Re: Using ionice -c3 in f13: system seems less responsive than under f12
Am 25.11.2010 14:30, schrieb John Pilkington: > Hi: My system spends a lot of its time processing video data, often > with not much numerical processing involved - just remuxing or making an > iso image. atop often shows disk activity above 90%. I do most of this > using ionice -c3, (ie 'idle' scheduling) which is supposed to reduce > impact on other tasks. The man page says "The impact of idle io > processes on normal system activity should be zero" and certainly > under f12 that seemed at least approximately true; but under f13 > terminal response is often very sluggish when these tasks are running. > Using kde 4.5.3, scheduling elevator=deadline (as in f12). > > Am I expecting the right thing? Does anyone else see this? > > John P > maybe your processing is using CPU also? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: End of life for FC12?
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 10:57 +0300, Hiisi wrote: > Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) > -- Unknown source Never trust an aphorism you don't have the source for :-) -- Me poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: End of life for FC12?
On 26/11/2010 07:57, Hiisi wrote: > to, 2010-11-25 kello 17:40 -0700, James McKenzie kirjoitti: >> Before the days of Linux, I had an OS/2 system that was up for two >> years. I had to shut it down to move it from the United States to >> Korea. It ran there for months and months. Not all Operating >> Systems >> are as unstable as Windows98 (it had the worst uptime that I know >> of.) >> I even ran a NetWare server that was up for six months (I crashed it >> running a backup, the tape drive was filthy and a bug in the backup >> program brought down the server.) >> >> James McKenzie > This is all system and people dependent though. I've had windows servers running with no problems for months on end -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: End of life for FC12?
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 07:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Never trust an aphorism you don't have the source for :-) > -- Me > > poc ]$ which fortune /usr/bin/fortune -- "It's ten o'clock... Do you know where your AI programs are?" -- Peter Oakley -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Fedora14 Audio mixers in KDE
I have just updated some systems for Fedora12 to Fedora14. All has gone well and is working well, so far, except that I don't seem to be able to control the mixer on the sound hardware. Sound is working, in that I get the login music, beeps etc. Specifically I want to listen to audio from the Line input. The KDE sound icon has an overall level control but no other controls. The "Configure Channels" settings in kmix do not list any other channels. This on three systems, with different sound hardware although all Intel I think. Any ideas, has something changed with the pulseaudio config ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Fedora14 3D graphics with ATI, very very slow
Hi, I have just updated from Fedora12 to Fedora14 on a few systems. There is a problem with 3D graphics on at least two of these systems. The one I am currently using has: 08:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV535 [Radeon X1650 Series] (rev 9e) OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on RV530 If I try and run blender, it comes up but there appear to be multiple second delays when trying to click on menus etc. If I try and turn compositing on then the graphics is very slow moving windows etc. Is this due to the new Gallium 3D driver ? A laptop with a Mobility Radeon X300 appears the same. Any ideas ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: End of life for FC12?
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 15:07 +0300, Hiisi wrote: > On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 07:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Never trust an aphorism you don't have the source for :-) > > -- Me > > > > poc > > ]$ which fortune > /usr/bin/fortune Not to beat a dead horse, but /usr/bin/fortune is not the source, it's simply a collection. The attribution even says "Unknown Source", which is what provoked my tongue-in-cheek reply, now ruined by having to explain it :-) poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
CPU usage with iostat
Hi, Why the first execution of "iostat -c" always displays the same values? [r...@abc ~]# iostat -c Linux 2.6.9-55.ELsmp (abc) 11/26/2010 avg-cpu: %user %nice%sys %iowait %idle 5.620.003.083.30 88.00 [r...@abc ~]# iostat -c Linux 2.6.9-55.ELsmp (abc) 11/26/2010 avg-cpu: %user %nice%sys %iowait %idle 5.620.003.083.30 88.00 [r...@abc ~]# iostat -c Linux 2.6.9-55.ELsmp (abc) 11/26/2010 avg-cpu: %user %nice%sys %iowait %idle 5.620.003.083.30 88.00 ___ ___ When I use "iostat -c 1" the next values are modified: [r...@abc ~]# iostat -c 1 Linux 2.6.9-55.ELsmp (abc) 11/26/2010 avg-cpu: %user %nice%sys %iowait %idle 5.620.003.083.30 88.00 avg-cpu: %user %nice%sys %iowait %idle 2.000.004.00 23.25 70.75 avg-cpu: %user %nice%sys %iowait %idle 0.750.001.74 24.38 73.13 avg-cpu: %user %nice%sys %iowait %idle 0.250.000.50 24.56 74.69 ___ ___ Reading the man pages os iostat, I could not understand these lines: *"The first report generated by the iostat command provides statistics concerning the time since the system was booted. Each subsequent report covers the time since the previous report." "The first report contains statistics for the time since system startup (boot). Each subsequent report contains statistics collected during the interval since the previous report."* *Why it can´t build a report with the current usage values at the first execution?* -- Att. Bruno Galindro da Costa bruno.galin...@gmail.com http://www.thevenusproject.com/ http://www.arthurvinicius.com.br/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: End of life for FC12?
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 08:51 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Not to beat a dead horse, but /usr/bin/fortune is not the source, it's
> simply a collection. The attribution even says "Unknown Source", which
> is what provoked my tongue-in-cheek reply, now ruined by having to
> explain it :-)
>
> poc
Yes, I understand it well ;-) About that phrase ("never trust an
operating system you don't have sources for"): I'm in a total agreement
with it!
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Re: CPU usage with iostat
On 11/26/10 5:47 AM, Bruno Galindro da Costa wrote: > Hi, > >Why the first execution of "iostat -c" always displays the same values? > > Reading the man pages os iostat, I could not understand these lines: > > /"The first report generated by the iostat command provides > statistics concerning the time since the system was booted. Each > subsequent report covers the time since the previous report." > "The first report contains statistics for the time since system > startup (boot). Each subsequent report contains statistics collected > during the interval since the previous report."/ > > *Why it can´t build a report with the current usage values at the > first execution?* > Because that is the way it was designed. Most statistics programs record what has happened either since the last time they were run or from system start. Analysts wanted it that way. Maybe you can ask the folks that designed the program to do startup 'snapshots' by entering a numeric value. That should not be so hard, but this will alter the programs functioning from what it used to be. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: End of life for FC12?
On 11/26/10 12:57 AM, Hiisi wrote: > to, 2010-11-25 kello 17:40 -0700, James McKenzie kirjoitti: >> Before the days of Linux, I had an OS/2 system that was up for two >> years. I had to shut it down to move it from the United States to >> Korea. It ran there for months and months. Not all Operating >> Systems >> are as unstable as Windows98 (it had the worst uptime that I know >> of.) >> I even ran a NetWare server that was up for six months (I crashed it >> running a backup, the tape drive was filthy and a bug in the backup >> program brought down the server.) >> >> James McKenzie > I didn't say that F12 or Linux in common is unstable. On the contrary, > I'm pretty sure we're on the right shore. My system serves as a router > for home network so it's up all the time. However with buggy flash > (random crashes that causes hangups of X server) and kernel updates > (which is not so frequently near the EOL of F12) I had to reboot it or > even hard reboot every 5-10 days. Ouch. Buggy systems are a bear to troubleshoot and maintain. I liked my uptime however. I have a Mac now and things have been getting stranger and stranger. It may be time to go ahead and refresh build it. May take care of the problems with Firefox locking the system from any inputs, which started with FF 3.5. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Using ionice -c3 in f13: system seems less responsive than under f12
On 26/11/10 08:46, Harald Hoyer wrote: > Am 25.11.2010 14:30, schrieb John Pilkington: >> Hi: My system spends a lot of its time processing video data, often >> with not much numerical processing involved - just remuxing or making an >> iso image. atop often shows disk activity above 90%. I do most of this >> using ionice -c3, (ie 'idle' scheduling) which is supposed to reduce >> impact on other tasks. The man page says "The impact of idle io >> processes on normal system activity should be zero" and certainly >> under f12 that seemed at least approximately true; but under f13 >> terminal response is often very sluggish when these tasks are running. >> Using kde 4.5.3, scheduling elevator=deadline (as in f12). >> >> Am I expecting the right thing? Does anyone else see this? >> >> John P >> > > maybe your processing is using CPU also? > Well, yes. But the CPU-intensive parts seem ok; it's the parts that are essentially datastream shuffling that are having the most impact, and it seems more noticeable than it did in f12. I've tried to arrange these to read and write on different spindles. Maybe different tasks are having to be retrieved from disk, and that accounts for the delay, but I didn't think that was happening. Swap doesn't appear to be active. My initial reply didn't go to the list. Sorry! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Problm with icons on desktop
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 02:12 +0300, Hiisi wrote: > to, 2010-11-25 kello 08:38 -0600, Aaron Konstam kirjoitti: > > A question occurred to me. What configs would you coy from the virgin > > user? Maybe I missed the one I need to copy. > > I only had this problem once a few releases ago with .bash_profile (when > I messed my own trying to customize it). > > I wonder does that virgin user has the same problem? If you create a new > user does the problem persists with him? > -- > The documentation is in Japanese. Good luck. > -- Rich $alz > No it doesn't. I can fix this but it is annoying. You can tar up the directory, then remove and reinstall the user. Finally, install the tar file as a subdirectory under the home directory Finally move the files and directories from this subdirectory to the home directory. Making sure you don't transfer the configuration files. Alternately you can untar the tar file into the home directory using the -k option which prevents files already in the home directory from being changed. Both methods will I think do the job. -- === Q: How do you know when you're in the section of Vermont? A: The maple sap buckets are hanging on utility poles. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KDE and proxy configuration script
Replying to myself... Just in case if someone has similar problem.
The proxy configuration script did not work because myIpAddress()
incorrectly returned IPv4 localhost address: "127.0.0.1" (in google-
chrome) or IPv6 "::1" (in firefox). I don't know if this is a bug in
myIpAddress(), or the reason was in /etc/hosts file which was
overwritten by NetworkManager as follows:
# Do not remove the following line, or various programs
# that require network functionality will fail.
192.168.1.66realhostname# Added by NetworkManager
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
::1 realhostnamelocalhost6.localdomain6 localhost6
The workaround is to add the following script in
/etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d:
cut here **
#!/bin/sh
export PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:$PATH
rewrite_hosts ()
{
tmphosts="/tmp/02-nm-tmp.hosts"
cp /etc/hosts "$tmphosts"
cat "$tmphosts" | sed \
's/^::1\t.*$/::1\tlocalhost6.localdomain6\tlocalhost6/' > /etc/hosts
}
if [ "$2" = "up" ]
then
rewrite_hosts
fi
cut here **
On Tuesday 23 November 2010, Serguei Miridonov wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is there any way to trace how KDE sets proxy from the PAC
> configuration file? For me it seems not working...
>
> Here is a sample file proxy_config.pac:
>
> function FindProxyForURL(url, host)
> {
> if (shExpMatch(url, "https:*")) return "DIRECT";
> if (isInNet(host, "127.0.0.0", "255.0.0.0")) return "DIRECT";
> if ( shExpMatch(host, "localhost") ) return "DIRECT";
> if ( shExpMatch(host, "localhost.*") ) return "DIRECT";
> if ( shExpMatch(host, "127.0.0.*") ) return "DIRECT";
> if ( isPlainHostName(host) ) return "DIRECT";
>
> var resolved_ip = dnsResolve(host);
>
> if (isInNet(myIpAddress(),"xxx.xxx.0.0", "255.255.0.0")) {
> if (isInNet(resolved_ip, "xxx.xxx.0.0", "255.255.0.0"))
> return "DIRECT";
> if (dnsDomainIs(host, ".xxx.xx"))
> return "DIRECT";
> return "PROXY xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3128";
> }
> return "DIRECT";
> }
>
> The KDE is set to "Use proxy configuration URL"
> file:///home/X/proxy_config.pac
>
> When at home and I have direct connection to Internet, everything
> works. However, when at work and my IP address is within specified
> xxx.xxx.0.0 network, I can not see any web page. It seems like KDE
> is still set to direct connection but these are blocked by a
> firewall, only proxy connections are allowed. KDE (konqueror and
> plasma applets) does not even try to connect to proxy server.
>
> Does anybody have the same problem?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> By the way, testing PAC file with pactester shows no error, so it
> seems OK but KDE does something wrong...
>
> System: Fedora 12, KDE 4.4.5.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Serguei.
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Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:50:10 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Markku Kolkka wrote: > > 23.11.2010 15:52, Fernando Cassia kirjoitti: > >> Are there any restrictions, for ditributing a pre-installed Fedora VM > >> appliance (for Virtualbox)? > > > > The Trademark Guidelines: > > (use http://tinyurl.com/32fbuy5 if the above long URL is broken by mail > > software) > > Thanks a bunch Markku! This answered my questions. > I will have to remove all the logos, then... Don't forget that you have to also comply with the licenses of the software you install, which is going to include at least some gpl'd code. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: End of life for FC12?
On 11/25/2010 11:57 PM, Hiisi wrote: > However with buggy flash > (random crashes that causes hangups of X server) and kernel updates > (which is not so frequently near the EOL of F12) I had to reboot it or > even hard reboot every 5-10 days. Odd. I only reboot my desktop for kernel updates and I can remember f 12 having updates of literally biblical proportions. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
How to install the LibreOffice beta 3 rpm package
Hi, :-) There is a download of LibreOffice 3.3 beta 3 at: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta3/rpm/x86/LibO_3.3.0_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz There are no instructions about how to install it, and I want to draft a how-to to be included with the download. However, I'm an Ubuntu user and I'm not familiar with installing rpm's any more. Could anyone help me out with precise instructions for Fedora Core so that the LibO community's newbie users have chance of success? To provide a framework, here are the instructions applicable to Debian Ubuntu: "1) When you unpack the downloaded archive, you will see that the contents have been decompressed into a directory called "en-US". Open a terminal window, and change directory to the "en-US" directory. 2) The "en-US" directory contains a subdirectory called "DEBS". Change directory to the directory "DEBS". 3) Then run this command (you will be prompted to enter your root user's password): sudo dpkg -i *.deb 4) dpkg does the first part of the installation process. Now change directory to the "desktop-integration" directory that is within the "DEBS" directory. Run the dpkg command again: sudo dpkg -i *.deb The installation process is now completed, and you should have icons for all the LibreOffice applications in your Applications/Office menu." Could someone edit the above instructions to work for Fedora Core? A big thanks in advance for any help... ;-) David Nelson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to install the LibreOffice beta 3 rpm package
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 01:15:59 +0800 David Nelson wrote: > Hi, :-) > > There is a download of LibreOffice 3.3 beta 3 at: > > http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta3/rpm/x86/LibO_3.3.0_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz > > There are no instructions about how to install it, and I want to draft > a how-to to be included with the download. > > However, I'm an Ubuntu user and I'm not familiar with installing rpm's > any more. Could anyone help me out with precise instructions for > Fedora Core so that the LibO community's newbie users have chance of > success? Note that it's just "Fedora" now since Fedora 7. ;) Sure, I'll take a stab... > To provide a framework, here are the instructions applicable to > Debian Ubuntu: This step is the same: > "1) When you unpack the downloaded archive, you will see that the > contents have been decompressed into a directory called "en-US". Open > a terminal window, and change directory to the "en-US" directory. This step the dir is called 'RPMS': > 2) The "en-US" directory contains a subdirectory called "DEBS". Change > directory to the directory "DEBS". This should be: su -c 'yum install *.rpm' > 3) Then run this command (you will be prompted to enter your root > user's password): > > sudo dpkg -i *.deb This step doesn't appear to be needed, there is no desktop-integration directory for the rpm based install... > 4) dpkg does the first part of the installation process. Now change > directory to the "desktop-integration" directory that is within the > "DEBS" directory. Run the dpkg command again: > > sudo dpkg -i *.deb > > The installation process is now completed, and you should have icons > for all the LibreOffice applications in your Applications/Office > menu." > > Could someone edit the above instructions to work for Fedora Core? A > big thanks in advance for any help... ;-) Thats a first stab at it. Hopefully some other folks can try it and expand on it. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to install the LibreOffice beta 3 rpm package
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 2:15 PM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi, :-) > > There is a download of LibreOffice 3.3 beta 3 at: > > http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/3.3.0-beta3/rpm/x86/LibO_3.3.0_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz > > There are no instructions about how to install it, and I want to draft > a how-to to be included with the download. Sounds to me that the media-hyped and so-caled "exodus" from Evil Oracle to LibreOffice still hasn´t reached the *critical mass* needed to let this new independent autonomous body of well-spirited Oracle-fearing and freedom-loving people who support Microsoft´s XML formats and Novell´s patches to properly assemble RPMs, or documentation for that matter. Oh, what a riot -sorry, couldn´t resist- Please, ignore this message. FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to install the LibreOffice beta 3 rpm package
Hi Kevin, :-) On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 01:33, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > This step doesn't appear to be needed, there is no desktop-integration > directory for the rpm based install... Thanks for your help there! But, just for info, actually there is indeed one (it's right at the end when you look in File Roller...). If you don't install that bit then there's no Gnome menu icons, etc... David Nelson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:50:10 -0300, > Fernando Cassia wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Markku Kolkka wrote: >> > 23.11.2010 15:52, Fernando Cassia kirjoitti: >> >> Are there any restrictions, for ditributing a pre-installed Fedora VM >> >> appliance (for Virtualbox)? >> > >> > The Trademark Guidelines: >> > (use http://tinyurl.com/32fbuy5 if the above long URL is broken by mail >> > software) >> >> Thanks a bunch Markku! This answered my questions. >> I will have to remove all the logos, then... > > Don't forget that you have to also comply with the licenses of the software > you install, which is going to include at least some gpl'd code. A full Linux installation in a VM doesn´t already include all copyright and licenses inside the VM file?. FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: End of life for FC12?
Greg Woods wrote: > On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 11:07 -0800, Michael Miles wrote: > > >>> I stay with things that work for me, I'm still on wife 1.0. ;-) >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> I stay with things that work for me, I'm still on wife 1.0 >> >> >> >> >> That's just too funny bro. >> I laughed my butt off. >> > http://www.indranet.com/potpourri/humor/girlfriend_upgrade.html > > :-) > > --Greg > > > Too funnyThanks for the laugh -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 14:48:52 -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > A full Linux installation in a VM doesn´t already include all > copyright and licenses inside the VM file?. If you distribute binaries, you need to make source code available as well. There are a few ways to do that and you want to make sure you are doing at least one of them. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Distributing a Fedora appliance
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 14:48:52 -0300, > Fernando Cassia wrote: >> >> A full Linux installation in a VM doesn´t already include all >> copyright and licenses inside the VM file?. > > If you distribute binaries, you need to make source code available as well. > There are a few ways to do that and you want to make sure you are doing at > least one of them. The source code is already provided by the distro distributed. A VM is just a repackaging of the distro, in its installed form. FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Solved -- Re: Mailman tutorial
On 11/25/2010 08:37 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 11/25/2010 10:35 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > >> Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> >> >>> I have never set up Apache to use a system with cgi-bin, it was >>> always automated for me. I can go on with 'new' stuff; that is why I >>> was looking for a RECENT tutorial (I am finding them for like >>> FC3-5). >>> >>> >> I usually find such howtos are filled with a lot of useless and/or >> incorrect information. Though not a lot has changed since FC5 (or >> even FC3) regarding mailman's setup. >> >> > Yes they vary a lot. I tried a vanilla setup on my notebook, and the > create list script ran. But on the server I want to run where I have to > use a virtual host, there I am getting problems. I do have the > beginnings of linking things in. I got a response from the mailman list and am now up and working. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Does it work for you? projectM pulseaudio visualization
Fedora 14 - http://bugzilla.redhat.com/652974 Test-case: 1) yum -y install projectM-pulseaudio 2) Applications > Sound & Video > projectM-pulseaudio 3) no animation, not even if music is played Does it work for you? If so, which graphics hardware and xorg-x11 driver is this with? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: End of life for FC12?
pe, 2010-11-26 kello 08:49 -0800, Joe Zeff kirjoitti: > On 11/25/2010 11:57 PM, Hiisi wrote: > > However with buggy flash > > (random crashes that causes hangups of X server) and kernel updates > > (which is not so frequently near the EOL of F12) I had to reboot it or > > even hard reboot every 5-10 days. > > Odd. I only reboot my desktop for kernel updates and I can remember f > 12 having updates of literally biblical proportions. I don't remember having to hard reboot this machine this month. By I've switched to firefox 4 which is much more stable than previous versions. -- > 1. is qmail as secure as they say? Depends on what they were saying, but most likely yes. -- Seen on debian-devel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Does it work for you? projectM pulseaudio visualization
On 26/11/10 17:11, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Fedora 14 - http://bugzilla.redhat.com/652974 > > Test-case: > > 1) yum -y install projectM-pulseaudio > 2) Applications> Sound& Video> projectM-pulseaudio > 3) no animation, not even if music is played > > Does it work for you? Yes - [b...@box9 ~]$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/purple/login.wav Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/login.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Stereo Results in a different display each time it is run. Not sure I see any use for this but it works here. > If so, which graphics hardware and xorg-x11 driver is this with? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Flash issues with FC14, rawhide kernel
2.6.36-5 I was trying flash on an FC14 system with Firefox, and running the 2.6.36-5 rawhide kernel (otherwise stock Fedora system). The flash player crashes a few seconds into playing a video. Flash works with the latest FC14 kernel, and with the rawhide kernel using seamonkey. Verified on a P4 desktop, Celeron laptop, and VM on i7-950 (KVM). just in case this is useful to someone, I don't think BZ wants a bug in non-Fedora application software since other Flash bugs are marked WONTFIX. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: End of life for FC12?
Patrick Bartek wrote: > --- On Thu, 11/25/10, Bill Davidsen wrote: > > >> Patrick Bartek wrote: >>> --- On Sun, 11/14/10, Bill Davidsen >> wrote: >>> Patrick Bartek wrote: > [snip] > > That's okay as long as the OS is "current" >> when it is installed and will be supported for those 5 years >> or so. (I'm not a cutting edge type of >> person. It matters little to me whether something is new or >> old as long as it works and satifies my requirements.) I >> wouldn't install, say, CentOS 5, on a new or old system >> today and not expect problems, either today or later. >> That's why I'm waiting for CentOS 6 or Debian 6, etc. to be >> released before doing anything to my current 4 year old >> system--Fedora 12 64-bit. > I will probably be using CentOS-5.5 or later until >> CentOS-7 comes out. RHEL6 is dropping xen, and the little utility boxes I seem >> to build for firewall or similar don't have HVM and can't support KVM. >> Hopefully xen will be back in mainline soon, and people will have a choice how >> they want to run things. >>> >>> I think you're SOL expecting XEN to be reinstated >> after being so resoundingly dropped in favor of KVM by >> Redhat. I vaguely remember reading a press release >> about it. >>> >>> Wait for CentOS 7? Going to be long wait. >> 5 years(?), at least. But patience _is_ a virtue. ;-) >>> >> If xen goes in mainline, and it is certainly on track to do >> so, then Fedora 15 >> (or 16 at the latest) may offer it again. It allows >> operation on processors >> which lack HVM, which is not only old gear (my Celeron >> systems and laptops), but >> alternate vendors, appliances, and misguided systems >> killing HVM in BIOS to meet >> MSFT license requirements. > > While trying to find the press release from RH about dropping XEN and why > (found this instead: > http://virtualization.info/en/news/2008/06/red-hat-adopts-kvm-what-happens-to-xen.html), > noted that RHEL 6 Final was release about 2 weeks ago, and the default > virtualization is KVM. Do you really think Red Hat is going to switch back > to XEN for 7 after all the work that went into finalizing 6? Of course, XEN > probably will be available as an alternative, but you'll have to recompile > the kernel. XEN is still listed in the F12 repo. > I don't think "switch back" is the right term, once the support is in mainline it becomes a few more builds in a sea of thousands, so it might be like PAE and non-PAE kernels. Having it allows use on additional machines, as the effort to have the capability goes down and the effort to remove or disable it goes up, the possibility goes up. There is a lot of stuff with a small user base in Fedora, and the users tend to be more diverse in their hardware (I'm being very polite here), so low effort support seems consistent with users vs. resources. And with all the effort which has gone into a better desktop, offering some solution to netbook users with no HVM has some justification. I have no crystal ball, but I own or support a fair number of netbooks. I have no thought that xen would continue as long as a custom kernel is needed, but once that's no longer the case, we'll see. >> Depending on what you run in a VM, there may be performance >> issues in xen vs >> HVM, harder to say with Linux, since it might run >> paravirtualized anyway. > > I used to run qemu and its accelerator load module with a stock kernel on a > 1GHz Duron machine with 1.5 GB RAM (Its max) in Slackware, Fedora Core 3, 4, > 5,& 6. It worked quite well, although, it wasn't in a server environment, > just experimentation. I hated having to multi-boot to test distros or run > Windows. To make a long story short, I never liked the way XEN was > implemented. > -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: End of life for FC12?
Andras Simon wrote: > On 11/25/10, Hiisi wrote: > >> To the topic: F12 seems to became more stable recently. My current >> uptime is 12 days, 14:55 which is remarkable for this specific >> configuration/hardware. > > [si...@pici dl]$ uptime > 01:23:47 up 309 days, 1:43, 7 users, load average: 0.26, 0.33, 0.27 > > On a puny netbook. Yes, F12 is pretty stable. > (I'm cheating a little, because this netbook goes to sleep every day. > But still...) Session time 20:02:09 on 11/26/10 www2:davidsen> uptime 20:02:18 up 1188 days, 2:36, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 OS: KRUD - based on FC3 No cheat, UPS and standby generator at home. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
edit multiple files under multiple directories/folders
Hi, In my home folder I have 6 tomcat directories under /home/kaushal/tomcat0..6 Under each of these tomcats there are sub folder conf and inside these conf there is a file by the name server.xml so for example I have tomcat0,tomcat1,tomcat2,tomcat3,tomcat4,tomcat5 so i need to edit server.xml and set port numbers for tomcat0 to 8080 tomcat1 to 8081 and similarly for others,the other way is to go to individual directory and do it Please suggest/guide Thanks and Regards Kaushal -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: edit multiple files under multiple directories/folders
On 27/11/10 03:42 AM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In my home folder I have 6 tomcat directories under
> /home/kaushal/tomcat0..6
>
> Under each of these tomcats there are sub folder conf and inside these conf
> there is a file by the name server.xml so for example I have
> tomcat0,tomcat1,tomcat2,tomcat3,tomcat4,tomcat5 so i need to edit server.xml
> and set port numbers for tomcat0 to 8080 tomcat1 to 8081 and similarly for
> others,the other way is to go to individual directory and do it
>
> Please suggest/guide
>
$ emacs ~/tomcat{0..6}/conf/server.xml &
The above should bring up emacs with a buffer showing the last file in
the list, and another buffer listing all the other buffers visiting the
other server.xml files. Of course if you prefer some other editor you
can use that instead of emacs.
> Thanks and Regards
>
Happy hacking.
> Kaushal
>
>
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Re: edit multiple files under multiple directories/folders
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Suvayu Ali
> wrote:
> On 27/11/10 03:42 AM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > In my home folder I have 6 tomcat directories under
> > /home/kaushal/tomcat0..6
> >
> > Under each of these tomcats there are sub folder conf and inside these
> conf
> > there is a file by the name server.xml so for example I have
> > tomcat0,tomcat1,tomcat2,tomcat3,tomcat4,tomcat5 so i need to edit
> server.xml
> > and set port numbers for tomcat0 to 8080 tomcat1 to 8081 and similarly
> for
> > others,the other way is to go to individual directory and do it
> >
> > Please suggest/guide
> >
>
> $ emacs ~/tomcat{0..6}/conf/server.xml &
>
> The above should bring up emacs with a buffer showing the last file in
> the list, and another buffer listing all the other buffers visiting the
> other server.xml files. Of course if you prefer some other editor you
> can use that instead of emacs.
>
> > Thanks and Regards
> >
>
> Happy hacking.
>
Hi Again,
I am comfortable using vim editor. Please suggest
Thanks
Kaushal
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Re: edit multiple files under multiple directories/folders
On 27/11/10 04:06 AM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
>> $ emacs ~/tomcat{0..6}/conf/server.xml&
>> >
>> > The above should bring up emacs with a buffer showing the last file in
>> > the list, and another buffer listing all the other buffers visiting the
>> > other server.xml files. Of course if you prefer some other editor you
>> > can use that instead of emacs.
>> >
>
> I am comfortable using vim editor. Please suggest
I just did! Doesn't replacing emacs with vim and removing the & at the
end work? I don't know anything about navigating buffers within vim, but
that should be possible.
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Re: Any Dittoheads out there?
Did you try the InfoRSS add-on in Firefox? It looks like you should be able to enter http://rss.premiereradio.net/rushlimb/podcast.xml and your subscription credentials on the Advanced tab in the Synchronization section. I'm not a subscriber, so I can't try it... but if he offers them in an RSS feed, it should be fairly easy to automate. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
