Re: Azure or AWS ?

[Mark Talluto via use-livecode]

Hi JBV,

We use Azure and Digital Ocean data centers.

As most of these services go, they charge by time. They will charge you as long 
as they are yours. That means you can turn them off and still be charged. You 
have to destroy your droplet or server to stop billing.

You can buy time from Azure for dormant servers (usually late at night or early 
morning). This may save you some money. It comes with added complexity as you 
cannot access them until Microsoft deems them ready for use.


Best regards,
Mark Talluto

appli.io 
livecloud.io 
nursenotes.net 
canelasoftware.com 



> On Jan 18, 2025, at 12:49 AM, jbv via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi list,
> 
> I have a small LC desktop app that sends requests via curl
> to ollama and some AI models. Everything runs fine on my Mac
> and now I would like to try to move it to the cloud, but I'm
> not sure which platform to choose.
> I have read a few blogs like this one :
> https://www.shiksha.com/online-courses/articles/aws-vs-azure/
> but still can't make my mind...
> Even in the cloud, the app will have very low trafic, the main
> reason behing moving to the cloud is that some models are too
> "big" to fit on my Mac.
> Furthermore, I am not sure of the way both platforms charge :
> one is per minute and the other per hour, but does it mean
> that they keep charging as long as an account exists, or only
> when some requests and computations take place ?
> 
> Does anyone have any experience on this matter ?
> Thank you in advance.
> 
> jbv
> 
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Re: Azure or AWS ?

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Though Appwrite is something you would put on top of aws or azure, or
digital ocean. But they also have very affortable managed cloud service
that saves u from doing the provisioning ...
So its not exactly the answer to your question, but appwrite is amazing and
i tell everyone about it.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 7:18 PM Tom Glod  wrote:

> Appwrite.io is also an option, I have an implementation forauth, crud, and
> object storage.
> I like it because its Open source, cloud or self host, and u can migrate
> between the two with click of button. (ish?)
> Venture backed with lots of devs working on it.
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 5:13 PM Mark Talluto via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi JBV,
>>
>> We use Azure and Digital Ocean data centers.
>>
>> As most of these services go, they charge by time. They will charge you
>> as long as they are yours. That means you can turn them off and still be
>> charged. You have to destroy your droplet or server to stop billing.
>>
>> You can buy time from Azure for dormant servers (usually late at night or
>> early morning). This may save you some money. It comes with added
>> complexity as you cannot access them until Microsoft deems them ready for
>> use.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Mark Talluto
>>
>> appli.io 
>> livecloud.io 
>> nursenotes.net 
>> canelasoftware.com 
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 18, 2025, at 12:49 AM, jbv via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi list,
>> >
>> > I have a small LC desktop app that sends requests via curl
>> > to ollama and some AI models. Everything runs fine on my Mac
>> > and now I would like to try to move it to the cloud, but I'm
>> > not sure which platform to choose.
>> > I have read a few blogs like this one :
>> > https://www.shiksha.com/online-courses/articles/aws-vs-azure/
>> > but still can't make my mind...
>> > Even in the cloud, the app will have very low trafic, the main
>> > reason behing moving to the cloud is that some models are too
>> > "big" to fit on my Mac.
>> > Furthermore, I am not sure of the way both platforms charge :
>> > one is per minute and the other per hour, but does it mean
>> > that they keep charging as long as an account exists, or only
>> > when some requests and computations take place ?
>> >
>> > Does anyone have any experience on this matter ?
>> > Thank you in advance.
>> >
>> > jbv
>> >
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Re: Azure or AWS ?

[Tom Glod via use-livecode]

Appwrite.io is also an option, I have an implementation forauth, crud, and
object storage.
I like it because its Open source, cloud or self host, and u can migrate
between the two with click of button. (ish?)
Venture backed with lots of devs working on it.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 5:13 PM Mark Talluto via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi JBV,
>
> We use Azure and Digital Ocean data centers.
>
> As most of these services go, they charge by time. They will charge you as
> long as they are yours. That means you can turn them off and still be
> charged. You have to destroy your droplet or server to stop billing.
>
> You can buy time from Azure for dormant servers (usually late at night or
> early morning). This may save you some money. It comes with added
> complexity as you cannot access them until Microsoft deems them ready for
> use.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Mark Talluto
>
> appli.io 
> livecloud.io 
> nursenotes.net 
> canelasoftware.com 
>
>
>
> > On Jan 18, 2025, at 12:49 AM, jbv via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi list,
> >
> > I have a small LC desktop app that sends requests via curl
> > to ollama and some AI models. Everything runs fine on my Mac
> > and now I would like to try to move it to the cloud, but I'm
> > not sure which platform to choose.
> > I have read a few blogs like this one :
> > https://www.shiksha.com/online-courses/articles/aws-vs-azure/
> > but still can't make my mind...
> > Even in the cloud, the app will have very low trafic, the main
> > reason behing moving to the cloud is that some models are too
> > "big" to fit on my Mac.
> > Furthermore, I am not sure of the way both platforms charge :
> > one is per minute and the other per hour, but does it mean
> > that they keep charging as long as an account exists, or only
> > when some requests and computations take place ?
> >
> > Does anyone have any experience on this matter ?
> > Thank you in advance.
> >
> > jbv
> >
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Re: Low-code dev tools checklist, Red Flags, LC Options to consider

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

Looks like javascript under the hood (of course it does.)

Bob S


On Jan 20, 2025, at 7:32 AM, Mike Kerner via use-livecode 
 wrote:

in case anyone cares, another low code tool, qodly, came out of beta, and
was released to the public with 1.0.0, today.
https://qodly.com

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