[Bug 1209176] Re: Make Firefox use the same hyphenation pattern as LibreOffice
This bug got fixed somewhere down the way to Firefox 47.0 ** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Status: New => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1209176 Title: Make Firefox use the same hyphenation pattern as LibreOffice To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1209176/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 650498] Re: Expansion: 'ẞ' LATIN CA PTIAL LETTER SHARP S (U+1E9E)
Yes, there has to be something in that slot, David. But I can’t support your antipathy against the proposed form of the capital ß. It’s definetely not “a strange and distorted ‘big’ version of ß”. Maybe you judge it as a wired form BECAUSE you aren’t German speaker an aren’t used to it. Think åbout lettérş of oŧher lænǥűageƨ. If you don’t see them in evǝrydɐy textƶ, the appear literally as a foreign partiçles. The best thing a font can do is to design them carefully so that they fit into the font. A nice PDF about the “construction” of ẞ is http://www.signographie.de/cms/upload/pdf/SIGNA9_SHARP_S_howto.pdf from the German typograph Andreas Stötzer. He (amongst others) has proposed the Dresdner Form of the ẞ to the Unicode Consortium. More material of this in my opinion very felicitous archetype you can find at http://www.signographie.de/cms/signa_9.htm (in German but maybe the images give an impression) I love the ẞ and I am very proud of having the special letter ß in my language. I’m also happy to have the capital ß as a possibility to make my capitalized family name really non-ambiguous. Please respect the Eigenwilligkeiten (~individualities, originalities) of non-Englisch languages and don’t try to “fix” them. I hope this post wasn’t to emotionally, but to vilify the ẞ isn’t also very objective. -- Expansion: 'ẞ' LATIN CAPTIAL LETTER SHARP S (U+1E9E) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/650498 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 650498] Re: Expansion: 'ẞ' LATIN CA PTIAL LETTER SHARP S (U+1E9E)
Dear mach, I don’t think your arguments are as valid as they seem. Personally I prefer the Dresdner Form of the ẞ but I’m open for facts to convince me. Allow myself to question your points. 1) The Dresden Form does only lean forward or topple, if it is purely designed. As you can see in the image vsz-grauwert there isn’t per se a dark corner top-right. In the special case of the DejaVu family (with a really awful ẞ in its sans variant) it’s the other way round. 2) Of course ß and ẞ could be similar. But they also should differ at such a rate that you could clearly see which one is which. This is valid also for the Duden-Form. 3) Also as an attachment you see all the fonts on my computer that have a ẞ. Most of them are serif and have the Dresdner Form of ẞ, so the images isn’t that objective. But you can compare how the ẞ (not) differs from B and how (not) similar it is to ß. You can also check how it suits to the other capital letters. What I personally see: The difference between B and ẞ is sufficient. And: Whether the ẞ fits to the other letters or not is independent of its basic. More important is its overall design. Oh and I don’t think there’s a either-or between differing from ß and B. The ẞ can differ from ß without any disadvantages in differing from B. 4) I personally think the Dresdner Form ẞ is the most beautiful ẞ I know. – but we should base font design only on opinions, should we? 5) To argue that /ẞ/ is just a variant of /ß/ is the same as to argue /A/ is just a variant of /a/. (See also my second point.) In my opinion you can’t prefer a capital letter form because its similarity to the lowercase one (compare Bb, Dd, Ee, Gg, Hh, Nn, Qq, Rr). The capital case should be recognized, but that’s all. Conclusion: Both shapes could be done bad and well. To decide the ẞ-form we should concentrate on its requirements. These are – as I suppose: • Enough difference between B and ẞ • The ẞ must fit into a row with other capitals • It should be recognised as a capital ß (also if it could be guessed because of the context) As far as I know Andreas Stötzner has researched these requirements and decided for the Dresdner form. Can somebody (in)validate this? Maybe Thorsten? Have you some links why other ẞ-variants were rejected? ** Attachment added: "vsz-grauwert.jpg" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-font-family-sources/+bug/650498/+attachment/1748761/+files/vsz-grauwert.jpg -- Expansion: 'ẞ' LATIN CAPTIAL LETTER SHARP S (U+1E9E) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/650498 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 650498] Re: Expansion: 'ẞ' LATIN CA PTIAL LETTER SHARP S (U+1E9E)
And here the comparision of the ẞes on my computer. ** Attachment added: "vsz-vergleich.jpg" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-font-family-sources/+bug/650498/+attachment/1748762/+files/vsz-vergleich.jpg -- Expansion: 'ẞ' LATIN CAPTIAL LETTER SHARP S (U+1E9E) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/650498 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 650498] Re: Expansion: 'ẞ' LATIN CA PTIAL LETTER SHARP S (U+1E9E)
Thanks for your comparison, Denis! There you can see how poorly Microsoft (or ascender fonts?) designed their ẞ. It looks like you took the ß and put it between the capitals. That’s what I meant with »differing from the capital version«, mach. ẞ and ß should be differ so much, that you can recognise which is which. You are also able to keep apart K an k or F and f. In Segoe or Verdana if you see ẞ or ß alone you wont be able to decide if its a capital or not. The primary requirement of course should be that the ẞ harmonizes with the other capitals. -- Expansion: 'ẞ' LATIN CAPTIAL LETTER SHARP S (U+1E9E) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/650498 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 650498] Re: Expansion: 'ẞ' LATIN CA PTIAL LETTER SHARP S (U+1E9E)
(1) About Switzerland’s ß-substitution: In German there’s a fairly rigid coherence between how you write a word an how you speak it. And a basic rule (not without exceptions, but very few) is, that a vowel before a doubled consonant is spoken short. So the word « Floss » (in Germany »Floß«, engl. “raft”) would have to be pronounced with a short /o/ – which is a completely other word (»floss«, engl. “flowed”). I won’t say this is a demonstration for writing German perfectly well, it’s a solution for writing if you don’t want to use ß. But in Germany and Austria we want (at least I want ☺). (2) About the difference between ẞ and ß: The latin letter capital sharp s often stands alone for the same reasons as all the other capital letters – when you use it in an URL, when it’s meant as a logo or when you refer to it directly. That’s of course not the major task of a letter, but it has to work there, too. A wonderful example for refering the ẞ directly is … surprise: this web page. Imagine ẞ and ß wouldn’t be distinguishable; you wouldn’t understand a lot of comments here. (3) There’s another gallery with ẞ: http://www.typografie.info/2/album.php?albumid=13 . Of course this one, too, won’t show the perfect solution. But it demonstrates something more important: Bruno, also if creating a absolutely new letter is some of the most pleasing work, there are *already* are some limits how a ẞ should look like. The basic structure is fixed. And not only by digital fonts but also by older book titles and grave stones (see also Paul’s visit at a stonemason, comment #22). A /S/ with a slash for example wouldn’t be “entirely what is expected” (as Paul said in comment #71). The main challenge isn’t to create a representation form of the capital variant of ß but to design a shape of the existing letter ẞ that works for the clean and genuisly reduced Ubuntu font. The ẞ gives an opportunity only a few other letters provide (like & or ¶): They show the personal style and spirit of the font. Not by making an anomalous beast but by finding a perfect form that simply fits. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/650498 Title: Expansion: 'ẞ' LATIN CAPTIAL LETTER SHARP S (U+1E9E) -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 820820] Re: cups-pdf should not convert PDF print jobs to PS then to PDF
I discovered this bug just yesterday as I used pdfgrep to find a special expression in the PDF archive of my mails. Only mails before August 2011 were searchable. Until this bug is fixed: What exacxtly do I have to do to prevent the ps-and-back-conversion? I didn’t understand the thing with *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-postscript 100 -" and *cupsFilter: "application/vnd.cups-pdf 0 -"? Where does this have to be added? Anything else? To use “print to file” for every single mail is unsuitable, I need the mass printing where the filename is automatically generated from the mail subject. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/820820 Title: cups-pdf should not convert PDF print jobs to PS then to PDF To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups-pdf/+bug/820820/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1228009] Re: Regression: Zebra striping is no longer present
Okay, I also created a userChrome.css. My code is much more simple and
doesn’t need any !important:
#threadTree > treechildren::-moz-tree-row(even) {
background-color: -moz-oddtreerow; }
If the developers prevent coloring the odd rows, I color the even rows.
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[Bug 1102485] Re: [Precise] In Calc, the "Window" menu isn't reachable
Here is a screen shot. It not only affects the English version but also the German one. ** Attachment added: "Comparison LibO-Calc with and without lo-menubar" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lo-menubar/+bug/1102485/+attachment/3563830/+files/lo-menubar%20without%20window.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1102485 Title: [Precise] In Calc, the "Window" menu isn't reachable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lo-menubar/+bug/1102485/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 894166] [NEW] No hyphenation in Firefox 8.0
Public bug reported: The page http://www.belleslettres.eu/blog/firefox-silbentrennung.php provides a test field for German hyphenation in Firefox 8.0 (build1-0ubuntu0.11.10.3). On my friend’s Windows PC the hyphenation works, but it didn’t work on my Ubuntu Laptop (11.10 Oneiric)– there simply wasn’t any hyphenated word. I tested with a new profile without addons etc. I have filed this bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=704885 too, but there was somebody who got hyphenation with the Mozilla build for Linux x86_64 (also my system). He reasoned the missing hyphenation is caused by the Canonical build. By the way: Does somebody know a testpage for English hyphenation? ** Affects: firefox (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/894166 Title: No hyphenation in Firefox 8.0 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/894166/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1079248] [NEW] Use 12 vertical lines in the battery graph instead of 10
Public bug reported: If you click on the battery icon in the status area and choose “Battery” you can open a diagram about the charge state of your laptop battery (gnome-power-statistics). The diagram’s y-axis is divided from 0% to 100% in steps of 10%. That’s fine. But the x-axis is divided into ten parts, resulting in odd time values. For example if you look up the battery graph for the last 6 hours you get the following steps: 6h, 5h24min, 4h48min, 4h12min, 3h36min, 3h, 2h24min, … the diagram for the last 24h shows the steps: 1d, 21h36min, 19h12min, … If you would divide the x-axis into 12 parts instead of 10, for the last 6 hours you would get: 6h, 5h30min, 5h, 4h30min, 4h, 4h30min, … and for the last 24 hour the steps would be: 24h, 22h, 20h, … That’s easier to understand than the odd in-between values that are shown at the moment. Of course, the values for the 7-days-period would still be a little odd: 7d, 6d10h, 5d20h, 5d06h, … but not worse than now: 7d, 6d07h, 5d14h, 4d21h, 4d04h. I use Precise Pangoline and the gnome-power-manager version 3.4.0-0ubuntu1.1 ** Affects: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1079248 Title: Use 12 vertical lines in the battery graph instead of 10 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/1079248/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 882512] Re: gnome-font-viewer has too close line spacing
Is really noone else affected by this bug? Is it caused by wrong adjustments on my laptop? Does anyone know a possible reason? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/882512 Title: gnome-font-viewer has too close line spacing To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-utils/+bug/882512/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1209176] [NEW] Make Firefox use the same hyphenation pattern as LibreOffice
Public bug reported:
The Mozilla Firefox for Ubuntu canonical - 1.0 supports the CSS feature
hyphens:auto with the prefix -moz. But it doesn’t use the same
hyphenation patterns as for example LibreOffice (as the “fixed” bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/894166 claims).
I’ve made a screenshot comparing the hyphenation between LibreOffice (on
the left) and Firefox 23 (on the right). Note that in this case all
hyphenations of Firefox are wrong, while LibreOffice gets it right.
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Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
Firefox 23.0+build2-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
LibreOffice Writer 1:3.5.7-0ubuntu4
hyphen-de 1:3.3.0-2ubuntu3
hyphen-en-us 2.8.3-1
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Source code of my html page:
Hypenation Test
p {-moz-hyphens:auto; hyphens:auto;
width:3em; border-right: 1px solid red;
font: 1em/1.32 FreeSerif;}
mmmiii Türklinke Übungen wörtlich künftige öffentlich Überschriften
überempfindlich
** Affects: firefox (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Attachment added: "Hyphenation in LibreOffice (left) an Firefox 23."
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1209176/+attachment/3763508/+files/comparison-hyphenation.png
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[Bug 894166] Re: No hyphenation in Firefox 8.0
I think only with appropriate hyphenation you can use justified text on webpages, especially in languages as German. Missing hyphenation sometimes results in catastrophic word spaces. More information about hyphenation and an English test paragraph on http://blog.fontdeck.com/post/9037028497/hyphens (doesn’t work in my Canonical build). Meanwhile I found another hyphenation test page for English → http://meyerweb.com/eric/css/tests/css3/show.php?p=hyphens – the third paragraph should be hyphenated. But there both my friends Windows Firefox 8.0 and my own one fail. Maybe this is because on Eric Meyers page there are no vendor prefixes like moz-hyphens? Does Canonical’s FF support them? If not, my problem is for now insolvable. ** Summary changed: - No hyphenation in Firefox 8.0 + No support for moz-hyphens in Firefox 8.0 (Canonical) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/894166 Title: No support for moz-hyphens in Firefox 8.0 (Canonical) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/894166/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 882512] [NEW] gnome-font-viewer has too close line spacing
Public bug reported: I’ve upgraded from natty to oneiric this week (Ubuntu 11.10). One thing that catched my eye was that the text lines in the gnome-font-viewer are spaced too tight. Not only do ascenders and descenders sometimes touch but overlap (see attachment). This way its more difficult to jugde the characteristics of a font. (gnome-font-viewer 3.2.1-0ubuntu1) ** Affects: gnome-utils (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/882512 Title: gnome-font-viewer has too close line spacing To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-utils/+bug/882512/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 882512] Re: gnome-font-viewer has too close line spacing
** Attachment added: "overlapping lines (not only in the shown Lato font)" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/882512/+attachment/2575129/+files/gfv-overlapping-lines.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/882512 Title: gnome-font-viewer has too close line spacing To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-utils/+bug/882512/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 650498] Re: Expansion: 'ẞ' LATIN CA PTIAL LETTER SHARP S (U+1E9E)
To put a SS-ligature at the position which is indented by the Unicode Consortium to be filled with the letter Capital Sharp S ist wrong. You could write an opentype rule to substitute ß with SS in capitalised words but you shoudn’t missuse the place of a different symbole. The capital Eszett (sharp s) isn’t really an often used letter. The majority of Germans don’t even know it exists since two years. But the general (and still valid) rule to replace it by SS causes some problems. If you capitalize words like “Maße” (metrics) and “Masse” (mass) they become identical (MASSE). With names it’s even more problematical: In my ID-Card my family name is spelled “GROßMANN” to make sure, it is not written “Grossmann”. But that’s orthographically as wrong as writing “BRUnO” or “PAuL” ‒ and it doesn’t please aesthetically, too. The capital Eszett provides an optimal solution. So: Design a real capital Eszett or leave it completely ‒ but don’t fill the gap with the old problematical SS-substitution. By the way: The substitution SZ is ‒ as far as I know ‒ only used by officials because this combination is (almost?) non-existent within natural German words. So it’s less likely to be missinterpreted but also much more strange if used in daily life. -- Expansion: 'ẞ' LATIN CAPTIAL LETTER SHARP S (U+1E9E) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/650498 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
