Re: Re: /dev/md[12] vanished

2013-11-19 Thread Tom H 
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Kevin H. Hobbs  wrote:
>
> I found this bug:
>
> "dracut doesn't copy etc/mdadm.conf into the initramfs image"
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1015204
>
> which looks exactly like what I'm describing.
>
> Thank you for your response.

You're welcome, not that I was of any help.

So IIUC "#mdadmconf=no" was enough in a previous version for
mdadm.conf to be copied into the initramfs but you now need
"mdadmconf=yes"?
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Re: Change of UID

2013-11-19 Thread Ian Malone 
On 19 November 2013 02:05, Rick Stevens  wrote:
> On 11/18/2013 04:12 PM, Timothy Murphy issued this missive:
>
>> Tim wrote:
>>
 But on re-installing the system
 (which had been in operation for several years)
 I found my UID had changed from 500 to 1000.

 I dealt with this by chown -R, which worked fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> I've just gone through a similar change, when installing a newer release
>>> into a LAN with mixed releases, and wanted the same usernames to have
>>> the same UIDs and GIDs, everywhere.  It just makes things so much
>>> easier.
>>>
>>> I decided to change the older release up to the newer IDs, rather than
>>> fight against the system.  So, in my case, on the older system, I:
>>>
>>> edited /etc/password to change my old UID from 500 to 1000
>>> edited /etc/group to change my old GID from 500 to 1000
>>> chown -R tim:tim /home/tim/
>>> chown tim:tim /var/spool/mail/tim
>>
>>
>> Just a note to say that I followed this advice,
>> and it worked perfectly.
>> Thank you.
>
>
> In the future, you could also do:
>
> # find / -uid  -gid  -exec chown tim:tim
> \{\} \;
>
> Example:
>
> # find / -uid 500 -gid 500 -exec chown tim:tim \{\} \;
>
> That will find any file on the system that's owned by user 500 and
> group 500 and change its ownership to user "tim", group "tim". Quite
> handy for this activity and ensures you don't miss anything.

Things to bear in mind with this method:
1. It remaps 500:500 to tim:tim. Under some circumstances you may want
to separately map groups and uids (whatever approach you take that
requires at least two commands).
2. -exec CMD OPTS '{}' ';' will call chown for each file. This can be
unnecessarily slow. The alternative -exec CMD OPTS '{}' '+' will
append multiple files to each command invocation. (I've never checked
whether there's a single invocation and suspect not as I've never seen
it run into argument length limits.)

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Re: Change of UID

2013-11-19 Thread Joachim Backes 
On 11/19/2013 09:39 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
> On 19 November 2013 02:05, Rick Stevens  wrote:
>> On 11/18/2013 04:12 PM, Timothy Murphy issued this missive:
>>
>>> Tim wrote:
>>>
> But on re-installing the system
> (which had been in operation for several years)
> I found my UID had changed from 500 to 1000.
>
> I dealt with this by chown -R, which worked fine.


 I've just gone through a similar change, when installing a newer release
 into a LAN with mixed releases, and wanted the same usernames to have
 the same UIDs and GIDs, everywhere.  It just makes things so much
 easier.

 I decided to change the older release up to the newer IDs, rather than
 fight against the system.  So, in my case, on the older system, I:

 edited /etc/password to change my old UID from 500 to 1000
 edited /etc/group to change my old GID from 500 to 1000
 chown -R tim:tim /home/tim/
 chown tim:tim /var/spool/mail/tim
>>>
>>>
>>> Just a note to say that I followed this advice,
>>> and it worked perfectly.
>>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>> In the future, you could also do:
>>
>> # find / -uid  -gid  -exec chown tim:tim
>> \{\} \;
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> # find / -uid 500 -gid 500 -exec chown tim:tim \{\} \;

Alternative:  # find / -uid 500 -gid 500 -| xargs chown tim:tim

Advantage: Only 1 chown command  invocation

Kind regards

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Re: touchpad

2013-11-19 Thread Hiisi 
On 18 November 2013 00:34, Richard Vickery wrote:

> I wonder if anyone knows how to bring up a touchpad?
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
>
Off-topic: I thought you're out of this list, aren't you?
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Re: Change of UID

2013-11-19 Thread Ian Malone 
On 19 November 2013 09:27, Joachim Backes  wrote:

>> On 19 November 2013 02:05, Rick Stevens  wrote:
>>> On 11/18/2013 04:12 PM, Timothy Murphy issued this missive:
>>>

> edited /etc/password to change my old UID from 500 to 1000
> edited /etc/group to change my old GID from 500 to 1000
> chown -R tim:tim /home/tim/
> chown tim:tim /var/spool/mail/tim


 Just a note to say that I followed this advice,
 and it worked perfectly.
 Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>> In the future, you could also do:
>>>
>>> # find / -uid  -gid  -exec chown tim:tim
>>> \{\} \;
>>>
>>> Example:
>>>
>>> # find / -uid 500 -gid 500 -exec chown tim:tim \{\} \;
>
> Alternative:  # find / -uid 500 -gid 500 -| xargs chown tim:tim
>
> Advantage: Only 1 chown command  invocation
>

Following up on my earlier email, I tried both the xargs and find
-exec CMD '{}' '+' (N.B. difference between '+' and ';') strategies on
a directory with 134858 files (both running echo) and found both
actually ran 72 times. So they use similar strategies for combining
arguments (there's a limit to how many arguments can be passed to a
program, even without shell involvement). On the other hand, xargs
chokes on a different input directory:
":xargs: unmatched single quote; by default quotes are special to
xargs unless you use the -0 option"
because xargs reads strings (via the pipe) it can be a bit trickier to
get corner cases handled correctly, which is why I usually avoid it
for working with general file names. find exec never needs to worry
about quoting as it passes the arguments directly (though the program
it's exec-ing needs to be able to handle general file names too).
Find does have an option (action), -print0 which null terminates names
to work with xargs -0 option:
find / -uid 500 -gid 500 -print0 |xargs chown tim:tim
However unless you want the extra options xargs allows (like
interactive mode), I don't think this gains anything over '+'
terminated exec.

All this is contributes to why the chown -R --from is my preference
for this case, there's no separate program invocation at all (and less
issues about race conditions, or concerns about path).


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Re: Change of UID

2013-11-19 Thread Tim 
Tim:
>> I decided to change the older release up to the newer IDs, rather
>> than fight against the system.  So, in my case, on the older
>> system, I:
>>
>> edited /etc/password to change my old UID from 500 to 1000
>> edited /etc/group to change my old GID from 500 to 1000
>> chown -R tim:tim /home/tim/
>> chown tim:tim /var/spool/mail/tim

Timothy Murphy:
> Just a note to say that I followed this advice,
> and it worked perfectly.
> Thank you.

You're welcome.  That's probably all that most people need to do.  If
they ran other servers or databases, there maybe personally owned files
in other places.

It occurred to me, much later, that depending on *when* you edited
password and group files, the chown command mightn't correlate the
username with the new UID and GID.  I'm not sure if that information is
cached, or simply read from the file at time of execution.   If it
doesn't work, there may be some logging out and back in again needed, or
to use UID and GID numbers instead of names, in the chown command.

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Re: touchpad

2013-11-19 Thread Tim 
On Sun, 2013-11-17 at 12:34 -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
> I wonder if anyone knows how to bring up a touchpad? 

Don't eat them in the first place...

I think you need to provide more details, though.  What sort of touchpad
is it, is it completely dormant, etc.

The one built into my laptop "just worked," and has done since at least
Fedora 9.  There could be hotkeys on your keyboard that disable the
touchpad, or something like plugging a mouse in disables it (not that
I've seen that behaviour on Linux).

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Re: mouse track-pad

2013-11-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan 
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Richard Vickery <
richard.vicker...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe I posted on the test list as well
>


In which case you're violating the Guidelines by cross-posting. I notice
you did this for another thread as well. Doing this means that people who
reply on different lists will not see each other's comments, which is why
it's frowned on.

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How to disable module in initrd

2013-11-19 Thread Gianluca Cecchi 
Hello I would like to recompile initrd on f19 without qla2xxx that is
giving me problems on boot.
How to do it? Dracut seems to ignore blacklist in .conf file under
modprobe.d
Thanks
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Re: How to disable module in initrd

2013-11-19 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz 
On 19.11.2013 14:07, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> Hello I would like to recompile initrd on f19 without qla2xxx that is
> giving me problems on boot.
> How to do it? Dracut seems to ignore blacklist in .conf file under
> modprobe.d
> Thanks
> Gianluca
> 
> 
> 

man 5 dracut.conf -> section: omit_drivers


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Re: How to disable module in initrd

2013-11-19 Thread Gianluca Cecchi 
On Tue Nov 19 13:30:32 UTC 2013 Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
> man 5 dracut.conf -> section: omit_drivers

It seems not to work.
Created /etc/dracut.conf.d/qla2xxx_omit.conf
# cat /etc/dracut.conf.d/qla2xxx_omit.conf
omit_drivers+="qla2xxx "

dracut  --force "initramfs-3.11.8-200.fc19.x86_64.img" 3.11.8-200.fc19.x86_64
I continue to see qla2xxx inside the generated initrd and server has
problems to boot.

Tried also from command line:
dracut --omit "qla2xxx" --force "initramfs-3.11.8-200.fc19.x86_64.img"
3.11.8-200.fc19.x86_64

but again qla2xxx is inside initrd and booting I have problems..
# gunzip < /boot/initramfs-3.11.8-200.fc19.x86_64.img | cpio
-itdmuv|grep qla2xxx
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root0 Nov 19 15:28
usr/lib/modules/3.11.8-200.fc19.x86_64/kernel/drivers/scsi/qla2xxx
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   822783 Nov 13 17:55
usr/lib/modules/3.11.8-200.fc19.x86_64/kernel/drivers/scsi/qla2xxx/qla2xxx.ko
54688 blocks

BTW: where is the old "init" script that loaded the kernel modules in the past?
WHat if I want to manually remove qla2xxx from generated initrd?
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Re: How to disable module in initrd

2013-11-19 Thread Tom Horsley 
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:06:15 +0100
Gianluca Cecchi wrote:

> WHat if I want to manually remove qla2xxx from generated initrd?

I'm pretty sure the initrd files are really just gzip compressed
cpio archives, so you could uncompress it, extract the files, and
do anything you want to them, then rebuild it (probably a good
idea to keep the original in case everything goes wrong :-).
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Re: How to disable module in initrd

2013-11-19 Thread Michael Cronenworth 

Gianluca Cecchi wrote:

How to do it? Dracut seems to ignore blacklist in .conf file under modprobe.d


Are you referring to /etc/modprobe.d/? Try placing a file in /lib/modprobe.d/.
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Re: How to disable module in initrd

2013-11-19 Thread Gianluca Cecchi 
On Tue Nov 19 15:13:24 UTC 2013 Tom Horsley wrote:
> I'm pretty sure the initrd files are really just gzip compressed
> cpio archives, so you could uncompress it, extract the files, and
> do anything you want to them, then rebuild it (probably a good
> idea to keep the original in case everything goes wrong :-).

I see it.
But before dracut days I was able to:
1. extract the archive
2. remove module.ko file from /lib
3. remove from init file the line "insmod module.ko"
4. re-create archive

Now the "init" file inside initrd seems to be systemd and so I'm not
sure if only removing qla2xxx.ko is ok or not.
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Re: Re: /dev/md[12] vanished

2013-11-19 Thread Kevin H. Hobbs 
>>
>> "dracut doesn't copy etc/mdadm.conf into the initramfs image"
>>
> 
> So IIUC "#mdadmconf=no" was enough in a previous version for
> mdadm.conf to be copied into the initramfs but you now need
> "mdadmconf=yes"?


That's my understanding as well.

Much of the discussion in the bug talks about failure to boot.

I can still boot because my /etc/fstab has all UUID's not device names.

My only symptom is that mdadm complains when it tries to monitor the
arrays...





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Re: How to disable module in initrd

2013-11-19 Thread Tom H 
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Gianluca Cecchi
 wrote:
>
> BTW: where is the old "init" script that loaded the kernel modules in the 
> past?

# lsinitrd /boot/initramfs-3.13.0-0.rc0.git6.1.fc21.x86_64.img | grep 'init ->'
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   24 Nov 19 16:40 init ->
/usr/lib/systemd/systemd
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   24 Nov 19 16:40 usr/sbin/init
-> /usr/lib/systemd/systemd
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Re: How to disable module in initrd

2013-11-19 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz 
On 19.11.2013 16:06, Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> On Tue Nov 19 13:30:32 UTC 2013 Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote:
>> man 5 dracut.conf -> section: omit_drivers
> 
> It seems not to work.
> Created /etc/dracut.conf.d/qla2xxx_omit.conf
> # cat /etc/dracut.conf.d/qla2xxx_omit.conf
> omit_drivers+="qla2xxx "
> 
> dracut  --force "initramfs-3.11.8-200.fc19.x86_64.img" 3.11.8-200.fc19.x86_64
> I continue to see qla2xxx inside the generated initrd and server has
> problems to boot.
> 
> Tried also from command line:
> dracut --omit "qla2xxx" --force "initramfs-3.11.8-200.fc19.x86_64.img"
> 3.11.8-200.fc19.x86_64
> 
> but again qla2xxx is inside initrd and booting I have problems..
> # gunzip < /boot/initramfs-3.11.8-200.fc19.x86_64.img | cpio
> -itdmuv|grep qla2xxx
> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root0 Nov 19 15:28
> usr/lib/modules/3.11.8-200.fc19.x86_64/kernel/drivers/scsi/qla2xxx
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root   822783 Nov 13 17:55
> usr/lib/modules/3.11.8-200.fc19.x86_64/kernel/drivers/scsi/qla2xxx/qla2xxx.ko
> 54688 blocks
> 
> BTW: where is the old "init" script that loaded the kernel modules in the 
> past?
> WHat if I want to manually remove qla2xxx from generated initrd?
> Gianluca
> 

This doesn't resolve you're problem but it might help you diagnose what
is going on there. In /etc/dracut.conf enable logging by removing
comment from:

logfile=/var/log/dracut.log

In /var/log/dracut.log, you should have results of running dracut
command. Maybe this will tell you something useful.


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Not connecting over LAN

2013-11-19 Thread Beartooth 

I have several machines on a LAN (and a KVM switch that I use 
when they're all functioning). Most are online over ethernet via a Linksys 
modem running DD-WRT v24-sp2 (10/10/09)micro; and I can normally ssh from 
any to any. 

But at present there are two on which ssh in either direction 
gets only Connection refused. Both are running F18, fully updated.

What is likely to be the glitch, and how can I fix it?

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VMs do not shutdown when powering off a F20 host

2013-11-19 Thread Juan Orti Alcaine 
Hello,

I have upgraded to F20 and now my virtual machines don't shutdown when I
shutdown the host.

In /etc/sysconfig/libvirt-guests I have:
ON_SHUTDOWN=shutdown
SHUTDOWN_TIMEOUT=100

This is what I see in the log (in Spanish):

# journalctl -a _SYSTEMD_UNIT=libvirt-guests.service
_SYSTEMD_UNIT=libvirtd.service

nov 17 23:38:15 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: libvirt version: 1.1.3.1,
package: 1.fc20 (Fedora Project, 2013-11-06-18:12:08,
buildvm-04.phx2.fedoraproject.org)
nov 17 23:38:15 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Received unexpected event 1
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Error interno: Fin del
archivo desde monitor
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Error interno: Falta objeto
de respuesta de monitor
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Ejecutando
huéspedes en URI default:lithium
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Cerrando
huéspedes en URI default...
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Starting shutdown
on guest: lithium
nov 17 23:38:17 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Object (nil) ((unknown)) is
not a virObjectLockable instance
nov 17 23:38:17 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Argumento inválido: el
monitor no debe poseer un valor NULL
nov 17 23:38:17 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Error:Falló al
apagar el dominio 3ee0acb2-3da9-7045-868c-3dec16e03ad1
nov 17 23:38:17 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Error:Argumento
inválido: el monitor no debe poseer un valor NULL


Which translated is something like:

nov 17 23:38:15 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: libvirt version: 1.1.3.1,
package: 1.fc20 (Fedora Project, 2013-11-06-18:12:08,
buildvm-04.phx2.fedoraproject.org)
nov 17 23:38:15 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Received unexpected event 1
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Internal error: End of file
from monitor
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Internal error: Response
object from monitor is missing
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Running guests in
URI default:lithium
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Closing guests in
default URI...
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Starting shutdown
on guest: lithium
nov 17 23:38:17 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Object (nil) ((unknown)) is
not a virObjectLockable instance
nov 17 23:38:17 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Invalid argument: monitor
must not have a NULL value
nov 17 23:38:17 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Error:Failed to
shutdown domain 3ee0acb2-3da9-7045-868c-3dec16e03ad1
nov 17 23:38:17 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Error:Invalid
argument: monitr must not have a NULL value


Any idea? do I open a bug report?

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Re: VMs do not shutdown when powering off a F20 host

2013-11-19 Thread Rick Stevens 

On 11/19/2013 10:32 AM, Juan Orti Alcaine issued this missive:

Hello,

I have upgraded to F20 and now my virtual machines don't shutdown when I
shutdown the host.

In /etc/sysconfig/libvirt-guests I have:
ON_SHUTDOWN=shutdown
SHUTDOWN_TIMEOUT=100

This is what I see in the log (in Spanish):

# journalctl -a _SYSTEMD_UNIT=libvirt-guests.service
_SYSTEMD_UNIT=libvirtd.service

nov 17 23:38:15 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: libvirt version: 1.1.3.1,
package: 1.fc20 (Fedora Project, 2013-11-06-18:12:08,
buildvm-04.phx2.fedoraproject.org)
nov 17 23:38:15 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Received unexpected event 1
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Error interno: Fin del
archivo desde monitor
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Error interno: Falta objeto
de respuesta de monitor
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Ejecutando
huéspedes en URI default:lithium
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Cerrando
huéspedes en URI default...
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Starting shutdown
on guest: lithium
nov 17 23:38:17 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Object (nil) ((unknown)) is
not a virObjectLockable instance
nov 17 23:38:17 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Argumento inválido: el
monitor no debe poseer un valor NULL
nov 17 23:38:17 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Error:Falló al
apagar el dominio 3ee0acb2-3da9-7045-868c-3dec16e03ad1
nov 17 23:38:17 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Error:Argumento
inválido: el monitor no debe poseer un valor NULL


Which translated is something like:

nov 17 23:38:15 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: libvirt version: 1.1.3.1,
package: 1.fc20 (Fedora Project, 2013-11-06-18:12:08,
buildvm-04.phx2.fedoraproject.org)
nov 17 23:38:15 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Received unexpected event 1
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Internal error: End of file
from monitor
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Internal error: Response
object from monitor is missing
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Running guests in
URI default:lithium
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Closing guests in
default URI...
nov 17 23:38:16 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Starting shutdown
on guest: lithium
nov 17 23:38:17 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Object (nil) ((unknown)) is
not a virObjectLockable instance
nov 17 23:38:17 xenon.miceliux.com libvirtd[750]: Invalid argument: monitor
must not have a NULL value
nov 17 23:38:17 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Error:Failed to
shutdown domain 3ee0acb2-3da9-7045-868c-3dec16e03ad1
nov 17 23:38:17 xenon.miceliux.com libvirt-guests.sh[21049]: Error:Invalid
argument: monitr must not have a NULL value


Any idea? do I open a bug report?


F20 is not officially released yet so this isn't the forum for this
question. It should be directed to the fedora-test-list. If you
subscribe there, you'll see there have been a number of issues with
libvirt and shutting down VMs.
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Re: VMs do not shutdown when powering off a F20 host

2013-11-19 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz 
On 19.11.2013 19:32, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have upgraded to F20 and now my virtual machines don't shutdown when I 
> shutdown the host.
> 
> [...]
>
> Any idea? do I open a bug report?
> 


https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-November/118835.html



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Re: Not connecting over LAN

2013-11-19 Thread Marvin Kosmal 
Hi

Can you ping these other machines?

Is SSHD running on these machines?

HTH

Marvin



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>
> I have several machines on a LAN (and a KVM switch that I use
> when they're all functioning). Most are online over ethernet via a Linksys
> modem running DD-WRT v24-sp2 (10/10/09)micro; and I can normally ssh from
> any to any.
>
> But at present there are two on which ssh in either direction
> gets only Connection refused. Both are running F18, fully updated.
>
> What is likely to be the glitch, and how can I fix it?
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Re: VMs do not shutdown when powering off a F20 host

2013-11-19 Thread Juan Orti Alcaine 
El Martes, 19 de noviembre de 2013 21:01:49 Mateusz Marzantowicz escribió:
> On 19.11.2013 19:32, Juan Orti Alcaine wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I have upgraded to F20 and now my virtual machines don't shutdown when I
> > shutdown the host.
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > Any idea? do I open a bug report?
> 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-November/118835.html
> 
> 
> 
> Mateusz Marzantowicz

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Re: Not connecting over LAN

2013-11-19 Thread Tim 
Allegedly, on or about 19 November 2013, Beartooth sent:
> 
> I have several machines on a LAN (and a KVM switch that I use 
> when they're all functioning). Most are online over ethernet via a
> Linksys modem running DD-WRT v24-sp2 (10/10/09)micro; and I can
> normally ssh from any to any. 
> 
> But at present there are two on which ssh in either direction 
> gets only Connection refused. Both are running F18, fully updated.
> 
> What is likely to be the glitch, and how can I fix it? 

Reboot the things in the middle (the Linksys modem & KVM switch) that'd
be my first step.  Perhaps shutdown, pull out the power, and restart
completely fresh.  Swap some network cables around between different
sockets.  Check that ssh daemon is running, firewalls have suitable
holes in them, and SELinux allows sshd.

In operation, if you see network indicator lights madly flicking on and
off, for no apparent reason, that can be a network "flapping."  Or, if
you see a light that's permanently on, even when it shouldn't be (e.g.
it should flicker when there's traffic, go out when equipment is off).
They could be temporary glitches that'll be fixed by a hard reset, it
could be permanent component failure.

I've had to replace several network switches, over the years, as they've
crapped out for one reason or another.  There's been simple power supply
pack failures.  And they span between buildings, with a fairly long UTP
cable, so I suspect EMR picked up from lightning storms may zap some of
the circuitry.  And since no affordable network devices bother to put
isolating transformers on inputs and outputs (galvanic isolation), any
grounding differences between buildings are probably stressing input
circuits.

Though one managed to survive a rather bad mains active to earth leak,
for a very long time (wildlife in the ceiling attacking the lighting
wiring - on a couple of occasions I've heard rustles in the ceiling,
brief lighting dims and a nasty electric-chair buzzing sounds, animal
screeching then running like mad through the roof, which has been
somewhat amusing to hear the buggers get their comeuppance).  And I've
still got the copper wiring spot-welded to the screwdriver that I
experimentally placed between two lots of earth wiring.  I'm glad I
mistrusted someone else's electrical work enough to test it, rather than
put my fingers on earth wiring expecting it to be safe.  I wasn't
expecting that rather extreme reaction, though.

That's my situation (sporadic hardware failures), but it may shed light
on someone else having equipment failures.

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UEFI: After upgrade from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1, F19 grub menu does not appear

2013-11-19 Thread Nick Urbanik 

Dear Folks,

I installed Fedora 19 on my son's laptop, and it worked beautifully
with the already installed Windows 8.  Then foolishly, I upgraded the
Windows 8 to Windows 8.1.  Now it boots straight to Windows 8.1 and
grub does not appear.

I disabled secure boot in the firmware.

I do not even know which version of grub was booting the UEFI system
before; it just worked.

Now I need to know.

Can anyone suggest:

1. What grub would the Fedora 19 installer have provided to boot it
   and Windows 8?  (grub2, grub-efi,...)
2. Can anyone point to any documentation on how to fix this?

I am a little nervous on this, as I once attempted to upgrade an F18
UEFI stand alone system from grub-efi to grub2 with the result that I
could not boot the machine, and wound up re-installing Fedora.

I have a live disk, can boot the machine with that, and have some
experience with grub and non-EFI systems.
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[FIXED] Re: UEFI: After upgrade from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1, F19 grub menu does not appear

2013-11-19 Thread Nick Urbanik 

Dear Folks,

On 20/11/13 09:53 +1100, Nick Urbanik wrote:

Dear Folks,

I installed Fedora 19 on my son's laptop, and it worked beautifully
with the already installed Windows 8.  Then foolishly, I upgraded the
Windows 8 to Windows 8.1.  Now it boots straight to Windows 8.1 and
grub does not appear.

I disabled secure boot in the firmware.

I do not even know which version of grub was booting the UEFI system
before; it just worked.

Now I need to know.

Can anyone suggest:

1. What grub would the Fedora 19 installer have provided to boot it
  and Windows 8?  (grub2, grub-efi,...)
2. Can anyone point to any documentation on how to fix this?

I am a little nervous on this, as I once attempted to upgrade an F18
UEFI stand alone system from grub-efi to grub2 with the result that I
could not boot the machine, and wound up re-installing Fedora.

I have a live disk, can boot the machine with that, and have some
experience with grub and non-EFI systems.


After much poking around, and seeing 
http://askubuntu.com/questions/240496/how-to-show-grub-after-install-ubuntu-over-windows-8

and reading documentation, I did this from a Fedora 19 Live CD;
gdisk to see the partition layout, then efibootmgr to fix it:

[liveuser@localhost ~]$ sudo gdisk /dev/sda
...
Command (? for help): p
Disk /dev/sda: 976773168 sectors, 465.8 GiB
Logical sector size: 512 bytes
Disk identifier (GUID): 8EB52CEC-C6A8-4A63-8AB3-3675A2AB07DE
Partition table holds up to 128 entries
First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 976773134
Partitions will be aligned on 2048-sector boundaries
Total free space is 2029 sectors (1014.5 KiB)

Number  Start (sector)End (sector)  Size   Code  Name
   12048  821247   400.0 MiB   2700  Basic data partition
   2  821248 1435647   300.0 MiB   EF00  EFI system partition
   3 1435648 1697791   128.0 MiB   0C01  Microsoft reserved part
   4 1697792   223358975   105.7 GiB   0700  Basic data partition
   5   223358976   224075775   350.0 MiB   2700  
   6   224075776   937428991   340.2 GiB   8E00  
   7   937428992   976773119   18.8 GiB2700  Basic data partition


Command (? for help): q
...
[liveuser@localhost ~]$ mount |grep -i efi
efivarfs on /sys/firmware/efi/efivars type efivarfs 
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
[liveuser@localhost ~]$ sudo efibootmgr -c -p 2 -d /dev/sda -l "\EFI\fedora\grubx64.efi" 
-L "Fedora"
** Warning ** : Boot0002 has same label Fedora
BootCurrent: 
Timeout: 2 seconds
BootOrder: 0003,,0001,0002
Boot* ATAPI CDROM: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GT51N
Boot0001* Windows Boot Manager
Boot0002* Fedora
Boot0003* Fedora
[liveuser@localhost ~]$ 


Now grub works, and both Fedora and Windows 8.1 boot.
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Re: Wish List.....

2013-11-19 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. 

On 11/17/2013 07:37 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:




On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Richard Vickery 
mailto:richard.vicker...@gmail.com>> wrote:


It /is/ possible to buy one and install it on Fedora on it. I
remember that when I had an earlier Blackberry it was possible to
install another platform. It's likely possible to to do it on this
device as well - just plug a USB cord in it.


On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 3:48 PM, EGO.II-1 mailto:eoconno...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Would _love_ to see F19 on THIS device! Who would I have to
contact to see if it can be done?

ZaReason Tablet Device 


EGO II

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Sorry... I top posted... damn it! LOL


Well I've decided I've been a "good boy" this year...so guess who's 
going to get one of these and install Fedora on it?...LOL! I'll keep you 
posted as to how it goes!



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Re: UEFI: After upgrade from Windows 8 to Windows 8.1, F19 grub menu does not appear

2013-11-19 Thread Gilboa Davara 
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:53 AM, Nick Urbanik
 wrote:
> Dear Folks,
>
> I installed Fedora 19 on my son's laptop, and it worked beautifully
> with the already installed Windows 8.  Then foolishly, I upgraded the
> Windows 8 to Windows 8.1.  Now it boots straight to Windows 8.1 and
> grub does not appear.
>
> I disabled secure boot in the firmware.
>
> I do not even know which version of grub was booting the UEFI system
> before; it just worked.
>
> Now I need to know.
>
> Can anyone suggest:
>
> 1. What grub would the Fedora 19 installer have provided to boot it
>and Windows 8?  (grub2, grub-efi,...)
> 2. Can anyone point to any documentation on how to fix this?
>
> I am a little nervous on this, as I once attempted to upgrade an F18
> UEFI stand alone system from grub-efi to grub2 with the result that I
> could not boot the machine, and wound up re-installing Fedora.
>
> I have a live disk, can boot the machine with that, and have some
> experience with grub and non-EFI systems.
> --

Hi,

In a number of laptops @work that have Fedora + *gasp* Windows 8.1, we
actually found out that grub was not damaged, instead, we simply had
to point the BIOS to a different partition.

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media player

2013-11-19 Thread Rafnews 

Hi,

i'm looking for a media player (DVD and divx) for my son's computer 
using Fedora 19.


i need a particular feature as he's only 3 years old... i need to have 
the same feature as under GOM Player... to tell the media player to 
shutdown computer after the DVD/divx movie ended... like it exists in 
GOM Player for Windows world.


i didn't find such feature in VLC or SMPlayer... and i really loved 
SMPlayer from Fedora 17, too bad.


do you know some media player that integrate such feature ?

thx.

A.
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Re: media player

2013-11-19 Thread David Beveridge 
There is this...
https://wiki.videolan.org/How_to_shut_down_computer/


On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Rafnews  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i'm looking for a media player (DVD and divx) for my son's computer using
> Fedora 19.
>
> i need a particular feature as he's only 3 years old... i need to have the
> same feature as under GOM Player... to tell the media player to shutdown
> computer after the DVD/divx movie ended... like it exists in GOM Player for
> Windows world.
>
> i didn't find such feature in VLC or SMPlayer... and i really loved SMPlayer
> from Fedora 17, too bad.
>
> do you know some media player that integrate such feature ?
>
> thx.
>
> A.
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