Re: Computer transplant -
On 06/01/11 01:38, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 10:49 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> Not a heat issue. The case can't even close with the power supply I >> am using > That's not necessarily a reason to believe overheating isn't a problem. > > Generally, the fans in the computer case form an airflow across things > that need it when the case is shut. If the case is open, airflow takes > the easiest path, and hot items mightn't get enough of a breeze over > them for them to be adequately cooled. > > You can get the same situation when airflow is blocked by obstacles in > the case (plug in cards, ribbon cables, etc.). > > Though, this is usually only a problem with things that are on the > borderline of their heat tolerance. Things with (most likely, > inadequate) passive heatsinks. > Understood, but I did not want to get into a long dissertation on the equipment failure. It is wintertime in Virginia. The computer is shut down around 20:00 hours and turned on again around 04:00. It has about eight hours to attain room temperature, perhaps 18°C? Within two or three seconds of being switched on the failure is apparent, the screaming fan noise, little time for much overheating due to poor air flow, cabinet opened or closed. I grab a flashlight and crawl under the table in the prone position, pull a tiny fan connector and re-insert it and hope things get better, it has, and continues to run in that condition for about two days now, case open, overheating is not a problem, my 80 years are when it comes to working in that fashion. The problem was originally manifest with the case closed. The power supply I installed was newer/higher power but would not fit the cabinet cut out for the line cord connector so the case was left open to see if the power supply corrected the problem, it did for a while? The case is a strange design, a clam shell that appears to have been designed as a "desktop" model with the face re-oriented to make it a "tower" style. A bitch to work on, I cut my arm and bled profusely on the sharp edges! I will be glad to get rid of it. I hope that clarifies things. I do appreciate your comments. Bob -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:22:42 -0600, Aaron wrote: > On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 07:24 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:55:50 -0600, Aaron wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 22:00 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > > On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 13:02:30 -0600, Aaron wrote: > > > > > > > > > Well for the computer-center-extra discussion. See link. > > > > > > > > > > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=23 > > > > > > > > Do you mean control-center-extra? If so, watch this: > > > > > > > > $ rpm --query --obsoletes control-center > > > > control-center-extra < 1:2.30.3-3 > > > > $ cat /etc/fedora-release > > > > Fedora release 14 (Laughlin) > > > > $ > > > All you have shown is that control-center-extras is obsolete in F14. It > > > appeared in previous fedora versions as the link above discusses. > > > > It's been merged back, in particular the gnome-window-properties tool. > > > > Perhaps stop creating riddles then? You've linked a thread with the > > subject "i8253 Count Too High! & INIT: version 2.85 reloading" from 2004. > When you are right you are right. I got the link wrong. But you are > wrong. control-center-extra is not part of F14. According to Raul the > developers removed it. What I'm telling you is that the temporarily separated [sub-]package has been merged back into its control-center base package during F14 development. You want proof? Here's some history: Information for RPM control-center-extra-1:2.30.1-3.fc13.i686.rpm http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=2138356 Information for RPM control-center-extra-1:2.30.1-2.fc14.i686.rpm http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=1971152 No -extra package anymore and no "Obsoletes" tag yet: Information for build control-center-2.31.2-2.fc14 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=176146 "Obsoletes" tag added, but no gnome-window-properties tool anymore: Information for RPM control-center-1:2.31.2-3.fc14.i686.rpm http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=2002938 gnome-window-properties are back: Information for RPM control-center-1:2.31.6-1.fc14.i686.rpm http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=2108046 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: I'm asking help for my project - If you're interested get contacted with me
Sorry, I'm not perfect in english, and also I was really tired. So, again. I'll try to create an advertising spot with open source tools in Fedora theme. I already have permission to use NASA movie parts, and I have the theme music. I would like to ask you guys, that if you're interested - that create some short records about Fedora, and about the desktop, even I could imagine terminal shots (booting sequence, yum actions, building from source could be handy, etc.) too. The target is present the possibilities within Fedora. The base theme is an Shuttle launch, and right now I'm searching the fitting pieces, selecting, cutting them as it's needed. So, if you could and you would like to - please help me out to get it ready to FOSDEM. Thanks Zoltan PS: @roger: I have been there too Why? 2011/1/6 Mark LaPierre : > On 01/05/2011 07:20 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 22:30 +0100, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: >>> But I said: It will be an marketing AD clip about Fedora. >> Where exactly does it say that? >> >> poc >> >> PS Please don't top-post on this list. See the Guidelines. >> > > He said: > > "use their videos to our AD marketing clip...moveclip dedicated for Fedora" > > He's not a native english speaker so you have to invest a little time and > effort to understand what he's saying. > > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > -- PGP: 06853DF7 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: i386 or x86_64 tree?
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 22:23 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > How do I tell which update tree for Fedora 14 a system uses? > > I have maintained a repo tree for i386 locally for some time. I have > always had 'older' equipment. > > Well I just picked up an HP dc5000 and I noticed after the install, that > the upload profile stated it was an 686 platform (Intel P4 3.2Ghz). I > see i686 rpms on the system and there are i686 rpms in both the i386 and > x86_64 update trees. So I need to know if I now need to pull down the > x86_64 tree and point this new box to it instead of the i386 updates Don't let the 686 rpms fool ya in the 64bit tree. Those are there in case you need to install some 32bit packages on top of your 64bit install. As of right now, I don't use any 32bit packages, so mine's a total 64bit system, to include flash. So just depends on what you install, especially 3rd party to keep it 64bit. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best town on Earth!" -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Partitioning questions
Hi, I suggest You to try it command line. I have done it myself, for me it is easier. On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > >> IIRC, the original question had to do with a new install of F14, in > >> which case Anaconda is probably the tool the OP is expecting to use. I > > > > Yes, absolutely - there are also other benefits to sticking with what > anaconda > > can directly configure, e.g. the ability to script the entire setup via > > kickstart (OK you could do some fancy %pre scripting but the raid > directive is > > generally easier to use). > > Another benefit to sticking with anaconda would be upgrades -- how > would anaconda handle a disk layout that it couldn't parse because > unsupported partitioning/formatting was performed? > > Okay, I played around with the system a bit, and still can't get LVM > on top of RAID. I first created the RAID devices, then tried to layer > LVM on top of them, but it says that there's no free space. I also > tried the other way around (leaving the default LVM layout created by > anaconda) and creating RAID devices, but this also results in "no free > space" messages. > > Doesn't RAID get wrapped in LVM, much like disk partitions get wrapped in > RAID? > > If that is not the case, would you detail the steps I should follow in > anaconda (FC14, x86_64) to create a root (RAID5), /boot (RAID1), and > /home (RAID5) partitions on four disks with LVM? > > Thanks, > Alex > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > -- mv -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: I'm asking help for my project - If you're interested get contacted with me
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 23:31 -0500, Mark LaPierre wrote: > On 01/05/2011 07:20 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 22:30 +0100, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > >> But I said: It will be an marketing AD clip about Fedora. > > Where exactly does it say that? > > > > poc > > > > PS Please don't top-post on this list. See the Guidelines. > > > > He said: > > "use their videos to our AD marketing clip...moveclip dedicated for Fedora" Yes I saw that. However in context it was really not clear that this was the purpose of the project rather than some side issue. > He's not a native english speaker so you have to invest a little time and > effort to understand what he's saying. I do invest such time, but there is a point at which reaching the conclusion you reached means making assumptions about what he means. I merely tried to indicate the ambiguity so he would consider rephrasing it more clearly. Furthermore, I conjecture from contextual clues that the OP is Portugese or Brazilian. I'm pretty sure that if he had written the exact same text in Portugese the ambiguity would have remained. It's not a question of language but of clarity of expression. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: I'm asking help for my project - If you're interested get contacted with me
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 11:28 +0100, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > Sorry, I'm not perfect in english, and also I was really tired. So, again. > > I'll try to create an advertising spot with open source tools in > Fedora theme. I already have permission to use NASA movie parts, and I > have the theme music. I would like to ask you guys, that if you're > interested - that create some short records about Fedora, and about > the desktop, even I could imagine terminal shots (booting sequence, > yum actions, building from source could be handy, etc.) too. The > target is present the possibilities within Fedora. The base theme is > an Shuttle launch, and right now I'm searching the fitting pieces, > selecting, cutting them as it's needed. > > So, if you could and you would like to - please help me out to get it > ready to FOSDEM. That's much clearer, thank you. Sorry I'm not in a position to help the multimedia aspect of the project, which sounds worthwhile. However if you need help with English translation I'm available (I speak fluent Spanish and can read Portugese if that helps). By the way, you're still top-posting. Please don't do that. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Fedora x86_64 14 freeze up or reboot immediately, when running a guest in Virtualbox 3.2 or 4.0
Hello, Fedora x86_64 14 freeze up or reboot immediately, when running Virtualbox 3.2 or 4.0. I have installed the repo from Virtualbox. And now it's the same problem like this guy had: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=36406&start=15 CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor TK-53 Graphics: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] -- Benjamin Weißenfels Erkelenzdamm 63 10999 Berlin Deutschland Internet: www.pixeldrama.de E-Mail: b.weissenf...@google-mail.com Tel: 030/30882779 Mobil: 01522/1525957 Skype: pixeldrama Jabber: pixeldr...@jabber.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora x86_64 14 freeze up or reboot immediately, when running a guest in Virtualbox 3.2 or 4.0
On 01/06/2011 01:00 PM, Benjamin Weißenfels wrote: > Fedora x86_64 14 freeze up or reboot immediately, when running Virtualbox > 3.2 or 4.0. I have installed the repo from Virtualbox. And now it's the same > problem like this guy had: > http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=36406&start=15 > > CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor TK-53 > Graphics: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] Does 'clocksource=jiffies' work for you too? Andrew. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to get window focus to travwel with mouse under compiz
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 17:55 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Aaron Konstam writes: > > > On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 20:20 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >> Aaron Konstam writes: > >> > >> > On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 17:54 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > >> >> Aaron Konstam writes: > >> >> > >> >> > In F14 is you want to get your window focus to follow your mouse while > >> >> > using compiz this seems to work. > >> >> > Run Configuration editor. Then go to /app/mwetacity/general/focus_mode > >> >> > and change the value from click to mouse. > >> >> > > >> >> > Seems to make no sense bit it seems to do the job. > >> >> > >> >> Or, install the control-center package, and find this setting in > >> >> System→Windows > >> >> > >> >> > >> > Not if you are using compiz you won't. And you mean: > >> > System->Peferences-> Windows > >> > which gives you an error if you are running the compiz . > >> > >> Hmmm -- you may have to drop out of compiz into metacity, set this option, > >> then switch it back. But it does work in compiz. I don't recall ever > >> having > >> to twiddle config changes manually. In CompizConfig I have "Gnome > >> Compatibility" enabled -- that may be the trick to getting compiz to honor > >> this config setting. > > > > I have no CompizConfig on my machine. Where did you get yours? > > yum install ccsm > > On my machine compizconfig is installed by the rpm: libcompizconfig -- === A grammarian's life is always in tense. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora x86_64 14 freeze up or reboot immediately, when running a guest in Virtualbox 3.2 or 4.0
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 01/06/2011 01:00 PM, Benjamin Weißenfels wrote: > > > Fedora x86_64 14 freeze up or reboot immediately, when running > Virtualbox > > 3.2 or 4.0. I have installed the repo from Virtualbox. And now it's the > same > > problem like this guy had: > > http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=36406&start=15 > > > > CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor TK-53 > > Graphics: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series] > > Does 'clocksource=jiffies' work for you too? > > Andrew. > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > no, it doesn't work for me. I change d my menu.lst too: default=0 > timeout=0 > splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz > hiddenmenu > title Fedora (2.6.35.10-74.fc14.x86_64) > root (hd0,0) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.35.10-74.fc14.x86_64 ro > root=/dev/mapper/vg_benlaptop-lv_root rd_LVM_LV=vg_benlaptop/lv_root > rd_LVM_LV=vg_benlaptop/lv_swap rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 > SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=de *clocksource=jiffies > * rhgb quiet > initrd /initramfs-2.6.35.10-74.fc14.x86_64.img > title Fedora (2.6.35.6-45.fc14.x86_64) > root (hd0,0) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.35.6-45.fc14.x86_64 ro > root=/dev/mapper/vg_benlaptop-lv_root rd_LVM_LV=vg_benlaptop/lv_root > rd_LVM_LV=vg_benlaptop/lv_swap rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 > SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=de *clocksource=jiffies > * rhgb quiet > initrd /initramfs-2.6.35.6-45.fc14.x86_64.img But it didn't help. -- Benjamin Weißenfels Erkelenzdamm 63 10999 Berlin Deutschland Internet: www.pixeldrama.de E-Mail: b.weissenf...@google-mail.com Tel: 030/30882779 Mobil: 01522/1525957 Skype: pixeldrama Jabber: pixeldr...@jabber.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: CHROOT for SSH
Yes you're right kevin, it's a very good solution. But to use it, I have to put a lot of things in the home directory (bash, tty, ...) with a lot a different rights. Is there a document which lists the 'minimal' things to put to get the solution work ? BR Le 03/01/11 19:55, Kevin Fenzi a écrit : > On Mon, 03 Jan 2011 18:33:14 +0100 > Luc MAIGNAN wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I gave an SSH access to my server to somebody. But I want (and only >> for him) "chroot" him to its home. >> >> What is the easiest way to do this ? > man sshd_config > > and look at 'ChrootDirectory' and 'Match'. > > You should be able to Match that user or users or group and set > ChrootDirectory for them. > > kevin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: i386 or x86_64 tree?
On 01/05/2011 11:32 PM, Frank Cox wrote: > On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 22:23:35 -0500 > Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > >> How do I tell which update tree for Fedora 14 a system uses? >> > "uname -a" will tell you which architecture your kernel is compiled for. Thanks. This reported: i686 i386 So from this I ASSuME I use the i386 update tree... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
fedora 14 & compiz
Hello, I recently turned on the Compiz desktop effects and suspend stopped working. At least I think this is the correlation. The PC just hangs until I use the power switch. Has any one else observed this? uname -a: Linux rwells-f14 2.6.35.10-74.fc14.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Dec 23 16:04:50 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux machine is Lenovo X200 (Intel graphics) -- Roger Wells, P.E. SAIC 221 Third St Newport, RI 02840 401-847-4210 (voice) 401-849-1585 (fax) roger.k.we...@saic.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: fedora 14 & compiz
I have similar problem, when I close the lid, suspend is not working. Possibly the same bug. (I have Probook 4515s) Zoltan 2011/1/6 Roger K. Wells : > Hello, > > I recently turned on the Compiz desktop effects and suspend stopped > working. At least I think this is the correlation. The PC just hangs > until I use the power switch. Has any one else observed this? > uname -a: Linux rwells-f14 2.6.35.10-74.fc14.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Dec 23 > 16:04:50 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > machine is Lenovo X200 (Intel graphics) > > -- > Roger Wells, P.E. > SAIC > 221 Third St > Newport, RI 02840 > 401-847-4210 (voice) > 401-849-1585 (fax) > roger.k.we...@saic.com > > -- > users mailing list > users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > -- PGP: 06853DF7 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:55 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:22:42 -0600, Aaron wrote: > > > On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 07:24 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:55:50 -0600, Aaron wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 22:00 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 13:02:30 -0600, Aaron wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Well for the computer-center-extra discussion. See link. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=23 > > > > > > > > > > Do you mean control-center-extra? If so, watch this: > > > > > > > > > > $ rpm --query --obsoletes control-center > > > > > control-center-extra < 1:2.30.3-3 > > > > > $ cat /etc/fedora-release > > > > > Fedora release 14 (Laughlin) > > > > > $ > > > > All you have shown is that control-center-extras is obsolete in F14. It > > > > appeared in previous fedora versions as the link above discusses. > > > > > > It's been merged back, in particular the gnome-window-properties tool. > > > > . But you are > > wrong. control-center-extra is not part of F14. According to Raul the > > developers removed it. > > What I'm telling you is that the temporarily separated [sub-]package has > been merged back into its control-center base package during F14 > development. You want proof? Here's some history: > > Information for RPM control-center-extra-1:2.30.1-3.fc13.i686.rpm > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=2138356 > > Information for RPM control-center-extra-1:2.30.1-2.fc14.i686.rpm > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=1971152 > > No -extra package anymore and no "Obsoletes" tag yet: > Information for build control-center-2.31.2-2.fc14 > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=176146 > > "Obsoletes" tag added, but no gnome-window-properties tool anymore: > Information for RPM control-center-1:2.31.2-3.fc14.i686.rpm > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=2002938 > > gnome-window-properties are back: > Information for RPM control-center-1:2.31.6-1.fc14.i686.rpm > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=2108046 I think we are what could be called a semantic disagreement. There is not a control-center-extra rpm installable in F14. If you run : yum install control-center-extra yum responds with: Package 1:control-center-2.32.0-1.fc14.i686 already installed and latest version Nothing to do Which is consistent with an interpretation of the postings you sent me that the functionality of control-center-extra has been incorporated in the rpm control-center. Do you think it means something different? In any case you can't run System->Preferences->Windows on your machine if you have chosen to use compiz. So that the option to choose a window when you move the mouse over it, is not directly available when using compiz and that was really my point. -- === vacation, n.: A two-week binge of rest and relaxation so intense that it takes another 50 weeks of your restrained workaday life-style to recuperate. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: fedora 14 & compiz
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 15:59 +0100, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: > I have similar problem, when I close the lid, suspend is not working. > Possibly the same bug. (I have Probook 4515s) > > Zoltan > > 2011/1/6 Roger K. Wells : > > Hello, > > > > I recently turned on the Compiz desktop effects and suspend stopped > > working. At least I think this is the correlation. The PC just hangs > > until I use the power switch. Has any one else observed this? > > uname -a: Linux rwells-f14 2.6.35.10-74.fc14.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Dec 23 > > 16:04:50 UTC 2010 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > > > machine is Lenovo X200 (Intel graphics) > > It seems that this problem and the one I identified tells me that compiz is a work in progress. I guess I am required to add the admonition of not to top post. -- === If you have nothing to do, don't do it here. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: fedora 14 & compiz
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 09:17 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I guess I am required to add the admonition of not to top post. Giving the OP the benefit of the doubt (as a non-native English speaker) he may not understand what is meant by top-posting. Top-posting means replying to a quoted message *above* the quoted material instead of below it (or in some cases intermixed with it). It leads to a confusing mishmash of quotes replying to quotes, especially with long threads. People are free to do what they want in private conversations, and the corporate email culture in some companies encourages top-posting (plus some broken email clients such as Blackberries make it very difficult to avoid), but on Internet mailing lists it's widely frowned on, and this list explicitly discourages it in the Guidelines quoted in every single message posted to the list (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines) so please don't do it. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: i386 or x86_64 tree?
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:07:49 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > So from this I ASSuME I use the i386 update tree... Yes. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ www.melvilletheatre.com www.creekfm.com - FIFTY THOUSAND WATTS of POW WOW POWER! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ipv6 question
--- Tim wrote: > On Sun, 2011-01-02 at 17:40 -0500, Genes MailLists > wrote: > >How does one manage your internal ip6 network > so that an ISP change > > (which under NAT/ipv4 is irrelevant) - is > straightforward/clean to > > manage ? > > The simple answer is *DNS*. > > Only the [Kerberos/smartcard/etc-requiring enterprise > which requires 99.999 uptime] really care whether the > IP for example.com is the same this year as last > year. > Likewise for other domain names. This can pose more of a problem than the average LAN admin may appreciate... I may be replying prematurely, but I wouldn't be surprised if the end solution to ISP/IP changeover winds up having more to do with the first 64-bits of the address than the last 64-bits, as the naming scheme splits the two up between a MAC-derived definition and the ISP-defined scheme. (At least in the most recent RFCs I've bothered to read...) -- Get the new Internet Explorer 8 optimized for Yahoo! JAPAN http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/ie8/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Partitioning questions
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 13:19 +0200, Marius Vaitiekunas wrote: > Hi, > > I suggest You to try it command line. I have done it myself, for me it is > easier. (1) Please don't top post. (2) Command line is possible, but I don't find it easier. It kind of goes against the principle we've been following in the rest of the thread of using the Anaconda tools. (3) Back to the bottom for my comment on the previous post ---+ | | \|/ V > > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Alex wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > >> IIRC, the original question had to do with a new install of F14, in > > >> which case Anaconda is probably the tool the OP is expecting to use. I > > > > > > Yes, absolutely - there are also other benefits to sticking with what > > anaconda > > > can directly configure, e.g. the ability to script the entire setup via > > > kickstart (OK you could do some fancy %pre scripting but the raid > > directive is > > > generally easier to use). > > > > Another benefit to sticking with anaconda would be upgrades -- how > > would anaconda handle a disk layout that it couldn't parse because > > unsupported partitioning/formatting was performed? > > > > Okay, I played around with the system a bit, and still can't get LVM > > on top of RAID. I first created the RAID devices, then tried to layer > > LVM on top of them, but it says that there's no free space. I also > > tried the other way around (leaving the default LVM layout created by > > anaconda) and creating RAID devices, but this also results in "no free > > space" messages. > > > > Doesn't RAID get wrapped in LVM, much like disk partitions get wrapped in > > RAID? > > > > If that is not the case, would you detail the steps I should follow in > > anaconda (FC14, x86_64) to create a root (RAID5), /boot (RAID1), and > > /home (RAID5) partitions on four disks with LVM? (1) Create a bank of RAID partitions on your disks. (2) Create the RAID device from the partitions. (3) Create the LVM physical volume on the RAID device. (4) Create the LVM volume group on the physical volume. (5) Create the various logical volumes in the volume group. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: fedora 14 & compiz
On 01/06/2011 10:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 09:17 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> I guess I am required to add the admonition of not to top post. > Giving the OP the benefit of the doubt (as a non-native English speaker) > he may not understand what is meant by top-posting. > how could the OP (Original Poster) top post? His is the only input at that point, top and bottom. And he is a native English speaker. I think you meant the first responder, not OP? rkw > Top-posting means replying to a quoted message *above* the quoted > material instead of below it (or in some cases intermixed with it). It > leads to a confusing mishmash of quotes replying to quotes, especially > with long threads. People are free to do what they want in private > conversations, and the corporate email culture in some companies > encourages top-posting (plus some broken email clients such as > Blackberries make it very difficult to avoid), but on Internet mailing > lists it's widely frowned on, and this list explicitly discourages it in > the Guidelines quoted in every single message posted to the list > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines) so please don't > do it. > > poc > -- Roger Wells, P.E. SAIC 221 Third St Newport, RI 02840 401-847-4210 (voice) 401-849-1585 (fax) roger.k.we...@saic.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [389-users] Cannot login as cn=Directory Manager
On 01/06/2011 06:38 AM, harry.dev...@faa.gov wrote:
I got the repo setup and installed the latest version, but when I ran
setup-ds-admin.pl, there was some contention with what I already had
installed and failed.
What exactly was the contention?
So I did a "yum remove" on everything,
You have to run remove-ds-admin.pl -y -f first or it will leave files
around.
then reinstalled from scratch ("yum install 389-ds", etc.). Now when
I run setup-ds-admin.pl, it fails when it tries to setup the server
with the following error:
Could not copy file '/etc/dirsrv/config/certmap.conf' to
'/etc/dirsrv/slapd-localhost/certmap.conf'. Error: No such file or
directory
Error: Could not create directory server instance 'localhost'.
Exiting . . .
Any ideas?
Harry
Harry Devine
Common ARTS Software Development
AJT-144
(609)485-4218
harry.dev...@faa.gov
From: Rich Megginson
To: Harry Devine/ACT/f...@faa
Cc: 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Date: 01/05/2011 03:45 PM
Subject:Re: [389-users] Cannot login as cn=Directory Manager
On 01/05/2011 11:25 AM, _harry.dev...@faa.gov_
wrote:
I tried to upgrade, but yum tells me that there are no packages marked
for update. I did see that I had the dirsrv.repo file renamed so it
wouldn't be used, so I renamed it back and tried the "yum upgrade"
again, and got the same thing. The relevant contents of my
dirsrv.repo file are:
[dirsrv]
name=389 Directory Server - 6 - $basearch
baseurl=_http://port389.org/yum/dirsrv/fedora/6/$basearch/RPMS_
I assume this repo isn't correct? I think I downloaded it from that
CentOS link I included in my last email.
We've been using EPEL for a couple of years now - that repo is not
used any more._
__http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Download_
Thanks,
Harry
Harry Devine
Common ARTS Software Development
AJT-144
(609)485-4218_
__harry.dev...@faa.gov_
From: Rich Megginson __
To: Harry Devine/ACT/f...@faa
Cc: _389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org_
Date: 01/05/2011 11:57 AM
Subject:Re: [389-users] Cannot login as cn=Directory Manager
On 01/05/2011 09:30 AM, _harry.dev...@faa.gov_
wrote:
Yep, it appears to just have stopped working. I know that I had some
similar issues back in October when I first installed it, but I turned
off the firewall on this PC and all was good. I verified that I still
have the firewall off. I'm running this on an old laptop that we have
here at work which is running CentOS 5.4, and isn't connected to the
network at all. Just for evaluation and familiarization purposes at
this point.
Here's the versions that I could get:
389-console: 1.1.3
389-ds-base: 1.2.2
389-admin: 1.1.8
idm-console-framework: 1.1.3
389-adminutil: 1.1.8
Everything was (I assume) installed at once when I did the initial
installation following the instructions I found at
_http://www.linuxmail.info/389-directory-server-setup-howto-centos-5/_.
I suggest upgrading to the latest 1.2.7 if only to make it easier to
support.
Lastly, nothing is in the directory server access log around 10:41:25.
Just that one line that said "GET /admin-serv/authenticate HTTP/1.0"
at 10:45:45.
That's the admin server log - the directory server access log is in
/var/log/dirsrv/slapd-yourinstancename/access
Thanks!
Harry
Harry Devine
Common ARTS Software Development
AJT-144
(609)485-4218_
__harry.dev...@faa.gov_
From: Rich Megginson __
To: Harry Devine/ACT/f...@faa
Cc: _389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org_
Date: 01/05/2011 11:18 AM
Subject:Re: [389-users] Cannot login as cn=Directory Manager
On 01/05/2011 08:40 AM, _harry.dev...@faa.gov_
wrote:
How do I tell what the other versions are?
rpm -qi 389-console 389-ds-base 389-admin idm-console-framework
389-adminutil
I haven't upgraded or anything, so its the same version/installation
that I initially did a few months ago.
So it just stopped working, with no explanation, and nothing has changed?
Should I upgrade? Is there a bug that's fixed in a newer version that
could be causing what I'm seeing?
The /var/log/dirsrv/admin-serv/error log shows:
[Wed Jan 05 10:40:45 2011] [notice] [client 127.0.0.1]
admserv_host_ip_check: ap_get_remote_host could not resolve 127.0.0.1
[Wed Jan 05 10:40:45 2011] [notice] [client 127.0.0.1]
admserv_host_ip_check: host [localhost.localdomain] did not match
pattern [*.test.com] -will scan aliases
[Wed Jan 05 10:40:45 2011] [notice] [client 127.0.0.1]
admserv_host_ip_check: ho
Re: fedora 14 & compiz
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:47 -0500, Roger K. Wells wrote: > On 01/06/2011 10:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 09:17 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > >> I guess I am required to add the admonition of not to top post. > > Giving the OP the benefit of the doubt (as a non-native English > speaker) > > he may not understand what is meant by top-posting. > > > how could the OP (Original Poster) top post? His is the only input > at > that point, top and bottom. > And he is a native English speaker. I think you meant the first > responder, not OP? Quite right. Sorry about that. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:12:08 -0600, Aaron wrote: > > What I'm telling you is that the temporarily separated [sub-]package has > > been merged back into its control-center base package during F14 > > development. You want proof? Here's some history: > > > > Information for RPM control-center-extra-1:2.30.1-3.fc13.i686.rpm > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=2138356 > > > > Information for RPM control-center-extra-1:2.30.1-2.fc14.i686.rpm > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=1971152 > > > > No -extra package anymore and no "Obsoletes" tag yet: > > Information for build control-center-2.31.2-2.fc14 > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=176146 > > > > "Obsoletes" tag added, but no gnome-window-properties tool anymore: > > Information for RPM control-center-1:2.31.2-3.fc14.i686.rpm > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=2002938 > > > > gnome-window-properties are back: > > Information for RPM control-center-1:2.31.6-1.fc14.i686.rpm > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=2108046 > > I think we are what could be called a semantic disagreement. Are we? I don't think so. > There is not a control-center-extra rpm installable in F14. Correct. That's what the RPM "Obsoletes" tag shows as I've demonstrated. In F14, package control-center obsoletes package control-center-extra. In other words, it replaces the control-center-extra package. The RPM semantics are clear. One package replaces another if it provides exactly the same stuff or similar stuff that is supposed to replace the previous functionality. > If you run : yum install control-center-extra > > yum responds with: > Package 1:control-center-2.32.0-1.fc14.i686 already installed and latest > version > Nothing to do > > Which is consistent with an interpretation of the postings you sent me > that the functionality of control-center-extra has been incorporated in > the rpm control-center. > > Do you think it means something different? > > In any case you can't run System->Preferences->Windows on your machine > if you have chosen to use compiz. Well, you can run it, but it complains with an error dialog. > So that the option to choose a window > when you move the mouse over it, is not directly available when using > compiz and that was really my point. In _this_ thread and with this subject line? | From: Aaron Konstam akonstam sbcglobal net | Subject: computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14 | Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 13:02:30 -0600 | | Well for the computer-center-extra discussion. See link. | | http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=23 A bad link and no reference to any other "discussion". Only temporarily one either had to install the separate control-center-extra package _or_ (during the short period that the extra package was not available at all) use gconftool to alter the window preferences. So, what are _you_ trying to point out? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora x86_64 14 freeze up or reboot immediately, when running a guest in Virtualbox 3.2 or 4.0
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 02:00:00PM +0100, Benjamin Wei?enfels wrote: >Hello, >Fedora x86_64 14 *freeze up or reboot immediately, when running Virtualbox >3.2 or 4.0.*I have installed the repo from Virtualbox. And now it's the >same problem like this guy >had:*[1]http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=36406&start=15 >CPU:*AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual-Core Processor TK-53 >Graphics:**ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]* Look at this: http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/7908 I've seen the same problem with openSUSE 11.3 with VB4.0. -- Matt Domsch Technology Strategist Dell | Office of the CTO -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: fedora 14 & compiz
On 01/06/2011 11:28 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Thursday 06 January 2011 15:17:10 Aaron Konstam wrote: >> On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 15:59 +0100, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: I recently turned on the Compiz desktop effects and suspend stopped working. At least I think this is the correlation. The PC just hangs until I use the power switch. Has any one else observed this? machine is Lenovo X200 (Intel graphics) >>> I have similar problem, when I close the lid, suspend is not working. >>> Possibly the same bug. (I have Probook 4515s) >> It seems that this problem and the one I identified tells me that compiz >> is a work in progress. > I have a Fujitsu Siemens U9200 (also with intel graphics), and suspend works > as expected, compiz/emerald under KDE. > > I would guess this is a Gnome issue rather than compiz. Or maybe that > integration of one into the other... You guys didn't indicate what desktop > environment are you using with compiz. > > You also didn't specify the window decorator (although I doubt that it would > have anything to do with suspend). > OP here. My desktop is Gnome. Without Compiz suspend generally works well. It fails occasionally, probably once in ten to fifteen suspend's. With Compiz failure is at this point guaranteed. No problem with KDE is quite interesting. I have been thinking of going that route for some time. Thanks for the information. rkw > While I agree that compiz is being heavily developed and evolves rapidly, I've > been using it systematically since F9, and I am yet to encounter my first > compiz bug. Granted, I'm using only a limited set of its features that I'm > interested in, but still... ;-) > > HTH, :-) > Marko > -- Roger Wells, P.E. SAIC 221 Third St Newport, RI 02840 401-847-4210 (voice) 401-849-1585 (fax) roger.k.we...@saic.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: I'm asking help for my project - If you're interested get contacted with me
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 16:10 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Thursday 06 January 2011 11:39:13 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Furthermore, I conjecture from contextual clues that the OP is Portugese > > or Brazilian. I'm pretty sure that if he had written the exact same text > > in Portugese the ambiguity would have remained. It's not a question of > > language but of clarity of expression. > > I'm curious, on what exactly did you base that conjecture about OP's > nationality? AFAICT, Zoltan Hoppar is more likely to be a Hungarian name than > a Portugese one. He mentions a Brazilian musician and cc's the message to a Portugese address. > Also, after living in Lisbon for two years now, my experience is that > virtually *all* Portugese people --- of those who speak English at all --- > speak it in a grammatically very correct way, without any noticable mistakes. > The same goes for Brasilians as well, although I admit I have managed to talk > only with a modest number of them, 10-15 or so. I said nothing about grammar. In fact my point was precisely that the issue is not one of language but of clarity of expression. Plenty of native English speakers on this list and elsewhere seem unable to state clearly what they mean, but that's getting somewhat OT. > OTOH, Spanish folks seem to fight with English much more, with noticable > errors > in both grammar and pronounciation. ;-) At least that's my experience. I live in a Spanish-speaking country so I would have to agree with that, though with exceptions of course. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Compiling Games Program
Fedora 14 / Kde BSD-games-2.16 GNUmakefile:1220: wump/wump.d: No such file or directory ./mkdep wump/wump.c wump/wump.d gcc -g -O2 -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings-Iinclude -Iwump ./mkdep worms/worms.c worms/worms.d gcc -g -O2 -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings-Iinclude -Iworms worms/worms.c:65:20: fatal error: curses.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. make: *** [worms/worms.d] Error 1 What is it missing ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Compiling Games Program
Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 à 12:40 -0500, Jim a écrit : > Fedora 14 / Kde > BSD-games-2.16 > > GNUmakefile:1220: wump/wump.d: No such file or directory > ./mkdep wump/wump.c wump/wump.d gcc -g -O2 -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wcast-qual > -Wwrite-strings-Iinclude -Iwump > ./mkdep worms/worms.c worms/worms.d gcc -g -O2 -Wall -W > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align > -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings-Iinclude -Iworms > worms/worms.c:65:20: fatal error: curses.h: No such file or directory > compilation terminated. > make: *** [worms/worms.d] Error 1 > > > > What is it missing ? Hi, why compiling bsd-games? It is available in the Fedora repos, in their latest version (2.17). (anyway, it seems ncurses-devel is missing) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
FIXED Compiling Games Program
On 01/06/2011 12:40 PM, Jim wrote: > Fedora 14 / Kde > BSD-games-2.16 > > GNUmakefile:1220: wump/wump.d: No such file or directory > ./mkdep wump/wump.c wump/wump.d gcc -g -O2 -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes > -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wcast-qual > -Wwrite-strings-Iinclude -Iwump > ./mkdep worms/worms.c worms/worms.d gcc -g -O2 -Wall -W > -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align > -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings-Iinclude -Iworms > worms/worms.c:65:20: fatal error: curses.h: No such file or directory > compilation terminated. > make: *** [worms/worms.d] Error 1 > > > > What is it missing ? Sorry guys, this bsd-games program was on my Sister's fedora box , where she somehow downloaded a bsd-games.tar.gz and she has no ideal how to compile it, She said she didn't remember how she install it, and it was blowing my mind as to how to got it installed. So I tried to compile it - ERRORS. So the little birdie told me to look in the Fedora repo and Wa-La there it was. Thanks anyhow. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ipv6 question
On Wednesday, January 05, 2011 07:51:19 pm Michael H. Warfield wrote: > On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 17:26 -0500, Lamar Owen wrote: > > I refer in particular to Cisco IOS NAT, IOS 12.4(23) mainline on a > > 7206/NPE-G1, using NAT pools and overloading. Incoming packets > > addressed to the outside interface that don't match the flows that the > > router knows about get dropped. > What you say is true but is equally true if you retain the stateful > firewall at the heart of the NAT engine and eliminate the NAT. The Cisco NAT is by default stateless; you have to specifically configure stateful NAT (on platforms that support it, and if your IOS feature set has that feature), but that mostly just gets you HSRP resilience for NAT; the packet translation itself is stateless (and hardware accelerated on some platforms, especially those with PXF which can do the IP header rewrites at wire speed). 'Stateful Firewalling' in Cisco-land is 'packet inspection' or even deep packet inspection, and is an additional feature set (and an additional cost for the IOS image), but images which cannot do stateful inspection can do NAT overload. Stateful firewalling in that context is also referred to as CBAC (Context-based Access Control). This inspection is a control-plane activity that writes ACLs, whereas NAT happens in the data (forwarding) plane, as a separate step from the ACL application (also in the forwarding plane). > The NAT > is not what's giving you this protection. It's the stateful nature of > THAT particular NAT which is the same as as a linear stateful firewall. > No difference. And other forms of NAT do not enjoy this. [snip valid NAT config that is set up to not provide that benefit] > NAT, in and of itself, is not providing the security. It's the state > engine at the heart of most (but not all) NAT devices and all stateful > firewalls. It's not the NAT, it's the firewall. NAT in cisco IOS is stateless unless certain features are turned on. The forwarding plane as part of the switching process performs the header translation (if one exists) and then routes; if there is no destination for the route it's blackholed, or hairpinned (depending on configuration). That is, given the NAT translation table snippet: tcp 10.10.10.10:52650 192.168.1.118:52650 74.125.67.99:8074.125.67.99:80 tcp 10.10.10.10:1769 192.168.1.166:1769 74.125.67.99:8074.125.67.99:80 And assuming no other translations are in the table, 74.125.67.99 could scan 10.10.10.10 all it wants; only packets to ports 52650 and 1769 will get statelessly translated (bidirectionally; the return packets also get translated for a tcp translation) to the respective addresses on the inside, and only to those ports; all other packets to that 10.10.10.10 address will be left untranslated and routed to the interface with 10.10.10.10 on its subnet. That could be a Null device for blackholing purposes, or it could be a honeynet, or it could even be a real host. Please see the Cisco document entitled 'NAT Order of Operation' (the direct link is long, and can change at seemingly random times for some reason) for more detail and pointers to how NAT works in IOS. The above example table is part of the following example IOS NAT config (both derived from what I have here, with addresses changed): ip nat pool metro-e 10.10.10.1 10.10.10.13 netmask 255.255.255.240 ip nat inside source list 1 pool metro-e mapping-id 10 overload This is not firewalling (nothing is blocked by the NAT itself; but only what's in the table gets translated), and is not stateful. The addresses that get added to the table have an associated access-list, but that's just a convenient way to list addresses; a route-map is also a possible source of addresses for the NAT operation (ip nat inside source route-map . ). And I realize that I'm describing what some call port address translation (PAT) or even as NAT-PT (network address translation - port translation), but it's all configured in the common NAT engine. NAT is a far simpler operation than stateful firewalling; packet inspection to overcome some of the broken protocols that are NAT-hostile brings in the stateful firewall engine that makes things like CBAC possible. NAT only has to deal with address and port number translation in the IP header, and, as mentioned, can be done in pattern matching hardware like Cisco's PXF. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Compiling Games Program
On 01/06/2011 12:49 PM, Mohamed El Morabity wrote: > Le jeudi 06 janvier 2011 à 12:40 -0500, Jim a écrit : >> Fedora 14 / Kde >> BSD-games-2.16 >> >> GNUmakefile:1220: wump/wump.d: No such file or directory >> ./mkdep wump/wump.c wump/wump.d gcc -g -O2 -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes >> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wcast-qual >> -Wwrite-strings-Iinclude -Iwump >> ./mkdep worms/worms.c worms/worms.d gcc -g -O2 -Wall -W >> -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align >> -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings-Iinclude -Iworms >> worms/worms.c:65:20: fatal error: curses.h: No such file or directory >> compilation terminated. >> make: *** [worms/worms.d] Error 1 >> >> >> >> What is it missing ? > Hi, > > why compiling bsd-games? It is available in the Fedora repos, in their > latest version (2.17). > > (anyway, it seems ncurses-devel is missing) > I installed the bsd-games without any errors from yum, it shows the the game is installed, Butt !!! the games don't show up in the Menu > Games , where are they hiding them ?? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: fedora 14 & compiz
On 01/06/2011 06:29 AM, Roger K. Wells wrote: > I recently turned on the Compiz desktop effects and suspend stopped > working. At least I think this is the correlation. I find it hard to understand how the two could be related, but You Never Know. However, it's easy to find out for sure: turn them off and see if it helps. If not, it was just a coincidence. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: fedora 14 & compiz
On 01/06/2011 07:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > People are free to do what they want in private > conversations, and the corporate email culture in some companies > encourages top-posting A friend of mine and I came up with a good reason for this once: standard filing practice (for dead-tree files) is to put the most recent item at the front so that everything is in reverse-chronological order. Once you get used to that, top posting becomes the natural way to do things. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Compiling Games Program
Jim comcast.net> writes: > I installed the bsd-games without any errors from yum, it shows the the > game is installed, Butt !!! the games don't show up in the Menu > > Games , where are they hiding them ?? They're all text-based (run in a terminal). "rpm -qi bsd-games" lists most of them, and "rpm -qd bsd-games" lets you see the names of the associated man pages. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: I'm asking help for my project - If you're interested get contacted with me
On 01/06/2011 09:26 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Plenty of > native English speakers on this list and elsewhere seem unable to state > clearly what they mean, but that's getting somewhat OT. Yes. Not only was Henry Higgens right, his complaint is getting truer by the year. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FIXED Compiling Games Program
On 01/06/2011 09:59 AM, Jim wrote: > So the little birdie told me to look in the Fedora repo and Wa-La If you're going to use a french word, spell it right: viola! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Compiling Games Program
On 01/06/2011 10:41 AM, Andre Robatino wrote: > They're all text-based (run in a terminal). "rpm -qi bsd-games" lists most of > them, and "rpm -qd bsd-games" lets you see the names of the associated man > pages. Just out of curiosity, does that include the little adventure game based on the FRP Paranoia? If so, I heartily recommend it. It's deviously twisted, just like the game it's based on. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: [389-users] Can't access auto.master directory entries in console
(2011年01月06日 09:31), Orion Poplawski wrote: > On 01/05/2011 02:10 PM, Noriko Hosoi wrote: >> I might have missed something in the discussion, but even if >> numsubordinates >> is indexed only with presence: >> >> # dbscan -f numsubordinates.db4 -n -r >> + 3 >> 1 3 4 >> >> the range search should return the expected result: >> >> $ ldapsearch [...] -b "dc=example,dc=com" >> "*(&(numsubordinates=*)(numsubordinates>=1))*" numsubordinates entryid >> dn: dc=example,dc=com >> numsubordinates: 4 >> entryid: 1 >> >> dn: ou=Groups,dc=example,dc=com >> numsubordinates: 4 >> entryid: 3 >> >> dn: ou=People,dc=example,dc=com >> numsubordinates: 2 >> entryid: 4 >> > > Perhaps the index got corrupted then some how. I've updated the bug > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=667488 > > with some further thoughts about why db2index fails with numsubordinates. > > Is there any other way to recreate the index? As it stands now, it is > completely broken. Could you try exporting the backend into an ldif file and importing it back? # cd /usr/lib[64]/dirsrv/slapd-ID # ./db2ldif -n If the corrupted index is for o=netscaperoot, is netscaperoot. The command returns the exported ldif file path (assuming it is /path/to/the/exported/ldif/file) # ./ldif2db -n -i /path/to/the/exported/ldif/file # ./start-slapd -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: FIXED Compiling Games Program
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:45 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/06/2011 09:59 AM, Jim wrote: > > So the little birdie told me to look in the Fedora repo and Wa-La > > If you're going to use a french word, spell it right: viola! I presume you mean French and voilà. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: fedora 14 & compiz
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:39 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/06/2011 07:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > People are free to do what they want in private > > conversations, and the corporate email culture in some companies > > encourages top-posting > > A friend of mine and I came up with a good reason for this once: > standard filing practice (for dead-tree files) is to put the most recent > item at the front so that everything is in reverse-chronological order. > Once you get used to that, top posting becomes the natural way to do > things. The inevitable concomitant of top-posting is that people never trim the quoted material. Once you understand the concept of an archive, it no longer looks like such a good idea. One would think that office workers wouldn't have trouble with this ... poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: I'm asking help for my project - If you're interested get contacted with me
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:44 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/06/2011 09:26 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Plenty of > > native English speakers on this list and elsewhere seem unable to state > > clearly what they mean, but that's getting somewhat OT. > > Yes. Not only was Henry Higgens right, his complaint is getting truer > by the year. So was Henry Higgins ... poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FIXED Compiling Games Program
On 01/06/2011 01:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/06/2011 09:59 AM, Jim wrote: >> So the little birdie told me to look in the Fedora repo and Wa-La > If you're going to use a french word, spell it right: viola! You mean you don't know American slang. You must a young person, you should give up being a English Teacher on the Internet. We older people have learn many words and ways to say them in our life time, I know that does not meet with your approval, that's why I suggested you give up being a English teacher on the Internet. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FIXED Compiling Games Program
On 01/06/2011 10:56 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:45 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 01/06/2011 09:59 AM, Jim wrote: >>> So the little birdie told me to look in the Fedora repo and Wa-La >> >> If you're going to use a french word, spell it right: viola! > > I presume you mean French and voilà. > Never having learned French, I didn't know about the accent. I sit corrected. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14
> > > There is not a control-center-extra rpm installable in F14. > > Correct. That's what the RPM "Obsoletes" tag shows as I've demonstrated. > In F14, package control-center obsoletes package control-center-extra. > In other words, it replaces the control-center-extra package. > The RPM semantics are clear. One package replaces another if it provides > exactly the same stuff or similar stuff that is supposed to replace the > previous functionality. > Which iis consistant to the suubjwect headewr: computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14 > > If you run : yum install control-center-extra > > > > yum responds with: > > Package 1:control-center-2.32.0-1.fc14.i686 already installed and latest > > version > > Nothing to do > > > > Which is consistent with an interpretation of the postings you sent me > > that the functionality of control-center-extra has been incorporated in > > the rpm control-center. > > > > Do you think it means something different? > > > > In any case you can't run System->Preferences->Windows on your machine > > if you have chosen to use compiz. > > Well, you can run it, but it complains with an error dialog. > > > So that the option to choose a window > > when you move the mouse over it, is not directly available when using > > compiz and that was really my point. > > In _this_ thread and with this subject line? > > | From: Aaron Konstam akonstam sbcglobal net > | Subject: computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14 > | Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 13:02:30 -0600 > | > | Well for the computer-center-extra discussion. See link. > | > | http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=23 > > A bad link and no reference to any other "discussion". Only temporarily > one either had to install the separate control-center-extra package _or_ > (during the short period that the extra package was not available at all) > use gconftool to alter the window preferences. > > So, what are _you_ trying to point out? Well I mentioned it above but you missed it. computer-enter rpm does not correctly implement all the functionality of: computer-control-extra. It will not allow you to foucus windows with mouse movements when you use compiz under gnome. Evidently that works in KDE. I have been asking about that problem for more than a week now. There is no gconftool installable on my F14 installation. YMMV -- === Make it right before you make it faster. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FIXED Compiling Games Program
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 14:05 -0500, Jim wrote: > On 01/06/2011 01:45 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 01/06/2011 09:59 AM, Jim wrote: > >> So the little birdie told me to look in the Fedora repo and Wa-La > > If you're going to use a french word, spell it right: viola! > You mean you don't know American slang. > You must a young person, you should give up being a English Teacher on > the Internet. > We older people have learn many words and ways to say them in our life > time, I know that does not meet with your approval, that's why I > suggested you give up being a English teacher on the Internet. "have learn"? Really? If you're going to complain about being taken to task, at least read over your reply before sending it. poc (born 1949 if you think age is relevant to this) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FIXED Compiling Games Program
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 11:08 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/06/2011 10:56 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:45 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > >> On 01/06/2011 09:59 AM, Jim wrote: > >>> So the little birdie told me to look in the Fedora repo and Wa-La > >> > >> If you're going to use a french word, spell it right: viola! > > > > I presume you mean French and voilà. > > > > Never having learned French, I didn't know about the accent. I sit > corrected. The accent is pedantry on my part (but where's the fun in not being pedantic? :-) I remembered it had one but wasn't sure which until a quick search on Wikipedia confirmed it. In English usage I think it's optional. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Compiling Games Program
Joe Zeff zeff.us> writes: > Just out of curiosity, does that include the little adventure game based > on the FRP Paranoia? If so, I heartily recommend it. It's deviously > twisted, just like the game it's based on. Apparently not, but I found this port. I'd never heard of the game so haven't tested it. http://homepage.mac.com/spkane/python/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 09:12 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > In any case you can't run System->Preferences->Windows on your machine > if you have chosen to use compiz. So that the option to choose a window > when you move the mouse over it, is not directly available when using > compiz and that was really my point. > The facility System->Preferences->Windows that used to be provided in control-center-extras is now provided in control-center. If you run it with Desktop Effects enabled, it produces an error. The option to choose a window when you move the mouse over it *is* available when using Compiz--I'm doing it right now. The ability to set that option via System->Preferences->Windows when using Compiz is not available, but it can be set by (1) turning off Desktop Effects; (2) setting the option in System->Preferences->Windows; and (3) turning on Desktop Effects. One can also install additional Compiz features and get control of them directly via Compiz rather than via Gnome integration. Nevertheless, it seems like a bug that that can't be changed with Desktop Effects on. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FIXED Compiling Games Program
On 01/06/2011 11:05 AM, Jim wrote: > You mean you don't know American slang. > You must a young person, you should give up being a English Teacher on > the Internet. I probably learned how to use language like that long before you were born, and certainly before I went to 'Nam. Show some respect to your elders, you young whippersnapper! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FIXED Compiling Games Program
On 01/06/2011 11:26 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > poc (born 1949 if you think age is relevant to this) Yeah. Me too. Same year. Back when I went to college, having to take bonehead English, or any other *remedial* class was considered a disgrace, not a badge of pride. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ipv6 question
On Thursday, January 06, 2011 01:30:45 pm Lamar Owen wrote: > That is, given the NAT translation table snippet: > > tcp 10.10.10.10:52650 192.168.1.118:52650 74.125.67.99:8074.125.67.99:80 > tcp 10.10.10.10:1769 192.168.1.166:1769 74.125.67.99:8074.125.67.99:80 > > And assuming no other translations are in the table, 74.125.67.99 could scan > 10.10.10.10 all it wants; only packets to ports 52650 and 1769 will get > statelessly translated (bidirectionally; the return packets also get > translated for a tcp translation) to the respective addresses on the inside, > and only to those ports; all other packets to that 10.10.10.10 address will > be left untranslated and routed to the interface with 10.10.10.10 on its > subnet. More to the point, using ssh to get to a machine outside my network: lo...@localhost:~$ ssh r...@outside.somewhere.com Last login: Wed Jan 5 13:46:24 2011 from 10.10.10.10 [r...@outside ~]# nmap 10.10.10.10 Starting nmap 3.70 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2011-01-06 13:42 EST Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -P0 Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (0 hosts up) scanned in 1.069 seconds [r...@outside ~]# nmap -P0 -p 0- 10.10.10.10 Starting nmap 3.70 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2011-01-06 13:42 EST All 65536 scanned ports on dyn.somewhere-else.net (10.10.10.10) are: filtered Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 1376.328 seconds [r...@outside ~]# The nat translation table entry on the NAT box at the time: tcp 10.10.10.10:46354 192.168.1.118:46354 10.20.20.20:22 10.20.20.20:22 Where 10.10.10.10 is the particular IP in the global NAT pool, 192.168.1.118 is my laptop on the inside of the NAT, and 10.20.20.20 is the outside box. Addresses and names of course have been changed, but consistently changed (that is, in the login banner from outside.somewhere.com showing last login from 10.10.10.10, and every other 10.10.10.10 is the same real-world address; that is, even though I had an ssh session open, and the translation from 192.168.1.118:46354 to 10.10.10.10:46354 to 10.20.20.20:22 was forwarding packets both directions, other packets from 10.20.20.20 on other source ports did not get translated at all, but (in this case) got blackholed by the routing to a Null device in the Cisco 7206 doing the NAT. In the interests of full disclosure, there is a second Cisco router (a 12008) with the only ACL's in front of the NAT box; for the duration of this test the following ACL was added to take the firewall out of the loop, and then removed after the nmap run was complete: access-list 150 permit ip any host 10.10.10.10 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Compiling Games Program
On 01/06/2011 11:28 AM, Andre Robatino wrote: > Apparently not, but I found this port. I'd never heard of the game so haven't > tested it. You really, *really* need to know something about the FRP first. Check here for a good overview before trying the game: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia_%28role-playing_game%29 and remember, in the FRP, not only is the GM your only source of information, he really *is* out to get you, and you can't trust anybody, including him! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: FIXED Compiling Games Program
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:45 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 01/06/2011 09:59 AM, Jim wrote: > > So the little birdie told me to look in the Fedora repo and Wa-La > > If you're going to use a french word, spell it right: viola! do you mean voila? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:19:44 -0600, Aaron wrote: > > > > > > There is not a control-center-extra rpm installable in F14. > > > > Correct. That's what the RPM "Obsoletes" tag shows as I've demonstrated. > > In F14, package control-center obsoletes package control-center-extra. > > In other words, it replaces the control-center-extra package. > > The RPM semantics are clear. One package replaces another if it provides > > exactly the same stuff or similar stuff that is supposed to replace the > > previous functionality. > > > Which iis consistant to the suubjwect headewr: > > computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14 The package is called control-center not computer-center. You get that wrong all the time - also in the subject line. Further, it does not matter that the -extras subpackage is no longer available, since it has been merged back into its base package. It's just F12 and F13 where it has been split off as a subpackage -- built from the same control-center src.rpm. It has not been a separate package with a separate src.rpm, just a subpackage. > > So, what are _you_ trying to point out? > Well I mentioned it above but you missed it. computer-enter rpm does not > correctly implement all the functionality of: computer-control-extra. I didn't miss it. I'm fully aware of it. It just doesn't fit into a thread with this subject line. Once more: The control-center-extra package in F12 and F13 was built from the control-center src.rpm, then killed temporarily during F14 development, and revived later for F14. That the current gnome-window-properties tool gives an error dialog when running compiz may be unrelated and due to a bug. > It will not allow you to foucus windows with mouse movements when you > use compiz under gnome. Evidently that works in KDE. I have been asking > about that problem for more than a week now. You create a separate mail thread for "computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14" without pointing out why that would be relevant. > There is no gconftool > installable on my F14 installation. YMMV Sure it is: $ rpm -qf $(which gconftool-2) GConf2-2.31.91-1.fc14.i686 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:34:05 -0500, Matthew wrote: > The facility System->Preferences->Windows that used to be provided in > control-center-extras is now provided in control-center. If you run it > with Desktop Effects enabled, it produces an error. > > The option to choose a window when you move the mouse over it *is* > available when using Compiz--I'm doing it right now. The ability to set > that option via System->Preferences->Windows when using Compiz is not > available, but it can be set by (1) turning off Desktop Effects; (2) > setting the option in System->Preferences->Windows; and (3) turning on > Desktop Effects. Does not work here with F14. When desktop effects are off, my default is to raise windows with mouse-over. Switching on desktop effects disables the feature again. Your trick doesn't help. With F13 on the contrary, System->Preferences->Windows does work. However, that may be a bug (or even expected) in F14 and not related to NOT putting the gnome-window-properties tool in a subpackage. > Nevertheless, it seems like a bug that that can't be changed with > Desktop Effects on. One might need to find out why the tool had been dropped completely during F14 development and whether maybe it returned in a crippled form? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14
> The facility System->Preferences->Windows that used to be provided in > control-center-extras is now provided in control-center. If you run it > with Desktop Effects enabled, it produces an error. Oh, btw, skimming over https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/bugs/control-center and https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/bugs/compiz I found this bug report: Window manager "compiz" has not registered a configuration tool https://bugzilla.redhat.com/664711 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Kororaa Lite beta released
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 09:22:16 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: > Haha, well at least you gave it a shot!! :-) I'll do a bunch more, once I hear it has Gnome. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Kororaa Lite beta released
On Thursday, January 06, 2011 04:19:08 pm Beartooth wrote: > On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 09:22:16 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: > > > Haha, well at least you gave it a shot!! :-) > > I'll do a bunch more, once I hear it has Gnome. Now why would a KDE-based respin want to include GNOME? :-) There is a similar GNOME respin called Omega; perhaps that would be a better fit. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Yum not updating packages to latest version
Hello, I have noticed that there are packages in fedora-updates which are not being updated on my machine when I run yum update. I have the updates repo enabled and I disabled yum-priority and yum-protectbase. I have don a yum clean all and when I run yum update it downloads the updates/primary_db. As an example I have bacula-5.0.2 installed on my machine. I see in http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/13/x86_64/ that the bacula version is bacula-5.0.3-2 with a date of 10-Dec-2010. Am I missing something or am I not getting all of the updates I should be? Maybe the mirror being used is not updating properly. Is there a way to set a specific mirror or specify http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/13/x86_64/ on a yum update? Thanks, Patrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Name that spin!
I've been trying various things, mostly Fedora variants, for various reasons lately, and haven't kept good track. One machine has been running for days, maybe a week or more, on some live medium, calling me "liveuser." I like it, whatever it is; but I don't want to interrupt it (by shutting down and ejecting the disk, for instance) till I've tried a few more things. (Most of what I've done so far is more setting up than using.) "uname -a" says only that it's F14. I *think* it's Fusion. How do I get it to tell me for sure? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Name that spin!
to, 2011-01-06 kello 22:26 +, Beartooth kirjoitti: > "uname -a" says only that it's F14. I *think* it's Fusion. How do > I get it to tell me for sure? What is on /etc/fedora-release? -- You will not censor me through bug terrorism. -- James Troup -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F14 : KDE primer??
Last time I even looked at KDE, it was release 2 or 3, more likely the former. It didn't appeal to me, and I abandoned it. Now at least two distributions (Kororaa and PC-BSD) run KDE4 by default -- and it bewilders me. Ten to one I never really get serious -- I have too much hard- earned experience invested in Gnome -- but I do want to manage well enough, if I can, to explore my interest in those and maybe other choices. (Anybody run Knoppix installed to hard drive??) Someday, maybe, some kind soul will port one or more of them to Gnome; then it'd be nice to know at once whether to run not walk to the new version. Is there something like a primer somewhere, pointing out the basics to those old enough to know better, but entirely innocent of them? I'm thinking of things like running Gnome's Workspace-switcher, or an equivalent if KDE 4 has one, just to get started. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: computer-center-extra is no longer with us in F14
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 21:55 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:34:05 -0500, Matthew wrote: > > > The facility System->Preferences->Windows that used to be provided in > > control-center-extras is now provided in control-center. If you run it > > with Desktop Effects enabled, it produces an error. > > > > The option to choose a window when you move the mouse over it *is* > > available when using Compiz--I'm doing it right now. The ability to set > > that option via System->Preferences->Windows when using Compiz is not > > available, but it can be set by (1) turning off Desktop Effects; (2) > > setting the option in System->Preferences->Windows; and (3) turning on > > Desktop Effects. > > Does not work here with F14. When desktop effects are off, my default is > to raise windows with mouse-over. Switching on desktop effects disables > the feature again. Your trick doesn't help. OK I stand corrected. > > With F13 on the contrary, System->Preferences->Windows does work. Ah, so on my machines, I installed F14 by preupgrade and my home configs are left over from F13. > However, that may be a bug (or even expected) in F14 and not related to > NOT putting the gnome-window-properties tool in a subpackage. > > > Nevertheless, it seems like a bug that that can't be changed with > > Desktop Effects on. > > One might need to find out why the tool had been dropped completely > during F14 development and whether maybe it returned in a crippled form? Another message in the thread cites the Bugzilla entry. Also, I suddenly noticed that pushing the mouse cursor into the upper-right corner of the display no longer seems to tile the windows in the current workspace. I'm sure it used to, not long ago. That's the main reason I like Desktop Effects anyway. > -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ipv6 question
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 13:30 -0500, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Wednesday, January 05, 2011 07:51:19 pm Michael H. Warfield wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 17:26 -0500, Lamar Owen wrote: > > > I refer in particular to Cisco IOS NAT, IOS 12.4(23) mainline on a > > > 7206/NPE-G1, using NAT pools and overloading. Incoming packets > > > addressed to the outside interface that don't match the flows that the > > > router knows about get dropped. > > > What you say is true but is equally true if you retain the stateful > > firewall at the heart of the NAT engine and eliminate the NAT. > > The Cisco NAT is by default stateless; you have to specifically > configure stateful NAT (on platforms that support it, and if your IOS > feature set has that feature), but that mostly just gets you HSRP > resilience for NAT; the packet translation itself is stateless (and > hardware accelerated on some platforms, especially those with PXF > which can do the IP header rewrites at wire speed). It's actually not that terribly difficult to do the rewrites at wire speed. Years ago, I sat through a presentation done by one of the original people with the PIX hockey puck NAT long before Cisco bought them out. The trick is that you don't validate or recalculate the checksum over the entire packet. You just calculate the difference created by the few fields you change and add the difference into the existing checksum. If the checksum was bad coming it, it's bad going out but if it's good coming in, it's good going out. So you're really just altering 6 bytes (port and address), taking the different between the sum of those 6 bytes from the sum of the six originals, and correcting the sum in the header and never even look at the payload. Your memory speed over the whole packet moving it is going to take longer. Your hash table mapping lookup is going to take longer than summing those two sets of numbers, subtracting the results, and adding with the original sum. Piece of cake and quite a cute trick of insight there on their part. > > 'Stateful Firewalling' in Cisco-land is 'packet inspection' or even > deep packet inspection, and is an additional feature set (and an > additional cost for the IOS image), but images which cannot do > stateful inspection can do NAT overload. Stateful firewalling in that > context is also referred to as CBAC (Context-based Access Control). > This inspection is a control-plane activity that writes ACLs, whereas > NAT happens in the data (forwarding) plane, as a separate step from > the ACL application (also in the forwarding plane). You're just talking nameology here with this. Call it what you want, there is still a state engine at the heart of the NAT driving the NAT mappings. It's that state engine that adds a table entry when an outgoing packet initiates a connection entry and it's that state engine that eventually tears down that connection in the table when it is no longer in use. However specific "Cisco" uses the term "Stateful Firewalling" or "Stateful Inspection" (or loosely they use the term "deep packet inspection" when it isn't very "deep") the fact remains that the heart of a NAT/NAT-PT is a state engine. They may not call it a firewall and the port mappings themselves may not be stateful once the table entry is made, but it is still a state engine managing the table entries. The individual packet translations equally do not have to be stateful but they do have to look up the mappings in a table of entries which are maintained by a state engine. You can also easily have the translations taking place out on an ASIC interface card but have the state engine running on the management CPU updating the tables in the cards. If the mappings are dynamic (IOW, you don't have to code them in yourself) then there is a state engine which establishes them and removes them. It may (or may not) simplier than the state engine at the heart of a stateful firewall but it is still a state engine. > > The NAT > > is not what's giving you this protection. It's the stateful nature of > > THAT particular NAT which is the same as as a linear stateful firewall. > > No difference. And other forms of NAT do not enjoy this. > [snip valid NAT config that is set up to not provide that benefit] > > > NAT, in and of itself, is not providing the security. It's the state > > engine at the heart of most (but not all) NAT devices and all stateful > > firewalls. It's not the NAT, it's the firewall. > > NAT in cisco IOS is stateless unless certain features are turned on. The > forwarding plane as part of the switching process performs the header > translation (if one exists) and then routes; if there is no destination for > the route it's blackholed, or hairpinned (depending on configuration). > > That is, given the NAT translation table snippet: > > tcp 10.10.10.10:52650 192.168.1.118:52650 74.125.67.99:8074.125.67.99:80 > tcp 10.10.10.10:1769 192.168.1.166:1769 74.125.67.99:8074.125.67.99:80 >
Restricting ssh
I have an sshd server running on a machine in Ireland. Can I configure it so that it only accepts connection from certain machines, wherever they may be in the world? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Yum not updating packages to latest version
Suddenly yum update now updates bacula to bacula-5.0.3-2 for F13 a but it is not yet working for F14 On 01/06/2011 03:38 PM, Patrick McEvoy wrote: > Hello, > > I have noticed that there are packages in fedora-updates which are not > being updated on my machine when I run yum update. I have the updates > repo enabled and I disabled yum-priority and yum-protectbase. I have > don a yum clean all and when I run yum update it downloads the > updates/primary_db. As an example I have bacula-5.0.2 installed on my > machine. I see in > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/13/x86_64/ > that the bacula version is bacula-5.0.3-2 with a date of 10-Dec-2010. > Am I missing something or am I not getting all of the updates I should > be? Maybe the mirror being used is not updating properly. Is there a > way to set a specific mirror or specify > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/13/x86_64/ on > a yum update? > > Thanks, > > Patrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
RE: Restricting ssh
You can use iptables or you can configure sshd config - Ray Pittigher Software Development Environment Department --phone 973-284-2275 --email raymond.pittig...@itt.com http://acdnjpvcs/tmtrack/tmtrack.dll for all your SDE Support needs From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org [users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Murphy [gayle...@eircom.net] Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 6:28 PM To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Restricting ssh I have an sshd server running on a machine in Ireland. Can I configure it so that it only accepts connection from certain machines, wherever they may be in the world? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporation. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Restricting ssh
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 00:28:47 +0100 Timothy Murphy wrote: > Can I configure it so that it only accepts connection > from certain machines, wherever they may be in the world? Set ssh to accept only keys and not passwords. Install a key on each authorized computer. Done. You can also run sshd on a port that isn't 22, which will cut down on the entries in your log file. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ www.melvilletheatre.com www.creekfm.com - FIFTY THOUSAND WATTS of POW WOW POWER! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Restricting ssh
Timothy Murphy writes: I have an sshd server running on a machine in Ireland. Can I configure it so that it only accepts connection from certain machines, wherever they may be in the world? In sshd_config set: PasswordAuthentication no Then, on the machines that you wish to allow connections from, in each account you wish to connect, run ssh-keygen to generate a keypair. This will create id_rsa and id_rsa.pub (or id_dsa and id_dsa.pub) in $HOME/.ssh (with permissions set appropriately), then append the contents of id_rsa.pub or id_dsa.pub to the $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys2 file on the server that you want to connect TO. Now, only the accounts whose private keys are listed in authorized_keys2 will be able to log in to your server. And, as an added bonus, no password will be required. The key takes place of the password, and only the machine where the key is installed will be able to log in. pgp7Yz4WyMCmL.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Restricting ssh
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 00:28:47 +0100 Timothy Murphy wrote: > Can I configure it so that it only accepts connection > from certain machines, wherever they may be in the world? I've setup iptables to drop just about everything, then I have (among others) an /etc/sysconfig/iptables entry like this: -A INPUT -s NNN.NNN.NNN.NNN/32 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT Which allows just the IP NNN.NNN.NNN.NNN access to connect to my ssh server (where in my case the IP address is the IP of my company's firewall, so I can connect from work - of course anyone else at work will look like they are coming from the same IP, but I also use public keys for authentication). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Yum not updating packages to latest version
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:35:32 -0600 Patrick McEvoy wrote: > Suddenly yum update now updates bacula to bacula-5.0.3-2 for F13 a > but it is not yet working for F14 Try: 'yum clean expire-cache' and then the update again... kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Restricting ssh
On Friday, January 07, 2011 12:41:39 am Frank Cox wrote: > > Can I configure it [sshd] so that it only accepts connection > > from certain machines, wherever they may be in the world? > > Set ssh to accept only keys and not passwords. Install a key on each > authorized computer. Done. Thanks for your response. But could you explain more fully how to do this. I find sshd_config more or less unintelligible. > You can also run sshd on a port that isn't 22, which will cut down on the > entries in your log file. I do that already. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ipv6 question
On Thursday, January 06, 2011 06:22:06 pm Michael H. Warfield wrote: > You're just talking nameology here with this. Call it what you want, > there is still a state engine at the heart of the NAT driving the NAT > mappings. Sent a reply off-list, as this type of discussion is really off-topic for the Fedora list. If any one is interested in the details of the reply, please let me know and I'll forward you a copy. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Restricting ssh
On Friday, January 07, 2011 12:40:24 am Pittigher, Raymond - ES wrote: >> Can I configure it [sshd] so that it only accepts connection >> from certain machines, wherever they may be in the world? > You can use iptables or you can configure sshd config How and how? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Problems with grub/fedora/windowsxp
Hi; I don't seem to be able to chainload to WindowsXP anymore. My grub.conf in /boot/grub/ includes: ... title WindowsXP SP3 rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1 makeactive ]# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 41.0 GB, 40981069312 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4982 cylinders, total 80041151 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xa6a9a6a9 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 636364952931824733+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda26364953080035829 8193150f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sda56364959380035829 8193118+ 83 Linux Disk /dev/sdb: 500.1 GB, 500106780160 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976771055 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00066c56 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb12048 1026047 512000 83 Linux /dev/sdb22150604825602047 2048000 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdb3 1026048215060471024 83 Linux /dev/sdb425602048 976769023 4755834885 Extended /dev/sdb525604096 935809023 455102464 83 Linux /dev/sdb6 935811072 97676902320478976b W95 FAT32 Partition table entries are not in disk order First question: Just to double check. Is the chainloader for WindowsXP written correctly? I have been know to repeatedly over look a stupidity. Second Question: What does "Partition table entries are not in disk order" mean? I googled and got articles on the new 4096 disk sector format. Never had a problem with that before. Second question: grub> find /boot/grub/stage1 find /boot/grub/stage1 Error 15: File not found but, grub> find /grub/stage1 find /grub/stage1 (hd1,0) (hd2,0) Yet, the /boot partition exists, and contains my /grub/grub.conf file. Any changes I make in this file show up in the grub menu at boot up. Has grub been changed to ignore the /boot? Why is find telling me I have two disks with stage1. I have only one (hd1,0), Could it by finding a stage1 file on my (hd0,4) - my linux backup partition? How? It hasn't been added to fstab yet. Then, grub> root (hd1,0) root (hd1,0) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 grub> setup (hd0) setup (hd0) Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... no Checking if "/grub/stage1" exists... yes Checking if "/grub/stage2" exists... yes Checking if "/grub/e2fs_stage1_5" exists... yes Running "embed /grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0)"... 26 sectors are embedded. succeeded Running "install /grub/stage1 d (hd0) (hd0)1+26 p (hd1,0)/grub/stage2 /grub/grub.conf"... succeeded Done. However, as a double check I ran grub-install # grub-install hd1 Installation finished. No error reported. This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map. Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect, fix it and re-run the script `grub-install'. # this device map was generated by anaconda (hd0) /dev/sda (hd1) /dev/sdb Now here is where it gets really confusing: When grub.conf in /boot/grub/ includes: title Fedora (2.6.35.10-74.fc14.x86_64) root (hd1,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.35.10-74.fc14.x86_64 ro root=UUID=20... etc. Fedora won't boot. But when I change it to the following (hd2,0): title Fedora (2.6.35.10-74.fc14.x86_64) root (hd2,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.35.10-74.fc14.x86_64 ro root=UUID=20 Fedora boots. Finally, as a test to see if WindowsXP will boot on its own, without the use of grub, using my WindowsXP Recovery Console, tried to restore the MBR. WindowsXP would no longer boot. Two outstanding other pieces of information. I thought sda (hd0) was failing and removed the cables to save it. Reattaching the cables seemed to fix everything. I can mount sda. No more spin up problems are being recorded by 'Smart'. I re-installed Fedora 14 but his should not have mucked up the windows (sda) installation order as can some times happen. That's it. Any suggestions on what I should try next? -- Regards Bill Fedora 14, Gnome 2.32 Evo.2.32, Emacs 23.2.1 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: DNS not working in Fedora 14
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 01/04/2011 11:34 AM, Dick Holland wrote: >> >> So if that proves that the glibc bug you suspected is indeed there, >> Gordon, what's the next step for us to take? > > I've added information to the bug (which I originally filed). You can > add yourself to the CC list if you have an account. I looked at this > once before and wasn't able to reach any conclusion. I'll try again to > make sense of glibc's code. For your netopia problem, have you seen: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505105#c48 For your last update to your bug report, you chose the wrong dig output since google.com doesn't have an ipv6 address and therefore that query'll fail whether DNS is or isn't working. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Quantifying X performance
The Gallium update to the ATI driver seems to have made X performance much worse on my system. Obviously though, "feels slower" isn't exactly specific. Is there a program out there that will measure X performance? (I do know about glxgears, and it does report a 20X lower frame-rate on Fedora 14 that it did on Fedora 13, but it also says that it is "Running synchronized to the vertical refresh", so I don't think it's a valid metric.) Thanks! -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: I'm asking help for my project - If you're interested get contacted with me
-- Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 10:44 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 01/06/2011 09:26 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> > Plenty of >> > native English speakers on this list and elsewhere seem unable to state >> > clearly what they mean, but that's getting somewhat OT. >> >> Yes. Not only was Henry Higgens right, his complaint is getting truer >> by the year. > > So was Henry Higgins ... > > poc > wow, a Hungarian producer, and a character named Zoltan! charles zeitler Love is the law, love under will. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Nautilus issues F14
I just installed F14 on my notebook. I cannot find Nautilus anywhere in the Gnome menus. In F12 it was in the Applications -> System Tools. It is not there. When I run Nautilus from a command line, I do not get the side window with the directory tree, nor the location field and the view table does not show this as options. So how do I fix Nautilus? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Nautilus issues F14
On Friday 07 January 2011 11:55 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I just installed F14 on my notebook. I cannot find Nautilus anywhere in > the Gnome menus. In F12 it was in the Applications -> System Tools. It > is not there. > > When I run Nautilus from a command line, I do not get the side window > with the directory tree, nor the location field and the view table does > not show this as options. > > So how do I fix Nautilus? > > open any folder ( means nautilus ) and press F9:-) or go to view and select Side Panel -- °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Jatin Khatri Registerd Linux user No #501175 www.counter.li.org No M$ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Problems with grub/fedora/windowsxp
On 01/06/2011 05:21 PM, William Case wrote: > title WindowsXP SP3 > rootnoverify (hd0,0) > chainloader +1 > makeactive I see one problem: you need to have makeactive before, not after the chainloader command. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
