Re: kernel module & python numpy

[Oliver Grawert]

hi,
On Do, 2008-08-07 at 00:00 +0200, Sebastian Krause wrote:
> Oliver Grawert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hi I've asked this question before and not had an answer.
> >> The kernel module for this onboard NIC is broken and has been since
> >> kernel version 2.6.22
> >
> > does adding pci=nomsi to your grub line help (i had a similar prob with
> > the RTL8101E whete this setting solved the prob) ?
> 
> This is actually a known bug in Ubuntu which has been around for
> quite a while, and finally something seems to happen about it:
> 
in 2.6.24 the r8169 driver was switched to use msi, which apparently
broke it on various systems. we were actively working on
https://bugs.launchpad.net/cmpc/+bug/247478 ...
if the nomsi setting helps for the above case too this would be a common
indicator to fix exactly this area, thats why i asked above if pci=nomsi
helps for other cards using this driver as well ...

ciao
oli


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Re: Login Panel text placement...

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

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Hi Mayuresh

Mayuresh Kathe wrote on 06/08/08 14:42:
>...
> I've observed that the text in the textbox of the Login panel isn't
> centered vertically.
> I find it to be aesthetically flawed.
> Can it be rectified in the next version?
>...

Is that the same as this problem? 

If it's not, I suggest reporting a bug, including a picture.
 (If
you can set up a virtual machine, this picture could be a screenshot;
otherwise you might need to use a digital camera.)

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Re: ConsoleKit (0.2.10) / PolicyKit / Security hole

[Sebastien Bacher]

Le samedi 19 juillet 2008 à 11:26 +0100, Martin Pitt a écrit :
> > Currently, there is no user of the CK Restart/Stop methods (new gdm
> will  
> > use it, which is neither in Debian nor Ubuntu, though).
> 
> Seb is currently fighting with the new gdm, but it is horribly
> incomplete yet, and nowhere near to being a replacement for 2.20. So I
> don't see it going into neither Lenny nor Intrepid.

Hey there,

I took some time to look why the gnome-session restart and halt actions
don't work in intrepid and that turns out it's due to that, the new
gnome-session uses those actions which don't work in ubuntu, the bug is
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/consolekit/+bug/250506 
for reference, anybody having a suggestion on what would the best way to
resolve the issue?

Sebastien Bacher


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Re: Login Panel text placement...

[Jeroen Wouters]

Op donderdag 07-08-2008 om 17:07 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Matthew
Paul Thomas:
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> Hi Mayuresh
> 
> Mayuresh Kathe wrote on 06/08/08 14:42:
> >...
> > I've observed that the text in the textbox of the Login panel isn't
> > centered vertically.
> > I find it to be aesthetically flawed.
> > Can it be rectified in the next version?
> >...
> 
> Is that the same as this problem? 
> 
> If it's not, I suggest reporting a bug, including a picture.
>  (If
> you can set up a virtual machine, this picture could be a screenshot;
> otherwise you might need to use a digital camera.)
> 

This command might be useful as well:
gdmflexiserver --xnest

Regards,
Jeroen


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Re: kernel module & python numpy

[richard]

On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:14:34 +0200
Oliver Grawert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hi,
> On Mi, 2008-08-06 at 20:20 +0100, richard wrote:
> > 
> > Hi I've asked this question before and not had an answer.
> > The kernel module for this onboard NIC is broken and has been since
> > kernel version 2.6.22
> > 
> >  Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B
> > PCI
> does adding pci=nomsi to your grub line help (i had a similar prob
> with the RTL8101E whete this setting solved the prob) ?
> 
> ciao
>   oli
> 
Hi Oli
I tried as you suggested, unfortunately it didn't help.

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Tahoma (or, Does anyone have a copy of "Microsoft Office 97 Developer Edition"?)

[Conrad Knauer]

I think I've found a solution to the Tahoma Bold font not being
generally redistributable for the msttcorefonts package.

As I wrote on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/50529

---
I discovered something interesting that I thought I should contact
you about:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/169813/EN-US/

"Microsoft Office 97 Developer Edition includes a Setup Wizard that
you can use to create a Setup program that users can run to install
files for a custom application. [...] The files available for
distribution allow you to distribute an application developed using
Microsoft Access to users who do not have Microsoft Access."

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/163535/en-us

"a list of the files that you can redistribute with a run-time
application which you create using the Microsoft Office 97 Developer
Edition Tools [...] TAHOMA.TTF TAHOMABD.TTF"

Does that mean what I think it does? :-)
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Does anyone on this list happen to have a copy of "Microsoft Office 97
Developer Edition" to test that out with? :)

CK

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OpenChange

[Kevin Fries]

We are in the process of changing our Exchange server here to 2007.  This 
breaks the Evolution in Hardy.  There appears to be a fix and it appears to be 
a plug-in as part of the OpenChange project.  It looks like it is supposed to 
make it into Evolution 2.24, and Fedora is already reporting that it will be 
part of version 10.  Does anyone know if this is going to make it into Intrepid?

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Re: OpenChange

[Paul Smith]

On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 14:52 -0600, Kevin Fries wrote:
> We are in the process of changing our Exchange server here to 2007.
> This breaks the Evolution in Hardy.  There appears to be a fix and it
> appears to be a plug-in as part of the OpenChange project.  It looks
> like it is supposed to make it into Evolution 2.24, and Fedora is
> already reporting that it will be part of version 10.  Does anyone
> know if this is going to make it into Intrepid?

One of the basic tenets of Ubuntu was that it ships with the latest
version of Gnome.  In fact, the release schedule of Oct/Apr was chosen
mainly based on the Gnome release schedule, to allow Ubuntu to be one of
the first distributions out the door with each new version of Gnome.

All that to say, Intrepid will ship with Gnome 2.24, so if this plugin
makes it into Gnome 2.24 it will be in Intrepid.

Personally, following the Evo mailing lists, I'm not confident that this
plugin WILL be ready for 2.24 (note that it relies on libraries provided
by the Samba folks, so it's not all up to Gnome devs).  But, you never
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Re: Tahoma (or, Does anyone have a copy of "Microsoft Office 97 Developer Edition"?)

[Remco]

That's quite ingenious! ;-) However, does the Wine project not already
provide a Tahoma replacement? Maybe efforts could be spent on
improving quality of that font instead, if necessary.

Remco

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Re: Tahoma (or, Does anyone have a copy of "Microsoft Office 97 Developer Edition"?)

[Onno Benschop]

On 08/08/08 03:43, Conrad Knauer wrote:
> I think I've found a solution to the Tahoma Bold font not being
> generally redistributable for the msttcorefonts package.
>
> As I wrote on 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/msttcorefonts/+bug/50529
>
> ---
> I discovered something interesting that I thought I should contact
> you about:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/169813/EN-US/
>
> "Microsoft Office 97 Developer Edition includes a Setup Wizard that
> you can use to create a Setup program that users can run to install
> files for a custom application. [...] The files available for
> distribution allow you to distribute an application developed using
> Microsoft Access to users who do not have Microsoft Access."
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/163535/en-us
>
> "a list of the files that you can redistribute with a run-time
> application which you create using the Microsoft Office 97 Developer
> Edition Tools [...] TAHOMA.TTF TAHOMABD.TTF"
>
> Does that mean what I think it does? :-)
> ---
>
> Does anyone on this list happen to have a copy of "Microsoft Office 97
> Developer Edition" to test that out with? :)
>
> CK
>
>   
IANAL, but as I read that: *If* you create a run-time with the Microsoft
Office 97 Developer Edition Tools, *then* you can redistribute
TAHOMA.TTF TAHOMABD.TTF with said run-time.

I suppose you could create a run-time that said "Hello World", and
distribute that with the two files, but I'm pretty sure that's not what
you meant :)

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Re: Tahoma (or, Does anyone have a copy of "Microsoft Office 97 Developer Edition"?)

[Conrad Knauer]

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Remco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> does the Wine project not already
> provide a Tahoma replacement? Maybe efforts could be spent on
> improving quality of that font instead, if necessary.

Oh, I'm not saying that a libre replacement wouldn't be vastly
preferable, I'm just pointing out that I think I've found a way to
work-around a bug that's been causing grief for quite a few people
(and in a way that people who aren't necessarily font developers can
help :)

CK

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Re: Tahoma (or, Does anyone have a copy of "Microsoft Office 97 Developer Edition"?)

[Conrad Knauer]

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Onno Benschop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> "Microsoft Office 97 Developer Edition includes a Setup Wizard that
>> you can use to create a Setup program that users can run to install
>> files for a custom application. [...] The files available for
>> distribution allow you to distribute an application developed using
>> Microsoft Access to users who do not have Microsoft Access."
[snip]
>>
> IANAL, but as I read that: *If* you create a run-time with the Microsoft
> Office 97 Developer Edition Tools, *then* you can redistribute
> TAHOMA.TTF TAHOMABD.TTF with said run-time.
>
> I suppose you could create a run-time that said "Hello World", and
> distribute that with the two files, but I'm pretty sure that's not what
> you meant :)

Actually yes, that is *exactly* the sort of thing I was proposing! =D

Just be sure that it displays "Hello" in Tahoma and "World" in Tahoma Bold ;-)

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Re: Tahoma (or, Does anyone have a copy of "Microsoft Office 97 Developer Edition"?)

[Onno Benschop]

On 08/08/08 07:18, Conrad Knauer wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Onno Benschop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>>> "Microsoft Office 97 Developer Edition includes a Setup Wizard that
>>> you can use to create a Setup program that users can run to install
>>> files for a custom application. [...] The files available for
>>> distribution allow you to distribute an application developed using
>>> Microsoft Access to users who do not have Microsoft Access."
>>>   
> [snip]
>   
>> IANAL, but as I read that: *If* you create a run-time with the Microsoft
>> Office 97 Developer Edition Tools, *then* you can redistribute
>> TAHOMA.TTF TAHOMABD.TTF with said run-time.
>>
>> I suppose you could create a run-time that said "Hello World", and
>> distribute that with the two files, but I'm pretty sure that's not what
>> you meant :)
>> 
>
> Actually yes, that is *exactly* the sort of thing I was proposing! =D
>
> Just be sure that it displays "Hello" in Tahoma and "World" in Tahoma Bold ;-)
>
> CK
>
>   
ROTFL :)

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Re: Reporting and Triaging ODP file

[Philip Wyett]

On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 20:24 -0400, Chuck Frain wrote:
> Greetings All,
> 
> At the request of Daniel Holbach I uploaded a presentation that I will 
> be giving on Saturday as a part of the Global Bug Jam for the Maryland 
> Loco team. It is in the 'Material' section at 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RunningBugJam
> 
> Please take a look at it for any glaring errors or omissions. It is 
> geared for new people to the process so don't expect any deep dark 
> secrets about any of the processes to be there:)
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Chuck
> 

In the interests of keeping the team wiki clean and easier to navigate,
this and other user created pages should ideally be sub pages of the
users page i.e. for this presentation for example it could be at:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChuckFrain/RunningBugJam or similar.

The reasoning for this...

1. Makes identifying a particular persons work easier.
2. If edited by someone else it lessens work of others to perform #1.
3. Keeps the root folder of the wiki cleaner.
4. After a time if the page goes stale it won't be accidentally deleted.

It is not just this particular page I want to highlight alone as there
are a considerable amount like it on the team wiki at present. I wish to
promote that extra bit of personal organisation when creating wiki pages
helps the wiki's organisation then look after itself.

Regards

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Re: Reporting and Triaging ODP file

[Scott Kitterman]

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:02:10 +0100 Philip Wyett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 20:24 -0400, Chuck Frain wrote:
>> Greetings All,
>> 
>> At the request of Daniel Holbach I uploaded a presentation that I will 
>> be giving on Saturday as a part of the Global Bug Jam for the Maryland 
>> Loco team. It is in the 'Material' section at 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RunningBugJam
>> 
>> Please take a look at it for any glaring errors or omissions. It is 
>> geared for new people to the process so don't expect any deep dark 
>> secrets about any of the processes to be there:)
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>
>In the interests of keeping the team wiki clean and easier to navigate,
>this and other user created pages should ideally be sub pages of the
>users page i.e. for this presentation for example it could be at:
>
>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChuckFrain/RunningBugJam or similar.
>
>The reasoning for this...
>
>1. Makes identifying a particular persons work easier.

The wiki has a history function.

>2. If edited by someone else it lessens work of others to perform #1.

Not really.  If you want to know who wrote what, you still need to look at 
the diff.

>3. Keeps the root folder of the wiki cleaner.

This is a valid concern, but there are topic based roots that would be much 
better than author based.

>4. After a time if the page goes stale it won't be accidentally deleted.

I assume this is true if it's under a topic based root page too.

>It is not just this particular page I want to highlight alone as there
>are a considerable amount like it on the team wiki at present. I wish to
>promote that extra bit of personal organisation when creating wiki pages
>helps the wiki's organisation then look after itself.

In my experience wikis tend to have rather flat name spaces and that is a 
feature and not a bug.  Organizing by author I don't understant at all.

Scott K

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Re: Reporting and Triaging ODP file

[Philip Wyett]

On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 00:54 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:02:10 +0100 Philip Wyett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 20:24 -0400, Chuck Frain wrote:
> >> Greetings All,
> >> 
> >> At the request of Daniel Holbach I uploaded a presentation that I will 
> >> be giving on Saturday as a part of the Global Bug Jam for the Maryland 
> >> Loco team. It is in the 'Material' section at 
> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RunningBugJam
> >> 
> >> Please take a look at it for any glaring errors or omissions. It is 
> >> geared for new people to the process so don't expect any deep dark 
> >> secrets about any of the processes to be there:)
> >> 
> >> Thanks!
> >> 
> >> Chuck
> >> 
> >
> >In the interests of keeping the team wiki clean and easier to navigate,
> >this and other user created pages should ideally be sub pages of the
> >users page i.e. for this presentation for example it could be at:
> >
> >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChuckFrain/RunningBugJam or similar.
> >
> >The reasoning for this...
> >
> >1. Makes identifying a particular persons work easier.
> 
> The wiki has a history function.
> 
> >2. If edited by someone else it lessens work of others to perform #1.
> 
> Not really.  If you want to know who wrote what, you still need to look at 
> the diff.
> 
> >3. Keeps the root folder of the wiki cleaner.
> 
> This is a valid concern, but there are topic based roots that would be much 
> better than author based.
> 
> >4. After a time if the page goes stale it won't be accidentally deleted.
> 
> I assume this is true if it's under a topic based root page too.
> 
> >It is not just this particular page I want to highlight alone as there
> >are a considerable amount like it on the team wiki at present. I wish to
> >promote that extra bit of personal organisation when creating wiki pages
> >helps the wiki's organisation then look after itself.
> 
> In my experience wikis tend to have rather flat name spaces and that is a 
> feature and not a bug.  Organizing by author I don't understant at all.
> 

Wiki's do not have a flat structure of pages by design. It is the page
creator who locates their files in such a flat structure. If we worked
day to day in a flat structure we would have no such thing as folders
and we would all just throw our files in our home directory and work
like that.

Regards

Phil


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