Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop or Server?

2009-11-12 Thread Paul Roach
I'm afraid to say I follow the rest of the herd with this - and I've not
come across an administrative function yet that "requires" a gui on an
Ubuntu server.  If I need to move files around and i feel it will be quicker
graphically I just ssh://ipaddress within nautilus and copy files around
that way.  Updates and installations are easily achieved with
Apt-get/Aptitude - and it's even possible to remotely install a distro using
ssh, by converting the swap partition to ext2 and installing to that - all
at the command line

The only example I can think of where a graphical environment would need to
be installed would be Tony's example - using FreeNX to create a terminal
server.

That said - if you must install a graphical environment - I'd install the
server version first and add the desktop (preferably a lightweight one)
rather than installing the Desktop edition along with all it's bloat...
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop or Server?

2009-11-12 Thread Rob Beard
On 12/11/2009 13:49, Paul Roach wrote:
>
> I'm afraid to say I follow the rest of the herd with this - and I've 
> not come across an administrative function yet that "requires" a gui 
> on an Ubuntu server.  If I need to move files around and i feel it 
> will be quicker graphically I just ssh://ipaddress within nautilus and 
> copy files around that way.  Updates and installations are easily 
> achieved with Apt-get/Aptitude - and it's even possible to remotely 
> install a distro using ssh, by converting the swap partition to ext2 
> and installing to that - all at the command line
>
> The only example I can think of where a graphical environment would 
> need to be installed would be Tony's example - using FreeNX to create 
> a terminal server.
>
> That said - if you must install a graphical environment - I'd install 
> the server version first and add the desktop (preferably a lightweight 
> one) rather than installing the Desktop edition along with all it's 
> bloat...

The only time I would install a complete desktop on a server is if it is 
to run as an LTSP server.  Then it can need everything a desktop 
requires.  When I last installed an LTSP server I was also pleased to 
see that FreeNX works with it as well. :-)

Rob



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[ubuntu-uk] Exchange 2007 Support in Karmic

2009-11-12 Thread Paul Roach
Wondered whether anyone on the list has had any joy/luck with Evolution and
MS Exchange 2007.  I've read a lot online about incompatibility due to MS
sacking WebDAV - which is effectively how Evolution-Exchange and Exchange
2003 talk to each other, but haven't been able to find (m)any success
stories.

I'd love to move the messaging architecture over to something open source -
but at the same time I'm looking for simplicity of deployment to our
predominantly MS users (who heavily use shared Calendars/Tasks and Public
Folders in Exchange).  I've looked at Horde, eGroupware and Lotus Notes but
Horde and eGroupware fail to tick all the boxes and Notes works out more
expensive on licencing.  Effectively for the next few years it looks like
I'm stuck with MS and Active Directory - I'm just hoping that I don't end up
breaking my own systems in the process so any comments would be appreciated.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Exchange 2007 Support in Karmic

2009-11-12 Thread Dan Fish
It's something I've been trying to acheive for a while with absolutely
zero luck. I guess we have to wait for Evolution to catch up (resisted
the temptation to write 'evolve' there!)

Dan

Paul Roach wrote:
> Wondered whether anyone on the list has had any joy/luck with
> Evolution and MS Exchange 2007.  I've read a lot online about
> incompatibility due to MS sacking WebDAV - which is effectively how
> Evolution-Exchange and Exchange 2003 talk to each other, but haven't
> been able to find (m)any success stories.
>
> I'd love to move the messaging architecture over to something open
> source - but at the same time I'm looking for simplicity of deployment
> to our predominantly MS users (who heavily use shared Calendars/Tasks
> and Public Folders in Exchange).  I've looked at Horde, eGroupware and
> Lotus Notes but Horde and eGroupware fail to tick all the boxes and
> Notes works out more expensive on licencing.  Effectively for the next
> few years it looks like I'm stuck with MS and Active Directory - I'm
> just hoping that I don't end up breaking my own systems in the process
> so any comments would be appreciated.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Exchange 2007 Support in Karmic

2009-11-12 Thread Rob Beard
On 12/11/2009 16:45, Paul Roach wrote:
> Wondered whether anyone on the list has had any joy/luck with 
> Evolution and MS Exchange 2007.  I've read a lot online about 
> incompatibility due to MS sacking WebDAV - which is effectively how 
> Evolution-Exchange and Exchange 2003 talk to each other, but haven't 
> been able to find (m)any success stories.
>
> I'd love to move the messaging architecture over to something open 
> source - but at the same time I'm looking for simplicity of deployment 
> to our predominantly MS users (who heavily use shared Calendars/Tasks 
> and Public Folders in Exchange).  I've looked at Horde, eGroupware and 
> Lotus Notes but Horde and eGroupware fail to tick all the boxes and 
> Notes works out more expensive on licencing.  Effectively for the next 
> few years it looks like I'm stuck with MS and Active Directory - I'm 
> just hoping that I don't end up breaking my own systems in the process 
> so any comments would be appreciated.

Have you looked at Zimbra, it offers similar features to Exchange with a 
nice easy to use web interface.  It's available for free under the Yahoo 
Public Licence (IIRC) or there are 'paid for' versions available with 
extra features.

Rob



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Exchange 2007 Support in Karmic

2009-11-12 Thread Jon Spriggs
Just out of interest, what boxes did horde fail to tick? I've been very
enthusiastic about their systems in the past, and I'm fairly confident that
having the IMAP set up properly behind the scenes should give you a
comprehensive exchange-like replacement, with many many more features.

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On 12 Nov 2009 16:47, "Paul Roach"  wrote:

Wondered whether anyone on the list has had any joy/luck with Evolution and
MS Exchange 2007.  I've read a lot online about incompatibility due to MS
sacking WebDAV - which is effectively how Evolution-Exchange and Exchange
2003 talk to each other, but haven't been able to find (m)any success
stories.

I'd love to move the messaging architecture over to something open source -
but at the same time I'm looking for simplicity of deployment to our
predominantly MS users (who heavily use shared Calendars/Tasks and Public
Folders in Exchange).  I've looked at Horde, eGroupware and Lotus Notes but
Horde and eGroupware fail to tick all the boxes and Notes works out more
expensive on licencing.  Effectively for the next few years it looks like
I'm stuck with MS and Active Directory - I'm just hoping that I don't end up
breaking my own systems in the process so any comments would be appreciated.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] (no subject)

2009-11-12 Thread Steve Holmes
You may find Docky helpful, it's part of gnome-do. It's like the
application bar at the bottom of a Mac desktop. You can drag
application launchers onto it, and I think links to files too. It
auto-hides and you can resize the whole thing by just dragging it.

On 11/11/09, JONATHAN TAYLOR  wrote:
> Hi all,
> I've been looking (probably in all the wrong places) for ways to change the
> icon sizes on my desktop. If I was organised (if only) I wouldn't need so
> many there, but as I run my own business I do.
> I know I ought to put folders with groups in, but it's handy having them all
> in front of me, and now I'm using up valuable space.
> Thanks for your help (in advance!)
> Jon
>
>
>

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Exchange 2007 Support in Karmic

2009-11-12 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 12/11/09 16:45, Paul Roach wrote:
> Wondered whether anyone on the list has had any joy/luck with Evolution
> and MS Exchange 2007.  I've read a lot online about incompatibility due
> to MS sacking WebDAV - which is effectively how Evolution-Exchange and
> Exchange 2003 talk to each other, but haven't been able to find (m)any
> success stories.
>
> I'd love to move the messaging architecture over to something open
> source - but at the same time I'm looking for simplicity of deployment
> to our predominantly MS users (who heavily use shared Calendars/Tasks
> and Public Folders in Exchange).  I've looked at Horde, eGroupware and
> Lotus Notes but Horde and eGroupware fail to tick all the boxes and
> Notes works out more expensive on licencing.  Effectively for the next
> few years it looks like I'm stuck with MS and Active Directory - I'm
> just hoping that I don't end up breaking my own systems in the process
> so any comments would be appreciated.
>

Take a look at Zimbra and Zimbra Desktop and also a project called 
OpenChange which is buiding an Exchange Proxy.

Alan


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