 +, Andre Robatino wrote:
> Andre Robatino  fedoraproject.org> writes:
> 
> > P.S. The F21 version was just submitted for stable and should be in
> > the next F21 push. I received your message as an email but it
> > hasn't
> > appeared in the users list, even though you CC'd it to that, and I
> > don't know if this one will either.

My mistake. I thought my default Evo account was the one that is
subscribed to this list, but I was wrong. Fixed now.

> 
> My message just appeared in the users list, but yours never did. In
> addition, although you CC'd me directly by email, and I CC'd you back
> using
> the return address provided, I got a Failure Notice:
> 
> Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following
> address.
> 
> :
> No MX or A records for nospammail.net
> 

No idea here. That's not any of my addresses.

> 
> 
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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 18:11 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> 
> On 10/25/2015 05:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 14:05 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> > > On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> > > > > Had a similar problem. I changed the batteries with brand new
> > > > > one
> > > > > (Super Alkaline) and it worked.
> > > > New battery made no difference.
> > > > 
> > > > poc
> > > Have trie re-authenticatinig the password? Usually 4 zeroes?
> > The mouse is already paired. Furthermore, IIRC it has never asked
> > me
> > for a key.
> > 
> > poc
> Have you by any chance or even by mistake changed the password?

To repeat: there is no password. This is a mouse. Not all BT devices
use keys and I have never been asked for a password (key) for this
device. I've even unconfigured the device and re-installed it. It still
didn't ask for a key. I've also (separately) removed and re-inserted
the dongle. On insertion I get this in dmesg:

[15213.164076] usb 3-1.2: Product: BCM20702A0
[15213.164079] usb 3-1.2: Manufacturer: Broadcom Corp
[15213.164081] usb 3-1.2: SerialNumber: 000272C6AB85
[15213.172082] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: chip id 63
[15213.173129] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM20702A1 (001.002.014) build 
[15213.173307] bluetooth hci0: Direct firmware load for 
brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd failed with error -2
[15213.173312] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: Patch brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd not 
found

i.e. there's a problem loading the firmware. This happened in the past
and then stopped, but is now happening again. Googling for the error
message led me to instructions for updating the firmware, all of which
I followed last time this happened.

I've reported it to Bugzilla: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1275122

BTW, this is the dongle: http://plugable.com/products/usb-bt4le#drivers

poc

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Re: openweather GNOME plugin and forecast.io

2015-10-25 Thread Joseph Loo
On 10/25/2015 10:27 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> On Sat, 2015-10-24 at 19:30 -0700, Joseph Loo wrote:
>> On 10/24/2015 02:54 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
>>> My issue is the reverse of the thread about openweathermap.org.
>>> Openweathermap.org is working fine for me in the OpenWeather GNOME
>>> plugin, but if I switch to forecast.io, nothing loads. This used to
>>> work fine a couple of months ago, but now it fails on multiple
>>> machines. I have API keys for both sources and I can log into both
>>> from
>>> a browser.
>>>
>>> I find the forecast.io reports more accurate than
>>> openweathermap.org,
>>> so I'd prefer to switch, if I could get it working again.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions or related experiences?
>>>
>>> TIA.
>>>
>> Did you load the api key using the xxx.io registered key?
> 
> My API key appears in the OpenWeather settings window under Weather
> provider. Is that what you're asking, or is there something else I need
> to do? I can use that key to log into forecast.io's Web site.
> 
>>
I  am not sure, but remember there are 2 keys, one for .org and the
other for .io. Just a guess, since you are using the .io you might need
to get the api key from .io and put it in to make it work.

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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Joseph Loo
On 10/25/2015 05:38 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 18:11 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
>>
>> On 10/25/2015 05:50 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 14:05 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
 On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
>> Had a similar problem. I changed the batteries with brand new
>> one
>> (Super Alkaline) and it worked.
> New battery made no difference.
>
> poc
 Have trie re-authenticatinig the password? Usually 4 zeroes?
>>> The mouse is already paired. Furthermore, IIRC it has never asked
>>> me
>>> for a key.
>>>
>>> poc
>> Have you by any chance or even by mistake changed the password?
> 
> To repeat: there is no password. This is a mouse. Not all BT devices
> use keys and I have never been asked for a password (key) for this
> device. I've even unconfigured the device and re-installed it. It still
> didn't ask for a key. I've also (separately) removed and re-inserted
> the dongle. On insertion I get this in dmesg:
> 
> [15213.164076] usb 3-1.2: Product: BCM20702A0
> [15213.164079] usb 3-1.2: Manufacturer: Broadcom Corp
> [15213.164081] usb 3-1.2: SerialNumber: 000272C6AB85
> [15213.172082] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: chip id 63
> [15213.173129] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM20702A1 (001.002.014) build 
> [15213.173307] bluetooth hci0: Direct firmware load for 
> brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd failed with error -2
> [15213.173312] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: Patch brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd not 
> found
> 
> i.e. there's a problem loading the firmware. This happened in the past
> and then stopped, but is now happening again. Googling for the error
> message led me to instructions for updating the firmware, all of which
> I followed last time this happened.
> 
> I've reported it to Bugzilla: 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1275122
> 
> BTW, this is the dongle: http://plugable.com/products/usb-bt4le#drivers
> 
> poc
> 
I had this problem with gnome. What I did, is to go to the bluetooth
device manager, delete the device, and then re-pair it again. This seems
to happen once when my battery in the mouse died.

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Re: openweather GNOME plugin and forecast.io

2015-10-25 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 17:58 -0700, Joseph Loo wrote:
> On 10/25/2015 10:27 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > On Sat, 2015-10-24 at 19:30 -0700, Joseph Loo wrote:
> > > On 10/24/2015 02:54 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > > > My issue is the reverse of the thread about openweathermap.org.
> > > > Openweathermap.org is working fine for me in the OpenWeather
> > > > GNOME
> > > > plugin, but if I switch to forecast.io, nothing loads. This
> > > > used to
> > > > work fine a couple of months ago, but now it fails on multiple
> > > > machines. I have API keys for both sources and I can log into
> > > > both
> > > > from
> > > > a browser.
> > > > 
> > > > I find the forecast.io reports more accurate than
> > > > openweathermap.org,
> > > > so I'd prefer to switch, if I could get it working again.
> > > > 
> > > > Any suggestions or related experiences?
> > > > 
> > > > TIA.
> > > > 
> > > Did you load the api key using the xxx.io registered key?
> > 
> > My API key appears in the OpenWeather settings window under Weather
> > provider. Is that what you're asking, or is there something else I
> > need
> > to do? I can use that key to log into forecast.io's Web site.
> > 
> > > 
> I  am not sure, but remember there are 2 keys, one for .org and the
> other for .io. Just a guess, since you are using the .io you might
> need
> to get the api key from .io and put it in to make it work.

Got it, thanks. Note that it worked for a time before failing, so the
API key should have been good. Set the URL protocol to https and it
worked with my API key. Also, mine was version 39, but current version
50 seems to work fine as well.

Thanks for the tip, though.
> 
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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 25 October 2015, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
> The mouse has adequate battery and power cycling makes no difference. 

Could try the old remote control repair trick - grind the battery around
on the battery terminal, scrape off any oxidisation.  If it's not the
type that can be rotated, then a minor polish of the metal on the
battery and terminals using something else may help.

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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Ed Greshko


On 10/26/2015 08:38 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>
> To repeat: there is no password. This is a mouse. Not all BT devices
> use keys and I have never been asked for a password (key) for this
> device. I've even unconfigured the device and re-installed it. It still
> didn't ask for a key. I've also (separately) removed and re-inserted
> the dongle. On insertion I get this in dmesg:
>
> [15213.164076] usb 3-1.2: Product: BCM20702A0
> [15213.164079] usb 3-1.2: Manufacturer: Broadcom Corp
> [15213.164081] usb 3-1.2: SerialNumber: 000272C6AB85
> [15213.172082] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: chip id 63
> [15213.173129] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM20702A1 (001.002.014) build 
> [15213.173307] bluetooth hci0: Direct firmware load for 
> brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd failed with error -2
> [15213.173312] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: Patch brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd not 
> found
>
> i.e. there's a problem loading the firmware. This happened in the past
> and then stopped, but is now happening again. Googling for the error
> message led me to instructions for updating the firmware, all of which
> I followed last time this happened.
>
> I've reported it to Bugzilla: 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1275122
>
> BTW, this is the dongle: http://plugable.com/products/usb-bt4le#drivers
>
> poc
>

May become marked as a duplicate of
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1173852

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Sound not working with F22 on ThinkPad T60

2015-10-25 Thread Dave Johansen
I recently did a clean install of F22 Mate Spin from F21 and sound is no
longer working. I tried the recommendations from
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_sound_problems but nothing
seemed to work. Is there anything else I should try?
Thanks,
Dave
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Re: Bluetooth woes (again)

2015-10-25 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 11:50:40PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 14:05 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> > 
> > On 10/25/2015 01:57 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2015-10-25 at 12:08 -0600, jd1008 wrote:
> > > > Had a similar problem. I changed the batteries with brand new one
> > > > (Super Alkaline) and it worked.
> > > New battery made no difference.
> > > 
> > > poc
> > Have trie re-authenticatinig the password? Usually 4 zeroes?
> 
> The mouse is already paired. Furthermore, IIRC it has never asked me
> for a key.

In the past when I had problems connecting to a device that "used to
work" I would deleted it from BT's list of known devices.

However, recently I discovered that "deleting" and "unpairing" are
distinct operations.  I could not move a kbd to a different system
by deleting it from the first, I had to unpair the kbd before it 
would pair with the new system.

Jon
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