Ubuntu Vim Maintainers Team
Hello The odds are none of you care, but in case you do, I just wanted to announce I am forming a Ubuntu Vim team [1] whose goal is to keep an up-to-date version of Vim for all Ubuntu releases to enjoy. I plan on accomplish this by always keeping sync with Debian Unstable. If for whatever reason someone wanted upload privileges or more information about the team just let me know. Thanks. Joseph Smidt PS You are receiving this email because being the official Debian/Ubuntu maintainer you deserve to know. [1] https://launchpad.net/~vim-ubuntu/+archive -- Joseph Smidt Physics and Astronomy 4129 Frederick Reines Hall Irvine, CA 92697-4575 Office: 949-824-3269 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
[strawman] Make Git Branches of all Ubuntu Packages Too
First I want to say I have used Ubuntu for years now and love just
about everything you guys are doing with it. I hesitate sending this
email because I'm confident if it was a good idea you would already be
doing it. Nevertheless, here it goes:
As you all know there has been tremendous discussion over Git vs.
Bazaar recently. Furthermore, Launchpad will soon have Bazaar branches
for all Ubuntu packages. Would you considering having Git packages for
all packages as well?
I like both Git and Bazaar, but is seems the the momentum is in Git's
corner. I'm sure the point of the Bazaar branches is to promote the
development of open source software. If by and large the majority of
open source developers are moving toward Git, having Git branches would
increase productivity.
I know in the past Mark has said he would change the development
release schedule for Ubuntu if the rest of the Linux community
standardized to set release schedules. Why not also bite the bullet and
standardize how open source projects track how we are modifying
software?
That's the argument in a nutshell: Git seems to more and more becoming
the standard for open source revision control. Why not allow Launchpad
conform to that standard? Bazaar could still be used by people who
prefer it.
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Re: [strawman] Make Git Branches of all Ubuntu Packages Too
I will up the ante: if somebody would be willing to mentor me, I would do the work. Admittedly, I am a physics grad student, not a CS major so I am only proficient in the basic C/C++ coding that goes into numerical work. (I am learning Python) So it would need to be a good and patient mentor. But I believe enough in the idea that I am willing to learn and will do the work. And, if it worked out, you would have a lifelong maintainer in addition to whatever else such a task would lead to. Joseph Smidt -- Joseph Smidt Physics and Astronomy 4129 Frederick Reines Hall Irvine, CA 92697-4575 Office: 949-824-3269 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [strawman] Make Git Branches of all Ubuntu Packages Too
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 11:38 +1100, Christopher Halse Rogers wrote:
> You might be better served by helping John Carr with his git-serve[1]
> addition to bzr-git. That will basically serve bzr branches over the
> git protocol, so you don't have the same problems with maintaining two
> separate repositories.
Sounds interesting. Does this project have the Ubuntu's blessing? Is
there any indication it will be supported in Launchpad for all Ubuntu's
packages? If so, great, maybe the problem is solved. :) If not, why?
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[strawman] Make Launchpad Extract Patches
Hi,
I would post this to a launchpad devel list, but I didn't see one.
I think many people, especially upstream, would be benefited if
Launchpad would provide download links to patches in addition to the
orig tarball, .dsc and .diff. It is much harder digging through those
files to search for patches then to just have a download link to the
patches themselves.
People could still use their own patch system when they make .deb
packages, but if Launchpad had a way of extracting the patches used it
could be really helpful.
Use case examples:
1. Bob likes a patch available in Ubuntu, but not all of them, he easily
downloads the one he wants without having to do any more work.
2. Alice, from upstream, can easily monitor all the patches in Ubuntu
for here package at any time she wants. Sure, she can dig through her
emails trying to find all the patches that good Ubuntu devs *always*
make sure to send her, but now she can just log into launchpad and boom,
there all there ready to be perused.
Extra Kudos if you could have a download section that records patches
found in other distros and upstream, for the obvious reason.
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Re: [strawman] Make Launchpad Extract Patches
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Scott James Remnant wrote: > In the meantime, you can obtain these from: > > http://patches.ubuntu.com/ > > In particular: > > http://patches.ubuntu.com/by-release/extracted/ubuntu/ > Scott, Thank you, I know in the meantime people can do that. I'm worried that this may stay the case forever unless someone pleads. My goal was to incorporate this stuff into Launchpad to simplify everything for everyone. Notice, people would have to: 1. Know about all these websites. 2. Send time going to multiple sites. I saw a video, I believe on Mark's blog about how Launchad was meant to simplify tasks. Tasks that usually send people to multiple links and sites would now be simplified in Launchpad. Please, don't let "in the meantime" turn into something that stays forever. Thanks. Joseph Smidt -- ---- Joseph Smidt Physics and Astronomy 4129 Frederick Reines Hall Irvine, CA 92697-4575 Office: 949-824-3269 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
What is the best way to package going forward (deb or snap?)
I have been using Kali Linux for the past couple years and would like to transition to Ubuntu and have noticed many of the security packages I use are not in any of the repos. I would like to put in some elbow grease to make this happen but I want some advice on the best way forward: 1. Make a deb in Debian: I realize the traditional way to get a package into Ubuntu is to make a .deb package, get it into Debian, and then let it naturally migrate over. And I am not against this but it would require me to track the package across a few different distributions, one of which I don't use. And to make matters worse, half the security packages in Kali not in Debian are free software that just doesn't meet Debian's strict guidelines and thus can't ever go this route. 2. Make deb in PPA: I realize one can always make a PPA, but I feel that this approach doesn't really help the community at large. Take the Kali packages example. Many are in about 5 different PPAs of varying quality and gives the end user no idea which is best to use. 3. Make a snap: What I like about snap is that A.) I think it could be the future way to package for many packages and B.) it could work across many linux distributions allowing me to focus my efforts on the package I care about, not several upstream and downstream distributions I may not care about and C.) in principle I believe many more people benefit than just Ubuntu. The major downside is I would have to have the rights to package the software which I don't have as of today but would be happy to attempt to get written upstream permission if it means the packages I care about can be a part of official Ubuntu channels. Anyway, sorry for the long email, but let me know what is the best way to get some of these free security packages into official Ubuntu repos. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
