[Usability] Gnome Research - Sociological Surveys
> How long have you been using Linux? > > And what about those of us who use GNOME, but don't use Linux...? :) > > Cheeri, > Calum. My bad should of been phrased "How long have you been using Unix/Linux?" My apologies to the power of the Sun ;) -- Tim McConnell ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
[Usability] Gnome Research - Sociological Survey Published
> > I have published the survey to general public in UbuntuForums. You can > fill > it too here (now it's official and I hope to get some data): > http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?hl=en&formkey=cFE1dHJkUkhFakVndEVOVUFvVkl6RHc6MA > .. > > It is a new spreadsheet so I would ask everybody to vote because the > old > information is not migrated. > > -- > A.K. I posted this on Fedora Forums to try to help in getting more data. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1204617#post1204617 -- Tim McConnell ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
Re: [Usability] Gnome Research - Sociological Survey Published
В 03:19 -0600 на 22.04.2009 (ср), Tim McConnell написа: > > A.K. > I posted this on Fedora Forums to try to help in getting more data. > > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1204617#post1204617 Thank you Tim! We are doing good job so far 230 people filled the survey till now. I think that a number of ~ 500 would be enough for our goals. Anton ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
Re: [Usability] Gnome Research - Sociological Survey Published
I think it could have used some more review and input. We can always try again with a second try! Stormy On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Tim McConnell wrote: > Anton, > The survey is not getting many positive comments from Fedora Forums. > Some of the comments are as follows: > > "As to the usability study linked in the first post, I didn't see > anything there that could possibly influence the direction of Gnome 3. > Maybe they really ought to rethink the questions" > > "Frankly, my first thought was: "how do I know this survey is really > coming from GNOME?" It is not hosted by an official GNOME site. It is > just a spreadsheet in Google Docs that any one could put together. Even > Microsoft." > > "They just seem to be collecting data on what folks are using > Gnome/Linux for, nothing about what people WANT from Gnome 3" > > So I'm not sure that was such a great idea after all :( > However, if you were planning a second survey it does give something to > think about as far as the next line of questions and if the survey can > be viewed as being creditable. > > -- > Tim McConnell > > > On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 17:16 +0300, Anton Kerezov wrote: > > В 03:19 -0600 на 22.04.2009 (ср), Tim McConnell написа: > > > > A.K. > > > I posted this on Fedora Forums to try to help in getting more data. > > > > > > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1204617#post1204617 > > > > Thank you Tim! We are doing good job so far 230 people filled the survey > > till now. I think that a number of ~ 500 would be enough for our goals. > > > > > > Anton > > > > ___ > Usability mailing list > Usability@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability > ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
Re: [Usability] Gnome Research - Sociological Survey Published
Anton, The survey is not getting many positive comments from Fedora Forums. Some of the comments are as follows: "As to the usability study linked in the first post, I didn't see anything there that could possibly influence the direction of Gnome 3. Maybe they really ought to rethink the questions" "Frankly, my first thought was: "how do I know this survey is really coming from GNOME?" It is not hosted by an official GNOME site. It is just a spreadsheet in Google Docs that any one could put together. Even Microsoft." "They just seem to be collecting data on what folks are using Gnome/Linux for, nothing about what people WANT from Gnome 3" So I'm not sure that was such a great idea after all :( However, if you were planning a second survey it does give something to think about as far as the next line of questions and if the survey can be viewed as being creditable. -- Tim McConnell On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 17:16 +0300, Anton Kerezov wrote: > В 03:19 -0600 на 22.04.2009 (ср), Tim McConnell написа: > > > A.K. > > I posted this on Fedora Forums to try to help in getting more data. > > > > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1204617#post1204617 > > Thank you Tim! We are doing good job so far 230 people filled the survey > till now. I think that a number of ~ 500 would be enough for our goals. > > > Anton > ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
Re: [Usability] Gnome Research - Sociological Survey Published
Sorry for top posting but I have no other option right now. Of course we could try a second time but I think that the results so far are really good with nearly 360 responses and a lot of text in the free paragraph part. Now I've made the logic for sending only to people that have agreed by using spreadsheet functions. I think that in addition to the survey I can make the results as pdf containing charts and explanation for each questions (with separate charts for the other option that I don't know how to extract). Also the second part of the pdf would be a Name (or Anonymous) with accompanying comment about what might be improved. I can tell you there is a lot to analyze and we would probably need a wiki page for the most wanted ideas or smth like that. @ Tim: Don't worry we need all people filling this even negatively. My goal was to make the basis and to get people interested. You can see there is a lot of interest and it can be positively be used for contributions for making a better way to interact with computers (workflow, looks, integration, etc.). Anton From: stormy.pet...@gmail.com [mailto:stormy.pet...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Stormy Peters Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:32 PM To: tmi...@earthlink.net Cc: Anton Kerezov; Gnome Usability Subject: Re: [Usability] Gnome Research - Sociological Survey Published I think it could have used some more review and input. We can always try again with a second try! ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
[Usability] Gnome 3.0 - General Sociological Research
I've shared a document with you called "Gnome 3.0 - General Sociological Research": http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pQ5trdRHEjEgtENUAoVIzDw&inv=usabil...@gnome.org It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To open this document, just click the link above. Here's the data I have collected right now. there are some things that has to be edited but it is 90% good. --- Note: You'll need to sign into Google with this email address. To use a different email address, just reply to this message and ask me to invite your other one. ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
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Btw you may need to switch to View > Listview because the data get's too much for online viewing and the standard view may not be updated. If I expose too much info please let me know and I'll shut the access down. Anton ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
[Usability] Gnome 3.0 - General Sociological Research- email address?
> Note: You'll need to sign into Google with this email address. "This email address" meaning usability@gnome.org or mine or your email address? Also what is the password for the link? -- Tim McConnell ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
Re: [Usability] Gnome 3.0 - General Sociological Research
Seems the "How do you think Gnome may be improved in the next major version?" column is too small and you can't resize it to be bigger. A sticking point is Compiz integration. Gnome seems to be doing their best to ignore it (esp. with the conflicts raised in gnome shell), but the question responses do show that uses don't separate gnome from compiz and those who use them treat both as essential parts of the desktop experience. ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
Re: [Usability] Gnome 3.0 - General Sociological Research- email address?
Just being signed in with a google account worked for me ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
Re: [Usability] Gnome Research - Sociological Survey Published
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Tim McConnell wrote: > Anton, > The survey is not getting many positive comments from Fedora Forums. > Some of the comments are as follows: > > "As to the usability study linked in the first post, I didn't see > anything there that could possibly influence the direction of Gnome 3. > Maybe they really ought to rethink the questions" > > "Frankly, my first thought was: "how do I know this survey is really > coming from GNOME?" It is not hosted by an official GNOME site. It is > just a spreadsheet in Google Docs that any one could put together. Even > Microsoft." > > "They just seem to be collecting data on what folks are using > Gnome/Linux for, nothing about what people WANT from Gnome 3" > > So I'm not sure that was such a great idea after all :( > However, if you were planning a second survey it does give something to > think about as far as the next line of questions and if the survey can > be viewed as being creditable. The points are very valid. That was one of the reasons I suggested earlier to ask gnome.org about working on the survey with the other teams and publishing it there. It would have given us credibility and a bigger insight on what we (not only u7y, all the other teams) want to know about users for the dev of Gnome 3. I really think more thought should be given about things, more communication with the Gnome teams should be made, at least if we want that survey idea to go somewhere. -- Guillaume Ardaud http://www.noxneo.net/~ga ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
Re: [Usability] Gnome Research - Sociological Survey Published
> @ Tim: Don’t worry we need all people filling this even negatively. I was thinking more along the lines of how many people might not be willing to take the survey because it might be a phishing site, which was brought to my attention from the comment: "Frankly, my first thought was: "how do I know this survey is really coming from GNOME?" It is not hosted by an official GNOME site. It is just a spreadsheet in Google Docs that any one could put together. " So if future surveys are done one of the considerations for the survey should be how it is presented and what can be done to ease those types of fears. The other comments that caught my attention was: "They just seem to be collecting data on what folks are using Gnome/Linux for, nothing about what people WANT from Gnome 3" and "As to the usability study linked in the first post, I didn't see anything there that could possibly influence the direction of Gnome 3. Maybe they really ought to rethink the questions" So in a future version of a survey it might be an idea to throw in questions like what don't you like about GNOME or what things would you change/improve in GNOME? It could be an idea to do a survey about Nautilus functionality improvements, I read the survey results so far and Compiz and Nautilus seem to be the main complaints so far. Evolution seems to need some tender loving care also. I do agree the survey did/does pull good data, and as far as I'm concerned does give a good idea of how the new menu bar would be beneficial to GNOME in general. If you do decide to do another survey I would be happy to help. I like the Wikki idea but can offer no ideas on how to parse the data from that. Also with your permission I would like to post the survey results to my post in Fedora Forums. -- Tim McConnell On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 21:15 +0300, Anton Kerezov wrote: > > > Sorry for top posting but I have no other option right now. > > > > Of course we could try a second time but I think that the results so > far are really good with nearly 360 responses and a lot of text in the > free paragraph part. Now I’ve made the logic for sending only to > people that have agreed by using spreadsheet functions. I think that > in addition to the survey I can make the results as pdf containing > charts and explanation for each questions (with separate charts for > the other option that I don’t know how to extract). Also the second > part of the pdf would be a Name (or Anonymous) with accompanying > comment about what might be improved. I can tell you there is a lot to > analyze and we would probably need a wiki page for the most wanted > ideas or smth like that. > > > > @ Tim: Don’t worry we need all people filling this even negatively. > > > > My goal was to make the basis and to get people interested. You can > see there is a lot of interest and it can be positively be used for > contributions for making a better way to interact with computers > (workflow, looks, integration, etc.). > > > > Anton > > > > From: stormy.pet...@gmail.com [mailto:stormy.pet...@gmail.com] On > Behalf Of Stormy Peters > Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:32 PM > To: tmi...@earthlink.net > Cc: Anton Kerezov; Gnome Usability > Subject: Re: [Usability] Gnome Research - Sociological Survey > Published > > > > > I think it could have used some more review and input. We can always > try again with a second try! > > ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
[Usability] Usability study for GNOME on netbooks?
As many of you know, I'm interested in putting together a usability study for GNOME on netbooks. I've gotten a few quotes from usability companies/contractors and I've gotten some interest from advisory board member companies. However, I could use some help shaping up the study. I'm not a usability expert, nor really a GNOME on netbook expert (just a user), so I could use some help. Things left to do: - Figure out exactly what we want feedback on, - Figure out best way to get useful feedback, (what do we want to test) - Work with usability experts/companies/consultants to finalize quotes based on what we want, - Figure out ways to keep costs low by involving volunteers, giving things other than money to those that help (publicity, making all the data public and accredited to the organization, ...) - Finding funds. (I've asked all our traditional sponsoring companies and then some and a few are interested in participating and helping out financially.) Anybody interested in helping out? Thanks, Stormy ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
Re: [Usability] Usability study for GNOME on netbooks?
Hey, Owner of a netbook, very concerned with usability, with a bit of free time of my hands...I'm enthused by the idea and definitely ready to help ;) ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
[Usability] Usability study for GNOME on netbooks?
> Anybody interested in helping out? Hi Stormy, I could help with the first three in the things left to do list. -- Tim McConnell ___ Usability mailing list Usability@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability
