Re: [users@httpd] https redirection

2011-07-30 Thread fedora

I usually do redirections this way:

in the web http://abc.com
I insert into the  tag



somewhere in the javascripts for this page I have

function redix() {
	if (window.location.search != "")) 
window.location.replace("http://"+window.location.search)

}   // redix

suomi


On 2011-07-30 08:28, vishesh kumar wrote:

Hi Members

suppose i have a site https://abc.com and i want if anyone write
https://abc.com/xyz.com , it should redirected to https://xyz.com which
is one same server. Server wide certificate installed on server . Can
anyone please help in redirection

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Re: [users@httpd] https redirection

2011-07-30 Thread Jeroen Geilman

On 2011-07-30 08:28, vishesh kumar wrote:

Hi Members

suppose i have a site https://abc.com and i want if anyone write 
https://abc.com/xyz.com , it should redirected to https://xyz.com 
which is one same server.


Redirect Permanent /xyz.com/ https://xyz.com/

Server wide certificate installed on server . 


No.
If the domains hosted on this server are not in the same parent zone (as 
you have just shown) you cannot use one certificate for both domains.


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Re: [users@httpd] https redirection

2011-07-30 Thread Jeroen Geilman

On 2011-07-30 11:08, fedora wrote:

I usually do redirections this way:

in the web http://abc.com
I insert into the  tag



somewhere in the javascripts for this page I have

function redix() {
if (window.location.search != "")) 
window.location.replace("http://"+window.location.search)

}// redix




Do you understand you are replying to the apache httpd mailing list ?

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Re: [users@httpd] PHP files not being parsed in HTML pages

2011-07-30 Thread Jeroen Geilman

On 2011-07-30 06:41, Darryle Steplight wrote:

Trying adding this in your vhost, config file or .htaccess file

addHandler x-httpd-php5 .php .htm .html


Please get it right:


SetHandler application/x-httpd-php





On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Rob Stone  wrote:

Hello,

I have a working domain on a free LAMP hosting service. I thought it would
be a *good idea* if I set up a development environment on my Debian laptop.
Followed all the Debian specific stuff about setting it up and copied all my
files (html, php, js, css, etc.) into the /var/www directory. I also created
a new project and entered the appropriate lines into my httpd.conf file.
I can access my home page but NONE of the php is executed. It all works fine
on the host server.
I created a three line file to call phpinfo(),


That's 2 lines too many:

$echo "" > info.php


placed it into the new
project's directory and it displays all of the php directives. If I make an
alteration to the php.ini file and run it again you can see the change.

So, why does a simple file with phpinfo() work and an html page with an
include "xyz.php" NOT render the page as desired in the browser It just
ignores the include.


HTML does not have an "include" directive.
Please don't confuse PHP with HTML.


When I restart apache, this is what is entered in the error.log file.

[Sat Jul 30 13:14:04 2011] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Sat Jul 30 13:14:05 2011] [notice] Apache/2.2.17 (Debian) PHP/5.3.6-13 with
Suhosin-Patch configured -- resuming normal operations

Output of uname -a
Linux roblaptop 2.6.39-2-686-pae #1 SMP Wed Jun 8 11:33:14 UTC 2011 i686
GNU/Linux

When I run apachectl -M it shows php5_module (shared).


None of this is relevant, really - the fact that a php file gets 
executed is also proof of all of the above.



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Re: [users@httpd] PHP files not being parsed in HTML pages

2011-07-30 Thread Mark Rousell
On 30/07/2011 18:43, Jeroen Geilman wrote:
>>> So, why does a simple file with phpinfo() work and an html page with an
>>> include "xyz.php" NOT render the page as desired in the browser
>>> It just
>>> ignores the include.
> 
> HTML does not have an "include" directive.
> Please don't confuse PHP with HTML.

As an aside and for the avoidance of doubt, whilst they are not strictly
part of HTML, Server Side Includes (which include a #include directive)
are commonly available to plain HTML on many servers.

Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Side_Includes



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Re: [users@httpd] PHP files not being parsed in HTML pages

2011-07-30 Thread Jeroen Geilman

On 2011-07-30 20:06, Mark Rousell wrote:

On 30/07/2011 18:43, Jeroen Geilman wrote:

So, why does a simple file with phpinfo() work and an html page with an
include "xyz.php" NOT render the page as desired in the browser
It just
ignores the include.

HTML does not have an "include" directive.
Please don't confuse PHP with HTML.

As an aside and for the avoidance of doubt, whilst they are not strictly
part of HTML, Server Side Includes (which include a #include directive)
are commonly available to plain HTML on many servers.


No, not "plain HTML".
Server Side Includes execute server-side shell code, and these have to 
be configured on the server.

It has nothing to do with HTML.


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Re: [users@httpd] PHP files not being parsed in HTML pages

2011-07-30 Thread Mark Rousell
On 30/07/2011 19:54, Jeroen Geilman wrote:
> On 2011-07-30 20:06, Mark Rousell wrote:
>> On 30/07/2011 18:43, Jeroen Geilman wrote:
> So, why does a simple file with phpinfo() work and an html page
> with an
> include "xyz.php" NOT render the page as desired in the browser
> It just
> ignores the include.
>>> HTML does not have an "include" directive.
>>> Please don't confuse PHP with HTML.
>> As an aside and for the avoidance of doubt, whilst they are not strictly
>> part of HTML, Server Side Includes (which include a #include directive)
>> are commonly available to plain HTML on many servers.
> 
> Server Side Includes execute server-side shell code, and these have to
> be configured on the server.

Indeed so. The point in this context is where and how SSIs are accessed
by the website coder, and that is from within plain HTML. The fact that
they areexecuted by the server does not change this.

> It has nothing to do with HTML.

As I said, SSIs are not part of HTML. But in reality they are associated
with HTML.

As it says in the 'Apache Tutorial: Introduction to Server Side
Includes' at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/ssi.html :

SSI (Server Side Includes) are directives that are placed in
HTML pages, and evaluated on the server while the pages are
being served

> No, not "plain HTML".

Nevertheless, SSIs *are* accessed (both by the coder and by the server)
from what I can rationally only describe as plain HTML. Certainly, SSIs
are not themselves "plain HTML" but they are associated with "plain
HTML" and are placed within "plain HTML".

And so, whilst it is entirely true to say that HTML does not have an
"include" directive, it also true to say that HTML does have an
"include" directive available to it (i.e. available to the plain HTML
coder).

Anyway, enough splitting hairs.


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Re: [users@httpd] PHP files not being parsed in HTML pages

2011-07-30 Thread Jeroen Geilman

On 2011-07-30 23:21, Mark Rousell wrote:

On 30/07/2011 19:54, Jeroen Geilman wrote:

On 2011-07-30 20:06, Mark Rousell wrote:

On 30/07/2011 18:43, Jeroen Geilman wrote:

So, why does a simple file with phpinfo() work and an html page
with an
include "xyz.php" NOT render the page as desired in the browser
It just
ignores the include.

HTML does not have an "include" directive.
Please don't confuse PHP with HTML.

As an aside and for the avoidance of doubt, whilst they are not strictly
part of HTML, Server Side Includes (which include a #include directive)
are commonly available to plain HTML on many servers.

Server Side Includes execute server-side shell code, and these have to
be configured on the server.

Indeed so. The point in this context is where and how SSIs are accessed
by the website coder, and that is from within plain HTML. The fact that
they areexecuted by the server does not change this.


Why do you keep insisting that SSI has anything to do with HTML ?
It does not; it is a standard for executing shell code on-the-fly.


It has nothing to do with HTML.

As I said, SSIs are not part of HTML. But in reality they are associated
with HTML.


No, they're not.



As it says in the 'Apache Tutorial: Introduction to Server Side
Includes' at http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/ssi.html :


That's 10 years old.



SSI (Server Side Includes) are directives that are placed in
HTML pages, and evaluated on the server while the pages are
being served


Nothing there about SSI being intrinsically or otherwise "associated 
with" HTML.





No, not "plain HTML".

Nevertheless, SSIs *are* accessed (both by the coder and by the server)
from what I can rationally only describe as plain HTML. Certainly, SSIs
are not themselves "plain HTML" but they are associated with "plain
HTML" and are placed within "plain HTML".


Only the last is true.


And so, whilst it is entirely true to say that HTML does not have an
"include" directive, it also true to say that HTML does have an
"include" directive available to it (i.e. available to the plain HTML
coder).


No, that is plain false.
If the server does not support SSI, it will not parse it and return the 
HTML content as-is to the client.


Hence, it has NOTHING to do with HTML.

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Re: [users@httpd] PHP files not being parsed in HTML pages

2011-07-30 Thread Stormy

At 07:06 PM 7/30/2011 +0100, Mark Rousell wrote:

On 30/07/2011 18:43, Jeroen Geilman wrote:
>>> So, why does a simple file with phpinfo() work and an html page with an
>>> include "xyz.php" NOT render the page as desired in the browser
>>> It just
>>> ignores the include.
>
> HTML does not have an "include" directive.
> Please don't confuse PHP with HTML.

As an aside and for the avoidance of doubt, whilst they are not strictly
part of HTML,


SSI are *text* in a format that can be interpreted by an HTML client.


Server Side Includes (which include a #include directive)
are commonly available to plain HTML on many servers.


If php "includes" as output from the server (SSI) anything that cannot be 
parsed as HTML [or as HTML parsable script, js etc] by the client (browser) 
then it will not be "render[ed ...] as desired in the browser" which 
was the question in this thread.


"Servers" can send anything, invalid text/html from a php script, whatever 
... if the client browser cannot parse|interpret the content it is doomed 
to failure.


Best - Paul

Tired old sys-admin 



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Re: [users@httpd] PHP files not being parsed in HTML pages

2011-07-30 Thread Darryle Steplight
I can't figure out why these conversations keep going on. I thought
the answer was solved with Jeroen Geilman's answer. My answer was
slightly off.

On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Stormy  wrote:
> At 07:06 PM 7/30/2011 +0100, Mark Rousell wrote:
>>
>> On 30/07/2011 18:43, Jeroen Geilman wrote:
>> >>> So, why does a simple file with phpinfo() work and an html page with
>> >>> an
>> >>> include "xyz.php" NOT render the page as desired in the browser
>> >>> It just
>> >>> ignores the include.
>> >
>> > HTML does not have an "include" directive.
>> > Please don't confuse PHP with HTML.
>>
>> As an aside and for the avoidance of doubt, whilst they are not strictly
>> part of HTML,
>
> SSI are *text* in a format that can be interpreted by an HTML client.
>
>> Server Side Includes (which include a #include directive)
>> are commonly available to plain HTML on many servers.
>
> If php "includes" as output from the server (SSI) anything that cannot be
> parsed as HTML [or as HTML parsable script, js etc] by the client (browser)
> then it will not be "render[ed ...] as desired in the browser" which was
> the question in this thread.
>
> "Servers" can send anything, invalid text/html from a php script, whatever
> ... if the client browser cannot parse|interpret the content it is doomed to
> failure.
>
> Best - Paul
>
> Tired old sys-admin
>
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Re: [users@httpd] PHP files not being parsed in HTML pages

2011-07-30 Thread Jeroen Geilman

On 2011-07-30 23:33, Stormy wrote:

At 07:06 PM 7/30/2011 +0100, Mark Rousell wrote:

On 30/07/2011 18:43, Jeroen Geilman wrote:
>>> So, why does a simple file with phpinfo() work and an html page 
with an

>>> include "xyz.php" NOT render the page as desired in the browser
>>> It just
>>> ignores the include.
>
> HTML does not have an "include" directive.
> Please don't confuse PHP with HTML.

As an aside and for the avoidance of doubt, whilst they are not strictly
part of HTML,


SSI are *text* in a format that can be interpreted by an HTML client.


Incorrect.
SSI stands for SERVER-Side Includes.
The client, if it ever received such content, would not know what to do 
with it.





Server Side Includes (which include a #include directive)
are commonly available to plain HTML on many servers.


If php "includes" as output from the server (SSI)


PHP is not SSI.

anything that cannot be parsed as HTML [or as HTML parsable script, js 
etc] by the client (browser) then it will not be "render[ed ...] as 
desired in the browser" which was the question in this thread.


"Servers" can send anything, invalid text/html from a php script, 
whatever ... if the client browser cannot parse|interpret the content 
it is doomed to failure.


Best - Paul

Tired old sys-admin


I'm sorry to hear that.

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Re: [users@httpd] PHP files not being parsed in HTML pages

2011-07-30 Thread LabTech
Maybe I'm ancient... but I create ALL my HTML via ECHO in PHP... then all 
the includes WORK!
I set the entire HTML PAGE within  brackets. ECHO works! (as 
does INCLUDE)
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From: "Jeroen Geilman" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] PHP files not being parsed in HTML pages



On 2011-07-30 23:33, Stormy wrote:

At 07:06 PM 7/30/2011 +0100, Mark Rousell wrote:

On 30/07/2011 18:43, Jeroen Geilman wrote:
>>> So, why does a simple file with phpinfo() work and an html page
with an
>>> include "xyz.php" NOT render the page as desired in the browser
>>> It just
>>> ignores the include.
>
> HTML does not have an "include" directive.
> Please don't confuse PHP with HTML.

As an aside and for the avoidance of doubt, whilst they are not strictly
part of HTML,


SSI are *text* in a format that can be interpreted by an HTML client.


Incorrect.
SSI stands for SERVER-Side Includes.
The client, if it ever received such content, would not know what to do 
with it.





Server Side Includes (which include a #include directive)
are commonly available to plain HTML on many servers.


If php "includes" as output from the server (SSI)


PHP is not SSI.

anything that cannot be parsed as HTML [or as HTML parsable script, js 
etc] by the client (browser) then it will not be "render[ed ...] as 
desired in the browser" which was the question in this thread.


"Servers" can send anything, invalid text/html from a php script, 
whatever ... if the client browser cannot parse|interpret the content it 
is doomed to failure.


Best - Paul

Tired old sys-admin


I'm sorry to hear that.

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Re: [users@httpd] PHP files not being parsed in HTML pages

2011-07-30 Thread Rob Stone

On 31/07/11 08:11, LabTech wrote:

Maybe I'm ancient... but I create ALL my HTML via ECHO in PHP... then
all the includes WORK!
I set the entire HTML PAGE within  brackets. ECHO works! (as
does INCLUDE)
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Subject: Re: [users@httpd] PHP files not being parsed in HTML pages



On 2011-07-30 23:33, Stormy wrote:

At 07:06 PM 7/30/2011 +0100, Mark Rousell wrote:

On 30/07/2011 18:43, Jeroen Geilman wrote:
>>> So, why does a simple file with phpinfo() work and an html page
with an
>>> include "xyz.php" NOT render the page as desired in the browser
>>> It just
>>> ignores the include.
>
> HTML does not have an "include" directive.
> Please don't confuse PHP with HTML.

As an aside and for the avoidance of doubt, whilst they are not
strictly
part of HTML,


SSI are *text* in a format that can be interpreted by an HTML client.


Incorrect.
SSI stands for SERVER-Side Includes.
The client, if it ever received such content, would not know what to
do with it.




Server Side Includes (which include a #include directive)
are commonly available to plain HTML on many servers.


If php "includes" as output from the server (SSI)


PHP is not SSI.


anything that cannot be parsed as HTML [or as HTML parsable script,
js etc] by the client (browser) then it will not be "render[ed ...]
as desired in the browser" which was the question in this thread.

"Servers" can send anything, invalid text/html from a php script,
whatever ... if the client browser cannot parse|interpret the content
it is doomed to failure.

Best - Paul

Tired old sys-admin


I'm sorry to hear that.

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Sorry I have created such a discussion around my use of the word 
"include". In future I'll try to be semantically correct.


By "include" I mean lines of code like this that are embedded into the 
source html.




All of these files echo something back so if a user did a Ctl+U they 
would not see that "line" but html tags and data.
Some of my php files read a database and echo back something, even if it 
is only "no records found".


But when I access my application via localhost and do a Ctl+U, I see 
those lines and not html tags and data.


If apache2 can process a file containing  and display 
the contents of php.ini with colourful markup, is it using the php5 
"engine" or doing it all by itself??


Thanks for all of your suggestions.

Rob

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Re: [users@httpd] PHP files not being parsed in HTML pages

2011-07-30 Thread Jeroen Geilman

On 2011-07-31 00:54, Rob Stone wrote:



Sorry I have created such a discussion around my use of the word 
"include". In future I'll try to be semantically correct.


By "include" I mean lines of code like this that are embedded into the 
source html.





And that's exactly the point - it's not "including" anything in the HTML 
file.
It parses and executes the PHP code embedded in the HTML file, and that 
PHP code contains a command that includes *other* PHP code.


Nowhere does anything get included in an HTML file.



All of these files echo something back so if a user did a Ctl+U they 
would not see that "line" but html tags and data.
Some of my php files read a database and echo back something, even if 
it is only "no records found".


But when I access my application via localhost and do a Ctl+U, I see 
those lines and not html tags and data.


If apache2 can process a file containing  and 
display the contents of php.ini with colourful markup, is it using the 
php5 "engine" or doing it all by itself??


Apache does not process these embedded commands; that is all done by PHP.

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