Re: glx2

[Terry Judd]

I¹d forgotten how much I liked GLX2. Thanks so much for maintaining it
Mark.

Terry...

On 23/10/2015 1:11 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Mark Wieder"
 wrote:

>On 10/22/2015 05:05 PM, Peter Haworth wrote:
>> Well there's Mark Wieder's GLX2 editor plugin
>>Mark?
>
>Sheesh. I've been without internet at home for the last couple of days
>(dead dsl modem) and relying on gmane for list access. This thread has
>gotten long in the tooth, so excuse me if I don't read most of it.
>
>The latest beta is online at
>https://bitbucket.org/mwieder/glx2/downloads
>
>but a big caveat: it not only hangs on linux in LC7/8, it takes all the
>cpu cycles with it. Works fine on osx in any version of LiveCode, and
>works fine on linux with a pre-7 engine. The team is currently
>scratching their collective heads about this, and there's not much I can
>do on my end. LC8-dp8 may shed some clues.
>
>...and please don't call it *my* editor. I'm the caretaker, and I've
>been making all the code changes for the last few years, but the design
>and concept is Jerry Daniels'.
>
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>  ahsoftw...@gmail.com
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Different window behavior in LC 6.7.6 and up

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hello,

I have a stack, using as a kind of answer dialog with 3 buttons, where I
dynamically change the button labels, visibility, default, width etc.
depending on the kind of answer dialog I just need. I usually keep this
stack all time open and just show and hide it, when needed.

In my dialog control handler I make all the settings and the last statement
is: show stack foo. This worked fine all time long up to 6.5.2 on Win and OS
X. In 6.7.6 on OS X LiveCode messes up the display of these dynamic buttons
and mixes different states of them. It seems that the window always has the
buttons and properties of the previous and the current window. On Windows it
still works like ever. Now I found out that when using lock/unlock screen
and putting the show stack as the first command, before changing the button
properties, it works also on OS X correct. I can use this workaround, but I
don't know, in how many programs and handlers I have used this method of
displaying stacks and what will catch me up, when upgrading to 6.7.6.

Is this a bug to be filed or wanted behavior without upward compatibility?
Is my method how to handle this dialog stack so out of "how to do it" and it
would be a good advice to check and change all my programs? Anybody have had
similar experiences?

Thanks

Tiemo

 

 

 

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Re: Different window behavior in LC 6.7.6 and up

[Mark Waddingham]

Hi Tiemo,

On 2015-10-23 17:00, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:

Hello,

I have a stack, using as a kind of answer dialog with 3 buttons, where 
I

dynamically change the button labels, visibility, default, width etc.
depending on the kind of answer dialog I just need. I usually keep this
stack all time open and just show and hide it, when needed.

...
Is this a bug to be filed or wanted behavior without upward 
compatibility?
Is my method how to handle this dialog stack so out of "how to do it" 
and it
would be a good advice to check and change all my programs? Anybody 
have had

similar experiences?


I'm not entirely clear on what you are observing here. Can you file a 
bug with a recipe stack so we can take a look?


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

[Peter TB Brett]

On 22/10/2015 22:15, Monte Goulding wrote:



On 23 Oct 2015, at 3:17 am, Peter Haworth  wrote:

The script editor ( and TextMate) automatically indent after
if/repeat/switch statements, Atom doesn't.  I know it has snippets that
will insert a complete if block with indentation but if I simply type an if
statement followed by return, no indentation.


This should be possible.


Atom isn't the IDE script editor, and it isn't TextMate.  If possible, 
we should match the "usual" behaviour of Atom.  This probably includes 
properly indenting block templates. ;-)



The other one is if I press the tab key in the IDE Script Editor, all my
code is properly indented and aligned.  I would guess that's too specific
for Atom to be able to handle, but I miss that feature.


One problem here is tab is used to jump to fields in auto-completed snippets. 
It should be feasible to have some other key combo trigger a re-indent of the 
file. It may be that atom already has a standard key combo for this… In most 
IDEs this is a contextual menu option rather than a standard behavior. I image 
if you were in a team and using different editors that had slight differences 
in the re-ident behavior then it would make a real mess of you git history…



In LCB files, Edit->Lines->Auto Indent will properly indent and align 
the selection (or the whole file if nothing is selected).  This doesn't 
currently work for LiveCode Script files, probably because the 
indentation rules aren't quite right.  I've filed an issue:


https://github.com/peter-b/atom-language-livecode/issues/16

You can edit your Atom keymap to add a keybinding for Auto Indent, if 
you want.

https://atom.io/docs/latest/using-atom-basic-customization#customizing-key-bindings

I find the IDE editor's auto-indentation behaviour pretty obnoxious (it 
regularly screws up the formatting in my comments), so I'll be happy to 
*not* have it in the Atom package.


  Peter

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Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

[Peter TB Brett]

On 22/10/2015 18:33, Bob Sneidar wrote:


So am I supposed to copy scripts back and forth, or is Atom supposed
to be able to jack into my Livecode stack and read the scripts in the
individual objects? Don't see how that is possible, and I don't see
how it would be better, or that much better to use Atom as an
alternative script editor for LC. Perhaps for LC server.


This is not supposed to replace the in-IDE script editor.  It's intended 
for quick tweaks to script-only stacks, for writing LiveCode server 
scripts, and for editing LiveCode Builder source code.


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AW: Different window behavior in LC 6.7.6 and up

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

Hi Mark,

I already tried to create a recipe, but didn't found the relevant statements
yet. As soon I can reproduce this behavior in a test stack, I will file a
bug in QC.
Thanks
Tiemo
 

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von Mark Waddingham
Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Oktober 2015 17:04
An: How to use LiveCode 
Betreff: Re: Different window behavior in LC 6.7.6 and up

Hi Tiemo,

On 2015-10-23 17:00, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have a stack, using as a kind of answer dialog with 3 buttons, where 
> I dynamically change the button labels, visibility, default, width 
> etc.
> depending on the kind of answer dialog I just need. I usually keep 
> this stack all time open and just show and hide it, when needed.
...
> Is this a bug to be filed or wanted behavior without upward 
> compatibility?
> Is my method how to handle this dialog stack so out of "how to do it" 
> and it
> would be a good advice to check and change all my programs? Anybody 
> have had similar experiences?

I'm not entirely clear on what you are observing here. Can you file a bug
with a recipe stack so we can take a look?

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Re: [ANN] "language-livecode" 0.6.0 for Atom Editor

[Peter TB Brett]

On 22/10/2015 17:38, Bob Sneidar wrote:

I had typed up an email to that effect yesterday, but deleted it without 
sending it, because I thought that maybe I was asking too much of the Atom 
Editor. But if this is what ist should be doing then +1!

Bob S


On Oct 21, 2015, at 16:36 , Peter Haworth 
mailto:p...@lcsql.com>> wrote:

This is probably a question for any Atom experts out there but The
autocomplete doesn't seem to be working as I expected.

According to the Atom documentation, autocomplete should include words in
the file you're editing, so for example if I have a local declaration, it
should suggest the names of the variables for autocompletion but that's not
happening.


Urgh, this is pretty broken in the 0.6.0.  I'll file an issue and try to 
make sure it's fixed for the next release.


https://github.com/peter-b/atom-language-livecode/issues/18

 Peter

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AW: Different window behavior in LC 6.7.6 and up

[Tiemo Hollmann TB]

I created a recipe stack and filed it as bug 16275
Thanks
Tiemo

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An: 'How to use LiveCode' 
Betreff: AW: Different window behavior in LC 6.7.6 and up

Hi Mark,

I already tried to create a recipe, but didn't found the relevant statements
yet. As soon I can reproduce this behavior in a test stack, I will file a
bug in QC.
Thanks
Tiemo
 

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An: How to use LiveCode 
Betreff: Re: Different window behavior in LC 6.7.6 and up

Hi Tiemo,

On 2015-10-23 17:00, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have a stack, using as a kind of answer dialog with 3 buttons, where 
> I dynamically change the button labels, visibility, default, width 
> etc.
> depending on the kind of answer dialog I just need. I usually keep 
> this stack all time open and just show and hide it, when needed.
...
> Is this a bug to be filed or wanted behavior without upward 
> compatibility?
> Is my method how to handle this dialog stack so out of "how to do it" 
> and it
> would be a good advice to check and change all my programs? Anybody 
> have had similar experiences?

I'm not entirely clear on what you are observing here. Can you file a bug
with a recipe stack so we can take a look?

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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REST API support (and OAuth too)

[Richard Gaskin]

I periodically run into people who say they can't use LC with some REST 
APIs, but I've not been able to solicit specifics about what's not 
working for them.


Most REST APIs require GET, POST, PUT, and DELETE.  I know LC supports 
GET and POST, but are PUT and DELETE supported for HTTP as they are for FTP?


Related, very few APIs are useful without OAuth support - is there a 
library in our community available under permissive license which 
provides that?


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Re: REST API support (and OAuth too)

[Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel]

I would love to also have a solution to the OAuth issue as I run into this
all the time.  My gut feeling there is a way to deal with it, I have not
found a way.

SKIP KIMPEL

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Richard Gaskin 
wrote:

> I periodically run into people who say they can't use LC with some REST
> APIs, but I've not been able to solicit specifics about what's not working
> for them.
>
> Most REST APIs require GET, POST, PUT, and DELETE.  I know LC supports GET
> and POST, but are PUT and DELETE supported for HTTP as they are for FTP?
>
> Related, very few APIs are useful without OAuth support - is there a
> library in our community available under permissive license which provides
> that?
>
> TIA -
>
> --
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>  Fourth World Systems
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>  
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Re: REST API support (and OAuth too)

[Roger Eller]

This is a wonderful example of using a REST API with nothing but LiveCode.
Read the .rtf manual included.

http://www.phoenixsea.ch/downloads/Livecode/phxDropboxLib.zip

~Roger

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Richard Gaskin 
wrote:

> I periodically run into people who say they can't use LC with some REST
> APIs, but I've not been able to solicit specifics about what's not working
> for them.
>
> Most REST APIs require GET, POST, PUT, and DELETE.  I know LC supports GET
> and POST, but are PUT and DELETE supported for HTTP as they are for FTP?
>
> Related, very few APIs are useful without OAuth support - is there a
> library in our community available under permissive license which provides
> that?
>
> TIA -
>
> --
>  Richard Gaskin
>  Fourth World Systems
>  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
>  
>  ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com
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How can a button not have properties?

[Dr. Hawkins]

How can

put the properties  of btn "File" of grp "mcp_menu" of  cd 1 of stack
"old_cp"


*possibly* come up empty?

This has come up while copying stacks out of my program into a new file.  I
shed .9mb, but am having other issues.


Anyway, this comes about in a maintenance script that sets the traits of
buttons of a menu in most stacks to those of the main stack.

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Re: How can a button not have properties?

[Peter Haworth]

The properties property is an array so a simple put will not display
anything.

Pete
lcSQL Software 
Home of lcStackBrowser  and
SQLiteAdmin 

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Dr. Hawkins  wrote:

> How can
>
> put the properties  of btn "File" of grp "mcp_menu" of  cd 1 of stack
> "old_cp"
>
>
> *possibly* come up empty?
>
> This has come up while copying stacks out of my program into a new file.  I
> shed .9mb, but am having other issues.
>
>
> Anyway, this comes about in a maintenance script that sets the traits of
> buttons of a menu in most stacks to those of the main stack.
>
> --
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> (702) 508-8462
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Re: How can a button not have properties?

[Dr. Hawkins]

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Peter Haworth  wrote:

> The properties property is an array so a simple put will not display
> anything.
>

Yes, but

put the keys of the properties  of btn "File" of grp "mcp_menu" of  cd 1 of
stack "old_cp"



also comes up empty.

I found this when setting the properties of one button to that of another;
a line of code that got used for a year or so on every single version
change.  It bombs out of the script with only an error in the message box.



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Re: How can a button not have properties?

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi,

Actually, a property isn't an array. You have to put the properties 
property into a variable to make it an array.


Mark Schonewille
http://economy-x-talk.com

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Op 10/23/2015 om 23:07 schreef Dr. Hawkins:

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Peter Haworth  wrote:


The properties property is an array so a simple put will not display
anything.


Yes, but

put the keys of the properties  of btn "File" of grp "mcp_menu" of  cd 1 of
stack "old_cp"



also comes up empty.

I found this when setting the properties of one button to that of another;
a line of code that got used for a year or so on every single version
change.  It bombs out of the script with only an error in the message box.






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Re: REST API support (and OAuth too)

[Mike Kerner]

The dropbox library also uses oauth - but 1, not 2

There CAN be issues with REST API's, if the site in question implements TLS
a certain way.  I have a bug report in on this, but the team hasn't dealt
with it, yet, presumably because it's a PITA to figure out, and they seem
to think it's caused by misconfigured servers on the receiving end.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Roger Eller 
wrote:

> This is a wonderful example of using a REST API with nothing but LiveCode.
> Read the .rtf manual included.
>
> http://www.phoenixsea.ch/downloads/Livecode/phxDropboxLib.zip
>
> ~Roger
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Richard Gaskin <
> ambassa...@fourthworld.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I periodically run into people who say they can't use LC with some REST
> > APIs, but I've not been able to solicit specifics about what's not
> working
> > for them.
> >
> > Most REST APIs require GET, POST, PUT, and DELETE.  I know LC supports
> GET
> > and POST, but are PUT and DELETE supported for HTTP as they are for FTP?
> >
> > Related, very few APIs are useful without OAuth support - is there a
> > library in our community available under permissive license which
> provides
> > that?
> >
> > TIA -
> >
> > --
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> >  Fourth World Systems
> >  Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
> >  
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Re: How can a button not have properties?

[Ali Lloyd]

Indeed, or you can force evaluation to an array using brackets.

put the keys of (the properties of btn "File" of grp "mcp_menu" of  cd 1 of
stack "old_cp")

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:09 PM Mark Schonewille <
m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Actually, a property isn't an array. You have to put the properties
> property into a variable to make it an array.
>
> Mark Schonewille
> http://economy-x-talk.com
>
> Buy the most extensive book on the
> LiveCode language:
> http://livecodebeginner.economy-x-talk.com
>
> Op 10/23/2015 om 23:07 schreef Dr. Hawkins:
> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Peter Haworth  wrote:
> >
> >> The properties property is an array so a simple put will not display
> >> anything.
> >>
> > Yes, but
> >
> > put the keys of the properties  of btn "File" of grp "mcp_menu" of  cd 1
> of
> > stack "old_cp"
> >
> >
> >
> > also comes up empty.
> >
> > I found this when setting the properties of one button to that of
> another;
> > a line of code that got used for a year or so on every single version
> > change.  It bombs out of the script with only an error in the message
> box.
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: How can a button not have properties?

[Ali Lloyd]

I wonder if this is something we can fix. At the moment "the keys" is
hard-coded to allow the drag/clipboard data properties as source arrays.

There's probably a parsing ambiguity involved in having an object property
source that is not currently obvious to me.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:15 PM Ali Lloyd  wrote:

> Indeed, or you can force evaluation to an array using brackets.
>
> put the keys of (the properties of btn "File" of grp "mcp_menu" of  cd 1 of
> stack "old_cp")
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:09 PM Mark Schonewille <
> m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Actually, a property isn't an array. You have to put the properties
>> property into a variable to make it an array.
>>
>> Mark Schonewille
>> http://economy-x-talk.com
>>
>> Buy the most extensive book on the
>> LiveCode language:
>> http://livecodebeginner.economy-x-talk.com
>>
>> Op 10/23/2015 om 23:07 schreef Dr. Hawkins:
>> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Peter Haworth  wrote:
>> >
>> >> The properties property is an array so a simple put will not display
>> >> anything.
>> >>
>> > Yes, but
>> >
>> > put the keys of the properties  of btn "File" of grp "mcp_menu" of  cd
>> 1 of
>> > stack "old_cp"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > also comes up empty.
>> >
>> > I found this when setting the properties of one button to that of
>> another;
>> > a line of code that got used for a year or so on every single version
>> > change.  It bombs out of the script with only an error in the message
>> box.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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Sending encrypted and authenticated emails

[Bob Sneidar]

Hi all. 

I just figured out how to send encrypted authenticated emails via Exchange 
servers (although the same process applies to non-Exchange systems) via a 
shell. Telnet has to be installed to do this however, and Windows 7 and up have 
the telnet client disabled by default for some reason. If I can use the sockets 
commands built into Livecode, I will attempt to do that instead. 

I am going to put together a library stack, and will probably need to beta test 
it. Anyone interested please send me a private message, and I will get a copy 
out to you at the earliest convenience. 

Bob S



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Keep Selection Focus When Switching to Substack

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami]

I think I asked this before, 

but… is there a way to keep the selection when switching to a substack that is 
set to palette?

The goal is to have buttons that operate on selected text, but in a separate 
stack.

Brahmanathaswami

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