[Ubuntu-phone] Hello World!

2011-11-14 Thread Mika Meskanen 
Testing 123 åäö
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[Ubuntu-phone] Hello World!

2011-11-14 Thread Mika Meskanen 
Testing 123 åäö.
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[Ubuntu-phone] testing

2011-11-15 Thread Mika Meskanen 

hello world
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] testing

2011-11-15 Thread Mika Meskanen 

Testing 123 xyz


On 15/11/11 14:29, Mika Meskanen wrote:

hello world



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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] social application support and user interface

2011-11-18 Thread Mika Meskanen 
Interesting…

I think enabling the phone as smart remote to TV is a baseline requirement. 
That's something to start thinking about already today.

The collaborative, multi-device, shared screen scenario is more ambitious, but 
if we come up with a number of compelling scenarios (Novacut example is a good 
start) we can to build understanding around the subject.

There are some interesting multi-screen entertainment scenarios as well. E.g. 
Live football match on TV, phone as remote, and tablet as secondary channel to 
display scores / live tables. There are many more, I'm sure.


Mika



On 18 Nov 2011, at 08:37, Karloman De Waarachtige wrote:

> I take it we're looking towards an app on ubuntu-phone/tablet to control 
> ubuntu-tv. This can be achieved through SSH or even VNC. Anyone following me 
> on this one?
> 
> In the hardware departement; http://www.boxee.tv has one of the best remotes 
> I've seen so far. One side has a D-Pad and one button; the other side has a 
> hardware keyboard (much preferred over a software one). Might be interesting 
> for canonical if they do decide to choose hardware over software.
> 
> Regs,
> 
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Christian Giordano 
>  wrote:
> In the context of simply controlling the TV, and inspiring project might be 
> Google Anymote: http://code.google.com/p/anymote-protocol/
> 
> The possibility of collaborate on a software with more users in realtime and 
> having the TV showing a different view of the process sounded complicated but 
> at the end it is what already happens with many collaborative tools like 
> Google Docs. So it will be a natural scenario when our applications will be 
> more collaborative.
> 
> 
> Cheers, chr
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:32 AM, david jordan  wrote:
> With Ubuntu now being targeted toward TVs as well as smartphones and tablets, 
> one thing that strikes me is that traditionally TVs have traditionally 
> struggled to accept inputs that don't fit into either preset functions on the 
> remote/controller or the equivalent of arrow keys + Select.  (Think of all 
> the interfaces on set top boxes that require the user to enter text via an 
> onscreen keyboard that can only be navigated via arrow keys.)
> While it's probably good to have basic functions accessible via this standard 
> remote  system, I think we can leverage Ubuntu on smartphones and tablets to 
> provide a much richer input system.  By allowing smartphones and tablets to 
> control the television, we could open up Ubuntu TVs for a wide range of 
> collaborative activities.  
> So you would have each of your group's tablets connect to the TV, start up 
> the application you want to work with, and begin working together.  This 
> could work differently depending on the use case.  Either everyone could be 
> working/playing together on the big screen, or individuals could work with a 
> network enabled application on their own tablet and then share their progress 
> directly on the TV with the others as they each made their own adjustments.
> In the case of a video editing project, say Novacut, each user would be 
> cutting a given scene, doing color correction, etc on their own Ubuntu 
> tablet, with the TV as a shared screen for showing progress, getting feedback 
> from the rest of the group, and keeping tabs on the state of the edit as a 
> whole.
> I'm sure there are many other applications that could benefit from having a 
> shared screen interfaced with many tiny ones, especially ones where people 
> are trying to create and remix as a group as well as facilitating social 
> games.
> David Jordan
> 
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[Ubuntu-phone] Other channels

2011-11-22 Thread Mika Meskanen 
Just a quick heads up that there an IRC channel and Ubuntu wiki page are 
in place as well.


#ubuntu-phone on freenode.net

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPhone

Anyone willing to get started with the wiki?


Mika


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] social application support and user interface

2011-11-24 Thread Mika Meskanen 
That's right - this "continuous" or "liquid*" experience is something 
that's subtly implied in Ubuntu's move Unity first into these new devices.


Two scenarios to begin with...

Handset is the one device that can become any other device. Data, links 
to cloud, and states are stored locally and are thus always in sync. UX 
depends on what the handset is connected to.


In case of multiple devices owned by the same user (account), we'd have 
over-the-air sync of data and states that takes place via Ubuntu One (or 
a service of your own choosing?).



Mika


*http://vimeo.com/24511479



On 20/11/11 01:37, Matt Fischer wrote:

Microsoft is already pushing this concept in Windows 8. They called it
"creating experiences that span devices".  The Win8 API will include a
way to save settings which will then be background sync'd to the cloud,
where each app on your system gets 30k free for storage, for things like
where you left off in a video or font settings.  Of course all that
requires Windows Live integration, but theres no reason we couldn't do
something similar using Ubuntu One.

If we're planning to have an ecosystem of devices (TVs, tablets,
laptops, phones), then I agree that this is a great user experience and
may even become expected by users.

The key for implementing this is making it seamless for app developers
to use.



On Sun, 2011-11-20 at 00:20 +, Callum Saunders wrote:

Ok i have completely messed up trying to manage mailing lists in
Gmail. Ive sent this to the wrong place twice, third time's the charm:

I like the idea of if you're watching something on TV you can,
providing they are using the same account, continue watching what you
were watching on you're tablet, phone or laptop. That would be really
handy if you had to go out or do something.

Joshua Topolsky wrote an editorial on Engadget about similiar
behaviour, he called it the 'continous client', it is really worth a
read and is incredibly relevant
- http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/26/a-modest-proposal-the-continuous-client/.

The Trillian IM app implemented this and it was great, you could be
having a conversation on a mac and then when you pick up your mobile,
further messages are delivered there instead and you can continue your
convo seemlessly on the go.

This kind of behaviour between TV's, Phones, Tablets, Laptops&  Cars
would be amazing, and a fantastic selling point.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Mika Meskanen
  wrote:
 Interesting…

 I think enabling the phone as smart remote to TV is a baseline
 requirement. That's something to start thinking about already
 today.

 The collaborative, multi-device, shared screen scenario is
 more ambitious, but if we come up with a number of compelling
 scenarios (Novacut example is a good start) we can to build
 understanding around the subject.

 There are some interesting multi-screen entertainment
 scenarios as well. E.g. Live football match on TV, phone as
 remote, and tablet as secondary channel to display scores /
 live tables. There are many more, I'm sure.


 Mika



 On 18 Nov 2011, at 08:37, Karloman De Waarachtige wrote:

 >  I take it we're looking towards an app on
 ubuntu-phone/tablet to control ubuntu-tv. This can be achieved
 through SSH or even VNC. Anyone following me on this one?
 >
 >  In the hardware departement; http://www.boxee.tv has one of
 the best remotes I've seen so far. One side has a D-Pad and
 one button; the other side has a hardware keyboard (much
 preferred over a software one). Might be interesting for
 canonical if they do decide to choose hardware over software.
 >
 >  Regs,
 >
 >  On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Christian Giordano
   wrote:
 >  In the context of simply controlling the TV, and inspiring
 project might be Google Anymote:
 http://code.google.com/p/anymote-protocol/
 >
 >  The possibility of collaborate on a software with more users
 in realtime and having the TV showing a different view of the
 process sounded complicated but at the end it is what already
 happens with many collaborative tools like Google Docs. So it
 will be a natural scenario when our applications will be more
 collaborative.
 >
 >
 >  Cheers, chr
 >
 >
 >  On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:32 AM, david jordan
   wrote:
 >  With Ubuntu now being targeted toward TVs as well as
 smartphones and tablets, one thing that strikes me is that
 traditionally TVs have traditionally struggled to accept
 inputs that don&#

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] HP opens WebOS

2011-12-10 Thread Mika Meskanen 
Yes, Qt/QML is proving very useful in Canonical design team!

Friendly coexistence between Ubuntu and Android devices is pretty much a 
requirement, but in general we're looking to give the phone a distinct Ubuntu 
user experience and personality – and that's very tangible in the mockups so 
far.

I wonder if the webOS stack, when it goes open, has got pieces that are useful 
to us?


Mika



On 9 Dec 2011, at 20:44, a.gra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On 9 December 2011 21:18, Abraham Farani  wrote:
>> What about the new possibility of the Ubuntu Phone being based on
>> WebOS? It's far more open than android, and it has a better GUI in my
>> opinion.
> 
> we could take many UI ideas from WebOS, this is sure.
> About the OS let's concentrate on opportunities that will have
> developers: the more easy id to develop for a specific platform, the
> more applications there will be available.
> 
> My personal bet is: let's concentrate our efforts on Qt/QML and we won't 
> regret.
> 
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone

2012-07-31 Thread Mika Meskanen 
The status is: we're busy working on it at Canonical.

There's no release date yet, but it will show up on the Ubuntu website and 
Mark's blog, just like TV and Ubuntu for Android did. Maybe some in the news as 
well :)

Best regards,
Mika



On 31 Jul 2012, at 03:47, Sandy Martin  wrote:

> I too hop to hear some updates on the project. the wife and I are very 
> excited about having a Ubuntu phone.
> 
> From: Omar B. 
> To: n.shatok...@gmail.com; ubuntu-phone mail list 
>  
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 11:47:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone
> 
> I don't believe one has been announced yet.
> 
>  there havent been much news yet on the status of the project.
> 
> Hopefully someone has more details ? 
> 
> > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:26:17 +0300
> > From: n.shatok...@gmail.com
> > To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
> > Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone
> > 
> > Hello.
> > 
> > Is exists some developer's apha?
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Nick
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Official word on designs

2013-02-25 Thread Mika Meskanen 
Hi guys,

Just a gentle reminder on top of what Michael's said – all apps should
follow the design guidelines !

The designs submitted to the 12 core
apps project
have been a great source of inspiration for design and development (we have
them on the wall!) We've prioritised four of the apps in the 12 core apps
project; Calendar, Calculator, Calculator, Weather as they really are part
of the core of the Ubuntu experience.

They're being designed to fit our 1.0 phone plan, and we'll be sharing more
detail as we go (on the blog and in hangouts, and maybe even here!) so for
the app to have the best chance of making it onto the phone, we need to
keep a tight feedback loop between design and development. We'll keep the
materials coming, but if there's anything (like a feature or behaviour)
that you really need to know 'like, yesterday', ask on this mailing list
with the [app_name] and [Design] tag!

Cheers,
Mika


On 24 February 2013 15:56, Michael Hall  wrote:

> There won't be an approval of the designs, they are there to guide the
> developers not necessarily define the project.  If you are ready to get
> started developing, pick the designs and features you think are best and
> work on them.
>
> Michael Hall
> mhall...@ubuntu.com
>
> On 02/24/2013 07:12 AM, Matt Richardson wrote:
> > A number of great designs have been submitted on my-balsamiq for the
> > core apps project, but when is a design approved?
> > I would like to start getting involved creating some of these apps but I
> > don't want to start work if the design is going to change shortly
> > afterwards.
> > Obviously I understand that the design will always evolve, but minor
> > changes are different to complete design rewrites.
> > Is there somewhere we can find out when a design has been approved?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Matt
> >
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone Calculator Demo #1

2013-02-25 Thread Mika Meskanen 
Hello,

Wow, that's really impressive progress! We looked at the submissions with
the design team and noticed that there was a strong emphasis on
"scientific" calculations. However, the calculator app as part of the phone
product is targeted for everyday, casual use. That's why we came up with a
really simple calculator that's easy to just pick up and can help people to
split restaurant bills, or label road trip expenses – and then export those
"tapes" to notes or share them via email, for example.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the history 'tape' feature comes to life,
let me know if there's anything in particular that needs some thought
sooner rather than later! It's great to see these features coming to life!

Best regards,
Mika


On 23 February 2013 21:17, Dalius  wrote:

> Hi, all,
>
> I'm one of developers volunterring on one of Ubuntu Phone Core apps:
> Calculator
>
> Here is our first demo:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yb0blrXyN8
>
> We would like to hear your opinions about what you see, what can be
> improved (especially from design side as we are not designers) and etc.
>
> Regards,
> Dalius
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ubuntu-clock-app: Who designed it and what is the idea behind it?

2013-03-01 Thread Mika Meskanen 
Hi Jasper,

As to the stopwatch clock face – please have a look at this schematic
http://ubuntuone.com/4gJPTZOpphfMF4zXnQG0aP

Regarding laps, we're iterating the clock app as we speak. Please bear with
us :)

Hope that helps!

Thanks,
Mika


On 28 February 2013 21:47, Jasper Aikema  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I started working on the clock app (for now the stopwatch tab). But i
> don't understand the design.
>
> There is the clock face, with 1 hand. Is this is hour hand or the minute
> hand? What about the outer coulored thing. Is this the minutes or maybe
> the milliseconds?
>
> And what about the time above, the last digits (89), should this be
> seconds or milliseconds? What will happen when you touch the Lap button.
> Where does the lap times go?
>
> Can someone tell me more about it?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jasper Aikema
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [App] WhatsApp for Ubuntu Phone (alpha)

2013-03-02 Thread Mika Meskanen 
Hi Matthias,

Good stuff – that's most awesome news! Would you consider collaborating
with the Canonical developers on integrating WhatsApp with the
pre-installed messaging app and the messaging menu?


Regards,
Mika


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On 2 March 2013 14:26, Matthias Gehre  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I wrote a WhatsApp client "WhosThere" for Ubuntu phone (and Ubuntu).
>
> [Intro]
> It's implemented in C++/QML/Javascript communicating with it's backend
> yowsup (open-source WhatsApp library for N9) via dbus.
>
> Current version is very alpha. What works:
> - Registering a mobile number with the Whatsapp service
> - Sending and Receiving Messages (no images, group chat or other fancy
> stuff).
> - Delivery notifications
> - Credentials and Messages are saved/loaded to LocalStorage.
> - Demo mode that you can try without registering (but you cannot
> actually send/receive anything)
>
> [Howto]
> Source is at [1] and [2]. You can also use the ppa at [3]. (includes
> armhf builds). Screenshots are at [4].
>
> Then: Start WhosThere from the shell:
>   whosthere --desktop_file_hint /usr/share/applications/whosthere.desktop
>
> You should also start yowsupd from the shell. It would be
> automatically started by dbus activation, but from shell you can see
> the debug messages, as error reporting is currently a bit scarce.
>
> First generate a password for your mobile number (Lower part of main
> screen). This involves two steps: 1. Requesting a code from WhatsApp,
> which is sent via text to your mobile number. 2. Verifying that code
> to obtain a password.
> Attention: You cannot use the same mobile number from different
> devices at the same time. Generating a new password invalidates the
> old one.
>
> You can then use this password together with your mobile number in the
> upper part of WhosThere. Note that in the lower part, country code and
> mobile number are separated, whereas in the upper part country code
> plus mobile number is required. In all case, there are no leading
> zeros.
>
>
> [Not working]
> - In the current version, you can not add contacts by yourself, but
> they will be automatically created once you receive a message from
> them. Afterwards you can click on the contact to go to conversation
> view and answer.
> - Logout
> - ...
>
> [Project members needed]
> I would be very happy if one can help me with:
> - the design (obviously)
> - the design (I cannot stress that enough)
> - coding
> - what you feel worthwhile
> If interested, you can also reach me on irc in #ubuntu-touch, username
> matge.
>
> Best wishes,
> Matthias
>
> [1] https://github.com/mgehre/yowsup
> [2] https://github.com/mgehre/whosthere
> [3] ppa:m-gehre/ppa
> [4] http://imageshack.us/g/1/10040649/
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [App] WhatsApp for Ubuntu Phone (alpha)

2013-03-04 Thread Mika Meskanen 

I see a clear synergy here.

We have design guidance from sabdfl to steer the phone app and messaging 
app towards a "voice hub" and a "text hub", respectively. This need was 
also independently uncovered by early phone research done by Canonical.


So, to summarise:

- "Telephony" app already exists
- It has design in place, and it will go through a design revision (no 
overhead)

- Shipping phone with WhatsApp capability adds a lot of value to the product
- Your work gets shipped pre-installed :)

Users also benfit from tight integration with People scope and Messaging 
menu.


What do you think? Sounds like we're already are on the same page?


Cheers,
Mika



On 03/04/2013 02:50 PM, Gustavo Pichorim Boiko wrote:

Hi Sid

On 03/04/2013 10:20 AM, Sid Payton wrote:

Hello Renato,
I'm working with Mathias on this project. I thought about integrating
this app into a standard application like telepathy as well and
thought of this as the ultimate goal at first as well.
But here are a few things that need to be considered and resolved:

- Most people people would expect a standalone whats-app app linke
they know from other devices (this will resolve it self after some time)


You would still be able to achieve that using telepathy. For example,
the telephony application is right now only handling Telepathy requests
that are meant for a telepathy-ofono account. We could do the same in a
standalone application for WhatsApp.

The benefit here is that in platforms where we want the communication to
be done in one single app (for example, using Empathy on the desktop),
this would be doable in a very straightforward way.

- people would geht confused which way they used to communicate (chat
or Whats app which I belive a simple mark up wouldn't resolve). The
people on the other side would get annoyed because of receiving
answers on another service, which they would blame Ubuntu on.


As Renato already said, this is in part fixed by have a well designed
app that clearly indicates what communication path is being used, and
for subsequent messages, using the previously used method probably does
the job. The important thing is to make it explicit to the user which
communication service is used to send the messages.


But non the less, I belive that a unified massaging service is the
higher goal. After all wie just want to communicate with our friends
and family the cheapest and fastest way possible and don't want to
care which app I have to use. I also think that the messaging
indicator is doing this job already very well.


So, if we go for a Telepathy-based implementation, it would be very easy
to add support for that in the messaging menu. The telephony application
has a daemon that handles that, it would be just a matter of adding
multiple accounts support to it.

The same for the application, it is just a matter of having proper
designs for handling multiple accounts and a few tweaks in the logic side.


What do you thing? Are my concerns justified or can you think of a
solution?


I see your point about having it as a separate application, but over the
time I have seen that people get used to this. For example, in the past
people used to have one application for each messaging service (MSN,
Icq, Yahoo, AIM, etc), and that didn't stop multi-protocol clients to
become popular (Kopete, Pidgin, Trillian, Meebo, etc). I think it is
just a matter of doing it right.

I am the current developer of the telephony application, maybe we should
talk a bit more about the possibilities on implementing that?

Cheers

Boiko





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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [App] WhatsApp for Ubuntu Phone (alpha)

2013-03-04 Thread Mika Meskanen 
I had a chat about this with Gustavo today, and based on that I think it's
clear that the design team need to provide a generic and scalable user
experience within "Telephony" for multiple services and accounts – be it
Skype, WhatsApp, Google Talk or something else. Luckily, that's always been
on the roadmap :)

Considering Ubuntu's cross-platform convergence, that'd also be a client
that would work across the board, on the phone, tablet and desktop.

However, it appears that WhatsApp does not provide an open API. I suspect
there are legal issues with that.


Regards,
Mika




On 4 March 2013 19:04, Daniel Holm  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I would also rather have the one-app integration. One of the things I
> really love about Ubuntu is to have all of my IM accounts in one
> application. Thats the Ubuntu way ;)
>
> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>  Daniel Holm
>  IT Consultant
>  Web Developer
>  Student
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> Den mån  4 mar 2013 19:43:52 skrev Renato Araujo Oliveira Filho:
>
>  On 03/04/2013 03:13 PM, Matthias Gehre wrote:
>>
>>> I saw at 
>>> http://telepathy.freedesktop.**org/wiki/Telepathy%20Pythonthat
>>> telepathy-python is deprecated, and at I was told at
>>> #telepathy that pygobject and telepathy-glib does not work either.
>>>
>> Yes,  telepathy phyton is deprecated.
>>
>>>
>>> Can anyone enlighten me, if there is a supported way to write
>>> telepathy plugins in python?
>>>
>> I do not think so.
>>
>>  If not, which backend is recommended? libtelepathy-glib or
>>> libtelepathy-qt5?
>>>
>> I asked a colabora engennier and he told me that, both are maintained by
>> collabora,  glib has more people working on that.
>> I would say to go with qt I think Gustavo is using that on telephony-app
>> and he can help you on that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] Why is there not a Browser or music app in the core app?

2013-03-18 Thread Mika Meskanen 
Just to clarify, the browser is already included in the Touch Preview
image, and it's being worked on.

Cheers,
Mika



On 15 March 2013 16:03, Shane Guignard  wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I was curious to know why we are not trying to create a Ubuntu browser?
> I have some ideas but want to know it there was a reasoning that it was
> not included.
>
> Second thing,
> Music player, seen it in the Developer preview but it was essentially an
> image with no functionality.
> I am wondering why this is not included in the Core Apps either? A good
> music player is an essential part of a smart phone. I have some great ideas
> for this as well and I am sad that it wasn't included in the Core Apps.
>
>
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