Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 13:00, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 09:07:35AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> I cannot reproduce that: > > That's because you forgot to call setlocale (LC_ALL, ""); > first. Without that the comparison is done in C locale always. > I thought that I could set the locale in the bash environment. Other apps, such as yum, do respond to that, though they may be coded to check. Thanks. > As for why in tr_TR this is different, in tr_TR.UTF-8 > wcscasecmp (L"hijkl", L"HİJKL") == 0 > and > wcscasecmp (L"hıjkl", L"HIJKL") == 0 > (i.e. uppercase for i is LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I WITH DOT ABOVE > and lowercase for I is LATIN SMALL LETTER DOTLESS I). > This is especially problematic because i and I are single byte > in UTF-8 while İ and ı are two byte. > Thank you for that explanation. This is very important to know, and I concede that it weakens my argument in favor of a case-insensitive option for yum. In fact, I am no longer of that opinion, I am now convinced. Thanks. This is why I enjoy discussing / arguing with intelligent people. I learn new things. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 19:28, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 03/11/2011 11:03 AM, JB wrote: >> Chris Adams hiwaay.net> writes: > >> a case, where yum *has determined* that there is only *one* package matching >> its criteria. >> >> So, why interrupt a flow of execution instead of continuing the usual install >> process with final Y/N confirmation request, at which time to append a >> warning >> message about the package name selection similarity ? >> > > > Coz yum should only install exactly what you ask for - nothing else. > And the reason for that should be obvious. > Really, Yum should no longer handle dependency resolution? -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Frequent paging
Hi Fedorans, My workstation has been paging a lot lately. It's a fairly high-end system, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.6 GHz (overclocked, originally it was 3.0 GHz) and 2x2GB Corsair RAMs. lshw output: *-memory description: System Memory physical id: 19 slot: System board or motherboard size: 4GiB *-bank:0 description: DIMM 800 MHz (1.2 ns) physical id: 0 slot: A0 size: 2GiB width: 64 bits clock: 800MHz (1.2ns) *-bank:2 description: DIMM 800 MHz (1.2 ns) physical id: 2 slot: A2 size: 2GiB width: 64 bits clock: 800MHz (1.2ns) and my swap is 6 Gigs. $ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 3961 3772188 0328 1129 -/+ buffers/cache: 2315 1645 Swap: 6143153 5990 I used to be able to have uptimes of the order of a month without ever using a single Kb of my swap. But lately I start paging from a few Mb to several hundred Mb after about half a week. Whenever this happens, I find multitasking becomes impossible, e.g. opening a pdf interferes with music or video playback. I noticed a weak pattern, usually when I find my workstation is paging I have a few pdfs open. Lately I have been working with a lot of pdfs and most of these pdfs are about thousand page long documents (but only ~ 20-30 Mb in file size). I keep these open for reference as I work on my thesis. However closing evince doesn't help reduce the swap usage (at least not within the next 15-20 minutes). Apart from these symptoms I also find my system has become generally slow. Even opening the terminal or thunar (the XFCE file browser) takes a few seconds. I am on 2.6.34.8-68.fc13.x86_64. Does any one have any culprits in mind? -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Frequent paging
Suvayu Ali gmail.com> writes: > ... This is more of an empirical matter. The only kernel param is (default): # cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness 60 You have to watch what is happening when you do your daily routines. These tools may help you: http://articles.slicehost.com/2010/11/12/using-iotop-to-check-i-o-and-swap http://articles.slicehost.com/2010/11/12/using-dstat-to-check-i-o-and-swap JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: rebuild kernel add syscall
It is a homework . Use a kernel spcae as a char decieve
Which can offer open write and so on.
I just use a char buffer[128] in kernel space.
Then i have some ideas.
I can use kernel space as char device. I can also use kernel spcae as
a file system? Could it be ?
If memory can be a filesystem . Can i use a file to simulate 。
It just not be taken as a file . Like something
we store file in it.
2011/3/13 Gilboa Davara :
> On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 15:17 +0800, xinyou yan wrote:
>> I want to and a new syscall
>> 1 add
>> .long sys_mysyscall
>> inarch/x86/kernel/syscall_table_32.S
>>
>> 2add
>>#define __NR_mysyscall 341
>> inarch/x86/include/asm/unistd_32.
>>
>> 3.add
>>
>> asmlinkage int sys_mysyscall(char* sourceFile,char* destFile)
>> {
>> int source=sys_open(sourceFile,O_RDONLY,0);
>> int dest=sys_open(destFile,O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC,0600);
>> char buf[1024];
>> mm_segment_t fs;
>> fs = get_fs();
>> set_fs(get_ds());
>> int nread;
>>
>> if(source>0 && dest>0)
>> {
>> while((nread=sys_read(source,buf,1024)) > 0)
>>sys_write(dest,buf,read);
>> }
>> else
>> {
>> printk("Error!");
>> }
>> sys_close(source);
>> sys_close(dest);
>> set_fs(fs);
>> return 0;
>> }
>> in kerrnel/sys.c
>>
>> 4. make menuconfig
>> 5. make all
>> 6 make modules_install
>>
>> reboot
>>
>>
>> Now I want just do it one time
>> How can i make sure the new syscall here is mysyscall work fine ?
>
> Are you locked on using syscalls?
> Unless you really require syscalls, I'd imagine that it's far easier to
> use ioctl's instead (doesn't require a custom kernel), and use
> filp_open / filp_close / file->read / file->write to access files from
> within kernel space.
>
> Two more things:
> 1. I'd avoid using stack based allocations in kernel mode. (Down to 8KB
> in certain situations)
> 2. Always check error codes.
>
> - Gilboa
>
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Fedora on HP ProLiant DL140 G3 Dual Core Xeon 2.33Ghz SATA Server
I am looking at buying a HP ProLiant DL140 G3 and am wondering what the support on Fedora for this is like. Does latest or still supported Fedora support this hardware ? If so are there video drivers ? I found some forum which says it has Matrox G200 video driver. Many thanks in advance, Aaron -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Memtest mystery
I recently had a problem on an ancient Dell Inspiron 610 laptop (my wife's work machine). I solved the problem, but I had wondered at one point if the RAM was faulty. So I re-booted the machine with a Fedora-14/KDE Live CD in, and booted into memtest86+ . This threw up hundreds of errors. I took the memory module out, and tried the same thing with this module on another laptop running Fedora-14. This brought up a similar number of errors. (I didn't check if they were the same errors, but they seemed to be in roughly the same place on the module.) I tried the same test with other RAM on various machines, and they all passed the test normally. However, I found that there was a diagnostic test in the BIOS on the Dell Inspiron; at least the test was brought up on entering the BIOS by pressing F12. This procedure tested the memory (for about 30 minutes) and found no fault in it. (It also tested the CPU, cache memory, etc, taking about 90 minutes in all.) This has left me slightly puzzled. Can memtest86 actually throw up errors on good modules? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
RE: Memtest mystery
> Can memtest86 actually throw up errors on good modules? I run memtest86+ on every computer I service. Memory errors are rare, but they do happen and the computer tends to crash, etc. when they are happening. If memtest was finding errors on good modules, which are installed in computers that don't have crashing problems, I think I would be seeing that. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
RE: Memtest mystery
compdoc wrote: >> Can memtest86 actually throw up errors on good modules? > > > I run memtest86+ on every computer I service. Memory errors are rare, but > they do happen and the computer tends to crash, etc. when they are > happening. > > If memtest was finding errors on good modules, which are installed in > computers that don't have crashing problems, I think I would be seeing > that. OK, thanks. That is indeed exactly what I would have expected. I've only run this machine for a couple of hours since sorting out the problem, but it seems to be running OK. Also, Fedora-14/KDE Live CD seemed to run fine, as did Knoppix-6. Could this happen if there was faulty memory? I was wondering if memtest86+ could run at a faster speed than desired, or something like that? However, I'm following your experienced advice, and ordering a new memory module. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Frequent paging
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:57:35 -0700 Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi Fedorans, > > My workstation has been paging a lot lately. It's a fairly high-end > system, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.6 GHz (overclocked, originally it was > 3.0 GHz) and 2x2GB Corsair RAMs. > > lshw output: > *-memory > description: System Memory > physical id: 19 > slot: System board or motherboard > size: 4GiB >*-bank:0 > description: DIMM 800 MHz (1.2 ns) > physical id: 0 > slot: A0 > size: 2GiB > width: 64 bits > clock: 800MHz (1.2ns) >*-bank:2 > description: DIMM 800 MHz (1.2 ns) > physical id: 2 > slot: A2 > size: 2GiB > width: 64 bits > clock: 800MHz (1.2ns) > > and my swap is 6 Gigs. > > $ free -m > total used free sharedbuffers cached > Mem: 3961 3772188 0328 1129 > -/+ buffers/cache: 2315 1645 > Swap: 6143153 5990 > > > I used to be able to have uptimes of the order of a month without ever > using a single Kb of my swap. But lately I start paging from a few Mb to > several hundred Mb after about half a week. Whenever this happens, I > find multitasking becomes impossible, e.g. opening a pdf interferes with > music or video playback. > > I noticed a weak pattern, usually when I find my workstation is paging I > have a few pdfs open. Lately I have been working with a lot of pdfs and > most of these pdfs are about thousand page long documents (but only ~ > 20-30 Mb in file size). I keep these open for reference as I work on my > thesis. However closing evince doesn't help reduce the swap usage (at > least not within the next 15-20 minutes). > > Apart from these symptoms I also find my system has become generally > slow. Even opening the terminal or thunar (the XFCE file browser) takes > a few seconds. I am on 2.6.34.8-68.fc13.x86_64. Does any one have any > culprits in mind? > There were memory leaks in evince, I don't know if they got fixed. One problem I saw was, if you zoomed in then out then in, the memory foot print would increase. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Frequent paging
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:47:24 -0500 Yorvyk wrote: > On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 03:57:35 -0700 > Suvayu Ali wrote: > > > Hi Fedorans, > > > > My workstation has been paging a lot lately. It's a fairly high-end > > system, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.6 GHz (overclocked, originally it was > > 3.0 GHz) and 2x2GB Corsair RAMs. > > > > lshw output: > > *-memory > > description: System Memory > > physical id: 19 > > slot: System board or motherboard > > size: 4GiB > >*-bank:0 > > description: DIMM 800 MHz (1.2 ns) > > physical id: 0 > > slot: A0 > > size: 2GiB > > width: 64 bits > > clock: 800MHz (1.2ns) > >*-bank:2 > > description: DIMM 800 MHz (1.2 ns) > > physical id: 2 > > slot: A2 > > size: 2GiB > > width: 64 bits > > clock: 800MHz (1.2ns) > > > > and my swap is 6 Gigs. > > > > $ free -m > > total used free sharedbuffers cached > > Mem: 3961 3772188 0328 1129 > > -/+ buffers/cache: 2315 1645 > > Swap: 6143153 5990 > > > > > > I used to be able to have uptimes of the order of a month without ever > > using a single Kb of my swap. But lately I start paging from a few Mb to > > several hundred Mb after about half a week. Whenever this happens, I > > find multitasking becomes impossible, e.g. opening a pdf interferes with > > music or video playback. > > > > I noticed a weak pattern, usually when I find my workstation is paging I > > have a few pdfs open. Lately I have been working with a lot of pdfs and > > most of these pdfs are about thousand page long documents (but only ~ > > 20-30 Mb in file size). I keep these open for reference as I work on my > > thesis. However closing evince doesn't help reduce the swap usage (at > > least not within the next 15-20 minutes). > > > > Apart from these symptoms I also find my system has become generally > > slow. Even opening the terminal or thunar (the XFCE file browser) takes > > a few seconds. I am on 2.6.34.8-68.fc13.x86_64. Does any one have any > > culprits in mind? > > > There were memory leaks in evince, I don't know if they got fixed. > One problem I saw was, if you zoomed in then out then in, the memory foot > print would increase. Hi Suvayu, I agree that epdfview is not something that has a lot of features, but I have found it to be very lightweight and reasonably good for my needs. You could try that instead of evince: of course, it is not clear if that is causing or will solve your problem. Hope this helps! Good luck with your dissertation! Ranjan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Memtest mystery
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 03:38:10PM +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > compdoc wrote: > > >> Can memtest86 actually throw up errors on good modules? > > > > > > I run memtest86+ on every computer I service. Memory errors are rare, but > > they do happen and the computer tends to crash, etc. when they are > > happening. > > > > If memtest was finding errors on good modules, which are installed in > > computers that don't have crashing problems, I think I would be seeing > > that. > > OK, thanks. > That is indeed exactly what I would have expected. > > I've only run this machine for a couple of hours > since sorting out the problem, but it seems to be running OK. > > Also, Fedora-14/KDE Live CD seemed to run fine, as did Knoppix-6. > > Could this happen if there was faulty memory? Sure! It all depends on the nature of the error, and where in the address range the error falls. Memtest86 is a lot more thorough than the builtin diagnostics in most machines. I'd tend to trust it if it said there are flaws. > > I was wondering if memtest86+ could run at a faster speed than desired, > or something like that? > > However, I'm following your experienced advice, > and ordering a new memory module. > > -- > Timothy Murphy > e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net > tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 > s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- --- Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything offered to me as the result of an unsolicited e-mail message. Nor will I forward chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus warnings to large numbers of others. This is my contribution to the survival of the online community. --Roger Ebert, December, 1996 - The Boulder Pledge - -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Memtest mystery
I did have a server machine at work with a gazillion different banks of memory which memtest86+ constantly said had memory errors even though everything seemed to work fine. At some point, someone noticed that the memory wasn't plugged into the different banks in the recommended symmetric configuration and when we reconfigured the slots the memory was plugged into, the memtest86+ runs started working flawlessly. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
oovoo.com
Dear List, I was asked to assist connecting a Fedora linux system for video conferencing with oovoo.com. It is apparent that they support Mac and Windows. Does anyone have any experience in using the Mac installation for oovoo for Fedora? Can anyone make recommendations for connections that allow video conferencing with Fedora. Thanks much -- Greg Ennis PoMec Corporation www.PoMec.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: oovoo.com
On 13 March 2011 18:13, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > Dear List, > > I was asked to assist connecting a Fedora linux system for video > conferencing with oovoo.com. It is apparent that they support Mac and > Windows. > > Does anyone have any experience in using the Mac installation for oovoo > for Fedora? Can anyone make recommendations for connections that allow > video conferencing with Fedora. It appears that this is a compiled package. It is extremely unlikely that the Mac package will simply "run" on Linux. You may have better milage running the Windows version under Wine. -- Sam -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: oovoo.com
On 3/13/11 11:13 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > Dear List, > > I was asked to assist connecting a Fedora linux system for video > conferencing with oovoo.com. It is apparent that they support Mac and > Windows. > > Does anyone have any experience in using the Mac installation for oovoo > for Fedora? Mac programs do not run under Linux. Might I suggest using Wine for running the Windows version? There may be Linux compatible programs that support the video streaming capabilities of oovo.com. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Memtest mystery
Tom Horsley wrote: > I did have a server machine at work with a gazillion different > banks of memory which memtest86+ constantly said had memory errors > even though everything seemed to work fine. > > At some point, someone noticed that the memory wasn't plugged into > the different banks in the recommended symmetric configuration > and when we reconfigured the slots the memory was plugged into, > the memtest86+ runs started working flawlessly. OK, thanks for that. But I did take the module out, and put it in another laptop, and memtest86 still failed, and in much the same places. Also my wife had been having various troubles with the machine, which is why I suspected the RAM. Anyway, I have coughed up €18 for a new 1GB module, which hopefully will pass all the tests. (I said the machine was a Dell Inspiron, but I see on looking at it that it is actually a Latitude D610.) -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: oovoo.com
On 13 March 2011 18:13, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > Dear List, > > I was asked to assist connecting a Fedora linux system for video > conferencing with oovoo.com. It is apparent that they support Mac and > Windows. > > Does anyone have any experience in using the Mac installation for oovoo > for Fedora? Can anyone make recommendations for connections that allow > video conferencing with Fedora. It appears that this is a compiled package. It is extremely unlikely that the Mac package will simply "run" on Linux. You may have better milage running the Windows version under Wine. -- Sam -- Sam, I tried using the windows version with wine, but was not able to get past the login authentication of oovoo.com. Do you know of different video conference methods for Fedora, or will I have to break down and purchase an MS Windows machine. Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
ULatencyD in Fedora?
ULatencyD provides a script-able daemon to dynamically adjust Linux scheduling parameters and other aspects of the Linux kernel. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTAwNQ What is the proper way to install ULatencyD in Fedora and configure it? Has anybody done it already? Cheers, Valent. -- follow me - www.twitter.com/valentt & http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, wireless, scuba, linuxmce smart home, zwave ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Fedora/KDE contact lists - looking for advice:
I've been trying for some time (years in fact) to find a good way of storing email and phone contacts on a LAN-wide basis. I'm currently running OpenLDAP and dovecot/IMAP on my CentOS-5.5 server, and access this with KMail/KAddressBook/Kontact on my laptops. This works, but I don't find it entirely satisfactory, perhaps because I don't understand how to use it properly. Some of the unsatisfactory features of this setup are: When I run Kontact on my Fedora-14 laptop, under Address Books is listed Personal Contacts, but highlighting, and left- or right-clicking on this has no effect. There is a line at the top which says "Search" but putting anything in there has no effect. My LDAP server is listed when I click on File=>Import=>Import from LDAP server=>Configure LDAP Servers but clicking on OK appears to have no effect. The Kontact Help/Handbook is fairly useless, at least for my purpose, since it says that KAddressBook is the "KDE contact manager", but also says that there is no documentation for this. However, when I go to KMail=>New on the laptop and enter part of a name, it seems to find the name at once in the LDAP server. KMail=>Tools=>KAddressBook seems to bring up more or less the same window as Kontact, with the same lack of response to any input. Actually, even if Kontact worked reasonably well with OpenLDAP I would not be entirely satisfied, since I find the LDAP setup rather constrained, with a very rigid format for InetOrgPerson, which seems the standard entry type to use for contacts. Also, I've never found a way of getting mobile phone contact lists to combine (eg with Bluetooth) in any way with anything on the computer. But this must be an issue that many people have faced. How do you all keep your contacts available on different machines? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora/KDE contact lists - looking for advice:
On 03/13/2011 05:00 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > But this must be an issue that many people have faced. > How do you all keep your contacts available on different machines? > > One way is to use gmail contacts - they sync with phone (android is builtin and iphone works i believe) and with thunderbird on fedora using gcontactsync. Not 100% what you're looking for but it does work - and the phone sync is OTA automatic - just change or add contact and it shows up on the phone fairly quickly. g/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora/KDE contact lists - looking for advice:
On Sun, 2011-03-13 at 21:00 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I've been trying for some time (years in fact) > to find a good way of storing email and phone contacts > on a LAN-wide basis. > > I'm currently running OpenLDAP and dovecot/IMAP on my CentOS-5.5 server, > and access this with KMail/KAddressBook/Kontact on my laptops. > This works, but I don't find it entirely satisfactory, > perhaps because I don't understand how to use it properly. > > Some of the unsatisfactory features of this setup are: > When I run Kontact on my Fedora-14 laptop, > under Address Books is listed Personal Contacts, > but highlighting, and left- or right-clicking on this has no effect. > > There is a line at the top which says "Search" > but putting anything in there has no effect. > > My LDAP server is listed when I click on > File=>Import=>Import from LDAP server=>Configure LDAP Servers > but clicking on OK appears to have no effect. > > The Kontact Help/Handbook is fairly useless, at least for my purpose, > since it says that KAddressBook is the "KDE contact manager", > but also says that there is no documentation for this. > > However, when I go to KMail=>New on the laptop and enter part of a name, > it seems to find the name at once in the LDAP server. > > KMail=>Tools=>KAddressBook seems to bring up more or less the same window > as Kontact, with the same lack of response to any input. > > Actually, even if Kontact worked reasonably well with OpenLDAP > I would not be entirely satisfied, since I find the LDAP setup > rather constrained, with a very rigid format for InetOrgPerson, > which seems the standard entry type to use for contacts. > > Also, I've never found a way of getting mobile phone contact lists > to combine (eg with Bluetooth) in any way with anything on the computer. > > But this must be an issue that many people have faced. > How do you all keep your contacts available on different machines? LDAP is the way to go. An entry could conceivably have many different objectclasses and not just inetOrgPerson depending upon the schema you have enabled. Also, you don't actually 'import' an LDAP address book on each local computer because that would defeat its purpose, you would simply set up KAddressBook (i.e. Kontact) to use the LDAP just like it were a local database which would allow you to have read/write permissions (for some people anyway) which probably requires authentication. I have found KAddressBook quite a reasonable LDAP client application but to the uninitiated, it's painful because it doesn't generally provide useful errors (such as needing cn/givenName/sn attributes on new entries). Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora/KDE contact lists - looking for advice:
On 03/13/2011 05:15 PM, Craig White wrote: > Also, you don't actually 'import' an LDAP address book on each local > computer because that would defeat its purpose, you would simply set up > KAddressBook (i.e. Kontact) to use the LDAP just like it were a local > database which would allow you to have read/write permissions (for some > people anyway) which probably requires authentication. I have found > KAddressBook quite a reasonable LDAP client application but to the > uninitiated, it's painful because it doesn't generally provide useful > errors (such as needing cn/givenName/sn attributes on new entries). > Does kaddressbook (or evolution or that matter) write to the ldap database - or is it read only ? If read - what client do your users use to create addressbook entries ? g -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Kororaa 14 Beta2 released
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 16:54:00 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: > If anyone's interested, Beta2 has been released > (https://kororaa.org/download). > > This release includes several fixes, updates, as well as the following > major changes: > > * GNOME version – that’s right, now Kororaa comes with GNOME too! * [] > * LibreOffice replaces OpenOffice.org * [] My attempts to try this out (after having asked for it!) have been attended by great difficulty and annoyance, as Mark Twain said of learning German. But I have tried it, on an EeePC 701, and liked it. I don't use a word processor, though, and I've no more than heard of LibreOffice; so I gave the live DVD to my wife, who has written two or three books with OOo, and will pass on her reaction when I get it. Many than ks for your excellent efforts! -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Kororaa 14 Beta2 released
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Beartooth wrote: > > My attempts to try this out (after having asked for it!) have > been attended by great difficulty and annoyance, as Mark Twain said of > learning German. > > But I have tried it, on an EeePC 701, and liked it. I don't use a > word processor, though, and I've no more than heard of LibreOffice; so I > gave the live DVD to my wife, who has written two or three books with OOo, > and will pass on her reaction when I get it. > > Many than ks for your excellent efforts! Cool, thanks Beta3 is out now too, with the next to come in a few weeks, hopefully. -c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: oovoo.com
On 3/13/11 1:07 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > On 13 March 2011 18:13, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >> Dear List, >> >> I was asked to assist connecting a Fedora linux system for video >> conferencing with oovoo.com. It is apparent that they support Mac and >> Windows. >> >> Does anyone have any experience in using the Mac installation for oovoo >> for Fedora? Can anyone make recommendations for connections that allow >> video conferencing with Fedora. > It appears that this is a compiled package. It is extremely unlikely > that the Mac package will simply "run" on Linux. > > You may have better milage running the Windows version under Wine. > Gregory: Please do two things: One, strip off the signatures for those of us using the mailing list. Two, please run the Windows version from terminal using the command line. Instructions are at: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#run_from_terminal Please advise what happens after you attempt to login to oovoo.com Thank you. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: oovoo.com
On 13 March 2011 20:07, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > On 13 March 2011 18:13, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >> Does anyone have any experience in using the Mac installation for oovoo >> for Fedora? Can anyone make recommendations for connections that allow >> video conferencing with Fedora. > > It appears that this is a compiled package. It is extremely unlikely > that the Mac package will simply "run" on Linux. > > You may have better milage running the Windows version under Wine. > I tried using the windows version with wine, but was not able to get > past the login authentication of oovoo.com. > > Do you know of different video conference methods for Fedora, or will I > have to break down and purchase an MS Windows machine. I'm afraid that's not my area - I use Lotus Sametime, which is unfortunately proprietary. I know there must be several video conferencing solutions for Linux and perhaps a message to this list will elicit suggestions, but it is not my area I am afraid. -- Sam -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
size of root-doc is enormous
This package ( part of the 'root' package suite - which is inappropriately named given the special meaning of root on unix/linux) is 500 to 600 MiB. Really ? wow ... yum info root-doc: This package contains the automatically generated ROOT class : documentation. Curious - why is thing so large ? And if its automatically generated, can it be generated on the client instead of propogating thru mirrors? yum info root: Description : The ROOT system provides a set of object oriented frameworks with : all the functionality needed to handle and analyze large amounts : of data in a very efficient way. Having the data defined as a set : of objects, specialized storage methods are used to get direct : access to the separate attributes of the selected objects, without : having to touch the bulk of the data. Included are histogramming : methods in 1, 2 and 3 dimensions, curve fitting, function : evaluation, minimization, graphics and visualization classes to : allow the easy setup of an analysis system that can query and : process the data interactively or in batch mode. ... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: oovoo.com
On 3/13/11 1:07 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > On 13 March 2011 18:13, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >> Dear List, >> >> I was asked to assist connecting a Fedora linux system for video >> conferencing with oovoo.com. It is apparent that they support Mac and >> Windows. >> >> Does anyone have any experience in using the Mac installation for oovoo >> for Fedora? Can anyone make recommendations for connections that allow >> video conferencing with Fedora. > It appears that this is a compiled package. It is extremely unlikely > that the Mac package will simply "run" on Linux. > > You may have better milage running the Windows version under Wine. > Gregory: Please do two things: One, strip off the signatures for those of us using the mailing list. Two, please run the Windows version from terminal using the command line. Instructions are at: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#run_from_terminal Please advise what happens after you attempt to login to oovoo.com Thank you. James McKenzie -- James, Sorry about the signature... thought I had removed it. Thank you for your assistance I tried using wine from the command line in a terminal setting by getting in the directory : /home/user/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/ooVoo and then executing wine start ooVoo.exe This results in having the ooVoo login screen generated on the desktop, but when a login is attempted it fails. I have tested the login name and password on a Windows 7 machine and am able to gain access without difficulty. The ooVoo login screen also allows you to request a new account; when I tried to set up a new account using the terminal access as well as the gui access on the desktop both methods do not allow me to set up an account. The Windows 7 machine did allow me to set up an account. Any other ideas? Greg -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: oovoo.com
On 3/13/11 1:07 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: > On 13 March 2011 18:13, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: >> Dear List, >> >> I was asked to assist connecting a Fedora linux system for video >> conferencing with oovoo.com. It is apparent that they support Mac and >> Windows. >> >> Does anyone have any experience in using the Mac installation for oovoo >> for Fedora? Can anyone make recommendations for connections that allow >> video conferencing with Fedora. > It appears that this is a compiled package. It is extremely unlikely > that the Mac package will simply "run" on Linux. > > You may have better milage running the Windows version under Wine. > Gregory: Please do two things: One, strip off the signatures for those of us using the mailing list. Two, please run the Windows version from terminal using the command line. Instructions are at: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#run_from_terminal Please advise what happens after you attempt to login to oovoo.com Thank you. James McKenzie -- James, Sorry about the signature... thought I had removed it. Thank you for your assistance I tried using wine from the command line in a terminal setting by getting in the directory : /home/user/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/ooVoo and then executing wine start ooVoo.exe This results in having the ooVoo login screen generated on the desktop, but when a login is attempted it fails. I have tested the login name and password on a Windows 7 machine and am able to gain access without difficulty. The ooVoo login screen also allows you to request a new account; when I tried to set up a new account using the terminal access as well as the gui access on the desktop both methods do not allow me to set up an account. The Windows 7 machine did allow me to set up an account. Any other ideas? Greg - James, Some of the screen output when I attempt a login is the following. The output of the line "INTERNET OPTION" resulted right after the login attempt and failure. fixme:winsock:WSALookupServiceBeginW (0x328aa48 0x0ff1 0x328aa30) Stub! fixme:winsock:WSALookupServiceBeginW (0x328aa48 0x0ff1 0x328aa30) Stub! fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOption INTERNET_OPTION_PER_CONNECTION_OPTION stub fixme:wininet:INET_QueryOption Unhandled dwOption 4 fixme:secur32:schan_InitializeSecurityContextW Using hardcoded "NORMAL" priority GNUTLS ERROR: GnuTLS internal error. fixme:winsock:NtStatusToWSAError Status code 800a converted to DOS error code 2a4 fixme:winsock:NtStatusToWSAError Status code 800a converted to DOS error code 2a4 fixme:winsock:NtStatusToWSAError Status code 800a converted to DOS error code 2a4 fixme:winsock:WSALookupServiceBeginW (0x328aa48 0x0ff1 0x328aa30) Stub! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: size of root-doc is enormous
Hi, On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > This package ( part of the 'root' package suite - which is > inappropriately named given the special meaning of root on unix/linux) > Nothing can be done about that, it is the name of the project. http://root.cern.ch/drupal/ > is 500 to 600 MiB. > > Really ? wow ... > > yum info root-doc: > > This package contains the automatically generated ROOT class > : documentation. > > Curious - why is thing so large ? > > And if its automatically generated, can it be generated on the client > instead of propogating thru mirrors? > You can see the maintainer's comments on this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621812 -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Getting a USB driver added for a device ? (Hitec HPP-22, wine, USB, RC)
On 3/11/11 5:18 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I use the Hitec Aurora 9 (A9) transmitter for my remote control > vehicles. > > http://www.hitecrcd.com/products/aircraft-radios-receivers-and-accesories/aircraft/aurora9/aurora-9-2-4ghz.html > > This transmitter is part of a system of devices. One of the devices in > this system is the HPP-22, which is a USB device that allows a computer > to communicate with the A9 in order to load and save model information > as well as update the firmware in the transmitter and receivers. > > http://www.hitecrcd.com/products/aircraft-radios-receivers-and-accesories/telemetry/hpp-22.html > > Hitec publishes closed source Windows based software to enable a Windows > computer to communicate with the HPP-22. > > http://hitecrcd.co.kr/tester/hpp_22.htm > > After renaming the install file from "Install_hpp_22_V1.04(1).exe" to > "Install_hpp_22_V1.04.exe" in Dolphin, wine runs the installer just > fine, albeit with a few warning messages. > > Note: Bash doesn't allow () characters. Doing a right click on the file > name in Dolphin allowed me to change it. In hindsight this could have > been corrected when downloading the install fall. > > When I run the resulting HPP-22 program, it displays "HPP-22 is > disconnected." Ie its not finding the HPP-22 hardware connected to the > PC via a USB cable. > > dmesg states the following: > == > [263071.342137] usb 6-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and > address 4 > [263071.514255] usb 6-1: New USB device found, idVendor=1e1a, > idProduct=001f > [263071.514266] usb 6-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, > SerialNumber=3 > [263071.514273] usb 6-1: Product: HPP-22 > [263071.514278] usb 6-1: Manufacturer: HITECRCD Inc > [263071.514283] usb 6-1: SerialNumber: HPP-22-0 > [263071.524680] generic-usb 0003:1E1A:001F.0005: hiddev97,hidraw2: USB > HID v0.01 Device [HITECRCD Inc HPP-22] on usb-:00:1d.1-1/input0 > === > > lsusb returns this: > == > $ lsusb > Bus 007 Device 002: ID 046d:c521 Logitech, Inc. Cordless Mouse Receiver > Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 006 Device 004: ID 1e1a:001f > Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 003 Device 003: ID 03f0:171d Hewlett-Packard Wireless (Bluetooth + > WLAN) Interface [Integrated Module] > Bus 003 Device 002: ID 08ff:2580 AuthenTec, Inc. AES2501 Fingerprint > Sensor > Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub > Bus 002 Device 002: ID 064e:a101 Suyin Corp. Acer CrystalEye Webcam > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > Bus 001 Device 004: ID 07ca:a321 AVerMedia Technologies, Inc. > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub > === > > At this point I have been advised that the proper USB driver has not > been installed for the HPP-22 device. Who should I talk to to get this > done or get help to do it myself ? Wine does not support any USB devices, out of the box, other than storage devices. There is an effort to add USB support for 'other devices' but this requires downloading, patching and compiling Wine sources with a third party patch set. See http://wiki.winehq.org/USB for more information and where to find the patches (I just downloaded them today and will apply them for a sanity check against the latest Wine development code (git as of Friday.)) James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?
On 3/9/11 3:23 AM, Tim wrote: > Tim: >>> I can't say that I've ever seen any valid reason for filename case >>> sensitivity. > Ralf Corsepius: >> Well did you just have some coke or was it Coke, tIM? > Neither. And I've still not seen a valid reason for *wanting* a case > sensitive file system. In the beginning, there was the file system and it was good. Case sensitivity was added at the request of the then UNIX developers and users. That is how UNIX came to be case sensitive. Yes, it can be a PITA, but that is the way it is and probably will always be. Windows, which was built off of MS-DOS, which was built off of L-DOS, which was used on systems that only supported upper case file names, was built to be case insensitive. That is the way it is and will always be. > Yes, I've seen reasons why it came to be, and why it may be hard to use > a case insensitive file system. But it's still not an argument for > wanting it to be that way. > You are about twenty years to late to be arguing this. Decisions were made YEARS ago in Linux as to whether to follow the UNIX path or DOS path. Linus wanted Linux to be 'as close as possible' to his target system and it had case sensitivity, thus Linux does now. Every improved file system has had it and in some cases NTFS does (and you have to watch out for them.) Yum (which was based off of the Yellow Dog Unix system for Macs) was built on a case sensitive file system. Thus, to this day, it remains case sensitive. You can do things like new_file_name = lower(file with mixed and upper case) mv 'file with mixed and upper case' $new_file_name yum $new_file_name as a shell script and then use $1 for the file name or you can add the ability to prompt for the file name. I don't think yum developers are going to change its abilities until a very good case is made to have a case insensitive file system (and this must be based on more than feelings...) James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?
On 3/9/11 11:15 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 03/09/2011 02:23 AM, Tim wrote: >> i.e. After listing the directory, and seeing README.TEXT in there,*we* >> see readme.text, and would like the computer to accept us calling it >> that > Is that the "pregnant we?" I certainly don't expect Linux to treat > README.TEXT the same as readme.text and I doubt if most of the readers > of this list would agree with you. Here is a great example of why UNIX is case sensitive and why Linus wanted it that way. To make yum truly case insensitive would require a fully compliant case insensitive file system. Linux does not have that, nor do most UNIX variants. It is a personal argument whether or not it should and should remain that way. If you came from Windows, you ran a system that was case insensitive because of its background. Linux because it is a derived from UNIX has a case sensitivity. Fixing that will allow yum to do what is desired. Until that happens, shell scripting is your friend. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?
On 3/10/11 7:14 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Mike Williams > wrote: >> php-pear-Auth-radius.noarch >> php-pear-Auth-RADIUS.noarch >> >> Mike > Interesting. > > This should be fixed, IMHO. :) The potential for inadvertedly > installing the wrong package while meaning the other one is huge. > There shouldn´t be different packages with the same name and only > having different capitalization. Correct. These two packages do vastly different things and should be named as such. One of the two appears to be misnamed as well. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:07 AM, James McKenzie wrote: > > Yum (which was based off of the Yellow Dog Unix system for Macs) was Really? I thought it was Yellow Dog Linux for Power architecture (which Macs were at the time). > built on a case sensitive file system. Thus, to this day, it remains > case sensitive. You can do things like > new_file_name = lower(file with mixed and upper case) > mv 'file with mixed and upper case' $new_file_name > yum $new_file_name > In addition, at the core of ASCII and UTF-8 A != a. I'm sure it's easier to be case sensitive, else you need additional overhead. -c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?
On 3/13/11 5:18 PM, Chris Smart wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:07 AM, James McKenzie > wrote: >> Yum (which was based off of the Yellow Dog Unix system for Macs) was > Really? I thought it was Yellow Dog Linux for Power architecture > (which Macs were at the time). > You are correct here. The target for Yellow Dog was the M68K chipsets that were popular and replaced with the G3/G4/G5 chipsets. I don't know of many commercially viable M68K systems that were not built by Apple and had the Mac moniker on them. >> built on a case sensitive file system. Thus, to this day, it remains >> case sensitive. You can do things like >> new_file_name = lower(file with mixed and upper case) >> mv 'file with mixed and upper case' $new_file_name >> yum $new_file_name >> > In addition, at the core of ASCII and UTF-8 A != a. I'm sure it's > easier to be case sensitive, else you need additional overhead. > True, and this applies mostly to Western languages, with maybe Viet as an exception. The 'real' fun starts when you have a file in German with the double s character or an umlatted a, o or u and a file with the same but not containing the special characters or their Anglicized equivalents. James McKenzie > -c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Frequent paging
Hi, JB: I have tried using iotop before, I didn't see anything out of the ordinary. Ranjan: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:11:42 -0500 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > There were memory leaks in evince, I don't know if they got fixed. > > One problem I saw was, if you zoomed in then out then in, the > > memory foot print would increase. > > I agree that epdfview is not something that has a lot of features, but > I have found it to be very lightweight and reasonably good for my > needs. You could try that instead of evince: of course, it is not > clear if that is causing or will solve your problem. > I tried out epdfview. Seems workable except for one thing. I am rather accustomed to not needing to reload the pdf in evince when it changes on disk. Since I'm working on a constantly changing document, I need that rather frequently. I think I'll use auto-revert-mode with docview-mode in emacs for now. If evince is the real source of the paging problem this should make it apparent in a day or two. > Hope this helps! Good luck with your dissertation! > Thanks a lot. :) > Ranjan -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Any arguments for keeping Yum case-sensitive?
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:23 AM, James McKenzie wrote: > True, and this applies mostly to Western languages, with maybe Viet as > an exception. > > The 'real' fun starts when you have a file in German with the double s > character or an umlatted a, o or u and a file with the same but not > containing the special characters or their Anglicized equivalents. > Is that really a problem? Admittedly my encoding skills are not great, but AFAIK in UTF-8 those are just different set of bytes, so they shouldn't be confused. A lowercase 'umlaut a' would be something like: 1111 10100100 An uppercase 'umlaut A' would be something like: 1111 1100 Which is completely different to lowercase 'a' 0111 -c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
automatic menus for window managers
I am currently using a full desktop environment (Gnome) but am considering using instead a window manager. There are dozens of them around, so I have been exploring and comparing. I noticed that for many of the window managers that I install in Debian (examples: fluxbox, openbox, awesome) there is an application menu tree that can be easily accessed with the mouse from the desktop, and this tree has - as far as I can tell - the same applications in the Gnome menu, though usually organized differently. If I install the same window managers in Fedora I do not get the menu tree. I like the way things work in Debian because this means less work is needed in creating menus for some rarely used applications (for programs that I use often I don't mind spending some time to create some sort of launcher). I tried to understand how the window managers in Debian get the application menus. It seems that it all happens as result of a Debian package called "menu", which keeps the menus automagically up-to-date for the window managers that bother to look at them with tools such as "update-menus" and "install-menu". I looked through Fedora packages and I have not found anything equivalent, but maybe I missed it. Any ideas? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
PXE instillation of Fedora
Since these HP ProLiant DL150's dont have CD's, I need to do a PXE instillation from another Fedora box. Does anyone have a link to proper instructions on how to do this. I have looked at quite a few instructions but non that outline the Fedora files necessary to be put under /tftpboot on the server. Also it says on the ProLiant documentation that you only need tfpd and bootp and not full DHCP ? Any advice welcome, particularly if you have done a PXE instillation of Fedora. Many thanks in advance, Aaron -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: PXE instillation of Fedora
On 03/13/2011 09:36 PM, Aaron Gray wrote: > Since these HP ProLiant DL150's dont have CD's, I need to do a PXE > instillation from another Fedora box. > > Does anyone have a link to proper instructions on how to do this. I have > looked at quite a few instructions but non that outline the Fedora files > necessary to be put under /tftpboot on the server. > > Also it says on the ProLiant documentation that you only need tfpd and > bootp and not full DHCP ? > > Any advice welcome, particularly if you have done a PXE instillation of > Fedora. > > Many thanks in advance, > > Aaron > I wrote this a little while back, maybe it will help you? http://wiki.alteeve.com/index.php/Setting_Up_a_PXE_Server_in_Fedora -- Digimer E-Mail: digi...@alteeve.com AN!Whitepapers: http://alteeve.com Node Assassin: http://nodeassassin.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: PXE instillation of Fedora
On 03/13/2011 09:36 PM, Aaron Gray wrote: > Since these HP ProLiant DL150's dont have CD's, I need to do a PXE > instillation from another Fedora box. > > Does anyone have a link to proper instructions on how to do this. I have > looked at quite a few instructions but non that outline the Fedora files > necessary to be put under /tftpboot on the server. > > Also it says on the ProLiant documentation that you only need tfpd and > bootp and not full DHCP ? > > Any advice welcome, particularly if you have done a PXE instillation of > Fedora. > > Many thanks in advance, > > Aaron > Hey Aaron, You might not have to use PXE to do a remote install. I used to mount a copy of the install .iso file using loopback and then share it out using NFS. Then all you need to do is boot up the target system with a network install image, on a USB key, floppy disk, etc... When the installer asks for the location of the install media give it the network address of the .iso image on the NFS server. I had several different distributions set up on my FTP server. My friend would come over and plug into my network and install whatever flavor he wanted on his laptop that lacked a CD/DVD drive the same way you have no drive. -- °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Mark LaPierre Registerd Linux user No #267004 www.counter.li.org In a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today. ** To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it. To mess up an MS Windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ -- Signature shamelessly copied from: Jatin Khatri & geleem -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: PXE instillation of Fedora
On 03/13/2011 08:41 PM, Digimer wrote: > I wrote this a little while back, maybe it will help you? You should rewrite that and use cobbler instead of manually setting up tftp and pxelinux. It is much easier to maintain. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Frequent paging
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 19:37:30 -0500 Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi, > > JB: > > I have tried using iotop before, I didn't see anything out of the > ordinary. > > > Ranjan: > > On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:11:42 -0500 > Ranjan Maitra wrote: > > > > There were memory leaks in evince, I don't know if they got fixed. > > > One problem I saw was, if you zoomed in then out then in, the > > > memory foot print would increase. > > > > I agree that epdfview is not something that has a lot of features, but > > I have found it to be very lightweight and reasonably good for my > > needs. You could try that instead of evince: of course, it is not > > clear if that is causing or will solve your problem. > > > > I tried out epdfview. Seems workable except for one thing. I am rather > accustomed to not needing to reload the pdf in evince when it changes > on disk. Since I'm working on a constantly changing document, I need > that rather frequently. I think I'll use auto-revert-mode with > docview-mode in emacs for now. If evince is the real source of the > paging problem this should make it apparent in a day or two. i was not aware that evince has this capability now: I was used to using ctrl-r to reload the changed document. (this also works on epdfview). another alternative is xpdf whose biggest plus is that it does not use keys such as ctrl in the keybindings. however, it has some missing features such as the ability to customize printing, etc. i wish someone would take over epdfview from emma-soft and speed up its glacial pace of development. thanks, ranjan > > Hope this helps! Good luck with your dissertation! > > > > Thanks a lot. :) > > > Ranjan > > > -- > Suvayu > > Open source is the future. It sets us free. > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: automatic menus for window managers
On Mon, 2011-03-14 at 00:52 +, Piscium wrote: > I tried to understand how the window managers in Debian get the > application menus. It seems that it all happens as result of a Debian > package called "menu", which keeps the menus automagically up-to-date > for the window managers that bother to look at them with tools such as > "update-menus" and "install-menu". > > I looked through Fedora packages and I have not found anything > equivalent, but maybe I missed it. Any ideas? They parse the .desktop files (installed by packages into a standard location, and you can put your own custom ones in a standard location in your homespace). You can use the locate command to see where they come from. Any manager is free to do the same thing. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Frequent paging
On Sun, 2011-03-13 at 03:57 -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Lately I have been working with a lot of pdfs and most of these pdfs > are about thousand page long documents (but only ~ 20-30 Mb in file > size). For what it's worth, the filesize of files like PDFs and JPEGs isn't a real good indication of data size. They can, and do, contain compressed data which must be expanded to actually use it. The expanded size is *greatly* bigger than the compressed file size. The expanded size is what has to fit into memory. Either the program can expand the whole thing, when it opens, or just the portion of it that you're currently viewing. Expanding the lot uses a lot of memory (whether it's RAM or swap), only expanding the current bit means you have to wait for the next bit to decode as you scroll through. Which soon gets annoying when trying to find something in a big document. If you're continually dealing with large documents, maybe you want even more RAM. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
