Re: Why is Linux desktop not popular among non-programmers?
PS: Let's take an RFID USB card reader, i.e. for ID cards, health insurance cards, bus tickets, etc., where a generic USB driver is of no use. The bus companies, the federal government etc. had bought these things en masse and for a while they were available free of charge on request, including a Linux driver and all the necessary Linux software, which did not work under Linux. I don't know if you can use the old card readers under Linux today, I should try it out. On the quick: https://archlinux.org/packages/?q=rfid https://aur.archlinux.org/packages?O=0&K=rfid I might also take a look at other sources. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Request for check for/confirmation of potential bugs in Debtree
Good afternoon.
I've been experiencing some issues with debtree on Kubuntu 24.04.1.
(debtree v1.1.2, installed via Kubuntu apt)
1. debtree gcc-13-x86-64-linux-gnu:amd64
Aborts with with error message
"gcc-13-x86-64-linux-gnu:amd64" ->
"c-compiler-x86-64-linux-gnu" [arrowhead=inv,color=green];
Can't use string ("") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at
/usr/bin/debtree line 329.
2. debtree g++-13-x86-64-linux-gnu:amd64
Reports error message
"g++-13-x86-64-linux-gnu:amd64" ->
"c++-compiler-x86-64-linux-gnu" [arrowhead=inv,color=green];
Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/bin/debtree line 329.
Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/bin/debtree line 329.
Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/bin/debtree line 329.
"c++-compiler-x86-64-linux-gnu" -> virt1
[dir=back,arrowtail=inv,color=green];
This looks similar to the bug reported in here:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=954795
I would appreciate it, someone else could check and see, if this is a
genuine issue, or might be down to my installation only.
I would also like to know (if this is a bug), where this should be
filed? Ubuntu, or Debian, or both?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Renzo de Paoli
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Re: Why is Linux desktop not popular among non-programmers?
On Mon, Feb 3, 2025, 9:32 AM Amit wrote: > > > > Sorry if this sounds snarky, but you are basically making a case for how > > the entire linux ecosystem should follow the marketing strategy of > someone > > who is relatively new to the platform and has not contributed much or > > learned much about how the entire ecosystem works, right? > > > > > > > > Do you suggest that the tens of thousands (or more) of linux developers > > and all the linux companies drop the current plans that they have been > > using and follow you instead, as if they haven't thought about these > kinds > > of things with orders of magnitude more depth and knowledge? > > > > Dave > > > > I am not saying that the linux world should follow me. I am saying > that the linux world should do the right thing. And I believe that I > am saying the right things. If people don't think that I am saying the > right things, it is ok with me. > > By the way, about my qualifications: > > * I am the author of the following HOWTO: > https://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Implement-Sys-Call-Linux-2.6-i386/. > At one point in time, my HOWTO was a homework assignment in many > universities across the world. > > * I have contributed a few patches in the linux kernel. > > * Recently, I developed a C library that can be used as a C++ STL > list, map, set, stack, queue, deque, multimap, multiset, > unordered_map, unordered_set, unordered_multimap, and > unordered_multiset (basically almost all C++ STL data structures). > People who develop applications in C can use this library to avoid > implementing data structures again and speed up their development. It > can be found here: > https://github.com/amit0523/generic-doubly-linked-list-library > > * I have passed the toughest engineering entrance exam in the world > (India's IIT-JEE exam) and studied Computer Science from IIT-BHU. > > * I did my MS in Computer Networking from NCSU, NC and I had got full > (100%) scholarship. I had scored 2240/2400 in GRE exam and I had got > 800/800 in both analytical sections and quantitative sections. > > * At NCSU, I was the topper in my batch and my grades were perfect 4.0/4.0. > > I had worked in USA for around 6 years in companies like Cisco > Systems, Juniper Networks, etc. But I returned back to India because I > found USA boring and I had got the Green Card also. And my skills are > such that I can get a job any time in USA from India and I will also > get H1-B visa easily because I have done MS from USA and so I fall in > the quota of 20,000 H1-B visas that are reserved for those with a > master's degree or higher from a U.S. institution. > > But again, if someone doesn't do the right thing, that person will > lose. My job is only to suggest the right thing to do. If people don't > think that I am saying the right things, it is ok with me. > > If people don't agree with me, it is fine with me, I am not losing > anything. > > Regards, > Amit > By the way, I wanted to tell what I was trying to do. My plan was to raise funds for linux desktop(s) from companies and also to convince the governments across the world to adopt linux and get some funds from them too. I had even sent an email to Germany's finance minister to adopt linux for all the government organizations in Germany. But if people/companies/governments don't get what they want and also no body is asking them, then why would they give funds? So, now I have dropped my plans. Regards, Amit -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Why is Linux desktop not popular among non-programmers?
By the way, I wanted to tell what I was trying to do. My plan was to raise funds for linux desktop(s) from companies and also to convince the governments across the world to adopt linux and get some funds from them too. I had even sent an email to Germany's finance minister to adopt linux for all the government organizations in Germany. But if people/companies/governments don't get what they want and also no body is asking them, then why would they give funds? So, now I have dropped my plans. Regards, Amit On Mon, Feb 3, 2025, 9:32 AM Amit wrote: > > > > Sorry if this sounds snarky, but you are basically making a case for how > > the entire linux ecosystem should follow the marketing strategy of > someone > > who is relatively new to the platform and has not contributed much or > > learned much about how the entire ecosystem works, right? > > > > > > > > Do you suggest that the tens of thousands (or more) of linux developers > > and all the linux companies drop the current plans that they have been > > using and follow you instead, as if they haven't thought about these > kinds > > of things with orders of magnitude more depth and knowledge? > > > > Dave > > > > I am not saying that the linux world should follow me. I am saying > that the linux world should do the right thing. And I believe that I > am saying the right things. If people don't think that I am saying the > right things, it is ok with me. > > By the way, about my qualifications: > > * I am the author of the following HOWTO: > https://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Implement-Sys-Call-Linux-2.6-i386/. > At one point in time, my HOWTO was a homework assignment in many > universities across the world. > > * I have contributed a few patches in the linux kernel. > > * Recently, I developed a C library that can be used as a C++ STL > list, map, set, stack, queue, deque, multimap, multiset, > unordered_map, unordered_set, unordered_multimap, and > unordered_multiset (basically almost all C++ STL data structures). > People who develop applications in C can use this library to avoid > implementing data structures again and speed up their development. It > can be found here: > https://github.com/amit0523/generic-doubly-linked-list-library > > * I have passed the toughest engineering entrance exam in the world > (India's IIT-JEE exam) and studied Computer Science from IIT-BHU. > > * I did my MS in Computer Networking from NCSU, NC and I had got full > (100%) scholarship. I had scored 2240/2400 in GRE exam and I had got > 800/800 in both analytical sections and quantitative sections. > > * At NCSU, I was the topper in my batch and my grades were perfect 4.0/4.0. > > I had worked in USA for around 6 years in companies like Cisco > Systems, Juniper Networks, etc. But I returned back to India because I > found USA boring and I had got the Green Card also. And my skills are > such that I can get a job any time in USA from India and I will also > get H1-B visa easily because I have done MS from USA and so I fall in > the quota of 20,000 H1-B visas that are reserved for those with a > master's degree or higher from a U.S. institution. > > But again, if someone doesn't do the right thing, that person will > lose. My job is only to suggest the right thing to do. If people don't > think that I am saying the right things, it is ok with me. > > If people don't agree with me, it is fine with me, I am not losing > anything. > > Regards, > Amit > -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Why is Linux desktop not popular among non-programmers?
PPS: On Mon, 2025-02-03 at 17:13 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > https://www.zdnet.de/41548848/auswaertiges-amt-wechselt-von-linux-zurueck-zu-windows/ This is something that also applies to numerous German cities and other authorities. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Why is Linux desktop not popular among non-programmers?
On Mon, 2025-02-03 at 20:49 +0530, Amit wrote: > I had even sent an email to Germany's finance minister to adopt linux > for all the government organizations in Germany. "Federal Foreign Office switches from Linux back to Windows In 2007, the use of Linux was still regarded as a flagship project. Now the German government is talking about a lack of acceptance and driver problems. The desired cost savings can only be “exploited to a limited extent”. by Florian Kalenda and Sibylle Gaßner on February 15, 2011 , 4:56 pm" - https://www.zdnet.de/41548848/auswaertiges-amt-wechselt-von-linux-zurueck-zu-windows/ "Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? [snip] It was a disaster. No one would accept the program." - Agent Smith -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Why is Linux desktop not popular among non-programmers?
> PPS: > > On Mon, 2025-02-03 at 17:13 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > https://www.zdnet.de/41548848/auswaertiges-amt-wechselt-von-linux-zurueck-zu-windows/ > > This is something that also applies to numerous German cities and other > authorities. Well, if linux kernel developers had made developing device drivers on linux very easy (as easy as developing drivers for Windows) then may be the Federal Foreign Office would still be using linux. Even today, it is not easy to write device drivers on linux and that's why companies don't develop drivers for linux. Regards, Amit -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
