Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Premium] Initial Ubuntu Cordova project/Qt Creator feedback

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi guys,

Recently I was tasked to write a simple HTML5 Ubuntu ToDo app to test ease
of use of our Ubuntu SDK. While I haven't finished it yet (moving items
from jQuery-like looks to Ubuntu themed), I wanted to share my initial
findings and first use of Qt Creator experience.

Qt Creator:
 - Delete a file from project browser, file is still there [re-open project
required]
 - Create a new directory in the file system, no refresh option [re-open
project required]
 - Why does a closed project disappear from the 'Projects' list, instead of
just 'closing' and staying in there, so I can reopen it later? (Yes, I come
from Eclipse..)
 - When creating a project, I dislike that build-*-Desktop-{Debug|Release}
reside outside of the project directory. Also, are I missing a "Mobile"
kit? Why 'Desktop' kit?
 - Right click on project -> I can't add a folder from here.

SDK tutorials:
bzr branch lp:ubuntu-sdk-tutorials
 - How do I import ubuntu-cordova project into Qt Creator in a sane way?
.cordovaproject will not open in Qt Creator like .qmlproject will.

I initially sent this e-mail to my team, asking which mailing list it fits
best. I have forwarded the rest of this e-mail regarding feedback on
http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/html5/creating-cordova-ubuntu-qr-code-scanner-html5-app/2/
directly to David Planella.

This is the first time I have used Qt Creator, and at this moment I'm
mostly interested in the HTML5 POV. Your feedback is very welcome.

Thanks,
Michał Karnicki
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[Ubuntu-phone] Does qmlscene support translation when launched from qtc?

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi guys,

I was following [1], [2] and [3] and come to conclusion that qmlscene
doesn't support i18n.dtr well, does it? I was trying to make it work for
the workshop I'm leading on Monday, but I failed to translate a single
Korean string running qmlscene.

I assumed domain for Korean is "kr", created the messages.pot, created
kr.po, and generated .mo file. qmlscene doesn't pick up kr translation
using i18n.dtr("kr", ..)

Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

karni

[1]
http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/qml-ubuntu-components0-i18n.html
[2]
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mitya57/touchwriter/touchwriter/view/head:/README.mkd
[3] https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntukylin-members/msg00409.html

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Thoughts on inhibiting app suspend via application lifecycle

[Michal Karnicki]

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Alberto Mardegan <
alberto.marde...@canonical.com> wrote:

> The case of an application using the GPS is interesting. The nice
> thing here is that the system can know that the GPS is on and that the
> application is listening to it, so it could let the application run
> even when in the background, without the need for a specific policy flag.
> Conversely, if the GPS is off, there's generally no point in letting a
> GPS application to continue running, and it could be stopped.
>

It is worth nothing that application that is listening to GPS in
'foreground' doesn't mean the app should keep working/the phone awake. For
example, an app that attaches GPS location to a post, while we're on the
edit screen, need not keep the device (or, GPS, for that matter) on. The
system could safely go to sleep, instead draining power if the user left
the app on the edit post page. On the flip side, as it has been already
noted, there's a number of apps that require GPS on, even when they move to
background. I personally find Android APIs convenient in that respect. It
is the responsibility of the developer to consume as little power as
possible, otherwise the app would get bad reviews. While I find the idea of
containing the resource resolution as a platform responsibility
interesting, if we go that route, I think we'll overcomplicate the solution
to the problem.

As far as UI/daemon split is concerned, that makes perfect sense
(incidentally, just like on Android). Whether the metronome should ship
with a deamon - perhaps that's too much, but why not? We should recognize
the fact that it is complicated to communicate with background services as
area for improvement on our end.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Predictive text

[Michal Karnicki]

Hey guys,

Just learned it how to do it today with help from ogra @ #ubuntu-touch.
Please find the script attached.

DISCLAIMER: It can crash the galaxy nexus hard and that it hasn't been
tested on mako and grouper.

I just successfully took a screenshot of my N4 screen. (call the script
from host machine, not the phone).

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Push Notifications Beta, please help test.

[Michal Karnicki]

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Robert Park wrote:

> 2014/04/07 21:03:50.875199 DEBUG ping.
> 2014/04/07 21:04:51.108191 DEBUG ping.
> 2014/04/07 21:05:51.324794 DEBUG ping.
> 2014/04/07 21:06:51.541733 DEBUG ping.
>

​Does this mean there's a routine 'ping' each minute to keep the connection
alive?



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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 11.04.14

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On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Didier Roche  wrote:

> predictive text in password entry


Do I understand correctly we now have text completion in password fields.. ?



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[Ubuntu-phone] Testing rest scope on the device

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi guys,

While developing a rest scope (lp:ubuntu-rest-scopes) I found there was no
convenient way to test the scope on a real device itself. Here's a way you
can achieve that.

0. First, ensure your work machine and phone are on the same network

On your work machine in ubuntu-rest-scopes/
1) Update server entry in configs/development.yaml to reflect your
workstation IP, e.g.
server: http://192.168.1.10:8000
2) make start

On the phone, in adb shell:
$ su - phablet
$ /sbin/stop smart-scopes-proxy
$ /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/smartscopesproxy/smartscopesproxy
http://YOUR_IP:8000 /usr/share/unity-scopes-api/Runtime.ini &
$ /sbin/restart scope-registry

Now browse the Scopes scope, launch your scope and enjoy.

Note that rest scope icons won't show up in the "Scopes scope", because of
licensing they don't live in lp:ubuntu-rest-scopes.

Thanks to mhr3, Saviq, and Facundo.

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[Ubuntu-phone] Using LocationService from C++

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi all,

Before I spend more time trying to wrap my head around
​/usr/share/LocationService/doc (from ubuntu-location-service-doc)
which is basically a list of classes and interfaces,

has anyone used Ubuntu location service from C++ or knows of piece of C++
code that makes use of it, that I could have a look at?

Bonus question, does anyone know how can I make use of
ubuntu-location-service-examples, which seems to not contain any examples?
(No irony, legitimate question.)

Any pointers highly appreciated, thanks!
karni
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Using LocationService from C++

[Michal Karnicki]

On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Michal Karnicki <
michal.karni...@canonical.com> wrote:

> Bonus question, does anyone know how can I make use of
> ubuntu-location-service-examples, which seems to not contain any examples?
> (No irony, legitimate question.)
>

​Thanks to Chris, this is the answer to my second question:
apt-get source ubuntu-location-service-examples​

​First question holds, nevertheless, for more usage examples that I'm not
aware of :)​


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [telegram] New phone number

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi Marco,

Thank you for filing the bug. I agree with Nathan, if you're logged in on
any client you still have access, you should receive a message from
Telegram with a one time code when you attempt to log in elsewhere (before
you receive an SMS).

Current app version does not support phone number transfer. It's not added
yet in the new one (changing username is for instance, but that's
irrelevant).

If your phone was stolen, and you manage to sign in to your account, make
sure to "Terminate all other sessions", which will effectively sign you out
of Telegram on other clients when they establish connection (say, the
stolen phone on WiFi).

HTH,
karni

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Julia Palandri <
julia.palan...@canonical.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Marco F  wrote:
>
>> Hi and thanks for the reply.
>>
>> Indeed, the web version of telegram should work. But the thing is, I no
>> longer have my old phone so I can't receive the SMS to log in...
>> The only way to change the phone number is via any already logged in
>> phones (i.e. my ubuntu phone)
>>
>
> If you're still logged in with your phone, you can receive a code to login
> via webogram. If webogram supports this, you can do it then. Otherwise, you
> might be able to do it on another device/app and then just log in in the
> phone with your new number.
>
> You might want to add a request here, too, to have it supported in newer
> versions: https://bugs.launchpad.net/libqtelegram
>
> Best,
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANNOUNCEMENT: New CI Train site design

[Michal Karnicki]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Robert Park 
wrote:

> > One suggestion: would it be possible to move the menus to the left? I
> think
> > it would be more intuitive.
>
> This I'm not sure about. I chose the right side for a couple reasons:
> * It's easier for thumbing on mobile (and I do use the site on mobile a
> lot)
>

​I cannot express how much I applaud​ that choice. I may not be the user,
but it's been a while since I started wondering why the heck "main menu"
buttons of apps (on most platforms?) as well as (quite often) website menus
are usually in the furthest corner from the thumb of a right handed
person.​ Makes no sense to me. In general I wouldn't mind if the menu was
on the left if the website's viewed on desktop though.


> I do agree generally that "menu on right" is unconventional,


Unconventional, and so more useful at the same time. If it wasn't for how
typing machines worked, probably none of us would be typing on QWERTY today.

OR, we could create a launchpad team for people who prefer lefthanded
> menus and then the display could alternate based on membership in that
> team :-D
>

​This made me laugh so bad =D​

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram app v. 2.0.0.4 is broken

[Michal Karnicki]

Hello advocataux,

Allow me to reply inline:

It seems it doesn't read (import) the previous configuration because it has
> asked me twice for "select a country" and "write your phone number".
>

​While it's not expected it would ask you to re-login, I would only suspect
you've hit the "You've been signed out" bug from the previous version. If
so, that could manifest itself this way.​



> After doing so, and after introducing the login code sent by Telegram
> (once again), I've been logged successfully.
>
> Then I've tried to import Contacts and it doesn't work.
>

​Can you explain in more detail how it doesn't work? Perhaps you're trying
to import phone numbers that don't include country codes? It's currently a
shortcoming, we recognize we should be prepending default user's country
code​ user to make the import experience work better.


> Is there a bug report filed already?
>
> What info should I attached to the bug report?
>

​Please file bugs for each separate issue, describing exactly what state
you had before, and what happened, and we can take it from there.​

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram app v. 2.0.0.4 is broken

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi advocatux,

Just now I filed a bug for you. Feel free to subscribe to bug mail for
contact import here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/telegram-app/+bug/1517365

Thank you for sending in your feedback!
karni

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 12:53 AM, advocatux  wrote:

> Hi karni, thank you for your reply.
>
> My answers are inline too.
>
> El 17/11/15 a las 21:34, Michal Karnicki escribió:
>
>> [-snipped-]
>> ​While it's not expected it would ask you to re-login, I would only
>> suspect
>> you've hit the "You've been signed out" bug from the previous version. If
>> so, that could manifest itself this way.​
>>
>
> I think you're right. Not a problem for me now because it seems it's
> working properly.
>
> [-snipped-]
>>> Then I've tried to import Contacts and it doesn't work.
>>>
>>> ​Can you explain in more detail how it doesn't work? Perhaps you're
>> trying
>> to import phone numbers that don't include country codes? It's currently a
>> shortcoming, we recognize we should be prepending default user's country
>> code​ user to make the import experience work better.
>>
>
> You nailed it again. I've tried to import a contact again but adding the
> country code previously and then it works.
>
> [-snipped-]
>>>
>>> ​Please file bugs for each separate issue, describing exactly what state
>> you had before, and what happened, and we can take it from there.​
>>
>> Thanks,
>> karni
>>
>
>
> Do I still need to open a bug for the country code thing or as you're
> working on it already it isn't necessary?
>
> Thank you again.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram can't login

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Hi b3hrooz,

Please update to Telegram v2 now available in Ubuntu app store, thanks!

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 9:44 AM,  wrote:

>
> Hello I install Telegram client native on N4 after register number and
> recive sms telegram login for 2 secend then logout and show me error .i
> attach screen shot error.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram secret chat

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi guys,

Thanks for reports (and Randall for filing bugs). I will be doing some
maintenance tomorrow and will do my best to look into this as well.

Thanks,
karni

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Randall Ross   wrote:

>
>
> On 11/25/2015 08:24 AM, Nikos Chatziioakimidis wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am heavily using the secret chat feature of telegram but it is far
> > from usable. Very often one of the communicating parties stops
> > receiving messages and you have to start a new secret chat.
> >
> > I would like to ask if anybody else in this list use it (secret chat)
> > and how he/she finds it.
>
> Same experience here.
>
> There are two issues I've noticed (v2):
>
> 1) "Orphaned" secret chats that appear in the chat list but are not
> active and cannot be deleted.
> (See https://bugs.launchpad.net/telegram-app/+bug/1518043.)
>
> 2) Secret chats that appear to be active, but aren't. They are silently
> disconnected. The parties receive no messages from each other, yet they
> appear as sent.
> (See https://bugs.launchpad.net/telegram-app/+bug/1517118.)
>
> Cheers,
> Randall.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi all,

Let me start by addressing the link provided in the first e-mail.

It is sufficient for a Telegram client to change setting to not show "last
seen" and hence not emit the "online/offline" messages. It is also true
Telegram for Ubuntu doesn't currently provide such setting - and Randal has
filed a bug for this [1] (thank you sturmflut for instructing on the proper
bug title). Therefore, I believe it's a bit of over-generalization to claim
Telegram (as a product) is not "safe" in itself. I don't want to get too
much into this particular thread - but the article assumes your friends are
the ones stalking you - you need the *users phone number* and the *user's
friends phone numbers*. Additionally, you can simply turn the thing of
(hopefully soon in our app as well), and no more there are presence
notifications sent.

Going back to the bug, which Matthias has filed a while ago, we have
reviewed it and I'm glad to say we found a middle ground. To avoid everyone
having to open the site, I will simply re-state the comment here:








*Hi all,In a private conversation with Matthias I said I hoped we would
revisit this matter when Telegram 2.x was out. Now that it happened, and
this bug report has been brought again to my attention, we have reviewed
it. We have a solution that I believe would satisfy the requirements set by
the bug description.The proposed solution is the following:The application
may provide a setting to turn off "send message read notifications for
received messages". The user who chooses to do that will in turn not see
"message read notifications for sent messages". I think it is fair and that
is a solution we are happy to go ahead with.While we will do our best to
continue maintaining and hopefully growing Telegram for Ubuntu, we are
currently short on cycles. Therefore, we would be more than happy to accept
a merge proposal with this feature, we simply can't commit to it at the
moment as there are more higher priority bugs right now. But I am changing
the bug status from "Won't fix" right now.*

Have a great day,
karni

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/telegram-app/+bug/1521391
[2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/telegram-app/+bug/1475915

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Matthias Apitz  wrote:

> El día Monday, November 30, 2015 a las 10:32:18PM +0100, sturmflut
> escribió:
>
> > Good evening dear list,
> >
> > I don't consider this discussion on-topic. Canonical "just" ports and
> > ships an open-source Telegram client for Ubuntu and has no influence on
> > any design decisions the Telegram team made. Read notifications are such
> > a design decision, the "last seen" status can be hidden and adding a
> > switch for it should be a topic for a bug report.
> >
> > Anything else should be discussed in the appropriate Telegram forums.
> >
> > Also if Canonical have at any point made official statements about
> > privacy or security issues in Telegram then I have not gotten that memo,
> > please refer me to it in private. As far as I can see Canonical do not
> > even mention the words "private" or "secure" in the app store
> description.
>
> Hi,
>
> The full discussion and the statements of Canonical re/ the read
> notification one can read in the archives around July this year
> and in LP in the issue:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/telegram-app/+bug/1475915
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi Matthias,

Glad we reached middle ground. I can't tell when this will happen, but I
hope we receive a contributed patch before we have time on our hands to get
to it ourselves :) We'll definitely update the bug when there's activity
around it.

Have a great day,
karni


On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Matthias Apitz  wrote:

>
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:57:17 +0100
>> Michal Karnicki  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Going back to the bug, which Matthias has filed a while ago,
>>> we have reviewed it and I'm glad to say we found a middle
>>> ground. To avoid everyone having to open the site, I will
>>> simply re-state the comment here:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> In a private conversation with Matthias I said I hoped we
>>> would revisit this matter when Telegram 2.x was out. Now that
>>> it happened, and this bug report has been brought again to my
>>> attention, we have reviewed it. We have a solution that I
>>> believe would satisfy the requirements set by the bug
>>> description.
>>>
>>> The proposed solution is the following:
>>> The application may provide a setting to turn off "send
>>> message read notifications for received messages". The user
>>> who chooses to do that will in turn not see "message read
>>> notifications for sent messages". I think it is fair and that
>>> is a solution we are happy to go ahead with.
>>>
>>> While we will do our best to continue maintaining and
>>> hopefully growing Telegram for Ubuntu, we are currently short
>>> on cycles. Therefore, we would be more than happy to accept a
>>> merge proposal with this feature, we simply can't commit to it
>>> at the moment as there are more higher priority bugs right
>>> now. But I am changing the bug status from "Won't fix" right
>>> now.
>>>
>>> Have a great day,
>>> karni
>>>
>>> [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/telegram-app/+bug/1521391
>>> [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/telegram-app/+bug/1475915
>>>
>>>
> Hi Michal,
>
> This is really good news that you will make this what Telegam calls a
> "feature" to be able to switched off by the user. It will make me return to
> use the app.
> Do you have any idea of the time when it will happen. And I would be happy
> to test it as I have two devices BQ E4.5. Thanks
>
> matthias
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram

[Michal Karnicki]

Hey, that's great to hear, thanks folks :)

karni

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Dave Morley  wrote:

> On Sunday, 6 December 2015 01:56:55 GMT, Víctor R. Ruiz wrote:
>
>>   Hi:
>>
>>   I'm addicted to Telegram. Until recently, I was using the web app
>> version. In some groups I receive hundreds of messages everyday. That
>> activity prevented telegram-app from behaving fast at start. But not
>> anymore! The last update was awesome and I have now switched to
>> telegram-app "full time". While I wait for sticker support and other
>> niceties, I wanted to thanks to all telegram-app developers. Keep up
>> the good work, guys!
>>
>>   Greetings,
>>
>>
> Between telegram and dekko about 90% of my messaging needs are covered.
> They are both awesome.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Messaging and notifications

[Michal Karnicki]

May be related:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1507510

On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Guillaume F  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm not sure where to file these bugs so I thought I'd ask the list first.
>
> We have two bq 4.5 at home and these past few days we've been having some
> issues with messaging and notifications. Sometimes we don't receive any
> notification for an incoming SMS, sometimes the phone only vibrates (even
> though silent mode is off). Today it works fine on my phone, so it seems to
> be a bit erratic.
>
> Also, I've noticed a few times that I receive messages right when I turn
> the screen on. It might be a coincidence, but I think it has happened a
> little bit to often for that… I don't think I've seen this before OTA8.
>
> Where should I file a bug? Which log file should I attach?
>
> Thanks for your work and your time.
>
>
> Guillaume
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] delay time

[Michal Karnicki]

I have reached out to Telegram. I've been told they have addressed they
issue, although it's something I still have on the radar, since users
continue to either receive delayed notifications or none at all.

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Behrooz Ramezani <
b3hrooz.ram3z...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello
> No i don't.
>
> On Monday, December 21, 2015 11:49:34 AM IRST, Tomas Öqvist wrote:
>
>> Yep, that happens to me too sometimes. Have you filed a bug?
>>
>> Tomas
>>
>>
>> Den 2015-12-20 kl. 20:48, skrev Behrooz Ramezani:
>>
>>> Hello
>>> I have an issue on Telegram.Sometimes Telegram is open i receive a new
>>> massage but ubuntu show me a notification with delay time. Dose anyone have
>>> this issue?
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Replay on telegram

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi Behrooz,

There's no option to reply yet (probably a few LOC away though), but the
app does show the message being replied to when used from other clients
though.

Best,
karni

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Behrooz Ramezani <
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> Hello everyone
> is there replay massege on telegram? i can't find it.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Push API

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On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Sam Bull  wrote:

> How does Ubuntu's Push API relate to the new W3C Push API?
>

​I believe it doesn't in terms that it has nothing to do with it. However,
most concepts match.



> Please correct me if I'm wrong, but at the moment I believe Ubuntu has
> a custom Push notification service,
>

​True (just like Google for Android and Apple for iOS).​


> which requires any service wanting
> to use push notifications on Ubuntu to implement a custom solution for
> this specific platform.
>

Most if not all of concepts described in chapter 4. Concepts of the
document you are pointing to match the concepts in Ubuntu Push (and
probably the other platform push providers as well, I would guess), our *push
helper* being the *service worker,* for instance. I believe Ubuntu push is
also supported in webapps.

Realistically, this doesn't happen, and our
> selection of available providers is limited to those that Canonical
> implement themselves.
>

​I see what you're saying here. You have a point there. With Telegram, we
basically approached them and said "here's how push works, can you send us
pushes as well?" and they did that quite easily actually [1]. Indeed it
feels like a "critical mass" matter. Indeed it seems it would be easier to
support push for apps on Ubuntu if we used this standardized API. I'm
afraid however we would, at least in foreseeable future, not have cycles to
allocate for that (note this is my private opinion), unless management
recognizes this would be a great deal for Ubuntu.

Cheers,
karni

[1] note: there have been known issues, but turned out to be on Telegram's
end, things have improved a lot recently in terms of notifications for
Telegram.


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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] telegram sound bug

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi Wayne,

Here's the bug report:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1534776

Cheers,
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On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Wayne Ward  wrote:

> Small bug with either telegram or music player
> Play music
> telegram gets message and notification stops music playing
> which app has the bug?
> I use emby through my web app to play music instead
> notification from telegram comes in
> emby keeps playing music
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Preferred Settings API for Ubuntu apps

[Michal Karnicki]

I agree with what Michael said. Qt labs settings turned out to be a very
simple drop-in solution for some basic setting storage we required in an
app that we're developing. I had a look at the comparison document, and I
also agree that the upstream implementation seems much simpler/more
compact. I do not have much experience with U1Db, so I can't express
opinion on that end, but I found Qt labs settings to be simple and
convenient way to store (at least basic) settings.

I also like the idea that mhall suggested regarding wrapping the upstream
component (if that would be feasible).

Thanks,
karni


On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Michael Hall  wrote:

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> The Qt.labs API definitely seems simpler, and has the advantage of
> being compatible with other Qt-supported platforms.  On the other
> hand, the propose Ubuntu Settings API has the added advantage of being
> able to specify persistence and syncing on a per-group basis.
>
> Would it be possible for the Ubuntu Settings to simply wrap the
> Qt.labs.Settings and add the persistence and sync properties?  That
> way developers can target it without having to change anything else in
> their app, and also giving us the option of continuing that component
> if upstream drops Qt.labs.Settings, of if it becomes official and
> changes namespace we can simply update our component, app developers
> wouldn't have to do anything.
>
> Michael Hall
> mhall...@ubuntu.com
>
> On 07/29/2014 12:26 PM, Christian Dywan wrote:
> > Hey everyone,
> >
> > the subject of settings has come up again recently and there've
> > been Ubuntu.Components Settings under development which were
> > blocking on CI for some time. Whilst it was under development some
> > people tried out the new Qt.labs.settings which then came out. So
> > it makes sense to review both fully side by side now to see what
> > technology we prefer for storing app settings.
> >
> > Zsombor, Florian and I discussed it initially. Nekhelesh, Michael,
> > Olivier and Michał got a chance to see it to get obvious questions
> > sorted out. Finally we want all interested app devs to have the
> > chance to check it out, and review it before making a decision.
> >
> > The basic requirements are 1) Store app settings 2) Easy to use 3)
> > Can later be extended to support sync with the cloud
> >
> > Both Ubuntu.Components Settings (based on U1Db) and
> > Qt.labs.settings (exchangeable backends) can feasibly be updated to
> > support sync in the next iteration - based on the technical
> > evaluation.
> >
> > Qt.labs.settings is officially experimental API and not supported
> > by Qt. But it would make apps work more easily with other Qt
> > platforms which is an obvious advantage. So that's the kind of
> > compromise choosing Qt.labs.settings would mean.
> >
> > This nice document was prepared by Florian with examples at the
> > bottom comparing side-by-side the different APIs
> >
> > Please everyone interested have a look
> >
> >
> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1ZC4whqRT1Hf1xg7czvElUWSJ6JzkKMdWamt56Vhl1eU/edit#heading=h.132afdtxso0j
> >
> >  Question to all reviewers
> >
> > - Which API do you prefer given the examples and features for use
> > in all of your apps - Please point out any benefits and drawbacks
> > you see with either API and reply to this thread
> >
> > Regards, Christian
> >
> >
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Preferred Settings API for Ubuntu apps

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi guys,

Have there been any decisions/activity in the subject? We currently use
Qt.labs.settings in one of the apps and sadly need to install the qml
package each time we flash the device.

Thanks,
karni


On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Christian Dywan <
christian.dy...@canonical.com> wrote:

> On 31.07.2014 19:45, Sam Bull wrote:
> > On ĵaŭ, 2014-07-31 at 17:44 +0200, Christian Dywan wrote:
> >> From my point of view once you start dealing with objects you'll want
> >> U1db* and for instance save your object as a document.
> >>
> >> Do you have a specific example?
> > My app is a dictionary, and it contains translations for many languages.
> > I want to only display relevant languages to the user. For this, I use
> > an Object as a simple key/value store, with the key being the language
> > and the value a boolean as to whether it should be shown or not.
> >
> > I'd prefer the keys to not be hardcoded, as I load all the data
> > (including the list of languages) from downloaded data, so if a new
> > language were to be added to the list, then the app would check at the
> > beginning and see it missing from the saved Object and add a value for
> > it.
> >
> > Essentially, all I want is a simple Python dictionary.
> >
> > Although, having just explained all this, I've just realised a possibly
> > better solution would be to simply store an array of enabled languages,
> > and check if a language is in the array. Though, this would still be
> > better if the values were hashed, are there sets in Javascript, and
> > could they be saved?
> You can do [ "en", "fr" ] or { "en": "English", "fr": "French" } however
> they are object types in Javascript thus not allowed as settings values.
>
>
> QSettings has support for arrays in the C++ API
> http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qsettings.html#beginWriteArray
>
> It should be possible to extend the backend so that it detects arrays
> and stores them as such.
>
>
>
> As a short-term solution you could use a string instead like "en,fr".
>
> ciao,
> Christian
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram broken

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi Sam,

Riccardo pointed to the correct site where you can file a bug. It's the
first time I heard about the problem, so if you're a technical user, please
follow up with me off the list, and I'll provide instructions how we can
debug this.

If you'd just prefer to work around this and be on your way:

1. Install the "Terminal" app from Ubuntu store, launch it and provide your
PIN/pass to authorize the app.
2. Run this command: (note this will delete messages received in your
secret chats!!!)
rm .cache/com.ubuntu.telegram/
3. Re-launch Telegram (if it's running, swipe it away first from the app
switcher).

If you still have the problem, do the same with:
rm .config/com.ubuntu.telegram/+your_phone_number/auth
You'll have to re-log in at that point.

HTH,
karni


On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Riccardo Padovani 
wrote:

> May 19 2015 11:30 PM, "Sam Bull"  wrote:
> > It also appears there is nowhere to track bugs.
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/libqtelegram/+filebug
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram broken

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi guys,

Thanks for feedback. Since there's been more than one person reporting
this, perhaps there's a person that could send me the debug logs, so I can
understand better what the problem is.

If you have Ubuntu, and adb [1] installed, please turn on Developer Mode
(bottom of system settings, About Phone -> Developer Mode), hook up USB,
then:
$ adb shell touch /home/phablet/.config/com.ubuntu.telegram/.debug

This will enable some more verbose logging. At this point, you can try
reproduce the bug (no chats, or crash as I've read in one of the e-mails).

Once you see the problem,
adb shell "ls /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/application*telegram*.log"
pick the last one, and
adb pull 

Feel free to send me the log privately, off the list.

Thank you, and sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused,
karni

[1]
http://lifehacker.com/the-easiest-way-to-install-androids-adb-and-fastboot-to-1586992378

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Phil 
wrote:

> It's working ok for me, on Mako, both before and after today's update (it
> loads and seems to connect after the update, haven't received any messages
> yet)
>
> Phil
>
> 
> On Fri, 22/5/15, Marco F  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram broken
>  To: "ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net" 
>  Date: Friday, 22 May, 2015, 11:30
>
>  #yiv7996720979
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>  font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;}
>  #yiv7996720979 > Same problem here;
>  Telegram app starts, window with "no chats",
>  crash.
>
>  Same here
>  but it works on the second try to start the app, usually.
>
>  Marco
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Convergence on Ubuntu Touch Nexus 4 with slimport

[Michal Karnicki]

​I'd like to clarify on what Gerry wrote,

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Gerry Boland 
wrote:

> The code we demoed in your video just wasn't high enough
> quality to ship to all users.
>

​Not exactly, but without getting into details, the video​ shows completely
different project, which was Ubuntu for Android. I believe there was a
video clip out there of an in-development state of Ubuntu convergence
(which perhaps Gerry thought you shared), but these are not the same thing.


> We're still working on that, but it's a
> ​ ​
> high priority task for us.
>

​That is true.​ Meaning, we no longer would run Ubuntu off an Android
device, but we'd be much smarter about how we do these things, which is
very exciting.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] BQ4.5 damage, first report.

[Michal Karnicki]

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Michael Zanetti <
michael.zane...@canonical.com> wrote:

> > Sorry, but I keep thinking that if anyone who found a device which
> > is locked by a passcode, but SIM signed in, can accept any incoming
> > call, that this is a security issue.
>
> I guess I could agree, although, the other end is probably not going
> to give you bank details if the voice isn't what it expects...
>
> ​[...]
>
>
> > And keep in mind, the caller could be the attacker itself to get
> > access to this features on a normaly locked device.
>
> Also keep in mind that an incoming call does not unlock the phone. It
> just puts a stripped down version of the dialer on top of the lockscreen



​Until we have a feature of tracking down/manipulating/wiping a lost
device, showing PIN entry before accepting a call​ would be the worst
imaginable thing we could do. I also completely agree with what had been
said by my colleagues - such security must not come at a cost of expected
usability.

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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Brainstorm for more developers/apps

[Michal Karnicki]

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:10 AM, sturmflut  wrote:

> - Push notifications can only be delivered via a server that's hosted by
> Canonical.
>

​Just like Google Cloud Messaging, Apple Push Service​, and a few others. I
don't think there's anything out of order in that regard. You want the
phone to sustain a single connection and only talk to a single push service.


> You have to change all your own server-side code to use this
> service.
>

​I don't agree with "change all your own server-side code". Telegram
implemented push support in matter of hours.


> The service is currently highly unstable, I only get about half
> of the Telegram notifications I am supposed to receive.
>

​I'll let someone from the push team to comment on that. I have some
reservations as well in that regard.

Thanks,
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram

[Michal Karnicki]

It's occasionally unstable (I experienced timeouts using web.telegram.org),
but should work in general.

Sam, I'm working on resolving those issues, but it's a major change, I'll
need a little more time.
If you want to try clear app state (reinstalling as is won't help), you can
try the following (this will log you out, too):
close app, then
(Terminal app or adb shell)
rm -rf .cache/com.ubuntu.telegram
rm -rf .config/com.ubuntu.telegram

HTH,
karni

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Sam Bull  wrote:

> On Thu, 2015-07-16 at 10:30 +0300, Roman Shchekin wrote:
> > Ah, DDOS... I thought that it was bug - app started its crashes right
> > after I inserted new sim.
>
> I'm still getting this crash, is it still a DDoS attack? I received a
> message through Telegram, but the app still crashes when opening. Seems
> a lot like the crash that had been happening before the OTA-4 update...
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Call for testing] New Thumbnailer

[Michal Karnicki]

Attention,

​I believe the change involved has broken Telegram. We were dynamically
linking with libthumbnailer.so and making calls to
thumbnailer.get_thumbnail from C++. The application will not start on
rc-proposed.

http://paste.ubuntu.com/11892354/​

I'm asking in #unity-api, but have not yet received a reply.

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 5:53 AM, Michi Henning 
wrote:

> One more request:
>
> please test with *large* numbers of images/photos/videos/mp3. 2000 or more
> is good start.
>
> To avoid having to copy tons of videos, mp3s or jpg images, you can just
> make hard links to a single file. The name of the link is part of the cache
> key, so the effect is the same as having lots of separate files, and you
> don't have to copy hundreds of megabytes around that way.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michi.
>
>
> On 27 Jun 2015, at 13:48 , Michi Henning 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 27 Jun 2015, at 13:36 , Victor Thompson 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Have there been any recent changes to the silo? Testing looked good
> >> the last time I personally checked, if there are deltas let me know
> >> and I'll test as well.
> >
> > The main delta is that, on Arm, we are now limiting the number of
> concurrent gstreamer pipelines to 1 because anything else is too risky.
> > On other architectures, we use as many gstreamer pipelines as there are
> CPU cores. You should see around 780% CPU utilization on an 8-core machine
> with heavy workloads, such as thumbnailing a whole bunch of videos at once.
> >
> > Once the cache is hot, it delivers the thumbnails *very* fast. Please
> test your applications not only with a cold cache, but also a hot one; the
> way memory allocations happen is markedly different that way.
> >
> > If you want to clean the cache and start afresh, just run
> >
> > thumbnailer-admin clear
> >
> > That wipes the cache completely.
> >
> > You can see cache statistics by running
> >
> > thumbnailer-admin stats -v
> >
> > Please keep an eye out for requests with an invalid QSize (width or
> height == -1). Get rid of all of these. Instead, ask for the thumbnail in
> the size you need it. This drives the cache in the most efficient way
> possible.
> >
> > Your application must be prepared to handle a smaller thumbnail than
> what it asked for because we never up-scale. If original artwork is
> available only as 512 and you ask for 640, the actual thumbnail you get
> will be 512. You are guaranteed that you will never get something larger
> than what you ask for, unless you ask for (0,0), in which case we deliver
> full size. (Don't do this unless there is a good chance that you will need
> the same image again shortly; otherwise, it just eats space in the cache
> and makes it less effective.)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Michi.
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram

[Michal Karnicki]

>> there should be a new telegram app landing soon

Correct, released a few hours ago to the store, Telegram version 1.3.20.114

>> the rc-proposed channel dropped a dependency that the app shouldnt have
used

Well, the matter's vague whether we could or should not have, but most
importantly, we caught that in time, and resolved the matter. (The
discussion on the subject had taken place in a different thread.)

> In terms of "apps for human beings" I think telegram is [...] a first
class user experience.

I am glad to hear that. We're working hard to actually improve it.

Have a good day,
karni


On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Mitchell Reese 
wrote:

> Great, thanks for the update.
>
> M
>
>
> On Tuesday, 21 July 2015 8:20:55 PM AEST, Oliver Grawert wrote:
>
>> hi,
>> Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2015, 20:09 +1000 schrieb Mitchell Reese:
>>
>>> Hey folks, I keep getting a white screen when I open the telegram app -
>>> very odd. Have tried deleting telegrams cache, local folder, config files,
>>> and finally deleting the app from my custom folder and reinstalling it from
>>> the store. On bq aquarius, rc-proposed. Any idea how to fix this? Thanks.
>>>
>>
>> there should be a new telegram app landing soon, the rc-proposed channel
>> dropped a dependency that the app shouldnt have used so telegram is
>> broken for all rc-proposed users currently (started right after the OTA
>> imae was branched off, so users of "stable" are not affected)
>>
>> ciao
>> oli
>>
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram, stickers, location and vocal messages

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi all,

- stickers -- planned in next major revision; implemented, but have to look
into webp format support
- locations -- not planned for near future, but should be fairly easy to add
- voice messages -- planned in next major revision; mostly implemented, but
have to look into opus format support
- Telegram in Ubuntu Core Apps PPA -- desktop version is planned for in a
couple months. As a workaround, I would (personally) recommend
web.telegram.org or Cutegram client

Sorry for the delay on features folks. I'm working on next major revision,
which will be more reliable, performant, and will bring new features (if
not on the day of release [which should at least match 1.x feature-wise,
then certainly soon after).

Best,
karni

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Nathan Haines  wrote:

> On 07/16/2015 12:07 AM, Davide Alberelli wrote:
>
>> I am becoming sick of the "unsupported" error message... Not even
>> talking about having to use a computer or android to see them!
>>
>
> Although speaking of that, I'd sure like to see Telegram pop up in the
> Ubuntu Core Apps PPA for the desktop.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Bug 1475915] Re: as receiver of messages switch-off received notifications

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi Matthias,

I appreciate your feedback and reasoning, but I stand by what Nathan here
said in all his previous e-mails (for which I thank, as I think they are
constructive and correct). Note that we will, when time allows, also
support "consumption" of media messages - which means if you view a video
or listen to an audio your *friend* has sent you, we will notify them about
that fact. This is how Telegram is expected to work, and one of the reasons
why people actually like it. We understand this may not be a fit-all
solution, but we do not plan to allow disabling this features. However, if
you do reach out to Telegram and convince them for clients to allow such
setting, we can re-open the bug you have filed.

Thanks,
karni

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Nathan Haines  wrote:

> On 07/22/2015 10:42 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote:
>
>> The point is, that even between trusted and identified person every side
>> should be able to let the sender in the unsureness if the message
>> arrived to his/her eyes or not. This is what privacy is called and which
>> is violated by Telegram.
>>
>
> No, Telegram is specifically only for messages where you want delivery
> assurance and read receipts.  If you need to communicate without that,
> there's a perfectly good way to do that and it's called SMS.
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Bug 1475915] Re: as receiver of messages switch-off received notifications

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi Matthias,

I've contacted Telegram Task Force about this matter and asked them to
address your concerns. I told them I would forward the reply here, or they
could e-mail you directly. I have provided them with your e-mail address,
as you have posted to a public mailing list, so I hope you don't have a
problem with that. I also asked to be Cc'ed on the reply, should they
contact you directly.

Thanks,
karni

On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Matthias Apitz  wrote:

> El día Thursday, July 23, 2015 a las 09:36:25AM +0200, Michal Karnicki
> escribió:
>
> > Hi Matthias,
> >
> > I appreciate your feedback and reasoning, but I stand by what Nathan here
> > said in all his previous e-mails (for which I thank, as I think they are
> > constructive and correct). Note that we will, when time allows, also
> > support "consumption" of media messages - which means if you view a video
> > or listen to an audio your *friend* has sent you, we will notify them
> about
> > that fact. This is how Telegram is expected to work, and one of the
> reasons
> > why people actually like it. We understand this may not be a fit-all
> > solution, but we do not plan to allow disabling this features. However,
> if
> > you do reach out to Telegram and convince them for clients to allow such
> > setting, we can re-open the bug you have filed.
>
> Hi Michal,
>
> I contacted Telegram.com some weeks ago about this topic. There was no
> reply or other reaction. If you know someone to contact directly, I
> am willing to ask again for this feature (or call it a bug, not beeing
> able to switch such notification off).
>
> For the moment, I have right now uninstalled the app in my BQ E4.5.
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram Bug

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi Mitchell,

Are you familar with adb? If yes,

adb shell pull
/home/phablet/.cache/upstart/application-click-com.ubuntu.telegram_telegram_1.3.20.114.log

Thank you,
karni

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Mitchell Reese 
wrote:

> Looks like it could be the same. How do I attach a telegram log?
>
> M
>
>
> On Friday, 31 July 2015 3:37:14 PM AEST, YC Cheng wrote:
>
>> Hi, not sure if this is something similar to what you see ?
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/libqtelegram/+bug/1479680
>>
>> If not, open bug there.
>>
>> YC
>>
>> 2015-07-31 12:56 GMT+08:00 Mitchell Reese :
>>
>> Hi, I've got a major problem with the native Telegram app - I keep getting
>>> logged out, with 'Unauthorised' as the message. This is very bizarre, as
>>> I
>>> didn't have a problem before the most recent update. Also, this isn't
>>> happening with Webogram (webapp based Telegram) on my BQ 4.5, nor on my
>>> laptop. This is definitely an issue with the Telegram app.
>>>
>>> Could someone please tell me how to troubleshoot this, and add a bug
>>> report? Is anyone else having issues with Telegram on their BQ 4.5 with
>>> rc-proposed?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mitchell
>>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram Bug

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi Mittchell,

I'm not experiencing the same problem using webogram and the app running on
Meizu / BQ phones. However, I left comments on the bug on lp as I'm trying
to reproduce the problem people have been reporting. Thanks for your
patience.

Sincerely,
karni

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:32 AM, Mitchell Reese 
wrote:

> Ok, have done some more troubleshooting with Telegram, and have discovered
> a few things:
>
> 1. This bug is definitely with the Ubuntu Touch client - there are no
>issues for me with either the Desktop Ubuntu Telegram client, or
>with the web interface.
> 2. This shows up on both a BQ and Nexus 7, both running rc-proposed
> 3. The bug seems related to conflicts with other devices - i.e., if I
>ONLY tun Telegram on my BQ device, all seems fine. When I use my
>laptop with the desktop version installed however, my BQ logs out.
>Same thing happens with the Nexus 7, except then BOTH the Nexus 7
>and BQ log out.
> 4. None of this happens using the webogram webapp with my Nexus 7 and
>BQ, ruling out Telegrams servers.
>
> Here's a pastebin of the log on my BQ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12017824
>
> Seems different from the bug below, so will create a separate one later
> tonight. Am interested to hear if other people are experiencing similar
> issues.
>
> Mitchell
>
>
> On 31/07/15 15:37, YC Cheng wrote:
>
>> Hi, not sure if this is something similar to what you see ?
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/libqtelegram/+bug/1479680
>>
>> If not, open bug there.
>>
>> YC
>>
>> 2015-07-31 12:56 GMT+08:00 Mitchell Reese > >:
>>
>> Hi, I've got a major problem with the native Telegram app - I keep
>> getting logged out, with 'Unauthorised' as the message. This is
>> very bizarre, as I didn't have a problem before the most recent
>> update. Also, this isn't happening with Webogram (webapp based
>> Telegram) on my BQ 4.5, nor on my laptop. This is definitely an
>> issue with the Telegram app.
>>
>> Could someone please tell me how to troubleshoot this, and add a
>> bug report? Is anyone else having issues with Telegram on their BQ
>> 4.5 with rc-proposed?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Mitchell
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram Bug

[Michal Karnicki]

Hi Mitchell,

Thanks for getting back to me. I'm running Cutegram on desktop and two
phones, all signed in to same account. I send a message and wait, no
crashes. I'm wondering if this may be affecting only far east, as the issue
has been reproduced by you (from Australia I assume :) ?) and three team
mates in Asia. I reached out to TTF again. We should not be receiving the
AUTH_KEY_UNREGISTERED.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Mitchell Reese 
wrote:

> Hi Karni, the problem mainly exists using multiple devices at the same
> time - is this how you are testing it? Will add a pastebin from my device
> to Launchpad later today.
> M
>
>
> On Tuesday, 11 August 2015 2:21:52 AM AEST, Michal Karnicki wrote:
>
>> Hi Mittchell,
>>
>> I'm not experiencing the same problem using webogram and the app running
>> on
>> Meizu / BQ phones. However, I left comments on the bug on lp as I'm trying
>> to reproduce the problem people have been reporting. Thanks for your
>> patience.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> karni
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:32 AM, Mitchell Reese > >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, have done some more troubleshooting with Telegram, and have discovered
>>> a few things:
>>>
>>> 1. This bug is definitely with the Ubuntu Touch client - there are no
>>>issues for me with either the Desktop Ubuntu Telegram client, or
>>>with the web interface.
>>> 2. This shows up on both a BQ and Nexus 7, both running rc-proposed
>>> 3. The bug seems related to conflicts with other devices - i.e., if I
>>>ONLY tun Telegram on my BQ device, all seems fine. When I use my
>>>laptop with the desktop version installed however, my BQ logs out.
>>>Same thing happens with the Nexus 7, except then BOTH the Nexus 7
>>>and BQ log out.
>>> 4. None of this happens using the webogram webapp with my Nexus 7 and
>>>BQ, ruling out Telegrams servers.
>>>
>>> Here's a pastebin of the log on my BQ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12017824
>>>
>>> Seems different from the bug below, so will create a separate one later
>>> tonight. Am interested to hear if other people are experiencing similar
>>> issues.
>>>
>>> Mitchell
>>>
>>>
>>> On 31/07/15 15:37, YC Cheng wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, not sure if this is something similar to what you see ?
>>>>
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/libqtelegram/+bug/1479680
>>>>
>>>> If not, open bug there.
>>>>
>>>> YC
>>>>
>>>> 2015-07-31 12:56 GMT+08:00 Mitchell Reese >>> <mailto:d...@curiouslegends.com.au>>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, I've got a major problem with the native Telegram app - I keep
>>>> getting logged out, with 'Unauthorised' as the message. This is
>>>> very bizarre, as I didn't have a problem before the most recent
>>>> update. Also, this isn't happening with Webogram (webapp based
>>>> Telegram) on my BQ 4.5, nor on my laptop. This is definitely an
>>>> issue with the Telegram app.
>>>>
>>>> Could someone please tell me how to troubleshoot this, and add a
>>>> bug report? Is anyone else having issues with Telegram on their BQ
>>>> 4.5 with rc-proposed?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mitchell
>>>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Telegram Bug

[Michal Karnicki]

webogram may be using a diffent DC/DCs. push notifications are delivered to
you via Ubuntu push intrastructure, so if you were forcefully signed out,
the app did not have a change to unregister from push messages with
Telegram. I still haven't received a reply from TTF, please stay put. I
don't need more details, I will continue try reproduce the problem,
probably iterate through other DC's manually.

Thanks,
karni

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Mitchell Reese 
wrote:

> i don't think its a Telegram server issue. At least, I don't think its
> only a telegram server issue...
>
> When I'm logged out, I still get notification messages from Telegram in
> the messaging icon. If it were something purely location based (i.e., a
> problem with their servers here) i would expect to not receive any
> notifications at all after being logged out. It seems likea bug on the
> client side. Also specific to the last release - the last two didn't have
> this problem, neither does Webogram.
>
> What can I do to further troubleshoot this issue?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mitchell
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 11 August 2015 7:14:55 PM AEST, Michal Karnicki wrote:
>
>> Hi Mitchell,
>>
>> Thanks for getting back to me. I'm running Cutegram on desktop and two
>> phones, all signed in to same account. I send a message and wait, no
>> crashes. I'm wondering if this may be affecting only far east, as the
>> issue
>> has been reproduced by you (from Australia I assume :) ?) and three team
>> mates in Asia. I reached out to TTF again. We should not be receiving the
>> AUTH_KEY_UNREGISTERED.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Mitchell Reese <
>> d...@curiouslegends.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Karni, the problem mainly exists using multiple devices at the same
>>> time - is this how you are testing it? Will add a pastebin from my device
>>> to Launchpad later today.
>>> M
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 11 August 2015 2:21:52 AM AEST, Michal Karnicki wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mittchell,
>>>>
>>>> I'm not experiencing the same problem using webogram and the app running
>>>> on
>>>> Meizu / BQ phones. However, I left comments on the bug on lp as I'm
>>>> trying
>>>> to reproduce the problem people have been reporting. Thanks for your
>>>> patience.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> karni
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:32 AM, Mitchell Reese <
>>>> d...@curiouslegends.com.au
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, have done some more troubleshooting with Telegram, and have
>>>> discovered
>>>>
>>>>> a few things:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. This bug is definitely with the Ubuntu Touch client - there are no
>>>>>issues for me with either the Desktop Ubuntu Telegram client, or
>>>>>with the web interface.
>>>>> 2. This shows up on both a BQ and Nexus 7, both running rc-proposed
>>>>> 3. The bug seems related to conflicts with other devices - i.e., if I
>>>>>ONLY tun Telegram on my BQ device, all seems fine. When I use my
>>>>>laptop with the desktop version installed however, my BQ logs out.
>>>>>Same thing happens with the Nexus 7, except then BOTH the Nexus 7
>>>>>and BQ log out.
>>>>> 4. None of this happens using the webogram webapp with my Nexus 7 and
>>>>>BQ, ruling out Telegrams servers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a pastebin of the log on my BQ:
>>>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12017824
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems different from the bug below, so will create a separate one later
>>>>> tonight. Am interested to hear if other people are experiencing similar
>>>>> issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mitchell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 31/07/15 15:37, YC Cheng wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, not sure if this is something similar to what you see ?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/libqtelegram/+bug/1479680
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If not, open bug there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> YC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-07-31 12:56 GMT+08:00 Mitchell Reese >>>>> <mailto:d...@curiouslegends.com.au>>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>