Re: [SOLVED] boot fedora 20 from usb

2014-09-28 Thread Tod Merley
USB drives tend to have firmware in front of what may wish to boot.

What I like to do is use Gparted to make room in the end of the drive (say
move the end of the drive up so that enstead of having a 16gb fat partition
I have a 1 gb fat partition and 15 gb unallocated.  I do not bother the
front of the drive (other than to add the MBR later in the Linux install).

Then treat the Flash drive as a regular drive otherwise during the install
process.

Not all flash drives will allow this.  Simply find one that does.

Currently I am using F20 flash drives to in my laptop and netbook (each
specifically made on and for the specific device) to do all of my on line
banking.  Simply I like the idea of the Flash drive not being exposed to
normal use otherwise.  I do check the security certificate fingerprints.  I
do keep the Linux install updated.


On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Paolo De Michele 
wrote:

>
> On 26/09/14 23:36, bitlord wrote:
> > On Fri, 2014-09-26 at 23:11 +0200, Paolo De Michele wrote:
> >> hi everybody,
> >>
> >> I'm not be able to boot fedora 20 x64 or x32 from usb (I tried fedora
> >> kde live, fedora complete and centos 6.5 minimal)
> >> I used a lot of software like liveusb-creator, unetbootin and the shell
> >> command like dd
> >>
> >> the pendrive is formatted in vfat and the client is a veriton N281G (on
> >> the bios I see that support removable devices)
> > When you are copying complete image to flash drive, you don't need to
> > format it. (useless action, you will overwrite it later)
>
> ok
>
> >>
> >> the shell command is: dd if=/dir/file.iso of=/dev/sdx1 bs=1M
> >> with liveusb-creator and the unetbootin the steps are via gui
> > Not sure for centos images (I think older ones are not compatible to be
> > directly copied to device, and don't know for new ones >=7. But fedora
> > should work fine, and when you do it, you don't copy your image to the
> > partition, but to the device, so of=/dev/sdx1 is wrong, (1,2,3 ) is
> > a partition number.
> > You need something like this
> > # dd if= of=/dev/sdx  (where X can be a,b,c,...)
> > Be careful with this method it will overwrite device with data of size
> > of the image ...
> > More info on writing usb images
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB
>
> it works
>
>
> >
> > And always when you download ISO images verify them
> > https://fedoraproject.org/verify
> >> so, where I wrong?
> >> let me know, thanks in advance
> >>
> >> regards
> >
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Re: alt+0153 -- not working

2014-09-28 Thread poma
On 27.09.2014 19:20, Doug wrote:
> On 09/27/2014 03:48 AM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
>> On 27 Sep 2014 at 3:25, bruce wrote:
>>
>> Date sent:   Sat, 27 Sep 2014 03:25:52 -0400
>> Subject: alt+0153 -- not working
>> From:bruce 
>> To:  Community support for Fedora users
>> 
>> Send reply to:   Community support for Fedora users
>> 
>>  
>>> hi..
>>>
>>> toshiba laptop - running centos/fed
>>>
>>> the alt + 0153 isnt working to create the "tm" symbol..
>>> the alt+tab does work to create the windows, so the alt key is enabled..
>>>
>>> weird, any thoughts??
>>>
>>
>> I just did it using the win key and then t and m?
>>
>> http://karthikeyan2u.blogspot.com/2013/03/how2-type-copyright-like-symbols
>> -4mur-keyboard.html
>>
>> Don't recall the Alt and numpad thing working with linux in the past?
>>
>>
>>
>>> thanks
>>> -- 
> Why not set up a compose key? Then you can make all kinds of symbols,
> foreign language characters, fractions, whatever. ™ is just one of the symbols
> you can make easily. (Compose, then t then m.)  Look up "Gtk Compose Table"
> in Google to get a long list of possibilities.
> 
> --doug
> 

together press CTRL-L & SHIFT-L & U
  then release
type 2122
  hit enter
™


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Re: battery indicator

2014-09-28 Thread poma
On 27.09.2014 19:28, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a new Dell Precision M3800 laptop and I am trying to figure out
> why the battery indicator does not work (find anything). Any suggestions
> as to how I can get this going? batti for instance is installed but
> finds nothing. However, there is a battery in the laptop, and does hold
> charge for a few hours at least.
> 
> I am running a fully updated Fedora 20 system.
> 
> Any help is of course very appreciated.
> 
> Many thanks,
> Ranjan
> 

See what can you get within /proc/acpi/...
i.e. 'acpi' - man 1 acpi, 
then how 'batti' collects BATT_INFO.


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Re: battery indicator

2014-09-28 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 16:05:33 +0200 poma 
wrote:

> On 27.09.2014 19:28, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have a new Dell Precision M3800 laptop and I am trying to figure out
> > why the battery indicator does not work (find anything). Any suggestions
> > as to how I can get this going? batti for instance is installed but
> > finds nothing. However, there is a battery in the laptop, and does hold
> > charge for a few hours at least.
> > 
> > I am running a fully updated Fedora 20 system.
> > 
> > Any help is of course very appreciated.
> > 
> > Many thanks,
> > Ranjan
> > 
> 
> See what can you get within /proc/acpi/...
> i.e. 'acpi' - man 1 acpi, 
> then how 'batti' collects BATT_INFO.

Hmmm, this is all I have in /proc/acpi

~$ ls
button/  wakeup
/proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state

However, 

~$ acpi -b
Battery 0: Discharging, 96%, 31:52:00 remaining

So, where is this information? 

Is it in /sys ? If so, where?

Thanks,
Ranjan


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openconnect/cisco vpn (Re: strange issue with ssh on F20 on DSL/VPN)

2014-09-28 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Dear friends, 

I wanted to add further: 

Cisco VPN Anyconnect does not seem to be having the problem that
openconnect is having. So, while this is a workaround for now, this
brings back closed-source back into a system.

I would still be interested in figuring out the original problem with
the openconnect plugin with NetworkManager.

Best wishes,
Ranjan

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:00:00 -0500 Ranjan Maitra
 wrote:

> Dear friends,
> 
> A bit more information that I found over the course of the afternoon
> and evening.
> 
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 16:18:31 -0500 Ranjan Maitra
>  wrote:
> 
> > So, I have a strange issue.
> > 
> > I have a local machine (laptop) connecting remotely to several desktops
> > including one that is a fully updated F20 (this is the one I have total
> > control over and therefore my choice of distributions). The others are
> > RHEL5's or Centos6. Connections are only permitted to all
> > machines through VPN (university policy). So, I on my new DSL
> > connection (which is wired and will replace my cable modem connection)
> > but currently both are active.  
> > 
> > Anyway, I can connect to all machines when I am on the cable modem
> > (using wireless) and VPN unlimited number of times. 
> > 
> > I can connect to all the non-F20 machines using ssh unlimited times
> > when I am on DSL and VPN.
> > 
> > However, I can only connect once t the F20 machine when I am on DSL and
> > the VPN. There is no way I can connect directly. (I can connect to one
> > of the non-F20 machines by ssh and from there connect to the F20 machine
> > however.) I can only connect directly again to the F20 machine by
> > ssh from my local machine by rebooting the remote F20 machine. And that
> > too for only one time. After I log out, I can not connect again.
> 
> I wanted to add that I have found out that another way to connect to
> the F20remote machine (beyond rebooting it) on the DSL/VPN. That is by
> disconnecting and reconnecting the VPN. But why should this be so? And
> also why does this not happen with the other machines that are not
> running Fedora but older Centos/RHEL distributions. And why does it not
> matter (and works fine) on a Wifi/VPN connection through a cable modem.
> 
> 
> > What should I looking for? /var/log/secure does not have any entry when
> > I can not connect (however it does have an entry when I cancel the
> > connection by Ctrl-C -- "Connection closed").
> > 
> > Any suggestions as to how to diagnose and solve this problem?
> > 
> > Sorry for bringing forth the strangest of questions. I am hoping that
> > someone more familiar with networking issues will have some idea and
> > suggestions on what is going on.
> > 
> 
> Thanks again for any much-needed help!
> 
> Best wishes,
> Ranjan
> 
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Re: 5tFTW: F21 Alpha, Shellshock, Schedule Docs Update, Flock 2015 Locations, and a Fedora User Committee idea (2014-09-26)

2014-09-28 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 11:53:06AM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> Thanks, I've already read them all. However, some of the information
> given is not precise enough or could be misinterpreted. For ex., to me it
> looks like that the GNOME desktop will be the only DE supported (and
> installable). 

No, that's not the case, by a long shot. It is true that Workstation is
based on the GNOME desktop, but that's incidental to the point. You'll still
be able to install any desktop, including GNOME, outside of the Workstation
product. However, Workstation is currently going to be the main
desktop-user-targeted deliverable that we're focusing Fedora resources on.

That doesn't mean that we're going to take away other options (or the
ability to work on them in Fedora!). Fundamentally, this is a marketing
strategy: it's much more effective to pick some key areas and make a huge
measurable impact than it is to do a small amount in every direction with no
focus. The goal is, in fact, for that focused success to spread out to
increase Fedora use in all areas.

As for whether it's a way you don't like — try it and see, and if it doesn't
fit, there's probably a spin or some other areas in Fedora which suits
better. And if that's still not for you, that's okay too.



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Re: alt+0153 -- not working

2014-09-28 Thread bruce
wow!

that works... weird series of keys there .. is there a site where some
of these are documented? in searching, didn't find one.

thanks..



On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:55 AM, poma  wrote:
> On 27.09.2014 19:20, Doug wrote:
>> On 09/27/2014 03:48 AM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
>>> On 27 Sep 2014 at 3:25, bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> Date sent:   Sat, 27 Sep 2014 03:25:52 -0400
>>> Subject: alt+0153 -- not working
>>> From:bruce 
>>> To:  Community support for Fedora users
>>> 
>>> Send reply to:   Community support for Fedora users
>>> 
>>>
 hi..

 toshiba laptop - running centos/fed

 the alt + 0153 isnt working to create the "tm" symbol..
 the alt+tab does work to create the windows, so the alt key is enabled..

 weird, any thoughts??

>>>
>>> I just did it using the win key and then t and m?
>>>
>>> http://karthikeyan2u.blogspot.com/2013/03/how2-type-copyright-like-symbols
>>> -4mur-keyboard.html
>>>
>>> Don't recall the Alt and numpad thing working with linux in the past?
>>>
>>>
>>>
 thanks
 --
>> Why not set up a compose key? Then you can make all kinds of symbols,
>> foreign language characters, fractions, whatever. ™ is just one of the 
>> symbols
>> you can make easily. (Compose, then t then m.)  Look up "Gtk Compose Table"
>> in Google to get a long list of possibilities.
>>
>> --doug
>>
>
> together press CTRL-L & SHIFT-L & U
>   then release
> type 2122
>   hit enter
> ™
>
>
> poma
>
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Re: Problem after uninstalling rpmfusion nvidia packages

2014-09-28 Thread JD
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 9:52 PM, JD  wrote:

> Hi all,
> After I unstalled
>
> kmod-nvidia-3.16.3-200.fc20.x86_64-331.89-2.fc20.x86_64
> kmod-nvidia-3.16.2-200.fc20.x86_64-331.89-2.fc20.11.x86_64
> akmod-nvidia-331.89-2.fc20.x86_64
> kmod-nvidia-3.16.2-201.fc20.x86_64-331.89-2.fc20.12.x86_64
> xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-331.89-2.fc20.x86_64
> xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-331.89-2.fc20.x86_64
>
> Network daemon no longer detects wifi AP's !!
> Even though it is running.
>
> Also, the display is a virtual display, larger than physical.
> This was not the case before removal.
> And it was not the case before I had installed the rpmfusion
> nvidia packages.
> That, in and of itself is not as annoying as inability
> to connect to the network.
>
> Reason I want them removed is because when kernel panics,
> abrt says it is tainted, and will not allow me to submit the problem.
> And I have been having many kernel panics, especially rebooting
> after hibernation.
>
> How can I bring system fuctionality back to before I had
> installed the rpmfusion nvidia packages?
>

​I have googled for this problem and found no hits.
Does anyone have an idea how to proceed?​
​If I cold restore normal networking operations
would be a great help.​

​Thanx!

JD​
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Re: alt+0153 -- not working

2014-09-28 Thread poma
On 28.09.2014 18:01, bruce wrote:
> wow!
> 
> that works... weird series of keys there .. is there a site where some
> of these are documented? in searching, didn't find one.
> 
> thanks..

http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt

also gnome-character-map/gucharmap/charmap & kcharselect
http://fsymbols.com/character-maps/linux

slightly different input method:
http://fsymbols.com/keyboard/linux/unicode/


poma


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_input

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Re: battery indicator

2014-09-28 Thread poma
On 28.09.2014 16:26, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 16:05:33 +0200 poma 
> wrote:
> 
>> On 27.09.2014 19:28, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a new Dell Precision M3800 laptop and I am trying to figure out
>>> why the battery indicator does not work (find anything). Any suggestions
>>> as to how I can get this going? batti for instance is installed but
>>> finds nothing. However, there is a battery in the laptop, and does hold
>>> charge for a few hours at least.
>>>
>>> I am running a fully updated Fedora 20 system.
>>>
>>> Any help is of course very appreciated.
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Ranjan
>>>
>>
>> See what can you get within /proc/acpi/...
>> i.e. 'acpi' - man 1 acpi, 
>> then how 'batti' collects BATT_INFO.
> 
> Hmmm, this is all I have in /proc/acpi
> 
> ~$ ls
> button/  wakeup
> /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state
> 
> However, 
> 
> ~$ acpi -b
> Battery 0: Discharging, 96%, 31:52:00 remaining
> 
> So, where is this information? 
> 
> Is it in /sys ? If so, where?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ranjan
> 

See what can you get within
/sys/class/power_supply/...

https://code.google.com/p/batti-gtk/
  Batti is a simple battery monitor for the system tray, similar to batterymon. 
  Unlike the latter batti uses *UPower*, and if that is missing 
DeviceKit.Power, for it's power information. 

http://upower.freedesktop.org/
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Power_Management_Guide/upower.html

$ man 1 upower
...
BUGS
   Please send bug reports to either the distribution or the DeviceKit 
mailing list, see
   http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/devkit-devel on how to 
subscribe.


poma

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Re: alt+0153 -- not working

2014-09-28 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA


On 09/28/14 12:59, poma wrote:

On 28.09.2014 18:01, bruce wrote:

wow!

that works... weird series of keys there .. is there a site where some
of these are documented? in searching, didn't find one.

thanks..

http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt

also gnome-character-map/gucharmap/charmap & kcharselect
http://fsymbols.com/character-maps/linux

slightly different input method:
http://fsymbols.com/keyboard/linux/unicode/


poma


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_input



With XFCE, Applications Menu > Accessories > Character Map > Common

Click on character of interest and the hex code appears at the bottom.

Bob

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Re: alt+0153 -- not working

2014-09-28 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,

I did not find any character set for the math symbols.
Does it not exist?

Thank.

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> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 at 7:30 PM
> From: "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" 
> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Subject: Re: alt+0153 -- not working
>
> 
> On 09/28/14 12:59, poma wrote:
> > On 28.09.2014 18:01, bruce wrote:
> >> wow!
> >>
> >> that works... weird series of keys there .. is there a site where some
> >> of these are documented? in searching, didn't find one.
> >>
> >> thanks..
> > http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.txt
> >
> > also gnome-character-map/gucharmap/charmap & kcharselect
> > http://fsymbols.com/character-maps/linux
> >
> > slightly different input method:
> > http://fsymbols.com/keyboard/linux/unicode/
> >
> >
> > poma
> >
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_input
> >
> 
> With XFCE, Applications Menu > Accessories > Character Map > Common
> 
> Click on character of interest and the hex code appears at the bottom.
> 
> Bob
> 
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Re: alt+0153 -- not working

2014-09-28 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA


On 09/28/14 14:02, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

I did not find any character set for the math symbols.
Does it not exist?

Thank.



I see some math symbols in XFCE, Applications Menu > Accessories > 
Character Map > Common

but they are mixed in with many others.

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Re: fetchmail finding downloaded mail

2014-09-28 Thread Alex
Hi,

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-09-24 at 22:31 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> On Wed, 2014-09-24 at 16:53 -0400, Alex wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > >> > There are no "real" folders in Gmail. It's a database. "Folders" are
>> > >> > simply labels (which is why the same message can be in multiple
>> > >> > "folders"). Possibly Trash is a special case of messages marked for
>> > >> > deletion (as happens on IMAP servers), I wouldn't know.
>> > >>
>> > >> I meant "real" in terms of accessibility from IMAP, compared to the
>> > >> labels/filters that can be created and aren't really part of IMAP at
>> > >> all.
>> > >>
>> > >> So I moved the 260k messages I had in Trash to some folder called
>> > >> [imap]/Trash, and as the name implies, I was then able to access them
>> > >> using fetchmail.
>> > >
>> > > AFAIK they are all accessible from IMAP, however your IMAP client may
>> > > not be subscribed to all of them. For example, I don't subscribe to the
>> > > Gmail Trash folder (label) from Evolution because Evo has its own
>> > > virtual Trash folder which is slightly different (it follows the
>> > > canonical IMAP model, which strictly speaking Gmail doesn't).
>> >
>> > I'm pretty sure there are some folders that just aren't available.
>> > There's also an option in Settings that allows you to select/unselect
>> > which folders are visible to IMAP, and the general Trash folder is not
>> > there, along with many other folders.
>> >
>> > "All Mail" is another folder that I just can't figure out how to access.
>>
>> I do see the Gmail Trash folder (and [IMAP]/Trash which is different and
>> has nothing in it currently). I also see Drafts, Important, Starred and
>> Sent Mail, but not Chats, Spam or All Mail, so they are clearly special
>> cases.
>
> This just in: I went to the Gmail settings pane and enabled all the
> above, and they all appear under the Folder Subscriptions dialogue in
> Evolution. IOW they aren't that special (though Gmail describes them as
> "System Labels".

There are two Trash folders. One labelled Trash, which I could not
access, and one labelled [imap]/Trash, which was accessible, once
enabled in the Subscriptions you describe.

Thanks,
Alex
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control the files in /etc/init

2014-09-28 Thread Mike Wright

Hi all,

Having a brain fart here.

Running f20.  I created a file under /etc/init but I don't remember how 
to get the system to recognize it.


I've tried "service", "chkconfig", "systemctl" and am getting nowhere.

Anybody remember how do control the files in that directory?

TIA,
Mike Wright
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Re: control the files in /etc/init

2014-09-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 15:49:05 -0700
Mike Wright wrote:

> Running f20.  I created a file under /etc/init but I don't remember how 
> to get the system to recognize it.

I'm pretty sure /etc/init is only used by upstart, which fedora 20
doesn't use.
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[SOLVED] control the files in /etc/init

2014-09-28 Thread Mike Wright

09/28/2014 03:49 PM, Mike Wright wrote:

Hi all,

Having a brain fart here.

Running f20.  I created a file under /etc/init but I don't remember how
to get the system to recognize it.

I've tried "service", "chkconfig", "systemctl" and am getting nowhere.

Anybody remember how do control the files in that directory?


Found the answer immediately after asking for help...

They are triggered by the "runlevel" command.  I typed "runlevel 5" and 
the commands I needed were started.


Sorry for the noise.
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Re: fetchmail finding downloaded mail

2014-09-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2014-09-28 at 18:39 -0400, Alex wrote:
> > This just in: I went to the Gmail settings pane and enabled all the
> > above, and they all appear under the Folder Subscriptions dialogue
> in
> > Evolution. IOW they aren't that special (though Gmail describes them
> as
> > "System Labels".
> 
> There are two Trash folders. One labelled Trash, which I could not
> access, and one labelled [imap]/Trash, which was accessible, once
> enabled in the Subscriptions you describe.

As mentioned previously, I'm seeing both of them. You have to enable the
IMAP view in the Gmail settings for each folder of interest, *and* also
subscribe to it from the IMAP client, but I assume you already know
that.

poc

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Re: battery indicator

2014-09-28 Thread Ranjan Maitra
> 
> See what can you get within
> /sys/class/power_supply/...



Thanks! There are the files in:

/sys/class/power_supply/BAT1

alarm   energy_full_design  presentuevent
capacityenergy_now  serial_number  voltage_min_design
capacity_level  manufacturerstatus voltage_now
cycle_count model_name  subsystem@
device@ power/  technology
energy_full power_now   type

Which of these files can be monitored?

Btw, I don't use batti but use actually use conky. How is the
information put in? Previously with other machines this is what would
work

${offset 0} ${color slate grey} BAT: ${color } $battery 


Thanks,
Ranjan


> https://code.google.com/p/batti-gtk/
>   Batti is a simple battery monitor for the system tray, similar to 
> batterymon. 
>   Unlike the latter batti uses *UPower*, and if that is missing 
> DeviceKit.Power, for it's power information. 
> 
> http://upower.freedesktop.org/
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Power_Management_Guide/upower.html
> 
> $ man 1 upower
> ...
> BUGS
>Please send bug reports to either the distribution or the DeviceKit 
> mailing list, see
>http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/devkit-devel on how to 
> subscribe.
> 
> 
> poma
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journalctl high CPU load, reboot, not rsyslogd is the problem

2014-09-28 Thread Richard Shaw
I was trying out the new gnome software center and was installing a few
things, then it crashed and I heard the CPU fan cranking up.

Checked atop and journalctl was maxing out one core. I tried restarting it
but it didn't help so I figured a restart was in order.

Immediately after logging in the cpu fan cranked back up but when I checked
atop, it was rsyslogd and not journalctl.

I tried restarting abrtd (based on another thread), and rsyslogd but it
didn't help. I finally had to stop the service.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Richard
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