Re: [Ubuntu-manual] UDS meeting Manual Precise

2012-05-10 Thread Thorsten Wilms

On 05/10/2012 02:15 AM, Kevin Godby wrote:

Going forward, I think we should be more proactive in monitoring the
changes made to Ubuntu so we know what will need to be rewritten in
the manual.


If only changes to behavior or look could be gathered from commit 
messages ... to not go all pie-in-the-sky and wish for runnable 
specifications in literate programming style, which would be a most 
excellent source of the information this project needs ;)



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Re: [Ubuntu-manual] UDS meeting Manual Precise

2012-05-10 Thread Hannie Dumoleyn

Hi Patrick,
Sleep is important, it's a pity you could not attend. I think from our 
team only Kevin and I were present (and Joel of course). I found it a 
bit difficult to follow because the audio quality was poor, but luckily 
Kevin did all the chatting and typing (thank you, Kevin). Your questions 
have been discussed, and I suggest we talk about the Documentation 
method, and the other points discussed, on our next meeting.

Greets,
Hannie

Op 10-05-12 00:10, Patrick Dickey schreef:

Was anyone from the Ubuntu Documentation team in the summit meeting?
Sorry I missed it, but sleep is one of those strange things

My three questions were aimed at the Documentation team, as I think that
we could adopt some of their methods to reduce the lag time between when
a version of Ubuntu is released and when our manual is released.

If nothing else, once the feature freeze is in effect, we could start
writing our chapters (and only have to modify them as we get closer to
the release date--if something changes). Then we could do the
screenshots on the last beta/release candidate (or on the actual
release) and have the manual out within weeks--as opposed to months.

Just my .02 worth (2 cents worth for non US speakers).

Have a great day:)
Patrick.

On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 21:20 +0200, Hannie Dumoleyn wrote:

Hi all,
At the UDS meeting on 'our manual' several interesting things for the
future were discussed, see
http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20570/desktop-q-ubuntu-manual/
or below. I thought you might find it interesting.




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Re: [Ubuntu-manual] UDS meeting Manual Precise

2012-05-10 Thread John

On 05/10/2012 11:01 AM, Hannie Dumoleyn wrote:

Hi Patrick,
Sleep is important, it's a pity you could not attend. I think from our 
team only Kevin and I were present (and Joel of course). I found it a 
bit difficult to follow because the audio quality was poor, but 
luckily Kevin did all the chatting and typing (thank you, Kevin). Your 
questions have been discussed, and I suggest we talk about the 
Documentation method, and the other points discussed, on our next 
meeting.

Greets,
Hannie

Op 10-05-12 00:10, Patrick Dickey schreef:

Was anyone from the Ubuntu Documentation team in the summit meeting?
Sorry I missed it, but sleep is one of those strange things

My three questions were aimed at the Documentation team, as I think that
we could adopt some of their methods to reduce the lag time between when
a version of Ubuntu is released and when our manual is released.

If nothing else, once the feature freeze is in effect, we could start
writing our chapters (and only have to modify them as we get closer to
the release date--if something changes). Then we could do the
screenshots on the last beta/release candidate (or on the actual
release) and have the manual out within weeks--as opposed to months.

Just my .02 worth (2 cents worth for non US speakers).

Have a great day:)
Patrick.

On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 21:20 +0200, Hannie Dumoleyn wrote:

Hi all,
At the UDS meeting on 'our manual' several interesting things for the
future were discussed, see
http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20570/desktop-q-ubuntu-manual/
or below. I thought you might find it interesting.




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Sorry guys i forgot completely that our session was yesterday !

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[Ubuntu-manual] tex live installation

2012-05-10 Thread Wayne Roberts
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Hi All,

noob here, i have just installed tex live, and am having a small
issue, the install script ends with asking me to;

"Add /usr/local/texlive/2011/texmf/doc/man to MANPATH, if not
dynamically determined.
 Add /usr/local/texlive/2011/texmf/doc/info to INFOPATH."

but i dont a clue on how to do this!!
Can somebody please tell me?

Wayne


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Re: [Ubuntu-manual] tex live installation

2012-05-10 Thread Patrick Dickey
Hi Wayne,

First of all, you can check to see if it's added to the Path by opening
a terminal and typing "echo $PATH" without the quotes.

I'll be running through the installation this afternoon (CDT in the US)
(on 12.04) so I'll see what issues come up. Off hand, did you follow the
instructions from the ubuntu-manual website, or did you follow the
instructions from where you downloaded TexLive from?

Have a great day:)
Patrick.


On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 11:17 +0100, Wayne Roberts wrote: 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> noob here, i have just installed tex live, and am having a small
> issue, the install script ends with asking me to;
> 
> "Add /usr/local/texlive/2011/texmf/doc/man to MANPATH, if not
> dynamically determined.
>  Add /usr/local/texlive/2011/texmf/doc/info to INFOPATH."
> 
> but i dont a clue on how to do this!!
> Can somebody please tell me?
> 
> Wayne
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Ubuntu-manual] tex live installation

2012-05-10 Thread Steve Flynn
On 10 May 2012 11:17, Wayne Roberts  wrote:

> "Add /usr/local/texlive/2011/texmf/doc/man to MANPATH, if not
> dynamically determined.
>  Add /usr/local/texlive/2011/texmf/doc/info to INFOPATH."
>
> but i dont a clue on how to do this!!
> Can somebody please tell me?

edit ~/.profile and add them to the existing variables...

vi ~/.profile

add the lines below to the end of the file:

export INFOPATH=${INFOPATH}:/usr/local/texlive/2011/texmf/doc/info
export MANPATH=${MANPATH}:/usr/local/texlive/2011/texmf/doc/man

there should also be a note to add the installation location to PATH.
Depending on where you installed the software, you'll want to do
something like:

export PATH=${PATH}:/usr/local/bin


The /usr/local/bin bit might be different on your system - like I said
it depends on where you installed the software to.


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Re: [Ubuntu-manual] tex live installation

2012-05-10 Thread Wayne Roberts
Thanks Steve


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[Ubuntu-manual] Tex Live Installation

2012-05-10 Thread Tony Pursell
Hi All

I have got to para 7 of the instructions and ran

./install-pkgs.sh

and got an error.  In the log file it says

sudo: tlmgr: command not found
Error installing TeX packages. See install-pkgs.log for details.

AFAIK there is no command timgr on my system

Any ideas?
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Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Tex Live Installation

2012-05-10 Thread Kevin Godby
Hello, Tony.

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Tony Pursell
 wrote:
> I have got to para 7 of the instructions and ran
>
> ./install-pkgs.sh
>
> and got an error.  In the log file it says
>
> sudo: tlmgr: command not found
> Error installing TeX packages. See install-pkgs.log for details.
>
> AFAIK there is no command timgr on my system
>
> Any ideas?

Did you enable the creation of the symlinks (step 6.1)?  If not, you
should be able to create the symlinks with the following command:

  $ sudo /usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/x86_64-linux/tlmgr path add

(The x86_64-linux directory may be different on your system if you're
running 32-bit Linux or another platform. Similarly, if you installed
to a different location, you may need to adjust the entire path
leading up to the tlmgr command.)

Please let me know if that works or if you continue to have problems.

Thanks!

--Kevin

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[Ubuntu-manual] Author status report

2012-05-10 Thread Patrick Dickey
Here is an update on my status.

I've installed 12.04, and configured everything via the authors page on
the test.ubuntu-manual.org website (actually it's through a script that
I created a while back).

I skimmed through my chapter this evening, and have a few changes to
make.  One is the "Managing Groups" section needs to be removed--as it's
not an option in the default configuration of Unity.  Also (at least on
my "making" of the manual), I'm missing some screenshots (although I
think they're actually in the manual).

I'll read through it more in depth tomorrow, and will have a complete
list and the rough draft by May 31.

Have a great day:)
Patrick.

On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 11:12 -0500, Andrew Montag wrote:
> John, 
> 
> 
> As you requested, here is a status report:
> 
> 
> Done: 
> I have read the my chapter (Ubuntu One) in the previous manual
> release, and have been thinking about changes.
> Upgraded my machine to 12.04
> 
> 
> To-Do:
> Install bzr and latex software, download tex source. 
> Authoring as a whole.
> 
> 
> Issues: 
> none yet. 
> 
> 
> I have been very busy with final exams at University, but next week I
> will have lots of free time. I hope to have a first draft of my
> content done by next Friday, 11 May. 
> 
> -Andrew
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Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Author status report

2012-05-10 Thread Kevin Godby
Hey, Patrick.

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Patrick Dickey  wrote:
*snip*
> Also (at least on
> my "making" of the manual), I'm missing some screenshots (although I
> think they're actually in the manual).

I removed all the screenshots from the previous editions to force
everyone to take new screenshots for this edition.

--Kevin

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Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Author status report

2012-05-10 Thread Patrick Dickey
That sounds fine. I have one issue though. One of the screenshots was of
the directory-structure, and I'm not sure how they created it. So it may
need to be placed back in.  Here is the error (so you can see the
screenshot) The file screenshots/en/root-directories.png does not exist!

Any advice on how to fix this is appreciated.

Thanks, and have a great day:)
Patrick.

On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 19:55 -0500, Kevin Godby wrote: 
> Hey, Patrick.
> 
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Patrick Dickey  wrote:
> *snip*
> > Also (at least on
> > my "making" of the manual), I'm missing some screenshots (although I
> > think they're actually in the manual).
> 
> I removed all the screenshots from the previous editions to force
> everyone to take new screenshots for this edition.
> 
> --Kevin


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Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Author status report

2012-05-10 Thread Kevin Godby
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:19 PM, Patrick Dickey  wrote:
> That sounds fine. I have one issue though. One of the screenshots was of
> the directory-structure, and I'm not sure how they created it. So it may
> need to be placed back in.  Here is the error (so you can see the
> screenshot) The file screenshots/en/root-directories.png does not exist!

Ah, good catch. I've added that figure back to the precise bzr repository.

--Kevin

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