Re: [il] Re: pre-installed keyboard layouts for specific language
I didn't try the legacy ISO, but I was able to get the Hebrew keyboard
working by enabling a Hebrew locale. I shouldn't have to do that, but at
least there is a workaround.
Ironically, my English locale enables all kinds of Indian fonts, which tend
to clutter up my LibreOffice font menu, and which I will never be smart
enough to use. But the one keyboard I want to use...
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 6:02 PM Gunnar Hjalmarsson
wrote:
> On 2023-02-27 00:17, Coburn Ingram wrote:
> > I did verify this problem.
> >
> > With a fresh install to a thumbdrive of Ubuntu 23.04, using *mkusb,
> > *i.e. a persistent live ISO, the only Hebrew keyboard available was
> > the primitive consonants-only keyboard. Sorry, I forget the name. I'm
> > not on that install any more, and I believe it is not one of the
> > options in the definitions file. The *il* definitions file with all
> > the other options was still present in */usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols*.
> >
> > With a fresh install to a thumbdrive of Ubuntu 23.04 using a
> > standard install, i.e. hardware-agnostic normal install, there were
> > *no* Hebrew keyboards available, even when I ran *gsettings set
> > org.gnome.desktop.input-sources show-all-sources true*. The *il*
> > definitions file is still present and complete.
>
> Ok..
>
> I just made an install of 23.04 in VirtualBox, chose the basic Hebrew
> layout in the installer, and it resulted in:
>
> $ gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.input-sources sources
> [('xkb', 'us'), ('xkb', 'il')]
>
> available at first login.
>
> (I used the "legacy" ISO.)
>
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Version Errors in Emacs packages
I'm getting a number of errors when installing emacs packages from the melpa/elpa library. The elpa library is serving packages that are related to version 28.x of Emacs, but the Ubuntu 22.04 and 22.10 packages are still at 27.1. This is causing issues which is forcing me to recompile all of the emacs packages I download. The simplest solution from my perspective would be to bump the Ubuntu emacs package to use version 28 (or add an optional version 28 package). As version 28 has been around for a year now, it should be stable. [Flatpack and snap are not options. The sandboxing causes emacs to behave strangely under flatpak; haven't tried snap.] Thanks, --Russell Almond -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Version Errors in Emacs packages
Hello Russell, Since I encountered the same issue with you a couple of months before, I think it might help you looking at https://launchpad.net/~kelleyk/+archive/ubuntu/emacs. Best regards, Charalampos On 27/2/23 7:15 PM, Russell Almond wrote: I'm getting a number of errors when installing emacs packages from the melpa/elpa library. The elpa library is serving packages that are related to version 28.x of Emacs, but the Ubuntu 22.04 and 22.10 packages are still at 27.1. This is causing issues which is forcing me to recompile all of the emacs packages I download. The simplest solution from my perspective would be to bump the Ubuntu emacs package to use version 28 (or add an optional version 28 package). As version 28 has been around for a year now, it should be stable. [Flatpack and snap are not options. The sandboxing causes emacs to behave strangely under flatpak; haven't tried snap.] Thanks, --Russell Almond -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [il] Re: pre-installed keyboard layouts for specific language
Well, Coburn, first I suspected that it was the UI for adding keyboard
layouts which was the problem. Then you made me believe that the issue
you are experiencing is somehow related to the installer. And now I
think — again — that it's the Settings -> Keyboard UI.
Please note: Keyboard layouts are *working* irrespective of which locale
is enabled. But indeed, the behavior of the overcomplicated UI for
adding layouts is affected by the selected locale.
You really need to be more specific if you seek others' attention to a
problem you are having. I have stopped guessing.
/ Gunnar
On 2023-02-27 17:45, Coburn Ingram wrote:
I didn't try the legacy ISO, but I was able to get the Hebrew keyboard
working by enabling a Hebrew locale. I shouldn't have to do that, but at
least there is a workaround.
Ironically, my English locale enables all kinds of Indian fonts, which tend
to clutter up my LibreOffice font menu, and which I will never be smart
enough to use. But the one keyboard I want to use...
On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 6:02 PM Gunnar Hjalmarsson
wrote:
On 2023-02-27 00:17, Coburn Ingram wrote:
I did verify this problem.
With a fresh install to a thumbdrive of Ubuntu 23.04, using *mkusb,
*i.e. a persistent live ISO, the only Hebrew keyboard available was
the primitive consonants-only keyboard. Sorry, I forget the name. I'm
not on that install any more, and I believe it is not one of the
options in the definitions file. The *il* definitions file with all
the other options was still present in */usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols*.
With a fresh install to a thumbdrive of Ubuntu 23.04 using a
standard install, i.e. hardware-agnostic normal install, there were
*no* Hebrew keyboards available, even when I ran *gsettings set
org.gnome.desktop.input-sources show-all-sources true*. The *il*
definitions file is still present and complete.
Ok..
I just made an install of 23.04 in VirtualBox, chose the basic Hebrew
layout in the installer, and it resulted in:
$ gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.input-sources sources
[('xkb', 'us'), ('xkb', 'il')]
available at first login.
(I used the "legacy" ISO.)
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Re: Version Errors in Emacs packages
hi, Am Montag, dem 27.02.2023 um 12:15 -0500 schrieb Russell Almond: > > [Flatpack and snap are not options. The sandboxing causes emacs to > behave strangely under flatpak; haven't tried snap.] > the snap is completely unconfined/un-sandboxed (pretty much the equivalent of an upstream binary tarball that installs into /opt, just with the snap packaging advantages (rollback, snapshots, delta upgrades, etc)) ogra@acheron:~$ snap info --verbose emacs | grep confinement confinement: classic ogra@acheron:~$ ciao oli signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [il] Re: pre-installed keyboard layouts for specific language
Sorry, I can't be more specific. You are right that it is the UI that is
the problem, but I thought that was obvious. Do you have a recommendation
as to who I should contact?
On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 9:32 AM Gunnar Hjalmarsson
wrote:
> Well, Coburn, first I suspected that it was the UI for adding keyboard
> layouts which was the problem. Then you made me believe that the issue
> you are experiencing is somehow related to the installer. And now I
> think — again — that it's the Settings -> Keyboard UI.
>
> Please note: Keyboard layouts are *working* irrespective of which locale
> is enabled. But indeed, the behavior of the overcomplicated UI for
> adding layouts is affected by the selected locale.
>
> You really need to be more specific if you seek others' attention to a
> problem you are having. I have stopped guessing.
>
> / Gunnar
>
>
> On 2023-02-27 17:45, Coburn Ingram wrote:
> > I didn't try the legacy ISO, but I was able to get the Hebrew keyboard
> > working by enabling a Hebrew locale. I shouldn't have to do that, but at
> > least there is a workaround.
> >
> > Ironically, my English locale enables all kinds of Indian fonts, which
> tend
> > to clutter up my LibreOffice font menu, and which I will never be smart
> > enough to use. But the one keyboard I want to use...
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 6:02 PM Gunnar Hjalmarsson
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 2023-02-27 00:17, Coburn Ingram wrote:
> >>> I did verify this problem.
> >>>
> >>> With a fresh install to a thumbdrive of Ubuntu 23.04, using *mkusb,
> >>> *i.e. a persistent live ISO, the only Hebrew keyboard available was
> >>> the primitive consonants-only keyboard. Sorry, I forget the name. I'm
> >>> not on that install any more, and I believe it is not one of the
> >>> options in the definitions file. The *il* definitions file with all
> >>> the other options was still present in */usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols*.
> >>>
> >>> With a fresh install to a thumbdrive of Ubuntu 23.04 using a
> >>> standard install, i.e. hardware-agnostic normal install, there were
> >>> *no* Hebrew keyboards available, even when I ran *gsettings set
> >>> org.gnome.desktop.input-sources show-all-sources true*. The *il*
> >>> definitions file is still present and complete.
> >>
> >> Ok..
> >>
> >> I just made an install of 23.04 in VirtualBox, chose the basic Hebrew
> >> layout in the installer, and it resulted in:
> >>
> >> $ gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.input-sources sources
> >> [('xkb', 'us'), ('xkb', 'il')]
> >>
> >> available at first login.
> >>
> >> (I used the "legacy" ISO.)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gunnar Hjalmarsson
> >> https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj
> >>
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Re: [il] Re: pre-installed keyboard layouts for specific language
Hi again, Coburn! Finally I realized what the nature of your issue is. It's an old GNOME issue — almost 5 years old... On 2023-02-27 20:23, Coburn Ingram wrote: Do you have a recommendation as to who I should contact? Yes. I suggest that you make some noise at this issue: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues/82 I already added your case in the description of that issue. -- Cheers, Gunnar Hjalmarsson https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [il] Re: pre-installed keyboard layouts for specific language
Mucho thanks. I didn't expect that this list would be able to solve my problem, but I hoped somebody would point me to the answer, and you have. Thanks. On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 11:53 AM Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: > Hi again, Coburn! > > Finally I realized what the nature of your issue is. It's an old GNOME > issue — almost 5 years old... > > On 2023-02-27 20:23, Coburn Ingram wrote: > > Do you have a recommendation as to who I should contact? > > Yes. I suggest that you make some noise at this issue: > > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues/82 > > I already added your case in the description of that issue. > > -- > Cheers, > > Gunnar Hjalmarsson > https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss > -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
