Re: Our first Community Zoom Session

[Jim MacConnell via use-livecode]

It goes the other way. We’re earlier in the day in PST…. 8 hours I believe.
Jim

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 9:34 AM, doc hawk via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think the that’s midnight PST . . .
> 
> Also, I would ask that you to *not* submit our email address to zoom, but 
> instead send the code to the lit, or by your own servers to our email—it came 
> out in the last couple of days that, just a zoom was nearing a whole week 
> without  a new security or privacy sue, that they’d globe email in a way to 
> make them accessible . . .
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2020, at 3:31 AM, Heather Laine via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear list folks,
>> 
>> I have now scheduled our first zoom meeting, open to anyone who wishes to 
>> discuss LiveCode, share hints and tips and see a friendly face during this 
>> period of isolation for many. I will be there in a moderation capacity, to 
>> facilitate discussion. Panos will be joining me to help out. The actual 
>> debate, discussion, conversation and topics is down to you guys and gals! 
>> Come along and bring a topic you'd like to share/learn information on. Just 
>> to reiterate, the usual list rules apply: we're talking LiveCode, we're not 
>> talking religion or politics, and cheese should be kept to a minimum :)
>> 
>> To give us an idea of numbers and how to best manage the meeting, I have 
>> turned on registration for this meeting, so you can click on the link below 
>> to register. It would be helpful if you can do this in advance. The meeting 
>> will be tomorrow, Friday 3rd April, at 4pm UK time, (we've just switched to 
>> Summer Time here). To see what time that is for you, please go here:
>> 
>> https://www.timeanddate.com/ 
>> 
>> or just click the registration link and you will be able to specify a 
>> timezone to see what time it will be for you.
>> 
>> The invitation:
>> 
>> You are invited to a Zoom meeting. 
>> 
>> When: Apr 3, 2020 04:00 PM London 
>> 
>> Register in advance for this meeting:
>> 
>> https://zoom.us/meeting/register/v50kdeGuqjstQaRWOduQAUs31lqtQJOVdA 
>> 
>> After registering, you will receive a confirmation email containing 
>> information about joining the meeting.
>> 
>> Warm Regards, and see you tomorrow!
>> 
>> Heather
>> 
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>> 
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Re: Mouse messages in scrollers

[Jim MacConnell via use-livecode]

I don't have an answer and hope someone else does. I hate my workaround.
My workaround is to leave a space on either side of the field (45 px or so.. 
haven't tried to minimize). 
After the user gets frustrated enough, they end to do a swipe near the edge of 
the screen (across the blank space and not starting in the field) and that I 
can trap for and make work.
Once they’ve done it once or twice, they routinely go to the edge of the screen 
to swipe and it becomes natural. 
Jim

> On May 19, 2020, at 2:21 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a tall field inside a shorter group that uses a mobile scroller. A 
> behavior assigned to the group handles the scrolling and checks for swipes by 
> capturing mouseDown and mouseUp to determine touch locations so it can 
> calculate the direction of the swipe. This works on Android.
> 
> On iOS I do not get mouseUp or mouseDown messages when swiping horizontally, 
> though I do get scrolerDidScroll when swiping vertically. But since the group 
> is exactly as wide as the field it encloses, it does not scroll horizontally 
> and so no scrollerDidScroll message is sent. I also do not get 
> scrollerBegin/EndDrag, touchStart or touchEnd, or any other message I can 
> think of to track a horizontal swipe. I do get mouseUp/Down when tapping on 
> the scroller but that doesn't help here.
> 
> How would I detect a horizontal swipe on a non-moving scroller? The user 
> can't navigate without it.
> 
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Re: Stack with the same name loop

[Jim MacConnell via use-livecode]

+1

> On Oct 6, 2021, at 10:24 AM, Tom Glod via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> LOL. me too whenever I get this, I just unplug my comp from the
> wall, leave the room, wait for 5 minutes  and only then try again. :D
> 
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 1:18 PM Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Good question. I have no idea either.
>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Can someone give the definitive answer as to what to choose when I save
>> my
>>> stack with a save as to create a new iterative version and it comes up
>> with
>>> the prompt :
>>> A stack with the same name as the one you are trying to load is
>>> already open.
>>>   SavePurgeCancel
>>> 
>>> Whatever I do it ends up in a loop of asking this. I'm bored of having to
>>> force close LC to get over this. What is supposed to happen if I press
>>> Save? What is supposed to happen if I press Purge? And what about Cancel?
>>> I've never understood the need for purge AND save. Purge from what? Save
>>> and close? purge and close? It's just not clear to me as a long time user
>>> let alone a new user.
>>> 
>>> Btw, just to avoid unnecessary responses, I already know I can just make
>> a
>>> copy in the finder, clear LC memory and load that one in. My question is
>>> just trying to get an understanding of this prompt.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
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Re: Xcode and Catalina **NEW MBP**

[Jim MacConnell via use-livecode]

Am I understanding correctly?
There is a way to get Xcode 12.5 running on Monterey?
Will this satisfy the LC requirements?
Jim

> On Nov 16, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Apple did it again. It looks like only Xcode 13 will run on Monterey. Looks
> can be deceiving. If you activate Xcode 12.5.x from the command line it will
> start.
> 
> 
> Ralph DiMola
> IT Director
> Evergreen Information Services
> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
> Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 7:01 PM
> To: How to use LiveCode
> Cc: Mike Kerner
> Subject: Re: Xcode and Catalina **NEW MBP**
> 
> Ralph,
> I said "Catalina" when I meant "Monterey".
> It's a new MBP, and no versions of XC before 13.1 will run on it.
> I used a restore from Time Machine to get the machine set up, so all of the
> old XCodes that I had moved over, but none of the command-line tools seem to
> work.
> #firstWorldProblems
> 
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 1:22 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> From 9.6.5 Release notes.
>> 
>>  - macOS 10.15.4: Xcode 12.4.x - LiveCode builds iOS apps using the 
>> iOS
>> 14.4 SDK
>> 
>> There is a full list of working LiveCode/macOS/Xcode combinations here:
>> https://livecode.com/docs/9-5-0/faq/faq/
>> 
>> Important: From the start of April 2021, Apple is only accepting apps 
>> built using iOS14.x SDKs. This means that, if you wish to submit apps 
>> to the AppStore you will have to be running at least macOS 10.15 in 
>> order to be able to install the necessary version of Xcode.
>> 
>> Ralph DiMola
>> IT Director
>> Evergreen Information Services
>> rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 12:21 PM
>> To: How to use LiveCode
>> Cc: Mike Kerner
>> Subject: xcode and catalina **NEW MBP**
>> 
>> Has anyone gotten LC/XC to work on a new mac that came with catalina 
>> pre-installed?
>> I'm kind-of in a catch-22 with LC not working with XC 13.1 and XC 
>> 12.5.1 and below not even running in Catalina, so I can't complete the 
>> installs.
>> 
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Re: Xcode

[Jim MacConnell via use-livecode]

Panos,
I’m so glad I saw this.

Just for my clarity….
Are you saying we no longer need to do the “Hold off on Xcode updates until 
Livecode can catch up?” thing. I have folders full of older Xcode versions and 
go through a little dance each time I upgrade. It would be wonderful to not 
have to worry about that anymore and to just have one version I point Livecode 
t feeling completely free to upgrade my main version of Xcode without worrying 
that I might break something.

Yours,
Jim

> On May 24, 2022, at 3:51 AM, panagiotis m via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Klaus,
> 
> You do not have to use the latest version of Xcode if your goal is to be
> able to deploy to the latest version of iOS.
> 
> This is the reason we have not moved (yet) to a newer Xcode version - you
> can still use Xcode 13.2 to build apps that will run not only on devices
> running the current most recent iOS version but also on future iOS versions.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Panos
> --
> 
> On Tue, 24 May 2022 at 13:37, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Xcode 13.4 is already available but LC 9.67 and LC 10 dp3 only support
>> Xcode 13.2.
>> Did I miss something?
>> 
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Klaus
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Re: Lock screen challenge

[Jim MacConnell via use-livecode]

I resemble that remark!
j

> On Nov 21, 2022, at 7:47 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> more old-timers

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RE: [ANN] Release 9.0.1

[Jim MacConnell via use-livecode]

Did simple update to 9.0.1 and couldn't test on device(iPhone) . I was very
surprised by this.
"Mobile Support" showed red and the Android SDK path was empty.
Would have been nice to have warning (even though release notes do show
change to 9.4(9/0/1) from 9.2(9.0.0)). Sort of a big change going to an
X.X.1?

Downloaded new xCode (hours!) and added it to "Mobile Support" and was good
to go. Glad I wasn't in a hurry. 
Also, I ended up having to redownload Android Studio (not quite as long but
I didn't hang around). Default install loads API 28 and gives warnings when
trying to link(?). Ended up loading API 26 & 15 before I could repoint to
Android SDK. 

Maybe add a "Required support file upgrades from previous version" note to
the release notes?

Jim

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 3:16 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: panagiotis merakos
Subject: Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.1

Hello Alex,

Sorry, I thought I had replied already.

Yes, if you are on MacOS High Sierra you have to use either Xcode 9.4 or
9.4.1. Just make sure the command line tools (Xcode -> Preferences ->
Locations -> Command Line Tools) you use matches the Xcode version.

Best,
Panos
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RE: Trying to get Camera Control. Community Plus License

[Jim MacConnell via use-livecode]

I feel your pain.

Discontinuing the Video Grabber library in 8.1, effectively killed a number
of projects I was working on that used webcams and digital microscopes in a
manufacturing environment. Telling people they can't use the current version
of Livecode to maintain old projects is a non-starter. Using the Community
edition was an essential part of those projects (developing in house
industrial applications using a "proprietary coding environment" is frowned
upon where I work). 

My current projects use external tools to drive the microscopes, etc. I use
LiveCode to "launch" the camera software  and make sure it saves
images/videos somewhere I can get to them for processing. Definitely not the
seamless user interface shop floor operators desire/deserve. I would love to
be able to use a native LiveCode capability to drive the tools but for
now, I do what I can and wait for the day I'll have time to figure out how
to build externals/widgets/LCB tools to drive the microscope from within my
apps.

Jim

##
## From the dictionary for the entire revVideo section
###
Changes
The use of  was deprecated in version 8.1 of
LiveCode with new defaults for and as true on all systems apart from pre OS
X 10.8. The Windows build of LiveCode no longer supports any features and
setting the and
will have no effect.
Support for the "Video Grabber" library on Mac OS X ended in LiveCode 9.0.
###
Jim

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of
Richmond via use-livecode
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 9:21 AM
To: hh via use-livecode 
Cc: Richmond 
Subject: Re: Trying to get Camera Control. Community Plus License

I've just been fiddling around with the "Video Capture.rev" stack from LC
4.5 with no joy in LC 8.1.10.

Richmond.

On 27.01.19 17:02, hh via use-livecode wrote:
> Find some info here:
> https://livecode.com/products/livecode-platform/pricing/
>
>  From the 9.0.2-dict entry to cameraControlCreate:
> Edition: Indy
> OS: mac, windows, ios, android
>
> So, the Community plus edition is not the Indy edition.
>
> I will soon publish a *timelapseCamera* stack that runs on 
> Mac/Win/linux with LC 6/7/8/9 and Raspi (LC 651/704) for ALL editions 
> of LC.
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RE: Swipe over native scroller

[Jim MacConnell via use-livecode]

The only way I've been able to get swipe functionality with a native
scroller is to keep the native scroller narrower than the screen by enough
that someone swiping is able to easily start the swipe on the background.
I've found when people try to swipe and it doesn't work, they'll try again
starting closer to the edge of the screen which I can trap. 

Definitely not ideal but it's all I've been able to come up with since I
don't really want to have to code bounce, etc.

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode  On Behalf Of J.
Landman Gay via use-livecode
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 9:04 AM
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: J. Landman Gay 
Subject: Re: Swipe over native scroller

That's similar to the handlers I'm using but they all fail because no
mouseUp or touchEnd messages are ever sent if you are over a native
scroller. The issue isn't with the calculations, it's because the app is
never informed thar the swipe has completed.

I'll try fiddling with touchMove again, but the message isn't sent
consistently on slow hardware and sometimes fails.

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http://www.hyperactivesw.com On January 31, 2019 7:20:38 AM Sannyasin
Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode  wrote:

> Did you try Terry script? Elanor did something similar this in the 
> Listen module, it not very refined. Terry put time in it with subtle 
> time parameters. I have yet to try it. It here on the list
>
> Terry, do we have a place for a repository for code snippits? Maybe 
> you can put in on the forum.
>
> I don't think  you are going to get response to the bug problem. I 
> have been trying to get smooth scrolling for 3 years!  I think it is 
> more a question of something deep in the engine that "can't be done", 
> at least not cross platform. Otherwise they would have responded by now.
>
> Here's Terry code from Dec. 20...Terry have improved it?
>
> ===
> Terry:
> So, it seems like this approach works ok. Turned out there was an 
> addition complication in that the items in my scrolling list are also 
> selectable and I needed to prevent them being toggled on or off during 
> a left/right swipe action. Anyway, this is what I ended up doing...
>
> In the card script...
>
> local pLoc, pTime, pV, pScroll
>
> on touchStart pTouchID
>   put the mouseLoc into pLoc
>   put the millisecs into pTime
>   put the scroll of grp "checkList" into pScroll
>   put the mouseV into pV
> end touchStart
>
> on touchMove pTouchID, pTouchX, pTouchY
>   put pV-pTouchY into tY
>   put pScroll+tY into tScroll
>   set the scroll of grp "checkList" to tScroll end touchMove
>
> on touchEnd pTouchID
>   put the mouseLoc into pLoc1
>   put (item 1 of pLoc)-(item 1 of pLoc1) into tX
>   put (item 2 of pLoc)-(item 2 of pLoc1) into tY
>   put the millisecs - pTime into tElapsed
>   if abs(tX)>100 then # horizontal swipe
>  if abs(tY)< 50 then # small vertical movement
> if tElapsed < 500 then # not too slow
>if tX > 0 then
>   send "mouseUp" to grp "nextBtn"
>else
>   send "mouseUp" to grp "backBtn"
>end if
> end if
>  end if
>   end if
> end touchEnd
>
> And in the "checklist" script...
>
> local pX
>
> on mouseDown
>   put the mouseH into pX
> end mouseDown
>
> on mouseUp
>   if abs((the mouseH)-pX) > 50 then exit mouseUp
>   # list selection code
> end mouseUp
>
> BR
>
>
> ?On 1/30/19, 7:17 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of J. Landman Gay via 
> use-livecode"  use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks, I was afraid of that. I'll see if I can bump the bug report for
>attention.
>
>On 1/30/19 5:49 PM, Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote:
>> Not much of a workaround I'm afraid, but for a recent app (iOS and 
>> Android) I got rid of the native scroller and used the touch messages 
>> to both scroll the object and detect the swipes.
>> Terry...
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RE: TS Net for Indy vs Business

[Jim MacConnell via use-livecode]

+1
Well said.
... there's no way I can justify the expense other than to tell myself I'm
supporting something worthwhile in about the only way I can.
Jim M.

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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 8:10 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Bob Sneidar
Subject: Re: TS Net for Indy vs Business

Exactly what I was thinking when I read it. My greatest aprehension in using
Livecode is that one day it will be gone, and I will have to learn to use
C++ or Objective C, which is to say I will have to give up software
development. I'm not really sure how they stay afloat as is, but as I
develop strictly for in house use for my company, and not because they want
me to either, but because I happen to know that what I have created for them
vastly simplifies and streamlines my workflow and that of my techs, all that
to say that I pay for LC development out of pocket. the $700 a year hurts.
But I pay it because I need the features Indy offers, and I also think  that
if I am not going to contribute to the open source project (like I have
anything to contribute) then my paying for the Indy license once a year is
my way of supporting it.

I suppose it is how you choose to look at things. I remember getting really
excited about Filemake Standalones until I discovered I would have to pay a
distribution fee for *every single instance* of a distributed app!!! Oh
yeah, and developing for Filemaker sucks goose eggs. Also I come from a
background of Procedural Foxpro where creating a form meant "saying" text at
different window coordinates, then "getting" whatever the user typed in.
There was no program interaction during a read. No events triggered. Foxpro
was in a coma. And, it took forever to write and troubleshoot even minor
changes, compared to Livecode.

You can write a functional utility in a matter of minutes, debug it in a few
hours, make it pretty inside of a day. Compile and distribute it no charge.
AND they offer a free edition. I'm not sure anyone has any room to complain
here.

Bob S


On Jan 6, 2017, at 04:49 , Heather Laine via use-livecode
mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote:

"A bit like devs are being milked" seems a somewhat extraordinary statement.

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RE: How to lose your work in a couple of clicks (dirty flag)

[Jim MacConnell via use-livecode]

Yep..

Yours,
A slow learner

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of 
Mark Talluto via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 10:00 AM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Mark Talluto
Subject: Re: How to lose your work in a couple of clicks (dirty flag)


> On Jan 24, 2017, at 9:50 AM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been poking around in the IDE stacks and found this. I think it's a 
> bug but wanted to run it up the ol' flag pole with the list first before I 
> submit a bug report.
> 
> Recipe:
> 1) Open a stack.
> 2) Make a small change.
> 3) Build a standalone.
> 4) When presented with the "Save/Cancel/Don’t save" dialog, click on the 
> "Don't save" option.
> 5) Exit the IDE and you will not get the options to save your stack because 
> the "Don’t save" option clears the "Dirty" flag.
> 6) Re-open the stack in the IDE and observe that your change(s) are not there.
> 
> Expected result: User should be present with the option to save the stack 
> when exiting the IDE.
> Observed result: The user is not asked to save the stack when exiting the IDE.
> 
> When the "Cancel" option is selected the "dirty flag is not cleared as I 
> would expect but "Don't save" clears it. I think this is wrong. Even if you 
> don't choose to save at that moment The IDE should leave the stack marked as 
> "dirty". I could see someone inadvertently losing a lot of work.

I agree that this could bite someone. I have never run into it myself because I 
always save before building the standalone. But, it could be argued that 
someone would want to save after building the standalone, forget to do so, quit 
the IDE and not be offered the save dialog again, and lose some work.


Best regards,

Mark Talluto
livecloud.io
canelasoftware.com




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RE: Different result in LC 6 to LC 8 when copying field text into Excel?

[Jim MacConnell via use-livecode]

Beat me to it and good to know. 
Paste special as Unicode Text also works but Paste special as HTML does not.

As a wrinkle... pasting into NotePad has no line feeds (e.g. gives " Line
1Line 2Line 3")
Copying that from NotePad and pasting into LC, Word, Excel, etc.  gives
correct result (meaning 3 different lines)

Still too wonky for me to use I'm afraid. 
My users are simple "copy and pasters" and asking them to do different
flavors of Paste isn't going to work.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2017 8:53 AM
To: 'How to use LiveCode'
Cc: Tiemo Hollmann TB
Subject: AW: Different result in LC 6 to LC 8 when copying field text into
Excel?

the headquarter could confirm this interaction to Excel bug and pointed me
to the workaround with "paste special as text"
Tiemo 

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag
von Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Februar 2017 15:26
An: 'How to use LiveCode' 
Cc: Tiemo Hollmann TB 
Betreff: AW: Different result in LC 6 to LC 8 when copying field text into
Excel?

Can anybody on Windows with LC 8 confirm this:

- create a new stack
- create a scrolling list field
- enter three lines of text, each with one word
- enter into the message box: *set the clipboarddata["text"] to fld 1*
- open MS Excel (in my case Windows 10, Excel 2013)
- paste
- see an extra empty line between each line of text

Pasted in a text editor there are no extra lines and up to LC 7 there also
was no extra line in Excel.

Can anybody confirm this behavior or even has an idea for a workaround?

Thanks
Tiemo



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von Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2017 12:13
An: LiveCode User Liste senden 
Cc: Tiemo Hollmann TB 
Betreff: Different result in LC 6 to LC 8 when copying field text into
Excel?

Hello,

I have a standard scrolling list field with multiple lines of text. I copy
the text by:

*set the clipboarddata["text"] to fld "List"*

The User now can past the text into MS Excel on Windows. With LC 6 the text
was pasted into Excel line by line, as it showed up in LC. In LC 8.1.2 the
text is pasted with an extra space line between each two lines.

I checked the line ends in both versions. There is only one "LF"
(byteToNum=10) at the end of each line and it looks the same in both
versions.

What has changed in LC 8 to cause such a different behavior? Is this again a
Unicode thing what I don't understand? I already tried different
clipboarddata keys, without success.

It can't be an Excel option, because I tested it with the same Excel version
on the same machine.

Any idea, what has to be changed to get the same clipboard result as in LC
6?

Thank you

Tiemo

 

 

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RE: Download LC Community: trapped

[Jim MacConnell via use-livecode]

And.. I come down on the other side of this one.
I think offering people the opportunity to register w/email is important
but not allowing them to see what they're getting unless they do not
so good. 

I routinely do not try tools if I have to give anything to try them out...
email, facebook permission, etc. Not willing to spread personal any further
than I need to.  Means I'm probably missing out on great stuff but I'm a
stong believer in try before you by without having to become "connected" to
someone/thing I may not want to have a lasting relationship with.

That said... I personally don't mind getting a periodic reminder when
checking something out along the lines of "We hope you're enjoying X. If
you haven't registered to receive important notices from  yet. Please
consider doing so. This notice will disappear if you do."
 

-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 7:55 AM
To: How to use LiveCode 
Cc: Bob Sneidar 
Subject: Re: Download LC Community: trapped

I'm all for requiring an email address to DL the community version. After
all, they are DL'ing a fully functional development application! Providing a
valid email address is the least they can do. 

Bob S


> On Mar 9, 2017, at 17:30 , Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
 wrote:
> 
> on Thu, 9 Mar 2017, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> The value of an email address is only non-zero when it's given 
>> freely. So have sign-up as an option, rather than a requirement, and 
>> the problem is very easily solved.
> 
> Emails directions could be really useful to open a direct 
> communication link with newcomers and our LiveCode Community.
> 
> Most of the time, new developers in this platform do not know about 
> some old but useful learning resources that longtimers take for 
> granted, so these essential resources are basically invisible for us.
> 
> Probably one of the most eye opening information for new developers is 
> how others are using LiveCode.
> 
> Al


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