Lucid -> Precise trouble with do-release-upgrade

2012-02-12 Thread Nils Kassube
When I try to upgrade (a copy of) my main system from Lucid to Precise 
with the command "do-release-upgrade -d", I get the following message:

| Could not calculate the upgrade
| 
| An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
| E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
| caused by held packages.
| 
| This can be caused by:
| * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
| * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu
| * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu
| 
| If none of this applies, then please report this bug using the
| command 'ubuntu-bug update-manager' in a terminal.

Well, I do have packages installed which were not provided by Ubuntu and 
I tried to upgrade to a pre-release version. Does it really mean I 
should not report the problem? After all I found a workaround for this 
situation by removing some packages which were installed from the Ubuntu 
repos. Here is a summary of the workaround:

1. I had installed the package "gcj-jdk" including dependencies. 
Removing these packages let the upgrade continue without the error 
message above.

2. However the upgrade stopped after a few packages were installed with 
a failure message concerning the package "lib32asound2". After also 
removing the packages which depended on this package (ia32libs, wine1.2, 
etc.) from a fresh copy of the system, I could successfully run the 
upgrade.

3. After the first reboot, I got the error message "Could not start D-
Bus. Can you call qdbus?" like it is mentioned at [1] (this is a Kubuntu 
system btw). After manually installing the package "qdbus", the system 
worked.

Please advise if and what I should report at launchpad.


Nils

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Re: Lucid -> Precise trouble with do-release-upgrade

2012-02-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 09:18:45AM +0100, Nils Kassube wrote:
> When I try to upgrade (a copy of) my main system from Lucid to Precise 
> with the command "do-release-upgrade -d", I get the following message:
> 
> | Could not calculate the upgrade
> | 
> | An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
> | E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
> | caused by held packages.
> | 
> | This can be caused by:
> | * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
> | * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu
> | * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu
> | 
> | If none of this applies, then please report this bug using the
> | command 'ubuntu-bug update-manager' in a terminal.
> 
> Well, I do have packages installed which were not provided by Ubuntu and 
> I tried to upgrade to a pre-release version. Does it really mean I 
> should not report the problem?

You should report it.  (Hmm, yes, the message is misleading.)

> After all I found a workaround for this situation by removing some
> packages which were installed from the Ubuntu repos.

The more situations we can make work without workarounds, the better it
will be for everyone.  We've been working our way through several of the
more frequent upgrade problems, but it's not surprising that we haven't
caught them all yet.

> 1. I had installed the package "gcj-jdk" including dependencies. 
> Removing these packages let the upgrade continue without the error 
> message above.
> 
> 2. However the upgrade stopped after a few packages were installed with 
> a failure message concerning the package "lib32asound2". After also 
> removing the packages which depended on this package (ia32libs, wine1.2, 
> etc.) from a fresh copy of the system, I could successfully run the 
> upgrade.
> 
> 3. After the first reboot, I got the error message "Could not start D-
> Bus. Can you call qdbus?" like it is mentioned at [1] (this is a Kubuntu 
> system btw). After manually installing the package "qdbus", the system 
> worked.
> 
> Please advise if and what I should report at launchpad.

This is excellent information for a bug report.  Please file it using
'ubuntu-bug update-manager' as described; that should automatically
attach enough information to let us reproduce it.

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Re: Lucid -> Precise trouble with do-release-upgrade

2012-02-12 Thread Nils Kassube
Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 09:18:45AM +0100, Nils Kassube wrote:
> > When I try to upgrade (a copy of) my main system from Lucid to
> > Precise
> > 
> > with the command "do-release-upgrade -d", I get the following 
message:
> > | Could not calculate the upgrade
> > | 
> > | An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
> > | E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may
> > | be caused by held packages.
> > | 
> > | This can be caused by:
> > | * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
> > | * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu
> > | * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu
> > | 
> > | If none of this applies, then please report this bug using the
> > | command 'ubuntu-bug update-manager' in a terminal.
> > 
> > Well, I do have packages installed which were not provided by
> > Ubuntu and I tried to upgrade to a pre-release version. Does it
> > really mean I should not report the problem?
> 
> You should report it.  (Hmm, yes, the message is misleading.)

Done (#930993).


Nils

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Re: Lucid -> Precise trouble with do-release-upgrade

2012-02-12 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 01:53:34PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 09:18:45AM +0100, Nils Kassube wrote:
> > Well, I do have packages installed which were not provided by Ubuntu and 
> > I tried to upgrade to a pre-release version. Does it really mean I 
> > should not report the problem?
> 
> You should report it.  (Hmm, yes, the message is misleading.)
> 
> > After all I found a workaround for this situation by removing some
> > packages which were installed from the Ubuntu repos.
> 
> The more situations we can make work without workarounds, the better it
> will be for everyone.  We've been working our way through several of the
> more frequent upgrade problems, but it's not surprising that we haven't
> caught them all yet.

I've recently encountered an upgrade problem that I didn't report.

I've upgraded an Asus EeePC 900 from 10.10 to 11.04 using the GUI
(update-manager).  Due to the extremely slow SSD on the Asus the upgrade
took about 10 hours, so I left it unattended.  The next morning I found
that X had either crashed or restarted, leaving 'dpkg' and 'natty'
processes stuck in the background without a tty (strace on the dpkg
showed it was blocked trying to write to fd 1).  I managed to recover by
killall'ing dpkg and natty and doing a dpkg --configure -a over ssh
(the gdm login screen was completely nonresponsive to keyboard and mouse
input).

I haven't filed a bug because I've no idea what happened (neither
/var/log/Xorg.0.log nor /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old didn't have anything
suspicious like a stack trace; there were no segfault notices in dmesg).
Should I have?

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Re: Bulid dedicated kernels.

2012-02-12 Thread HSO
Smart buld. - Only Laptopo/Notebook - One kernel in one/two Month -
and not bulid form scratch - but bulid by decres a module range like:
some Laptop have no AGP - other have no PCI-E - one use pcmcia - other
don't have - one use PAE ext, other don't etc, etc. And bulid only for
lack performens of Laptopo/Notebook computers. And when it's costly -
then do a long in time - by 10 - 20 Years -  above 60 or 120  or 240
Kernel - and it's some of collection.





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Lshw/lspci - consolidate list of hardware.

2012-02-12 Thread HSO
You can consider - make lswh or lspci - or similar app to make a list
of hardware - and with this list start a requ. modlues kernel.



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Re: Lshw/lspci - consolidate list of hardware.

2012-02-12 Thread Krzysztof Klimonda
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On 02/12/2012 08:28 PM, HSO wrote:
> You can consider - make lswh or lspci - or similar app to make a
> list of hardware - and with this list start a requ. modlues
> kernel.
> 

If by that you mean generating initrd image with only required modules
then there is already some code in initramfs-tools that tries to do
that. You can enable it by setting MODULES=dep in
/etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf

Cheers,
  KK
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Re: Lshw/lspci - consolidate list of hardware.

2012-02-12 Thread HSO
The list - if add some Device  - will be dynamic.

Thx - try a proposed solution.

2012/2/12, Krzysztof Klimonda :
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> On 02/12/2012 08:28 PM, HSO wrote:
>> You can consider - make lswh or lspci - or similar app to make a
>> list of hardware - and with this list start a requ. modlues
>> kernel.
>>
>
> If by that you mean generating initrd image with only required modules
> then there is already some code in initramfs-tools that tries to do
> that. You can enable it by setting MODULES=dep in
> /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
>
> Cheers,
>   KK
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Re: MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-12 Thread Fabio T. Leitao
The first time I have attempted this was in the previous release of Ubuntu,
o I am not totally sure of what version number was available.

At least two of the most recent trys were with 11.10 oneiric... the servers
had mysql 5.1.58-1ubuntu1 and now are running
mariadb 5.2.10-mariadb107~oneiric

I have got those binaries from their official repository:
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mariadb/repo/5.2/ubuntu/ oneiric/main i386

I also use their libraries for apache and rails (the framework that runs on
these servers)

2012/2/12 Marc Deslauriers 

> On Sat, 2012-02-11 at 20:47 -0200, Fabio T. Leitao wrote:
> > I have already moved some of my servers to mariadb, with minor to none
> > downtime during the process, but I have also kept some of them stuck
> > with mysql just because of the "official" support (well, it is the
> > elected one in main repository after all)
>
> Out of curiosity, what version of MySQL did you migrate to what version
> of MariaDB?
>
> Marc.
>
>
>
>


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window-picker-applet GTK+3 port

2012-02-12 Thread Lanoxx
Hi,

I have finished the port of window-picker-applet to GTK+3 [1]. I believe
the current version is stable enough to be used by normal users and I'm
now working on adding new features such as drag and drop window
reordering as it was requested in bug #356980 [2]. It is mostly finished
but I am busy with other things so it might take some time until I get
to fixing the remaining bugs.

As Andrew Starr-Bochicchio suggested I have contacted Guido Guenter from
Debian about uploading this into Debian but I am not very familiar with
building packages so it might take a while until this ends up in Debian.
Also Guido is not actually maintaining this anymore so if at all he
would only be my mentor and I would actually continue to maintain it in
the future.

Now, my question is if it would be possible to also get my code into
Precise first so it can still be included in the next release and then I
can work in parallel on getting the packages for Debian, so in the
q-series it could then be automatically synced from Debian.

Would anyone be interested in having a working window-picker package for
Precise and can possible support me with this? Is there still enough
time before the code freeze of Ubuntu? Or is the only way to get this
into Ubuntu by first getting it into Debian?

Feedback is appreciated.

Thanks,
Lanoxx

[1] https://github.com/lanoxx/window-picker-applet

[2]
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/window-picker-applet/+bug/356980

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Re: Lshw/lspci - consolidate list of hardware.

2012-02-12 Thread HSO
In Window we have a Manager Device - lis of all hardware - when drive
are miss in windows - the device has yellow question mark - that kind
of list I have in mind.

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