Re: Can you please enlighten me on the LiveCode versions?

2014-10-18 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Richard Gaskin 
wrote:

>
> But if you need stability, the most recent public release build is the
> best bet, as those are the versions the community has tested and can no
> longer find show-stoppers for.
>
> An excellent overview, thank you. I think the only thing worth adding is
due to Unicode 7.0 and above are a different file format therefore you need
to be careful you don't accidentally open the sole copy of your soon to be
released killer app in 7.x.

You can do all your work in 6.x.y, make a copy, open it in 7.x and see how
it behaves.

You can't open in 7.x, do modifications, Save, Quit and then open that
stack using 6.x.y

Any modifications done in a 7.x copy would need to be manually transferred
back into a 6.x.y stack.
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Re: Teaching LiveCode to Children

2014-10-18 Thread Dave Kilroy
Thanks Mark :)


mwieder wrote
> You mean as opposed to thwimming?
> 
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Re: Can you please enlighten me on the LiveCode versions?

2014-10-18 Thread Earthednet-wp
Is it possible to build a standalone in LC 7 rc3 at this time? Unfortunately, I 
have been working in 7 for awhile and want to have a standalone in January.
Bill

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> On Oct 18, 2014, at 12:12 AM, Kay C Lan  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Richard Gaskin 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> But if you need stability, the most recent public release build is the
>> best bet, as those are the versions the community has tested and can no
>> longer find show-stoppers for.
>> 
>> An excellent overview, thank you. I think the only thing worth adding is
> due to Unicode 7.0 and above are a different file format therefore you need
> to be careful you don't accidentally open the sole copy of your soon to be
> released killer app in 7.x.
> 
> You can do all your work in 6.x.y, make a copy, open it in 7.x and see how
> it behaves.
> 
> You can't open in 7.x, do modifications, Save, Quit and then open that
> stack using 6.x.y
> 
> Any modifications done in a 7.x copy would need to be manually transferred
> back into a 6.x.y stack.
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Screen Flashing in LC 6..6.3

2014-10-18 Thread Roger Guay
I’m using OS X Yosemite and LC 6.6.3 and noticing an occasional screen flash 
when unlocking screen with visual effect. Can anyone confirm? Here is a sample 
of my code that sometimes causes a screen flash. Makes no difference what 
visual effect I use . . . near as I can tell.

on mouseUp
   lock screen for visual effect
   set the vis of image "galex" to not the vis of  image "galex"
   unlock screen with dissolve
end mouseUp


Thanks,

Roger
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Import and Export on Android

2014-10-18 Thread Ray

Greetings,

Could anybody help me importing and exporting data on an Android phone?  
I can't even load the clipboard with;


   set the clipboardData["text"] to myData

It works within my app but if I move over to Memo or Google Sheets it's 
just not there.


Ideally I'd like to be able to write text files to a folder I create, or 
even better, write a file which I can send via Bluetooth or put in a 
Dropbox account.


Any ideas?

Many Thanks!

Ray Horsley
LinkIt! Software



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Re: RELEASE 6.7 RC3

2014-10-18 Thread Sean Cole (Pi)
Hi Terry,

I wonder if a grid of 8x2000 text fields would produce the same findings of
slow rendering as a dataGrid.

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On 18 October 2014 07:50, Terence Heaford  wrote:

> I reported a couple of releases ago that the scrolling of a data grid had
> improved by approx. 15% - 20%.
>
> I can now report that RC3 vs RC2 has now reverted back as RC3 is now
> approx. 15% - 20% SLOWER at scrolling than RC2.
>
> Is this because of updated text rendering, if it is then please revert the
> speed of text rendering to what it was? or carry out improvements.
>
> I know my machine is somewhat old but compared to Cocoa native scrolling
> table and dare I say it, Xojo, this is appallingly slow.
>
> Scrolling a table of 2000 records & 8 columns.
>
> Cocoa/Obj C Table - 4 seconds
> Xojo - 6 seconds
> Livecode - 10 seconds was 8 seconds (RC2).
>
> ???
>
> All the best
>
> Terry
>
>
> > On 17 Oct 2014, at 17:45, Benjamin Beaumont  wrote:
> >
> >   - Updated text rendering for iOS and OS X
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Re: [On-Rev] Is anyone else experiencing delays in email transmission from/to accounts on Pancake?

2014-10-18 Thread Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D
Hi Mark,

please excuse, but if you haven´t used the on-rev servers in years now, then you
have no experience with the new on-rev servers. And therefore it is not fair to 
comment about the new servers. 

The performance of the new servers is significant better than the original ones.

The problem i reported yesterday was a temporary problem which seems to be 
fixed now and SMTP is working again w/o problems.

Regards,

Matthias



 
> Am 18.10.2014 um 04:12 schrieb Mark Wieder :
> 
> Matthias-
> 
> Friday, October 17, 2014, 6:33:07 AM, you wrote:
> 
>> Okay, thanks. 
>> Interesting is, that some emails are sent/received immediatley
>> and ohters take hours. There are even some emails i sent out 2 days
>> ago which the recipient did not receive yet.
> 
> This seems to be fairly typical on-rev performance.
> Best bet is to configure your mail client to use your isp's smtp
> server.
> I haven't used the on-rev smtp servers in years now.
> 
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Re: [On-Rev] Is anyone else experiencing delays in email transmission from/to accounts on Pancake?

2014-10-18 Thread Mark Wieder
Matthias-

Saturday, October 18, 2014, 11:54:14 AM, you wrote:

> Hi Mark,

> please excuse, but if you havenŽt used the on-rev servers in years now, then 
> you
> have no experience with the new on-rev servers. And therefore it
> is not fair to comment about the new servers. 

No, I *am* hosted on on-rev, I just don't use the smtp servers.
Because of exactly the intermittent but frequent problem you ran into.
Unless you are using on-rev as your isp, and I don't think that's even
possible, there's no reason to use their smtp servers and several
reasons not to.

> The performance of the new servers is significant better than the original 
> ones.

Yes, this is quite true. When they work.

> The problem i reported yesterday was a temporary problem which
> seems to be fixed now and SMTP is working again w/o problems.

And it will occur again. And again. You may or may not notice it,
depending on how critical your email needs are when it goes out.

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Re: RELEASE 6.7 RC3

2014-10-18 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Saturday, October 18, 2014, Terence Heaford 
wrote:

> I reported a couple of releases ago that the scrolling of a data grid had
> improved by approx. 15% - 20%.
>
> I can now report that RC3 vs RC2 has now reverted back as RC3 is now
> approx. 15% - 20% SLOWER at scrolling than RC2.
>

Threaded rendering was turned off in RC-3. While it did speed some things
up, it was causing a number of crashes.

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Re: RELEASE 6.7 RC3

2014-10-18 Thread Terence Heaford
Can the crashes be resolved then and it turned back on or some other solution 
to increasing the speed or are we doomed?

All the best

Terry


> On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:23, Trevor DeVore  wrote:
> 
> Threaded rendering was turned off in RC-3. While it did speed some things
> up, it was causing a number of crashes.

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Re: Can you please enlighten me on the LiveCode versions?

2014-10-18 Thread Richard Gaskin

Earthednet-wp wrote:

> Is it possible to build a standalone in LC 7 rc3 at this time?
> Unfortunately, I have been working in 7 for awhile and want to
> have a standalone in January.

What problems have you encountered?

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SV: RELEASE 6.7 RC3

2014-10-18 Thread Mats Wilstrand
Hi Terry

I'm following your reporting on this with interest as I'm updating rGrid to
v 2.0 focusing on performance and will do some benchmarking.
Could you please tell how you set up your comparisons or even better, could
you share a test stack?

With my best regards

Mats

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Can the crashes be resolved then and it turned back on or some other
solution to increasing the speed or are we doomed?

All the best

Terry


> On 18 Oct 2014, at 20:23, Trevor DeVore  wrote:
> 
> Threaded rendering was turned off in RC-3. While it did speed some 
> things up, it was causing a number of crashes.

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Re: RELEASE 6.7 RC3

2014-10-18 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Saturday, October 18, 2014, Terence Heaford 
wrote:

> Can the crashes be resolved then and it turned back on or some other
> solution to increasing the speed or are we doomed?
>

1) You're never doomed :-)

2) I don't know when/if it will be turned back on. I know that improving
graphics speed is something that is very important to RunRev though.

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Re: Import and Export on Android

2014-10-18 Thread Mark Talluto
There was a bug was sitting the clipboard in 6.7 RC2. I believe the bike is 
been fixed for RC3. 

Mark



> On Oct 18, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Ray  wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Could anybody help me importing and exporting data on an Android phone?  I 
> can't even load the clipboard with;
> 
>   set the clipboardData["text"] to myData
> 
> It works within my app but if I move over to Memo or Google Sheets it's just 
> not there.
> 
> Ideally I'd like to be able to write text files to a folder I create, or even 
> better, write a file which I can send via Bluetooth or put in a Dropbox 
> account.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Many Thanks!
> 
> Ray Horsley
> LinkIt! Software
> 
> 
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Re: Can you please enlighten me on the LiveCode versions?

2014-10-18 Thread Earthednet-wp
Richard,
Well, in my ignorance and newbiness, I decided to try lc7 and haven't 
experienced ant problems, except for a slowdown changing bytes in a large 
image, to plot symbols on a map. So, I started using it for developing my 
project (silly me) and can't easily go back to the release version because of 
the many changes I've made. My deadline is January, so I thought there would be 
a release out by then. Anyway, I have found no issues with v7 so far.  But, if 
there isn't a release before my deadline, I will still need to make a 
standalone for one particular user. That's why I asked. I still haven't tries 
to make a standalone in LC, so 

Bill

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> On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Richard Gaskin  
> wrote:
> 
> Earthednet-wp wrote:
> 
> > Is it possible to build a standalone in LC 7 rc3 at this time?
> > Unfortunately, I have been working in 7 for awhile and want to
> > have a standalone in January.
> 
> What problems have you encountered?
> 
> -- 
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> Fourth World Systems
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> 
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