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[richard]

Hi All
this one is going to hack off a lot of users
if Freevo is loaded and you burn either a CD or DVD with MP3 or similar 
media files, you can not as a user unmount or eject the CD or DVD once
its burnt.
You find your CD/DVD stuck in the drive with K3B unable to eject it.
If you try to unmount and eject by right clicking on the desktop icon
you get the message that only freevo can unmount it.
Luckily it lies and root can unmount and eject.
I suspect its going to cause users to hit the reset button and a lot of
swearing.
I upgraded from 8.10, I'm downloading todays snapshot to do a clean
install and see if the same happens.

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CD burning: Audio, mixed, and MP3 CDs

[John Moser]

First off I dislike Brasero, the UI's complex.  Nautilus CD creator or
Serpantine holds up better for elegant simplicity.  But whatever,
Brasero's more powerful and consolidated.

I have a stereo system in my car.  It can't read DVD-Audio (... why?
WHY DOES NOTHING SUPPORT DVD-A?!), or even a DVD+R with MP3s burned on
it (WHY?!).  It can read a CD-R with MP3s burned on it, and read M3U
playlists.

Many portable CD players fall into this category:  they play CDs, but
can read a CD full of MP3s.  It's feasible that some devices could
even read Ogg Vorbis (Creative ZEN does...).

PROBLEM:  I have audio files in FLAC, MP3, and Ogg Vorbis formats, and
can make audio CDs from them; but I can't make MP3 CDs without manual
work.

Let's say I'm burning an Audio CD.  I may want to say, "Make a Digital
Audio CD" instead-- a CD with digital audio files on it rather than
digital audio tracks.

Maybe my player allows multiple formats.  Let's say I prefer Ogg
Vorbis, but my player Supports FLAC, Vorbis, and MP3.  I would set
that this CD prefers Ogg Vorbis, but that MP3 and FLAC are supported.

Now, when I come across a non-Vorbis/MP3/FLAC file, it auto-transcodes
into Vorbis.

When I run out of space, it warns me that some FLAC files will get
transcoded into Vorbis.

Other than that, anything I throw at it gets burned to the CD.
Ability to lay out a directory hierarchy and playlists would be nice
too, but pretty much it should just burn files to the CD in an audio
format I've set.  If that format is "MP3" and no others, it should
convert anything I give it to MP3.  If it's a mix of input and
supported, it should go by my preference.  Then I could load an 80
minute CD with 150 songs (why oh why don't brand new car CD players
with MP3 support read DVDs?!) and head out.

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Re:>20M users ( Please don't automatic upgrade )

[(``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo]

Olá Matthew e a todos.

On Tuesday 07 April 2009 14:27:41 Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
> That approach might scale to about 10 million users max -- or maybe 20 million
> when you buy any of the several computers they have with Ubuntu preinstalled.

You mean to say that there are now over 20M Ubuntu users?
As a FOSS and Ubuntu advocate I would like to see hard data on that, so I can 
link to it.
Thanks.

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Re: CD burning: Audio, mixed, and MP3 CDs

[Mackenzie Morgan]

On Friday 10 April 2009 7:28:33 pm John Moser wrote:
> First off I dislike Brasero, the UI's complex.  Nautilus CD creator or
> Serpantine holds up better for elegant simplicity.  But whatever,
> Brasero's more powerful and consolidated.

AFAICT, it's as powerful as Gnomebaker or K3B but with a simpler UI.

> Other than that, anything I throw at it gets burned to the CD.
> Ability to lay out a directory hierarchy and playlists would be nice
> too, but pretty much it should just burn files to the CD in an audio
> format I've set.  If that format is "MP3" and no others, it should
> convert anything I give it to MP3.  If it's a mix of input and
> supported, it should go by my preference.  

Nice idea.  Makes sense.  On further extension, teaching Rhythmbox to 
transcode when transferring music to a player (I think Banshee does this?) 
would be nice too.

>  (why oh why don't brand new car CD players
> with MP3 support read DVDs?!)

Because then it would be a misnomer.

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Re: >20M users ( Please don't automatic upgrade )

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

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(``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo wrote on 11/04/09 01:36:
>...
> On Tuesday 07 April 2009 14:27:41 Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
>> 
>> That approach might scale to about 10 million users max -- or maybe
>> 20 million when you buy any of the several computers they have with
>> Ubuntu preinstalled.
> 
> You mean to say that there are now over 20M Ubuntu users?

No, I did not say what you have quoted me as saying. You have stitched
together two unrelated part-sentences from different paragraphs. That's
not cool.

> As a FOSS and Ubuntu advocate I would like to see hard data on that,
> so I can link to it.
> Thanks.

I have no data other than the widely-reported "over 8 million" figure.



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Re: CD burning: Audio, mixed, and MP3 CDs

[Evan]

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Mackenzie Morgan  wrote:

> On Friday 10 April 2009 7:28:33 pm John Moser wrote:
> > Other than that, anything I throw at it gets burned to the CD.
> > Ability to lay out a directory hierarchy and playlists would be nice
> > too, but pretty much it should just burn files to the CD in an audio
> > format I've set.  If that format is "MP3" and no others, it should
> > convert anything I give it to MP3.  If it's a mix of input and
> > supported, it should go by my preference.
>
> Nice idea.  Makes sense.  On further extension, teaching Rhythmbox to
> transcode when transferring music to a player (I think Banshee does this?)
> would be nice too.


I second that. Auto-transcoding in rhythmbox has been on my wishlist for a
long time. If someone familiar with the Rhythmbox code would be kind enough
to point me in the right direction, I'd be willing to work on it for Karmic,
time permitting.
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