Re: [ubuntu-uk] Enabling Wake on Lan on Ubuntu laptop
On 25 June 2015 at 06:53, javadayaz wrote: > Hi guys, > > Posting after a very long time.. :) > > Ive run into a bit of a problem trying to wake my laptop (connected via > wifi) from suspend using my Android phone. Ideally I would like it to wake > as soon as my phone is connected to my wifi. For this purpose ive > downloaded the WOL app and configured (correctly i think). My WOL is > configured to G so i know ive turned it on. > > I can put it in suspend using the XBMC remote app. > > Im using a Virgin Superhub router. > > The only thing I can think of is when I wake the laptop manually it shows > as Wifi being disconnected. It will then proceed to connect to the wifi. I > dont know if this bit is important but i thought id mention it. > > Any idea what I may need to do please? > > Generally speaking it looks like it isn't possible over wifi for a couple of reasons: for one it just doesn't work as the 'magic packet' can't be sent. For two, a suspended laptop is effectively off, just with its state saved and isn't listening to anything. My laptop certainly needs to connect to wifi when woken up and I would assume most others do as well. s/ -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood "TBA are particularly glib" -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Enabling Wake on Lan on Ubuntu laptop
Absolutely. But can i not set the wifi to On even though the laptop is suspended? On 25 June 2015 at 08:00, Simon Greenwood wrote: > > > On 25 June 2015 at 06:53, javadayaz wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> Posting after a very long time.. :) >> >> Ive run into a bit of a problem trying to wake my laptop (connected via >> wifi) from suspend using my Android phone. Ideally I would like it to wake >> as soon as my phone is connected to my wifi. For this purpose ive >> downloaded the WOL app and configured (correctly i think). My WOL is >> configured to G so i know ive turned it on. >> >> I can put it in suspend using the XBMC remote app. >> >> Im using a Virgin Superhub router. >> >> The only thing I can think of is when I wake the laptop manually it shows >> as Wifi being disconnected. It will then proceed to connect to the wifi. I >> dont know if this bit is important but i thought id mention it. >> >> Any idea what I may need to do please? >> >> > Generally speaking it looks like it isn't possible over wifi for a couple > of reasons: for one it just doesn't work as the 'magic packet' can't be > sent. For two, a suspended laptop is effectively off, just with its state > saved and isn't listening to anything. My laptop certainly needs to connect > to wifi when woken up and I would assume most others do as well. > > s/ > > > -- > Twitter: @sfgreenwood > "TBA are particularly glib" > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Enabling Wake on Lan on Ubuntu laptop
On 25 June 2015 at 08:05, javadayaz wrote: > Absolutely. > > But can i not set the wifi to On even though the laptop is suspended? > > That might work if you can enable it in BIOS or the laptop has a physical switch for WLAN but usually if it's on a keyboard key it's a kernel module and won't be available in suspend. s/ -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood "TBA are particularly glib" -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Enabling Wake on Lan on Ubuntu laptop
Sounds like im stuck then! Any other way of enabling that laptop to auto wake once I get home? Javad On 25 June 2015 at 08:28, Simon Greenwood wrote: > > > On 25 June 2015 at 08:05, javadayaz wrote: > >> Absolutely. >> >> But can i not set the wifi to On even though the laptop is suspended? >> >> > That might work if you can enable it in BIOS or the laptop has a physical > switch for WLAN but usually if it's on a keyboard key it's a kernel module > and won't be available in suspend. > > s/ > > -- > Twitter: @sfgreenwood > "TBA are particularly glib" > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Enabling Wake on Lan on Ubuntu laptop
On 25 June 2015 at 08:31, javadayaz wrote: > Sounds like im stuck then! > > Any other way of enabling that laptop to auto wake once I get home? > > > I'm going to have a play with this on my desktop, which is on ethernet, as it would be cool to have it power up from my phone or from a Tasker event but the only way I can see it working reliably from what I have read is to connect a dongle to a physical port, either ethernet or USB. s/ -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood "TBA are particularly glib" -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Enabling Wake on Lan on Ubuntu laptop
i think its possible via ethernet as there is a physical connection. I too was aiming for a tasker event but doesnt look its possible now! boohoo :( On 25 June 2015 at 08:50, Simon Greenwood wrote: > > > On 25 June 2015 at 08:31, javadayaz wrote: > >> Sounds like im stuck then! >> >> Any other way of enabling that laptop to auto wake once I get home? >> >> >> > I'm going to have a play with this on my desktop, which is on ethernet, as > it would be cool to have it power up from my phone or from a Tasker event > but the only way I can see it working reliably from what I have read is to > connect a dongle to a physical port, either ethernet or USB. > > s/ > -- > Twitter: @sfgreenwood > "TBA are particularly glib" > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Looking for old computers
Hi there ... I mentioned getting good results with Tori OS on an old pentium 4. It didn't like Zorin, but since then I've resurrected a newer computer that would run 14.04 Lubuntu, but was a bit stretched. I tried Zorin. It has none of the freedom of Ubuntu. It is very heavily branded and 'locked in'. To get a useable Firefox, I had to purge Firefox, and then delete the entire .firefox directory. It contained a number of unidentifiable binaries so it's anybodies guess how they've crippled it. Downloading an archive from the Firefox site, and running that was the only way to get something decent. I'm sure there will be intrusive hacks in other programs - I just haven't found them yet. If anyone comes up with a better option than Zorin, I'll get it! Regards,Barry. -- http://barrydrake.co.nr/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Looking for old computers
On 25 June 2015 at 10:11, Barry Drake wrote: > > If anyone comes up with a better option than Zorin, I'll get it! Have you tried ubuntu mate? I have found it good on old PCs Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Looking for old computers
On 25/06/15 10:13, Colin Law wrote: On 25 June 2015 at 10:11, Barry Drake wrote: If anyone comes up with a better option than Zorin, I'll get it! Hi, I know it is no longer being developed, but crunchbang gave my old laptop added zip & speed ;) Pete S Have you tried ubuntu mate? I have found it good on old PCs Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Looking for old computers
On 25/06/15 10:13, Colin Law wrote: Have you tried ubuntu mate? I have found it good on old PCs Thanks Colin I never even spotted it. I'm downloading it right now! It looks as though it is well up to what I want to do. Regards,Barry. -- -- http://barrydrake.co.nr/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Looking for old computers
I came across PeppermintOS[1] recently, which is an LXDE based distribution but a nicely designed one that replaces Firefox with Chromium and has an inbuilt system for Chrome app integration. I'm running it on a four year old Lenovo AMD netbook which was starting to struggle with Xubuntu and it's increased its battery life if nothing else. 1. http://peppermintos.com/ s/ On 25 June 2015 at 10:24, Barry Drake wrote: > On 25/06/15 10:13, Colin Law wrote: > > Have you tried ubuntu mate? I have found it good on old PCs >> > > Thanks Colin I never even spotted it. I'm downloading it right > now! It looks as though it is well up to what I want to do. > > Regards,Barry. > -- > -- > http://barrydrake.co.nr/ > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood "TBA are particularly glib" -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Looking for old computers
On 25/06/15 10:41, Simon Greenwood wrote: I came across PeppermintOS[1] recently, which is an LXDE based distribution but a nicely designed one that replaces Firefox with Chromium and has an inbuilt system for Chrome app integration. I'm running it on a four year old Lenovo AMD netbook which was starting to struggle with Xubuntu and it's increased its battery life if nothing else. That's interesting! My old pentium 4 has only 256 Mb ram. I'm going to try some old dimm cards to see if any are compatible - Mate and most other lightweights need at least 500 Mb - but Peppermint seems to be able to work with the 256 Mb that the machine already has. I'll give it a try. I'm in the process of installing Mate on the other machine - it doesn't crash if I don't add nomodeset to the boot parameters. That's quite something. Regards,Barry. -- http://barrydrake.co.nr/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Enabling Wake on Lan on Ubuntu laptop
On 25 June 2015 at 08:00, Simon Greenwood wrote:
> Generally speaking it looks like it isn't possible over wifi for a couple of
> reasons: for one it just doesn't work as the 'magic packet' can't be sent.
> For two, a suspended laptop is effectively off, just with its state saved
> and isn't listening to anything. My laptop certainly needs to connect to
> wifi when woken up and I would assume most others do as well.
There is a wireless version of WoL, WoWLan. Unfortunately the
documentation for it is a bit thin, and a few other people have asked
in various places and not found answers yet, eg:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/wake-on-wireless-lan-wowlan-help-requested-944572/
Here is the page about it on the kernel wiki:
https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/documentation/wowlan
Try running `iw help wowlan` to get some more clues, but this might
work (I don't have a system here I can try it on, sorry):
`iw phy` # to get your wireless device name
`iw ${devname} wowlan enable magic-packet`
Whether it's possible at all will depend on you having a wireless card
that supports it, and using it will use more power than a full
suspend, of course.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Looking for old computers
On 25/06/15 10:11, Barry Drake wrote: Hi there ... I mentioned getting good results with Tori OS on an old pentium 4. It didn't like Zorin, but since then I've resurrected a newer computer that would run 14.04 Lubuntu, but was a bit stretched. I tried Zorin. It has none of the freedom of Ubuntu. It is very heavily branded and 'locked in'. To get a useable Firefox, I had to purge Firefox, and then delete the entire .firefox directory. It contained a number of unidentifiable binaries so it's anybodies guess how they've crippled it. Downloading an archive from the Firefox site, and running that was the only way to get something decent. I'm sure there will be intrusive hacks in other programs - I just haven't found them yet. If anyone comes up with a better option than Zorin, I'll get it! Regards,Barry. Interesting. Thank you for that I'll bare it in mind. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
