Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk
2008/11/3 James Westby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Perhaps we need some sort of tool installed by default that removes > packages that are no longer needed, and may be considered cruft :-) > I'd agree the word "cruft" is unsuitable given the fact that it's a geek phrase. By way of an unscientific test I just asked two co-workers if they could define "cruft". One (who is quite a language enthusiast) said he'd never heard it. The other said "something to do with dogs". As well as the ambiguity of the word itself, it doesn't correctly describe what the app actually does either. From what I can tell it looks for .debs that have been installed via some method other than apt - that is to say other than via a currently active repository. I have installed a few applications from debs which I (as the user/owner of the system) would certainly not class as cruft, and wouldn't want this application to make that decision for me. Whilst I appreciate that it's possible for me to 'uncheck' packages, I don't like the idea that an Ubuntu supplied application is telling me that my selection of applications is classed as cruft. Of course this may be a bug in the app, or my misinterpretation of its use. I'd go for a name like "Orphaned Package Cleanup" which is somewhat less pejorative than "Cruft". Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk
2008/11/3 Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> To add my own $ o.o2, I'd very much like to see a tool or Synaptic
> feature which tells me about the differences between a standard
> install and the current set of installed packages. One can purge
> package by package until {Synaptic, apt-get,...} wants to remove the
> ubuntu-desktop meta-package, but this is tedious, very tedious.
> Perhaps this exists already, but I didn't notice yet.
>
Indeed, I'd like a "revert to standard packages" option which removes
absolutely anything that was added post-install. I'd suspect this
would be faster than a reinstall to get a machine back to some level
of normality. It could even be included as part of the recovery mode.
Cheers,
Al.
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Re: Cruft Remover (system-cleaner): testing help?
2008/11/9 Dean Loros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Where is the "white-list" located? I have several extra programs > installed & would like to verify that this part works...you can respond > here, PM me thru ubuntuforums or contact me at autocrosser1 at gmail.com > See the bug report listed in the first mail. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-cleaner/+bug/285746/comments/24 Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Setting up Ubuntu 8.04.1 development system with no Internet
2008/11/21 Terry Sikes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I did run across the idea of apt repositories on DVD, is anyone aware of > such .iso files for developer tools (8.04 compatible)? It'd be great to just > use Synaptic with a DVD. > Repo on a usb disk/stick? That way you can take it to another machine to update it easily (using apt-mirror or debmirror) and take it back to the non-connected machine when it needs software / updates. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: What are the release dates of Ubuntu 8.10.x
Hi Francesco, 2008/11/30 Francesco Fumanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Could anybody please tell me when the updates of Ubuntu 8.10 will be > released? > What makes you think 8.10 _will_ have a respin/update to the ISO? As far as I can see only LTS (Long Term Support) releases (6.06 and 8.04 so far) have had updates to the ISO. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: too complicated
2009/1/7 Richard Tattersall : > CLI is also useful for support/guides, because rather than lots of "click > here, then here, then here" all you need is to copy and paste commands in a > terminal. > I suspect this is where many of our new users are introduced to the command line. We have had a fair number of new people turn up for support on IRC recently (yay, by the way), and many have come in because they're part way through a guide online which dives directly into the command line. > Im curious as to what you were trying to do in a terminal and what you found > hard about it? I bet there was probably a simpler/GUI way of doing it. There may well have been, but the majority of wiki pages (and forum posts) in my experience detail solutions by means of a block of commands rather than screenshots or descriptions of menu paths. "sudo apt-get install cowsay" is easier and faster to type than "System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager -> Enter 'cowsay' in the search field -> Click on it then choose 'Install' -> Click 'Apply'." Although these days:- "Click this:- apt://cowsay" Is _even_ easier. > Perhaps this suggests a problem with how ubuntu is documented for new users? > It is. Maybe we should go through the wiki doing a global replace of "apt-get install" with "click apt://" :) (note for the humour impaired, this is not a serious suggestion, but you get the idea). Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: too complicated
2009/1/7 Remco : > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Alan Pope wrote: >> It is. Maybe we should go through the wiki doing a global replace of >> "apt-get install" with "click apt://" :) (note for the humour >> impaired, this is not a serious suggestion, but you get the idea). > > I may be humour impaired, but that sounds like a good idea! Why make > it hard if there is an easier way? Oh it is, i just meant "don't go doing a global replace on the wiki with that because formatting and special conditions would break pages". But yes, in a carefully considered editing exercise, one could edit many pages on the wiki and make them more usable/friendly. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Alt-SysReq-K in some cases nonfunctional.
2009/2/15 Mike Jones : > Could someone please explain to me what REISUB is? I have never heard > this term before, and as I said before, I am a programmer by trade, with > better than just basic knowledge about operating systems and such, so I am a > bit thrown off. > It's the sequence of letters you type whilst holding down Alt+SysRq to gracefully reboot the system (after doing nice things like syncing the disks). Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: CAB loss, fake logins etc
2009/2/15 Alex Cockell : > Umm -please forgive me, but you mention that removing the > Ctrl-Alt-Backspace three-key-salute was proposed for removal two years > ago... Has this been made absolutely clear to preinstall manufacturers > in time for them to print new manuals? > This discussion is about disabling CAB in a _future_ release of Ubuntu such as the upcoming Jaunty (to be 9.04). As far as I am aware all system integrators currently install existing supported released versions of Ubuntu, not the unreleased development version. When they switch to the new version (after release) then surely they need to put in some effort to update their documentation in various areas, possibly including this one. > My laptop has been set up by my vendor to accept mainstream updates, but > only offer Major Stable OS upgrades (I believe this is the intention of > LTS releases?) I believe the next one is 9.10, correct? > You didn't mention which version of Ubuntu you are currently on. If it's 8.04 (which is an LTS release) then by default you are right, you wont get prompted for a release upgrade until the next LTS release which as I understand it will be 10.04 at the earliest. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: aufs based upgrade tests
2009/3/18 Alexander Sack : > Is there any reason why we don't overlay /home? Just so that you can > test upgrade for existing configs? > That would fail for users who make one-time changes to their data. For example users who download their mail via pop. If they upgrade using aufs and then proceed to test the new features of their mail client, it might be configured to download new mail via pop and delete it from the server. In this case if they choose to not upgrade but throw the overlay away they lose their new mail and the ability to get it back. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: jaunty DVD
2009/4/1 richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk : > Is this a known bug or do I file a new bug report ? > Tip: Read the release notes at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta specifically http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta#Known%20issues "Some users of Intel i8x5 video chipsets are unable to load X, getting an error message of "Fatal server error: Couldn't bind memory for BO front buffer". As a workaround, use the VESA driver by logging into a text console, running "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf", and adding the line Driver "vesa" to the Device section. An alternative (experimental) workaround is to use the UXA acceleration method (see below). If in doubt, please do not upgrade to Ubuntu 9.04 Beta yet." https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304871 Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: dynamic executables ?
2009/4/22 Vincenzo Ciancia : > Il giorno mer, 22/04/2009 alle 15.19 +0100, richard ha scritto: >> >> richar...@richard-g8jvm:~/eagle-5.5.0/bin$ ldd ./eagle >> not a dynamic executable >> > > The output from "file eagle"? > Assuming it's eagle the circuit board design software, then "eagle" is not an executable but a shell script. a...@hactar:/usr/bin$ file eagle eagle: POSIX shell script text executable Which then calls /usr/lib/eagle/bin/eagle a...@hactar:~$ file /usr/lib/eagle/bin/eagle /usr/lib/eagle/bin/eagle: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, stripped - that's on a 32-bit Ubuntu Jaunty system with Eagle installed from the default repo. I assume from the version number that Richard has an upstream version he's unpacked in his home folder. Doesn't look like it's installed correctly to me. The "No such file or directory" is probably eagle shell script not able to find /usr/lib/eagle/bin/eagle. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Gaming Team
2009/4/26 Jan Claeys : > Op vrijdag 24-04-2009 om 09:08 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Danny > Piccirillo: >> Alright, i'll bottom-post for you =] > > Now also try to snip away irrelevant text from what you quote. ;-) > > That makes it much faster to read mail! > It's also faster (and cheaper) for those of us on 3g connections to download too. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Replace Tomboy with Gnote?
2009/6/17 Danny Piccirillo : > Let's all refrain from a mono flamewar. 2009/6/19 Danny Piccirillo : > And sadly, Banshee (mono) may soon be replacing Rhythmbox in Ubuntu > Lets not go down that road huh? Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
F-Spot Import Was: Replace Tomboy with Gnote?
2009/6/20 Vincenzo Ciancia : > I have nothing against mono myself but in my opinion rhythmbox and gthumb > cover the basic needs one may have. I sometimes wanted to use f-spot but the > fact that it copies all the pics in its own folder gives an "alien" and > feeling to it, in the sense that it seems to me the program is doing > something I didn't ask for (pictures take lot of space). > In F-spot the import dialog has a check box "Copy files to the Photos folder" which you can turn off to prevent that behaviour. http://popey.com/~alan/Screenshot-Import.png Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD
Hi Sense, 2009/6/22 Sense Hofstede : > 2) I mentioned removing Mono from the LiveCD because when F-Spot is > gone, just one Mono application remains on the LiveCD: Tomboy. Tomboy > is something that's definitely worth including on the LiveCD. However, > this single program does require a whole language interpreter to be > included on the LiveCD. This is more something for the ongoing > discussion about replacing Tomboy with Gnote elsewhere on this list. > There is a spec to replace Rhythmbox with Banshee in this cycle. This would mean Tomboy is not the only mono-based application left on the CD. > In one sentence: I think F-Spot should be removed from the LiveCD > because it's useless on the CD and takes up space that could be used > much better. > It's not useless at all. I have used a live CD with F-Spot before now to demo that application to a user. This is one of the primary use cases of the Live CD - demonstration of the capability of Ubuntu. In this particular session I had a digital camera containing some photos, which I used F-Spot on the Live CD to download. I then made a minor change to one of the pictures (red eye removal) and uploaded the picture to an online gallery. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?
2009/7/27 Sebastien Bacher : > Wouldn't it make sense to rather try contacting the maintainer or the > ubuntu mozilla team about the issue or to open a bug on launchpad so you > can get a reply from the people doing the changes? > ..or read his blog post about it :) http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/162-What-is-this-Multisearch-thing-in-my-Firefox-about.html (which I can see Vincenzo already has, and has indeed commented on it [assuming that's Vincenzo]). Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Why Ubuntu is not ready for prime time
2009/8/26 Mat Tomaszewski : > - Ubuntu documentation (help.ubuntu.com) – very information-rich > resource but very beginner-unfriendly (lots of technical jargon) > - Forums – lots of information noise, very difficult to locate the right > thread (or even find out where to start) to someone not already > accustomed with how forums work > - Mailing lists – the UI the user is presented with when subscribing can > be intimidating and does not provide a helpful "how to" information > - IRC – most users never heard of it and never used it. Very niche and > mysterious way of communication from average user's standpoint > I note that launchpad answers is missing off the support options on that download page. Seems answers has always played second fiddle to _all_ other support options, which seem strange to me. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Why Ubuntu is not ready for prime time
2009/8/27 Dotan Cohen : > 2009/8/27 Jonathan Taylor : >> I have tried Ubuntu several time over the past 5 years. I usually get so >> frustrated that I go back to Windows XP. This week, I installed Ubuntu 9.04 >> on my Laptop. I spent yesterday trying to install Flash and Real Player 11. >> I failed at both. There is a lot of web content that I just can't use, and >> I really don't see why Ubuntu has remained so complicated. Why am I >> grappling with .bin and .tar.gz? > > The problem seems to be that you even tried to grapple with .bin and > .tar! I have installed Flash from the .debs, and had no problems. Same > with 20+ users that I support (Kubuntu, though, that's Ubuntu with the > KDE desktop). > I guess it might be prudent at this point to point Jonathan at some documentation which may help him https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash Jonathan: I would recommend installing the package "ubuntu-restricted-extras" which you can do in Applications -> Add/Remove Programs. Just change the 'show' box at the top to 'All available applications' and type 'restricted' in the search box. 'Ubuntu restricted extras' should be one of the first listed. This package installs flash, media codecs, fonts and other useful (and sadly non-Free) apps and libraries which many users these days find essential. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Testing karmic currently impossible?
2009/9/15 Markus Hitter : > It's a pretty generic Dell with a Core 2 Duo, intended to run desktop- > amd64. Any idea on how to get back on track? > Go to bed and test some more tomorrow. There's been some fairly major changes in the boot process, including stuff like dbus and gdm which are a bit fundamental. I spoke to Scott earlier who indicated he was still waiting on a package or two to be built. Once this pain is out of the way I'm sure it will settle down. The new boot stuff is also really quite an improvement :) Personally I like the fade down of the Ubuntu logo before power off, but that's just a minor thing.. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Karmic might scare users about hard disk dying
2009/10/7 Przemysław Kulczycki : > Hi devs. > I'd like to point your attention to a bug which might be frequently > noticed after Karmic is released: > https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-disk-utility/+bug/438136 Sorry, I thought it might be a dupe of 412152, but that might not be the case after all. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Icons in Place and System
2009/10/13 George Farris : > No that turns on icons for everything. I'm saying that Applications and > Places have icons but System doesn't and that looks unfinished and not > consistent. A paper cut if you will. > Indeed, I have thought for a while that there was going to be some new icons arriving to fill all these gaps in the menu, but clearly not. I missing a few under Places - Bookmarks, Connect to server, search for files, recent documents, and as you mentioned, no icons under the system menu. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Solang or Shotwell vs. F-Spot for Lucid
2009/12/9 Caleb Marcus : > The bizarrely obnoxious bit about F-Spot import is that it copies everything > to your photos folder BEFORE you actually accept the import. Then, if you > don't accept it, it deletes them... which is just Bad Behavior. > https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/f-spot/+bug/412091 Known bug. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Help Center
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:16:07PM -0800, Shentino wrote: >Just curious, would adding a "support ticket" system of some sort help? >Not sure about the nitty gritties of how they work under the hood but it's >a common support feature I've observed in other systems both amateur and >professional. > We have one of them:- http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: The 9.10 boot loader progress bar
2010/1/25 Amahdy : > Here is the middle of thing, have the splash splitted out into two parts, > the upper is the graphical splash and the lower part is the traditional > text-boot with [green(OK)] or [red(fail)] > Even maybe with a scrollbar to scroll through the log if needed... > We moved away from [OK] type scrolling past a few releases ago. I'd suspect (no proof, no percentages) that most people flat out don't care what is [OK] and what isn't. They just want to get to the desktop as quick as possible. In the event something goes wrong I'd guess most users wouldn't have a clue what to do if one of the lines did say [FAIL] anyway. > BTW: I believe 99% of users doesn't really care about the splached boot, > they *have* to see text at some point after pressing the power button > (related to BIOS, detecting IDE, RAM ... etc then GRUP loading ...) so if > this text continue to tell (Loading kernel, X-Server, .. etc) it doesn't > matter a lot as far as they reach at the end a graphical login-screen which > starting from here become for most users a critical matter. > Neither of my laptops display _any_ text when they boot. Both show a graphical manufacturer logo and then Grub/Linux starts booting. Both from big name brand manufacturers, popular machines. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Including usb-modeswitch in default installation?
Hi Timo, On 7 February 2010 14:16, Timo Jyrinki wrote: > a) Is anyone aware of some earlier discussions on the topic wrt Ubuntu > and b) Would everyone agree that it would make a lot of sense? > Perhaps if some of the more irritating bugs in usb_modeswitch and network_manager around 3g connections were fixed, yes. Some specifics:- https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/430011 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/446146 Right now the workarounds for getting 3g working on those insanely common devices include killing devkit and manually editing resolv.conf. Neither are what we'd expect new users to do. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Accounting Program
On 7 March 2010 19:47, Martin Owens wrote: > Of course. It would be silly not to reuse what we already have available > and of course just as silly to not position it with other things in > mind. > Have you looked at OpenERP? It exists already, is written in python, is in the repo, has great support behind it (companies that write it, do so on Ubuntu), it's cross-platform, extensible, has a huge amount of functionality already done and a plugin system for adding more. I recently evaluated a number of Financial Management solutions for a small company and after looking at numerous alternatives, OpenERP came out on top in pretty much every way we measured it. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: ubuntu-bug reports too much;
On 19 March 2010 12:55, Rene Veerman wrote: > by the looks of it i can't even delete 'm from launchpad.. :S > You can. On the right hand side see "Bug attachments". Click 'edit' next to the one you want to delete then click "Delete attachment" button. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Booting and login - why are users not logged in automatically?
On 24 March 2010 14:10, Phillip Susi wrote: > On 3/24/2010 9:54 AM, Evan wrote: >> Why? I'm sure there are reasons, but my initial reaction is that any >> computer which can easily be stolen (ie laptop/netbook) should >> NEVER have auto-login enabled. > > Why? Given physical access to the machine, bypassing login is easy. > That still wont guarantee access to user files. If you use ecryptfs (the default encryption system for /home on Ubuntu live CDs) then even having physical access won't give you immediate access to files in the user home directory. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Is Ubuntu commited to free software?
Hi Danny, On 9 June 2010 17:57, Danny Piccirillo wrote: > Of course it is! At least according to our > philosophy: http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy > > Still, many people don't think that Ubuntu is truly committed to free > software in practice. Where "many people" == "the FSF". > These people can and should be our allies. I don't particularly want allies that do this:- http://www.defectivebydesign.org/amazon-kindle-swindle and this:- http://www.defectivebydesign.org/apple-challenge > Their > concerns are valid, and they are not difficult to appease. I'd like to > present a short list of simple ways that Ubuntu could show it's commitment: How about answering the questions/concerns posed to you in the other threads you've raised today and engage in the discussion rather than fire-and-forget. You're in danger of falling into the same behaviour as other FSF members before you. It goes something like this:- 1. Send a mail mandating how things should be done 2. Lots of people reply, some people ask questions asking you to clarify position 3. Ignore those questions 4. Choose another mailing list and GOTO 1 I'm all for having a discussion about these things, but I don't appreciate being talked _at_ by someone who isn't willing to at least engage. > 1. Offer ways to easily purge all non-free software from one's system. We have that, and has been for a few releases now. Boot an Ubuntu Live CD and press F6 at the boot screen/menu, choose "Free Software Only". Announced over two years ago here:- https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/gobuntu-devel/2008-April/000651.html > 2. Make a point of saying why and how non-free software was bad, but also > why the option is given to install it > * This would need to be shown every time Ubuntu recommends proprietary > software like restricted drivers We do. Jockey pops up a dialog box when you install non-free drivers, as does totem when you install non-free codecs. Perhaps the wording could be adjusted/improved to clarify the position, but I think we're pretty much there. > That's it! > That's never "it" in my experience. There are always those who will go further in terms of freedom than you. Other ideas I've seen suggested which go beyond "That's it!" include such choice suggestions as:- * Removal of Firefox due to license concerns around the logo usage * Block installation of non free extensions in Firefox * Block installation of non-free software full stop * Only install on systems that have a free software BIOS ..and so on. Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04
On 8 April 2011 18:38, Patrick Goetz wrote: > I'm assuming most developers and power users use point to focus, as > we do. Having the menu in the taskbar creates a unique problem for point to > focus users; https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/674138 Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [Oneiric-Foundations-Topic] networked client app updates
On 21 April 2011 16:14, Allison Randal wrote: > - Only ship a very small shim for the client on the CD (advantage of > small footprint), and do the rest of the install the first time someone > uses Ubuntu One. > This is what dropbox does albeit a download and not on CD, and it seems to work nicely. You end up with a boatload of statically linked libraries in ~/.dropbox-dist as a result though. I don't know if you'd look to let the shim install a deb or do a similar think to dropbox, but whatever you do, make it "Just Work". That's one significant advantage dropbox has over Ubuntu One. (That's aside from dropbox being properly cross platform (same functionality and UI on all three platforms) and "Just Work"ing behind a proxy. Neither of which U1 does yet which are the two reasons I (and many others[0]) don't use it) Al. [0] - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/387308 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P
On 23 September 2011 21:56, Allison Randal wrote: > While we're all in the final preparations for Oneiric, it's round about > that time in the cycle to start thinking about plans for the next cycle. > What's on your mind? > Full proxy support for all core applications. Given P is an LTS it would be great if proxy support actually worked for all apps on the CD, so those of us who work behind proxy servers don't have to jump through daft hoops to make apps work. Notably broken is of course Ubuntu One. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/387308 2.5 years later, over 30 dupe bugs, over 250 "Me-toos" that bug is still "Confirmed-wishlist". Cheers, Al. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Drop Gwibber from default install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14/03/12 14:44, Rodney Dawes wrote: > Ditën e Wed, 14/03/2012 më 14.21 +0200, Timo Jyrinki ka shkruar: >> Sure it's the good ol' laggy Gwibber, > > Can you please clarify what you mean by "laggy" here? And are > there bugs open for what you mean by your use of the term? > The jerky scrolling #828593 (7 dupes) is what makes Gwibber completely unusable for me. I made this video showing it before discovering the existing bug:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0wbNtMHM8Q There's also the problem of it just randomly hanging #955839, scrolling slowly and taking ages to load avatars:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aES6c1vub9Y Both of these just recorded on a core i7 / 8GB with not a lot going on. Cheers, - -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPYbtiAAoJEMx6UFtfvV4wXA0H/iFP04j4TzAz2UOliHL8s4C9 IlHlgQDPHnmZPkD31OmHjqsXceT/OdZSjgYERuVuw82Lap0pTinAUoqYGv2SvNlS JChG5r5LgCyWvYblP0wsrM/V+K4c0RRiVa+NuG5DSzPUFchJMyTEseEFrro5Ytv2 kBDaL0b15uIZ33nSoxLFmRSJuQMpb1xpvg4biTMBmZvLr/3LAW4iUEYtGDxFKzzb wNYkPOFF/QQpIF3JjpjrooQ5ogCFD65pHWVnMPn2cNvNALGeWQYvJC1HOoqD5477 6SWInVjQk2nTRVWYJwmQRgLZx/L1f2oqlvpY5Qy3LLl4EokZ5W1DMHYsJyejJ8g= =+6L6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space
On 14 January 2015 at 16:49, Chris Knutson wrote: > This is not a support request. I have no problem cleaning up my system. > > My mother should never have to do this if she wants to run Ubuntu. > +1 The default installation on a Dell XPS 13 (a flagship device we promote) has a separate /boot partition which runs out of space once you have used it normally for some months. I have a few friends who own them and I've personally "fixed" it for them more than once. The error messages aren't clear, and don't advise what to do in this situation, it requires a technical 'expert' to resolve. It's also the case if you choose the default partitioning scheme with encrypted disk. So it's not a niche corner case (in so much as installing Ubuntu or buying an Ubuntu machine is niche already) but a common enough problem that we should fix properly and not work around with arcane command line tools. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Community Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Touch File System
On 18 May 2015 at 18:06, wrote: > In the home directory, there is user information such as photos, music etc > in the directories "Documents", "Downloads", "Music, "Pictures", "Videos". > However, I can't find, for example, actual SMS messages stored there, or > the phonecalls' list and other data. > Google is your friend. :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/610640/where-are-sms-and-mms-stored Cheers, -- Alan Pope Community Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Building against libsmbclient-dev:armhf
Hi, I'm having some trouble building an app against samba in a 15.04 armhf chroot on an amd64 Wily laptop. The build is not able to find libsmbclient headers even after installing the necessary parts. I may be doing something stupid here, but would appreciate a sanity check :) Steps to reproduce:- # Create the chroot sudo click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 create # Get deps click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 maint apt-get install libsmbclient-dev:armhf # Result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11669082/ # Fix strangeness with python dependancy apt-get install -f # Result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11669078/ # Get source to build bzr branch lp:ubuntu-filemanager-app # Build it Using this script http://paste.ubuntu.com/11667958/ to build armhf/amd64/i386 fat package. Fails at first hurdle, the armhf build:- http://paste.ubuntu.com/11669092/ I have also tried installing various other samba packages including libsmbclient but I get the same issue every time. Suggestions welcome. -- Alan Pope Community Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Wubi
Hey, Is wubi still a supported way of installing? If so, who maintains it? Seems we have some bugs [1] including one fairly serious one [2] which causes the wrong version of Ubuntu to get installed. I was told wubi (installer) was to be replaced by a simpler wubi which is just a menu. This doesn't seem to have happened. If we don't plan on fixing these (new user) facing issues, is it time to retire wubi from the images? Cheers, Al. [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/1471344 -- Alan Pope Community Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Wubi
On 21 August 2015 at 13:45, Michael Hall wrote: > Modern Windows releases broke Wubi, so we stopped shipping and > supporting it a while back. As far as I know it's a dead-end now. > We didn't stop shipping it. I just downloaded the 15.04 desktop iso. alan@deep-thought:~/Downloads⟫ sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso ./iso [sudo] password for alan: mount: /dev/loop0 is write-protected, mounting read-only alan@deep-thought:~/Downloads⟫ ls -l iso/wubi.exe -r--r--r-- 1 root root 2573712 Oct 17 2014 iso/wubi.exe Cheers, -- Alan Pope Community Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Wubi
Hi, On 21 August 2015 at 14:01, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > On 21 August 2015 at 13:53, Alan Pope wrote: >> On 21 August 2015 at 13:45, Michael Hall wrote: >>> Modern Windows releases broke Wubi, so we stopped shipping and >>> supporting it a while back. As far as I know it's a dead-end now. >>> >> >> We didn't stop shipping it. I just downloaded the 15.04 desktop iso. >> > > but it's only used in greeter mode on windows which shows a GUI window > and offers one to reboot. > That doesn't work. I grabbed the latest supported release (amd64 desktop 15.04 iso) and put it on a USB stick, shoved that in a Windows 10 machine. The efi partition gets mounted by Windows, but it sees the rest of the stick (containing wubi.exe crucially) as un-partitioned space. So from my one-off test on a fairly standard Windows 10 install, wubi can't work. > launching wubi.exe off the cd doesn't start "wubi installer". > I assume you mean "usb stick" (or perhaps DVD) where you say "cd" as the 15.04 image doesn't fit on a CD. I didn't test the DVD use case, but certainly can once I dig a blank DVD out. > if one moves the wubi.exe off the disk however, it still shows the > "installer" mode if one wants to brick their windows > I don't believe we should be in the business of shipping known brick-making software. We should fix these issues or drop them. We have no resources to maintain this (as I understand it). I therefore recommend we remove wubi from the CD image completely. If someone in the community wants to take over the project, and serve up the (fixed) wubi.exe from somewhere for those users who need it, I think that's a better way forward than us having a broken version on our ISO. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Community Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Wubi
On 25 August 2015 at 07:33, bcbc bcbc wrote: > On that subject (on being in charge of Wubi), you do realise that there are > in fact patches supplied to fix Wubi? This was what triggered my initial mail to this list in the first place. The combination of broken software, no releases, and near zero maintenance led me to believe it was dead. As per my previous reply to Dimitri, I don't think anyone will be tasked with looking after this in Canonical in the short term. If someone wants to step up and take over maintenance, testing and release, we'd love to hear from them. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Community Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Immutable Page
On 21 April 2016 at 20:53, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Indeed, it changed, > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide#Contributing , but there's > no explanation why. > > I guess I will not continue to contribute to those pages. Is there valid > a reason to make it extra hard to help? > Blame spammers completely covering the wiki with dodgy links. We had to do something and this was the least worst option, sorry. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Community Manager Canonical - Ubuntu Engineering and Services +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: mmutable Page
Hi Ralf, On 21 April 2016 at 21:19, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 21 Apr 2016 20:57:35 +0100, floccul...@gmx.co.uk wrote: >>Not sure that joining a LP group is really that much of a hardship >>tbh. > (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2016-April/007640.html) > > Did you notice that e.g. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases was last edited 2016-02-05? > > While Wikipdia about Ubuntu was edited today? > Likely people aren't aware what's going on ;), so yes, it's hard, if > you don't know what to do. > Now you know. I fixed the Ubuntu wiki page for you. > In addition I mistrust that the reason > for this approach is spam. > Thankfully you don't need to trust it for it to be true. We made a rapid and logical decision to mitigate the relentless spam we were getting. This isn't a perfect solution. It's now harder for people to do drive by edits, and we (admins) are getting numerous spurious requests to join the team every day and have that extra workload to deal with. We're also investigating other options of course. Thanks for alerting us to the omission. That page is now fixed. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Community Manager Canonical - Ubuntu Engineering and Services +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: mmutable Page
Hi, On 22 April 2016 at 00:13, Xen wrote: >> Thanks for alerting us to the omission. That page is now fixed. > > Does that mean all wiki edits should now be sent to some mailing list? > Preferably not as that's terribly inefficient as it takes just as long as editing the page and causes more work for numerous people. Just join the team on launchpad, logout and back into the wiki and then edits can be made. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Community Manager Canonical - Ubuntu Engineering and Services +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: My opinion on Ubuntu cancelling Intel 80386/80386-clone processor support
Hi, On 7 September 2016 at 12:17, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > The mechanical harddisk should be a PATA (that is, IDE and not SATA), > meaning that it is not replaceable with a new disk; PATA disks are not > manufactured any more. A minor point, but there's a company called Kingspec who sell new PATA SSDs, still. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingspec-128GB-Solid-Notebook-Laptop/dp/B00HWOYY72 Good for bringing a speed boost, and life to older computers. I know a few people who use them, and swear by them. Cheers, -- Alan Pope Community Manager Canonical - Ubuntu Engineering and Services +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Ubuntu Daily MD5 Check
Hi, On Wed, 18 Mar 2020 at 16:59, Newmont wrote: > I have been testing live daily, everyday, on a USB drive for years. About > a month or so ago, I noticed a fsck MD5 checksum being done on every boot > up, checking each package on the USB drive and making the bootup extremely > slow (I know I can bypass with 's'). This check is done on every daily ever > since I noticed it in the first, including today's, daily's bootup and it > persists on different USB drives. > > Is there any plan to remove this feature from future's daily? > It's working as designed. The goal is to ensure the installation media is free of errors prior to an install. As you noticed, you can use 's' to skip the test. We've had significant reports in the past of corrupt files leading to a failed install. This helps reduce the instances of that occuring. More discussion over on the Ubuntu discourse. https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/defaulting-to-verify-the-image-integrity-before-installing-on-desktop/13472 Cheers, -- Alan Pope Developer Advocate Canonical - Data Center Development +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Disable File Checking Boot Parameter
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 12:27, wrote: > I need to boot a Ubuntu LiveUSB multiple times a day. Each time, I have > to remove the "maybe-ubiquity" from the kernel parameters and the side > effect is that I would not be able to skip the .deb files check which > lasted quite long for each boot (Pressing Ctrl-C does nothing). > Do you have a bug tracking the fact that CTRL+C doesn't work? -- Alan Pope Developer Advocate Canonical - Data Center Development +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: trackerd in Gutsy
Hi Martin, On Sun, 2007-09-09 at 13:44 -0700, Martin Olsson wrote: > I noticed that trackerd is running by default in Gutsy Tribe 5. Is this > information sent to Canonical? trackerd is a daemon that indexes your files so that the tracker applet can find content for you on your computer quickly. > What else is trackerd logs used for? See their site for the aims of the project. http://www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/ Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
