Re: Safari/iOS issues on Openmeetings v5.0.0

2020-07-28 Thread Alvaro 
OSX  10.15.6  --  Safari 13.1.2  --  Private room  ==>  No green bar
mic 
In one hour will test other safari versions.





El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit https://om.alteametasoft
> .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as expected
> in Safari browser (11+)
> Thanks in advance :))
> 
> @Sebastian,
> It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not sure It should
> be added to OM UI 
> Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and maintain ...
> 
> 
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com  l.com> wrote:
> > If it's just limited to Safari13 then its prob fine.
> > Will we issue a warning though somehow?
> > 
> > The experience for a brand new user trying it for the first time
> > usually means they consider the application not ready and they
> > won't try again.
> > 
> > So having some warning saying "Safari13 is currently only beta
> > support" it would definitely help a lot to manage those users not
> > getting angry!
> > 
> > We could just add a simple warning info text on the login page for
> > example?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Seb
> > 
> > Sebastian Wagner
> > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro  wrote:
> > > Yes, release as-is...
> > > 
> > > .
> > > 
> > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound at
> > > > Safari 13And this might give as some insight of what can be
> > > > improved
> > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow)
> > > > 
> > > > @All,
> > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ trying to
> > > > investigate Safari 11 ?
> > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com  > > > r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > No but the generic test application at https://webrtc.github.
> > > > > io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/ seems to work
> > > > > better now after restarting my Mac.
> > > > > However the OpenMeetings application setup application seems
> > > > > to not do much when recording the stream.
> > > > > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled.
> > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using
> > > > > Safari13 and enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome
> > > > > however works fine.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Seb
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik  > > > > ail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC"
> > > > > > submenu in "Develop" menuDo you have it on Safari 13?
> > > > > > Can you "play" with options?
> > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wag...@gmail.com  > > > > > ag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for
> > > > > > > audio/video:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Safa
> > > > > > > ri_11
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >    - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 video and
> > > > > > > audio
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >    - Adds support for new web technologies such as WebRTC
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >    , Media Capture
> > > > > > > API, Resource
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >    Timing API, WebAssembly  > > > > > > /WebAssembly>,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >    variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63]
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >     > > > > > > cite_note-63>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot of changes
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release-
> > > > > > > notes/safari-13-release-notes
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, would be good to
> > > > > > > get a few more
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > users to confirm on Safari13.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > If the issue is really a generic Safari13 limitation or
> > > > > > > not.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Seb
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  > > > > > > 6f-49033f10d60a/public_url>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  > > > > > > af

Re: Safari/iOS issues on Openmeetings v5.0.0

2020-07-28 Thread Maxim Solodovnik 
Hello Alvaro,

Please re-read my message

=
Hello Safari owners :)
Could you please visit
https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it
works as expected in Safari browser (11+)
Thanks in advance :))
=

Could you please test this page with all Safari versions starting with 11?


On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro  wrote:

> OSX  10.15.6  --  Safari 13.1.2  --  Private room  ==>  No green bar
> mic
> In one hour will test other safari versions.
>
> 
>
>
>
> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit https://om.alteametasoft
> > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as expected
> > in Safari browser (11+)
> > Thanks in advance :))
> >
> > @Sebastian,
> > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not sure It should
> > be added to OM UI 
> > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and maintain ...
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com  > l.com> wrote:
> > > If it's just limited to Safari13 then its prob fine.
> > > Will we issue a warning though somehow?
> > >
> > > The experience for a brand new user trying it for the first time
> > > usually means they consider the application not ready and they
> > > won't try again.
> > >
> > > So having some warning saying "Safari13 is currently only beta
> > > support" it would definitely help a lot to manage those users not
> > > getting angry!
> > >
> > > We could just add a simple warning info text on the login page for
> > > example?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Seb
> > >
> > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro  wrote:
> > > > Yes, release as-is...
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound at
> > > > > Safari 13And this might give as some insight of what can be
> > > > > improved
> > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow)
> > > > >
> > > > > @All,
> > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ trying to
> > > > > investigate Safari 11 ?
> > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com  > > > > r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > No but the generic test application at https://webrtc.github.
> > > > > > io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/ seems to work
> > > > > > better now after restarting my Mac.
> > > > > > However the OpenMeetings application setup application seems
> > > > > > to not do much when recording the stream.
> > > > > > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled.
> > > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using
> > > > > > Safari13 and enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome
> > > > > > however works fine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Seb
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik  > > > > > ail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC"
> > > > > > > submenu in "Develop" menuDo you have it on Safari 13?
> > > > > > > Can you "play" with options?
> > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wag...@gmail.com  > > > > > > ag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for
> > > > > > > > audio/video:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Safa
> > > > > > > > ri_11
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >- Includes updated media controls for HTML5 video and
> > > > > > > > audio
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >- Adds support for new web technologies such as WebRTC
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >, Media Capture
> > > > > > > > API, Resource
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Timing API, WebAssembly  > > > > > > > /WebAssembly>,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cite_note-63>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot of changes
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release-
> > > > > > > > notes/safari-13-release-notes
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, would be good to
> > > > > > > > get a few more
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > users to confirm on Safari13.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If the

Re: Safari/iOS issues on Openmeetings v5.0.0

2020-07-28 Thread Alvaro 
...am updatimg the OSes OSX.

Sorry to read only the first parte of the url.




El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 18:54 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> Hello Alvaro,
> Please re-read my message 
> 
> =
> Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit https://om.alteametasoft
> .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as expected
> in Safari browser (11+)
> Thanks in advance :))
> =
> 
> Could you please test this page with all Safari versions starting
> with 11?
> 
> 
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro  wrote:
> > OSX  10.15.6  --  Safari 13.1.2  --  Private room  ==>  No green
> > bar
> > 
> > mic 
> > 
> > In one hour will test other safari versions.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > 
> > > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit https://om.alteameta
> > soft
> > 
> > > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as
> > expected
> > 
> > > in Safari browser (11+)
> > 
> > > Thanks in advance :))
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > @Sebastian,
> > 
> > > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not sure It
> > should
> > 
> > > be added to OM UI 
> > 
> > > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and maintain
> > ...
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > 
> > 
> > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com  > gmai
> > 
> > > l.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > If it's just limited to Safari13 then its prob fine.
> > 
> > > > Will we issue a warning though somehow?
> > 
> > > > 
> > 
> > > > The experience for a brand new user trying it for the first
> > time
> > 
> > > > usually means they consider the application not ready and they
> > 
> > > > won't try again.
> > 
> > > > 
> > 
> > > > So having some warning saying "Safari13 is currently only beta
> > 
> > > > support" it would definitely help a lot to manage those users
> > not
> > 
> > > > getting angry!
> > 
> > > > 
> > 
> > > > We could just add a simple warning info text on the login page
> > for
> > 
> > > > example?
> > 
> > > > 
> > 
> > > > Thanks
> > 
> > > > Seb
> > 
> > > > 
> > 
> > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > 
> > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > 
> > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > 
> > > > 
> > 
> > > > 
> > 
> > > > 
> > 
> > > > 
> > 
> > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Yes, release as-is...
> > 
> > > > > 
> > 
> > > > > .
> > 
> > > > > 
> > 
> > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik
> > escribió:
> > 
> > > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound at
> > 
> > > > > > Safari 13And this might give as some insight of what can be
> > 
> > > > > > improved
> > 
> > > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow)
> > 
> > > > > > 
> > 
> > > > > > @All,
> > 
> > > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ trying to
> > 
> > > > > > investigate Safari 11 ?
> > 
> > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com
> >  > 
> > > > > > r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > > > > No but the generic test application at https://webrtc.git
> > hub.
> > 
> > > > > > > io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/ seems to work
> > 
> > > > > > > better now after restarting my Mac.
> > 
> > > > > > > However the OpenMeetings application setup application
> > seems
> > 
> > > > > > > to not do much when recording the stream.
> > 
> > > > > > > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled.
> > 
> > > > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using
> > 
> > > > > > > Safari13 and enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome
> > 
> > > > > > > however works fine.
> > 
> > > > > > > 
> > 
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > 
> > > > > > > Seb
> > 
> > > > > > > 
> > 
> > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > 
> > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > 
> > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > 
> > > > > > > 
> > 
> > > > > > > 
> > 
> > > > > > > 
> > 
> > > > > > > 
> > 
> > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik  > 6@gm
> > 
> > > > > > > ail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC"
> > 
> > > > > > > > submenu in "Develop" menuDo you have it on Safari 13?
> > 
> > > > > > > > Can you "play" with options?
> > 
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wag...@gmail.com
> >  > 
> > > > > > > > ag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for
> > 
> > > > > > > > > audio/video:
> > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > 
> > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#
> > Safa
> > 
> > > > > > > > > ri_11
> > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > 
> > > > > > > > >    - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 video
> > and
> > 
> > > > > > > > > audio
> > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > 
> > > > > > > > >    - Adds support for new web technologies such as
> > Web

Re: Safari/iOS issues on Openmeetings v5.0.0

2020-07-28 Thread Alvaro 
Ok, here is my test in:
> > https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings

# OSX 10.11.6  - Safari 11.1.2  -  Cam yes -  Mic green bar NO
When try recording appear a red message: 
OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields
Can't record (play)
===

# OSX 10.12.6  -  Safari 12.0.2  -  Cam yes - Mic green bar YES
When try recording appear a red message: 

OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields


Can't record (play)


===




# OSX 10.13.6  -  Safari 12.1.2  -  Cam yes - Mic green bar YES
Can't record (play)
===

# OSX 10.14.6  -  Safari 13.1.2  -  Cam yes - Mic green bar NO
Can't record (play)
===

# OSX 10.15.6  -  Safari 13.1.2  -   Cam yes - Mic green bar NO
Can't record (play)


===


Well Maxim, if is needed to test in any other way, please tell me,
but with words that those have not the tecnical knowting, like
me, can understand.






-









El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 14:41 +0200, Alvaro escribió:
> ...am updatimg the OSes OSX.
> Sorry to read only the first parte of the url.
> 
> 
> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 18:54 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > Hello Alvaro,
> > Please re-read my message 
> > 
> > =
> > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit https://om.alteametaso
> > ft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as
> > expected in Safari browser (11+)
> > Thanks in advance :))
> > =
> > 
> > Could you please test this page with all Safari versions starting
> > with 11?
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro  wrote:
> > > OSX  10.15.6  --  Safari 13.1.2  --  Private room  ==>  No green
> > > bar
> > > 
> > > mic 
> > > 
> > > In one hour will test other safari versions.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > > 
> > > > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit https://om.alteame
> > > tasoft
> > > 
> > > > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as
> > > expected
> > > 
> > > > in Safari browser (11+)
> > > 
> > > > Thanks in advance :))
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > @Sebastian,
> > > 
> > > > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not sure It
> > > should
> > > 
> > > > be added to OM UI 
> > > 
> > > > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and
> > > maintain ...
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com  > > r@gmai
> > > 
> > > > l.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > If it's just limited to Safari13 then its prob fine.
> > > 
> > > > > Will we issue a warning though somehow?
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > The experience for a brand new user trying it for the first
> > > time
> > > 
> > > > > usually means they consider the application not ready and
> > > they
> > > 
> > > > > won't try again.
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > So having some warning saying "Safari13 is currently only
> > > beta
> > > 
> > > > > support" it would definitely help a lot to manage those users
> > > not
> > > 
> > > > > getting angry!
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > We could just add a simple warning info text on the login
> > > page for
> > > 
> > > > > example?
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > > > Seb
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > 
> > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > > 
> > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro 
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > > Yes, release as-is...
> > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > > .
> > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik
> > > escribió:
> > > 
> > > > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound at
> > > 
> > > > > > > Safari 13And this might give as some insight of what can
> > > be
> > > 
> > > > > > > improved
> > > 
> > > > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow)
> > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > > > @All,
> > > 
> > > > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ trying
> > > to
> > > 
> > > > > > > investigate Safari 11 ?
> > > 
> > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com
> > >  > > 
> > > > > > > r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > > > > No but the generic test application at https://webrtc.g
> > > ithub.
> > > 
> > > > > > > > io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/ seems to
> > > work
> > > 
> > > > > > > > better now after restarting my Mac.
> > > 
> > > > > > > > However the OpenMeetings application setup application
> > > seems
> > > 
> > > > > > > > to not do much when recording the stream.
> > > 
> > > > > > > > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled.
> > > 
> > > > > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device

Re: Safari/iOS issues on Openmeetings v5.0.0

2020-07-28 Thread Alvaro 
...'ve reloaded the page many times and no changes resultat.


.



El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 16:11 +0200, Alvaro escribió:
> Ok, here is my test in:
> > > https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings
> 
> # OSX 10.11.6  - Safari 11.1.2  -  Cam yes -  Mic green bar NO
> When try recording appear a red message: 
> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields
> Can't record (play)
> ===
> 
> # OSX 10.12.6  -  Safari 12.0.2  -  Cam yes - Mic green bar YES
> When try recording appear a red message: 
> 
> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields
> 
> 
> Can't record (play)
> 
> 
> ===
> 
> 
> 
> 
> # OSX 10.13.6  -  Safari 12.1.2  -  Cam yes - Mic green bar YES
> Can't record (play)
> ===
> 
> # OSX 10.14.6  -  Safari 13.1.2  -  Cam yes - Mic green bar NO
> Can't record (play)
> ===
> 
> # OSX 10.15.6  -  Safari 13.1.2  -   Cam yes - Mic green bar NO
> Can't record (play)
> 
> 
> ===
> 
> 
> Well Maxim, if is needed to test in any other way, please tell me,
> but with words that those have not the tecnical knowting, like
> me, can understand.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 14:41 +0200, Alvaro escribió:
> > ...am updatimg the OSes OSX.
> > Sorry to read only the first parte of the url.
> > 
> > 
> > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 18:54 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > > Hello Alvaro,
> > > Please re-read my message 
> > > 
> > > =
> > > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit https://om.alteameta
> > > soft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as
> > > expected in Safari browser (11+)
> > > Thanks in advance :))
> > > =
> > > 
> > > Could you please test this page with all Safari versions starting
> > > with 11?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro  wrote:
> > > > OSX  10.15.6  --  Safari 13.1.2  --  Private room  ==>  No
> > > > green bar
> > > > 
> > > > mic 
> > > > 
> > > > In one hour will test other safari versions.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik
> > > > escribió:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit https://om.altea
> > > > metasoft
> > > > 
> > > > > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as
> > > > expected
> > > > 
> > > > > in Safari browser (11+)
> > > > 
> > > > > Thanks in advance :))
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > @Sebastian,
> > > > 
> > > > > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not sure It
> > > > should
> > > > 
> > > > > be added to OM UI 
> > > > 
> > > > > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and
> > > > maintain ...
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com  > > > ner@gmai
> > > > 
> > > > > l.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > > If it's just limited to Safari13 then its prob fine.
> > > > 
> > > > > > Will we issue a warning though somehow?
> > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > The experience for a brand new user trying it for the first
> > > > time
> > > > 
> > > > > > usually means they consider the application not ready and
> > > > they
> > > > 
> > > > > > won't try again.
> > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > So having some warning saying "Safari13 is currently only
> > > > beta
> > > > 
> > > > > > support" it would definitely help a lot to manage those
> > > > users not
> > > > 
> > > > > > getting angry!
> > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > We could just add a simple warning info text on the login
> > > > page for
> > > > 
> > > > > > example?
> > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > > > Seb
> > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > 
> > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > > > 
> > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > > > Yes, release as-is...
> > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > > .
> > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik
> > > > escribió:
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound
> > > > at
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > Safari 13And this might give as some insight of what
> > > > can be
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > improved
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow)
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > @All,
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+
> > > > trying to
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > investigate Safari 11 ?
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.c

Re: Safari/iOS issues on Openmeetings v5.0.0

2020-07-28 Thread seba.wag...@gmail.com 
Could you try also some of the official examples from:
https://webrtc.github.io/samples/

For example:
https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/
or
https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/

You will notice on Chrome you will get an immediate feedback loop (which is
quite annoying :)) But it actually means that it works! It does playback
the sound directly again, and if you are not using a headset, it will lead
to a audio-feedback loop/noise.

On Safari I have limited success with those. But they still seem to work.

Thanks,
Sebastian

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/




On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 02:44, Alvaro  wrote:

> ...'ve reloaded the page many times and no changes resultat.
>
>
> .
>
>
>
> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 16:11 +0200, Alvaro escribió:
>
> Ok, here is my test in:
>
> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings
>
>
>
> *#* OSX *10.11.6* - Safari *11.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO*
>
> When try recording appear a red message:
>
> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields
>
> Can't record (play)
>
> ===
>
>
> *#* OSX *10.12.6* - Safari *12.0.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES*
>
> When try recording appear a red message:
>
> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields
>
> Can't record (play)
>
> ===
>
>
> *# *OSX *10.13.6* - Safari *12.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES*
>
> Can't record (play)
>
> ===
>
>
> *# *OSX *10.14.6 * - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO*
>
> Can't record (play)
>
> ===
>
>
> *#* OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO*
>
> Can't record (play)
>
> ===
>
> Well Maxim, if is needed to test in any other way, please tell me,
> but with words that those have not the tecnical knowting, like
> me, can understand.
>
>
>
> -
>
>
>
>
>
>
> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 14:41 +0200, Alvaro escribió:
>
> ...am updatimg the OSes OSX.
>
> Sorry to read only the first parte of the url.
>
>
> 
>
> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 18:54 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>
> Hello Alvaro,
>
> Please re-read my message
>
> =
> Hello Safari owners :)
> Could you please visit
> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is
> it works as expected in Safari browser (11+)
> Thanks in advance :))
> =
>
> Could you please test this page with all Safari versions starting with 11?
>
>
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro  wrote:
>
> OSX  10.15.6  --  Safari 13.1.2  --  Private room  ==>  No green bar
> mic
> In one hour will test other safari versions.
>
> 
>
>
>
> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit https://om.alteametasoft
> > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as expected
> > in Safari browser (11+)
> > Thanks in advance :))
> >
> > @Sebastian,
> > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not sure It should
> > be added to OM UI 
> > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and maintain ...
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com  > l.com> wrote:
> > > If it's just limited to Safari13 then its prob fine.
> > > Will we issue a warning though somehow?
> > >
> > > The experience for a brand new user trying it for the first time
> > > usually means they consider the application not ready and they
> > > won't try again.
> > >
> > > So having some warning saying "Safari13 is currently only beta
> > > support" it would definitely help a lot to manage those users not
> > > getting angry!
> > >
> > > We could just add a simple warning info text on the login page for
> > > example?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Seb
> > >
> > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro  wrote:
> > > > Yes, release as-is...
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound at
> > > > > Safari 13And this might give as some insight of what can be
> > > > > improved
> > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow)
> > > > >
> > > > > @All,
> > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ trying to
> > > > > investigate Safari 11 ?
> > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com  > > > > r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > No but the generic test application at https://webrtc.github.
> > > > > > io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/ seems to work
> > > > > > better now after restarting my Mac.
> > > > > > However the

Re: Safari/iOS issues on Openmeetings v5.0.0

2020-07-28 Thread Alvaro 
Hello Sebastian,
Could you please be a little more explicite?
Each OSX in my iMac it is installed on a phiyical hard drivepartition,
then i must reboot the machine to go from one toother OSX, and that is
a little heavy.
So, could you say me in wich OSX you want i make the test,with what
browser and what examples in concret?
There is around 43 examples. 43X6 = 258 test (6 are my OSXesin the
iMac, is also Yosemite).
Please tell me, and with pleasure i wil make the testing.


...


El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 09:16 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
> Could you try also some of the official examples from: https://webrtc
> .github.io/samples/
> For example:
> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/
> or
> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/
> 
> You will notice on Chrome you will get an immediate feedback loop
> (which is quite annoying :)) But it actually means that it works! It
> does playback the sound directly again, and if you are not using a
> headset, it will lead to a audio-feedback loop/noise.
> 
> On Safari I have limited success with those. But they still seem to
> work.
> 
> Thanks,
> Sebastian
> 
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 02:44, Alvaro  wrote:
> > ...'ve reloaded the page many times and no changes resultat.
> > 
> > .
> > 
> > 
> > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 16:11 +0200, Alvaro escribió:
> > > Ok, here is my test in:
> > > > > https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings
> > > 
> > > # OSX 10.11.6  - Safari 11.1.2  -  Cam yes -  Mic green bar NO
> > > When try recording appear a red message: 
> > > OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields
> > > Can't record (play)
> > > ===
> > > 
> > > # OSX 10.12.6  -  Safari 12.0.2  -  Cam yes - Mic green bar YES
> > > When try recording appear a red message: 
> > > 
> > > OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Can't record (play)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ===
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > # OSX 10.13.6  -  Safari 12.1.2  -  Cam yes - Mic green bar YES
> > > Can't record (play)
> > > ===
> > > 
> > > # OSX 10.14.6  -  Safari 13.1.2  -  Cam yes - Mic green bar NO
> > > Can't record (play)
> > > ===
> > > 
> > > # OSX 10.15.6  -  Safari 13.1.2  -   Cam yes - Mic green bar NO
> > > Can't record (play)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ===
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Well Maxim, if is needed to test in any other way, please tell
> > > me,
> > > but with words that those have not the tecnical knowting, like
> > > me, can understand.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 14:41 +0200, Alvaro escribió:
> > > > ...am updatimg the OSes OSX.
> > > > Sorry to read only the first parte of the url.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 18:54 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik
> > > > escribió:
> > > > > Hello Alvaro,
> > > > > Please re-read my message 
> > > > > 
> > > > > =
> > > > > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit https://om.altea
> > > > > metasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it
> > > > > works as expected in Safari browser (11+)
> > > > > Thanks in advance :))
> > > > > =
> > > > > 
> > > > > Could you please test this page with all Safari versions
> > > > > starting with 11?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > OSX  10.15.6  --  Safari 13.1.2  --  Private room  ==>  No
> > > > > > green bar
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > mic 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In one hour will test other safari versions.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik
> > > > > > escribió:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit https://om.a
> > > > > > lteametasoft
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works
> > > > > > as expected
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > in Safari browser (11+)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance :))
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > @Sebastian,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not
> > > > > > sure It should
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > be added to OM UI 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and
> > > > > > maintain ...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com  > > > > > .wagner@gmai
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > l.com> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > If it's just limited to Safari13 then its p

Re: Safari/iOS issues on Openmeetings v5.0.0

2020-07-28 Thread seba.wag...@gmail.com 
Oh sure!

I am just interested in - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO*

If you test with those additionally on
https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/

and check if you get some feedback loop (that means its working!)

@Maxim Solodovnik   from my tests actually my Safari
works fine with some of those webRTC examples. Still very strange how old
Safari versions would work and later ones don't!
I am still not sure if this issue is related to an API change in Safari, or
if there something wrong with how OpenMeetings is using the API (and
Safari13 exposing that in some way).

Thanks,
Seb

Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/




On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:46, Alvaro  wrote:

> Hello Sebastian,
>
> Could you please be a little more explicite?
>
> Each OSX in my iMac it is installed on a phiyical hard drive
> partition, then i must reboot the machine to go from one to
> other OSX, and that is a little heavy.
>
> So, could you say me in wich OSX you want i make the test,
> with what browser and what examples in concret?
>
> There is around 43 examples. 43X6 = 258 test (6 are my OSXes
> in the iMac, is also Yosemite).
>
> Please tell me, and with pleasure i wil make the testing.
>
>
>
> ...
>
>
>
> El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 09:16 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>
> Could you try also some of the official examples from:
> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/
>
> For example:
> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/
> or
> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/
>
> You will notice on Chrome you will get an immediate feedback loop (which
> is quite annoying :)) But it actually means that it works! It does playback
> the sound directly again, and if you are not using a headset, it will lead
> to a audio-feedback loop/noise.
>
> On Safari I have limited success with those. But they still seem to work.
>
> Thanks,
> Sebastian
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>
> 
> 
>
>
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 02:44, Alvaro  wrote:
>
> ...'ve reloaded the page many times and no changes resultat.
>
>
> .
>
>
>
> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 16:11 +0200, Alvaro escribió:
>
> Ok, here is my test in:
>
> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings
>
>
>
> *#* OSX *10.11.6* - Safari *11.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO*
>
> When try recording appear a red message:
>
> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields
>
> Can't record (play)
>
> ===
>
>
> *#* OSX *10.12.6* - Safari *12.0.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES*
>
> When try recording appear a red message:
>
> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields
>
> Can't record (play)
>
> ===
>
>
> *# *OSX *10.13.6* - Safari *12.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES*
>
> Can't record (play)
>
> ===
>
>
> *# *OSX *10.14.6 * - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO*
>
> Can't record (play)
>
> ===
>
>
> *#* OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO*
>
> Can't record (play)
>
> ===
>
> Well Maxim, if is needed to test in any other way, please tell me,
> but with words that those have not the tecnical knowting, like
> me, can understand.
>
>
>
> -
>
>
>
>
>
>
> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 14:41 +0200, Alvaro escribió:
>
> ...am updatimg the OSes OSX.
>
> Sorry to read only the first parte of the url.
>
>
> 
>
> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 18:54 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>
> Hello Alvaro,
>
> Please re-read my message
>
> =
> Hello Safari owners :)
> Could you please visit
> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is
> it works as expected in Safari browser (11+)
> Thanks in advance :))
> =
>
> Could you please test this page with all Safari versions starting with 11?
>
>
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro  wrote:
>
> OSX  10.15.6  --  Safari 13.1.2  --  Private room  ==>  No green bar
> mic
> In one hour will test other safari versions.
>
> 
>
>
>
> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit https://om.alteametasoft
> > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as expected
> > in Safari browser (11+)
> > Thanks in advance :))
> >
> > @Sebastian,
> > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not sure It should
> > be added to OM UI 
> > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and maintain ...
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Jul 202