from:"Omi"



raihan hasnain wrote:
> Which operating system are you using?
>
> As it is a ubuntu mailing list, considering you are using ubuntu
> so check this out
> http://www.ubuntu-bd.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=32
>   



Why the bottom of the page is ?????

Fix that please



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Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] Fedora-bangladesh-list

My only question to Mr. Angle is, why people use Fedora as a OS. OS like 
Fedora gave panic to the users. Look at Ubuntu, how many successful 
desktop users they have.



Hasin
I'm not also against Fedora, but their ultimate goal is to make money by 
selling support. That is why they use critical system like YUM..


Omi



Hasin Hayder wrote:


I am not stereotyping Fedora, but seriously I dont see there is any 
necessity of this distro anymore :)


Debian and Mandriva (former mandrake) are much more matured than this 
one, even you can conside Suse too - I just cant explain how many 
sleepless nights I have spent and how many times my attempts failed to 
migrate to Linux just for Fedora. No one ever guided me that there was 
a distro called Debian when I was really fucked up by dependency panic 
of YUM and I failed to use fedora as a replacement of Windows.


I am repeating again and I am not totally against Fedora, but I find 
it's useless


No hard feelings, I am just sharing my bitter experience, hope you've 
understood what I mean


-Hasin Hayder

2008/5/10 Angel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:

Hello all,
This is an invitation from Fedora Bangladesh group. There has a
mailing list for Fedora Bangladesh user, contributor and fan. Yes,
I know here all are Ubuntu user. But main fact is, we all are
Linux user. So please, subscribe to Fedora-bangladesh-list
<https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-bangladesh-list>.
Here is the address,
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-bangladesh-list.
Thank you all.


সবাইকে স্বাগতম,
এটি ফেডোরা বাংলাদেশ গ্রুপের পক্ষ থেকে উন্মুক্ত-আহ্বান। বাংলাদেশী ফেডোরা
ব্যবহারকারী, স্বেচ্ছাসেবক ও অনুরাগীদের জন্য আমাদের একটি সুনির্দিষ্ট মেইলিং
লিস্ট রয়েছে। হতে পারে বেশিরভাগ লিনাক্স অনুরাগীই আমাদের মাঝে উবুন্টু
ব্যবহার করেন, কিন্তু সবাই উবুন্টু ব্যবহার করেন না। উবুন্টুর পাশাপাশিও তারা
ফেডোরার মতো অন্যান্য লিনাক্স ডিস্ট্রো ব্যবহার করেন। তাই আমাদের আসল
উদ্দেশ্য কিন্তু কোন নির্দিষ্ট ডিস্ট্রোর অনুরাগী আকৃষ্ট করা নয় বরং সকল 
লিনাক্স
ব্যবহারকারীদের আগ্রহী করে তোলা।
তাই আসুন আমরা সবাই অংশগ্রহন করি Fedora-bangladesh-list
<https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-bangladesh-list>
টিতে। অংশগ্রহন করতে যান
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-bangladesh-list

সবাইকে শুভেচ্ছা রইলো আশা করি আপনাদের ফেডোরা মেইলিং লিস্টে দেখতে পাবো।

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Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] Fedora-bangladesh-list

Why I need your support Sir, I don't even know your name. We don't like 
to talk with a ghost.


Any ways, the way we get Ubuntu support, we don't get about Fedora and 
finally we have to go for paid support.


Omi

Angel wrote:
Tell me details here your "bitter experience". May be I can help you 
out. And I have your answer. If I failed, then whole Fedora community 
is there.


On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Hasin Hayder 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:



I am not stereotyping Fedora, but seriously I dont see there is
any necessity of this distro anymore :)

Debian and Mandriva (former mandrake) are much more matured than
this one, even you can conside Suse too - I just cant explain how
many sleepless nights I have spent and how many times my attempts
failed to migrate to Linux just for Fedora. No one ever guided me
that there was a distro called Debian when I was really fucked up
by dependency panic of YUM and I failed to use fedora as a
replacement of Windows.

I am repeating again and I am not totally against Fedora, but I
find it's useless

No hard feelings, I am just sharing my bitter experience, hope
you've understood what I mean

-Hasin Hayder

2008/5/10 Angel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:

Hello all,
This is an invitation from Fedora Bangladesh group. There has
a mailing list for Fedora Bangladesh user, contributor and
fan. Yes, I know here all are Ubuntu user. But main fact is,
we all are Linux user. So please, subscribe to
Fedora-bangladesh-list
<https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-bangladesh-list>.
Here is the address,
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-bangladesh-list.
Thank you all.


সবাইকে স্বাগতম,
এটি ফেডোরা বাংলাদেশ গ্রুপের পক্ষ থেকে উন্মুক্ত-আহ্বান। বাংলাদেশী
ফেডোরা ব্যবহারকারী, স্বেচ্ছাসেবক ও অনুরাগীদের জন্য আমাদের একটি
সুনির্দিষ্ট মেইলিং লিস্ট রয়েছে। হতে পারে বেশিরভাগ লিনাক্স অনুরাগীই
আমাদের মাঝে উবুন্টু ব্যবহার করেন, কিন্তু সবাই উবুন্টু ব্যবহার করেন না।
উবুন্টুর পাশাপাশিও তারা ফেডোরার মতো অন্যান্য লিনাক্স ডিস্ট্রো ব্যবহার
করেন। তাই আমাদের আসল উদ্দেশ্য কিন্তু কোন নির্দিষ্ট ডিস্ট্রোর অনুরাগী
আকৃষ্ট করা নয় বরং সকল লিনাক্স ব্যবহারকারীদের আগ্রহী করে তোলা।
তাই আসুন আমরা সবাই অংশগ্রহন করি Fedora-bangladesh-list
<https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-bangladesh-list>
টিতে। অংশগ্রহন করতে যান
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-bangladesh-list

সবাইকে শুভেচ্ছা রইলো আশা করি আপনাদের ফেডোরা মেইলিং লিস্টে দেখতে পাবো।

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Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] How to read Bangla?

When I wrote the mail " এই সাইট এর সমস্ত তথ্যাদি ও ছবি সমূহ ক্রিয়েটিভ কমনস্‌ 
লাইসেন্স <http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/> দ্বারা 
লাইসেন্সকৃত। হোস্টিং স্পন্সর করেছে কম্পিউরিয়াস <http://www.compurius.com>।" 
appeared ?, now it looks okey. May be that time 
front end and database connection problem.

Shahriar Tariq wrote:

On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Omi Azad <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

raihan hasnain wrote:
> Which operating system are you using?
>
> As it is a ubuntu mailing list, considering you are using ubuntu
> so check this out
>

http://www.ubuntu-bd.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=32

<http://www.ubuntu-bd.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=32>
>

Why the bottom of the page is ?

Fix that please

Omi

অমি ভাই আমি তো কিছু দেখছিনা। কোথায়??

একটু বিস্তারিত বলেন যাতে ঠিক করতে পারি।

Thanking you
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Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] Fedora-bangladesh-list

Hello There,
I'm taking this conversation at the end but I must say some words. So
sorry for not keeping Russell Bhai's request for the time being.

We like oils and don't like to be straight. You did not ask for any help
here and I neither pulled your leg nor discouraged you. May be I pulled
your leg on some other place and that is why you are hiding your name.

I appreciate your initiative but alas you took a wrong side this time :)
. I wanted to use Linux and the first version was Red Hat 4, which I got
free with some Indian IT mag. That time my brother (was a CSE student)
and his friends tried to use it and after 9 days of trying they
successfully brought the Kernel Desktop Environment on.

It's still that painful. Let me give you a small example and then you
might understand why we should forget about all the other Linux
distribution and start using Ubuntu. Here in Ubuntu I wrote "apt-get
install skype" from my Gnome's shell and it installed Skype and all it's
KDE dependencies (as Skype is a QT application). Now when I tried to
install Skype through YUM, it says this not found that not found (for
example libqt3c102-mt not found, libqt3c102 not found) so why should I
keep trying and trying and trying?

Can you change the system? No you are not. I did not attack you, I just
wanted to tell you Red Hat's ultimate goal is to make money, so they
will not change anything, our options are not closed yet. We have BOSS
distributions like Debian and Ubuntu, so why bother to keep trying
Fedora. :)

Hope you get the message. If you want to stick with Fedora, you are
absolutely welcome. None of us here have any problem. What I mentioned
above is only my personal opinion and not a part of any survey. But I
feel that is the major reason people don't like to use that OS as a
primary daily life computing OS.

One more thing, we really feel disturbed when we spend huge time on
finding solution and make the solution to public. Make that as simple as
my kid can understand. But people don't go through the solution and ask
nonsense questions. I honestly feel disturbed then.

Thanks for the understanding
Omi

Angel wrote:
অমি ভাই আমার শ্রদ্ধা নিবেন। আপনার নাম আমি অনেক শুনেছি। অনলাইনে কম্পিউটারে
বাংলা নিয়ে আপনার যা কাজ তার তুলনায় আমি একজন প্রেতাত্মাই মনে হবো।

তবে আপনি নিশ্চিত থাকুন আমি কোন প্রেতাত্মা নই, আমি ফেডোরা ভালোবাসি তাই
ফেডোরা নিয়ে কিছু কাজ করতে চাই। ঠিক যেমন আপনি বাংলা নিয়ে কাজ করতে ভালোবাসেন।

না আমি ফেডোরা নিয়ে কাজ করি কোন টাকা পাবার আশায় নয়। আমি যদি সাহায্য করি
কাউকে তাহলে তা হবে কাউকে সাহায্য করার আনন্দ পাবার জন্য। আপনারা বললেন
সমস্যার সম্মুক্ষীন হয়েছেন। তাই জানার আগ্রহ হলো কি সমস্যার সম্মুক্ষীন হয়েছেন,
আমি কোন সাহায্যে আসতে পারি কিনা।

আশা করি আমার অবস্থান পরিস্কার হয়েছে।

আর অমি ভাই একটা কথা বলি কিছু মনে করবেন না আশা করি। আপনারা অভিজ্ঞ লোক,
নতুনরা কেউ কখনও কিছু সাহায্য করতে আসলে আপনাদের প্রতিক্রিয়া কি সবসময় এমন
থাকে?? তাহলে তো আমাদের দেশে নতুনরা কাজ করতে আগ্রহী হবে না, দেশ আরও
কয়েকযুগ অন্য দেশগুলোর চেয়ে পিছিয়ে থাকবে। আমি হয়তো কিছু মনে করিনি, কিন্তু আশা
করি ভবিষ্যতে এভাবে কাউকে কিছু বলার আগে ভেবে নিবেন তার খারাপ লাগতে পারে কিনা।

On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Omi Azad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

Why I need your support Sir, I don't even know your name. We don't
like to talk with a ghost.

Any ways, the way we get Ubuntu support, we don't get about Fedora
and finally we have to go for paid support.

Omi

Angel wrote:

Tell me details here your "bitter experience". May be I can help
you out. And I have your answer. If I failed, then whole Fedora
community is there.

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Hasin Hayder
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

I am not stereotyping Fedora, but seriously I dont see there
is any necessity of this distro anymore :)

Debian and Mandriva (former mandrake) are much more matured
than this one, even you can conside Suse too - I just cant
explain how many sleepless nights I have spent and how many
times my attempts failed to migrate to Linux just for Fedora.
No one ever guided me that there was a distro called Debian
when I was really fucked up by dependency panic of YUM and I
failed to use fedora as a replacement of Windows.

I am repeating again and I am not totally against Fedora, but
I find it's useless

No hard feelings, I am just sharing my bitter experience,
hope you've understood what I mean

-Hasin Hayder

2008/5/10 Angel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:

Hello all,
This is an invitation from Fedora Bangladesh group. There
has a mailing list for Fedora Bangladesh user,
contributor and fan. Yes, I

Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] ফেডোরা এবং উবুন্টু সম্পর্ক ে


Hello Susanta,
Please search my blog http://omi.net.bd for your solution.

Omi



Susanta Barman wrote:

শুভ সকাল,
সকলে ভাল আছেন তো? ফেডোরা এবং উবুন্টু নিয়ে সরস আলোচনা পড়লাম। আমার মন্তব্য হল 
আমরা আসলে ওপেন সোর্স ওএস এর পক্ষে। আমি ব্যক্তিগতভাবে কোনটাকেই এখনও নিজের 
কাজের উপযোগী করে নিতে পারিনি। অথচ আমিও কি কম চেষ্টা করেছি? অবশ্য আমি 
প্রোগ্রামিং জানিনা।

আমি যে ডিসট্রোগুলো নিয়ে চেষ্টা করেছি তার কয়েকটির নাম হল-
red hat, much boot, pcbxd, voicebuntu, slax, k linux, 7 linux,  suse, 
puppy,  4 bak, feather, luit, mandriva, ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, 
dream ইত্যাদি ইত্যাদি। http://www.distromania.com/ এই ঠিকানায় গিয়ে যে 
কয়রকম পেরেছি, ইনফো পড়ে ভাল লেগেছে সবগুলোই ডাউনলোড করে ইনস্টল করেছি। এক 
একটার বৈশিষ্ট্য এক এক রকম। এই বৈশিষ্ট্যের বৈচিত্র্যের কারণে আমার কাছে লিনাক্স 
ভাল লাগে। শুধুমাত্র এই কারণেই আমি সবাইকে লিনাক্স ব্যবহার করতে উৎসাহিত করি। 
আমি বাংলার শিক্ষক হলেও ক্লাশে লিনাক্স নিয়ে ছাত্রদের মধ্যে আগ্রহ বাড়ানোর 
চেষ্টা করি। কিন্তু আমি নিজেই লিনাক্স ব্যবহার করতে পারছি না।

বাংলা ইউনিজয় নেই, এবং এজ মডেম ইনস্টল করতে পারিনি।
কুড়িগ্রামের আমার কয়েকজন কলিগকে লিনাক্স এর প্রয়োজনীয়তা বোঝাতে পেরেছি। তারাও 
পাইরেটেড উইন্ডোজ ব্যবহার করতে নীতিগতভাবে সম্মত নয়। কিন্তু তাদেরকে আমি 
বাংলার কোন সমাধান দিতে পারিনি।
ছাত্ররা লিনাক্স এনভায়রনমেন্টে তাদের মোবাইলে কিভাবে রিং টোন বা গান ডাউনলোড 
করবে তা বলতে পারিনি।
আমাকে বাধ্য হয়ে উইন্ডোজ ব্যবহার করতে হয়। কিন্তু আমি যে ডিসট্রোতে আমার 
সুবিধাগুলো পাব আমি সেই লিনাক্স ব্যবহার করতে মুহূর্তমাত্র দেরি করব না। সেটা 
উবুন্টু হোক আর ফেডোরা যাই হোক না কেন।
মনে রাখতে হবে, আমরা বাঙালিরা কেউ কোন লিনাক্স  মডারেট বা তৈরি করিনি 
(ভাষাটা কি ঠিক হল? শ্রাবন্তীর কথা বলছিনা, এটাও আমার চাহিদা পূরণ করতে সক্ষম 
হয়নি)। তাই কোন একটির পক্ষপাত এই মুহূর্তে আমার দ্বারা সম্ভব নয়।
আমি প্রিয় অমি ও প্রিয় এ্যানজেল দুজনকেই বলছি। বিতর্ক না করে আমার সমস্যার 
সমাধান দিন। দেখি না কে আমার সমস্যাগুলোর সমাধান করতে পারে। কে আমাকে পক্ষে 
টানতে পারে?

আমার সমস্যা মাত্র দুটো- ১, বাংলা ইউনিজয়, ২ এজ মডেম ইনস্টল

ধন্যবাদ সকলকে

On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Omi Azad <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:


Hello There,
I'm taking this conversation at the end but I must say some words.
So sorry for not keeping Russell Bhai's request for the time being.

We like oils and don't like to be straight. You did not ask for
any help here and I neither pulled your leg nor discouraged you.
May be I pulled your leg on some other place and that is why you
are hiding your name.

I appreciate your initiative but alas you took a wrong side this
time :) . I wanted to use Linux and the first version was Red Hat
4, which I got free with some Indian IT mag. That time my brother
(was a CSE student) and his friends tried to use it and after 9
days of trying they successfully brought the Kernel Desktop
Environment on.

It's still that painful. Let me give you a small example and then
you might understand why we should forget about all the other
Linux distribution and start using Ubuntu. Here in Ubuntu I wrote
"apt-get install skype" from my Gnome's shell and it installed
Skype and all it's KDE dependencies (as Skype is a QT
application). Now when I tried to install Skype through YUM, it
says this not found that not found (for example libqt3c102-mt not
found, libqt3c102 not found) so why should I keep trying and
trying and trying?

Can you change the system? No you are not. I did not attack you, I
just wanted to tell you Red Hat's ultimate goal is to make money,
so they will not change anything, our options are not closed yet.
We have BOSS distributions like Debian and Ubuntu, so why bother
to keep trying Fedora. :)

Hope you get the message. If you want to stick with Fedora, you
are absolutely welcome. None of us here have any problem. What I
mentioned above is only my personal opinion and not a part of any
survey. But I feel that is the major reason people don't like to
use that OS as a primary daily life computing OS.

One more thing, we really feel disturbed when we spend huge time
on finding solution and make the solution to public. Make that as
simple as my kid can understand. But people don't go through the
solution and ask nonsense questions. I honestly feel disturbed then.

Thanks for the understanding
Omi

 


Angel wrote:

অমি ভাই আমার শ্রদ্ধা নিবেন। আপনার নাম আমি অনেক শুনেছি। অনলাইনে
কম্পিউটারে বাংলা নিয়ে আপনার যা কাজ তার তুলনায় আমি একজন প্রেতাত্মাই
মনে হবো। 


তবে আপনি নিশ্চিত থাকুন আমি কোন প্রেতাত্মা নই, আমি ফেডোরা ভালোবাসি তাই
ফেডোরা নিয়ে কিছু কাজ করতে চাই। ঠিক যেমন আপনি বাংলা নিয়ে কাজ করতে
ভালোবাসেন।

না আমি ফেডোরা নিয়ে কাজ করি কোন টাকা পাবার আশায় নয়। আমি যদি সাহায্য
করি কাউকে তাহলে তা হবে কাউকে সাহায্য করার আনন্দ পাবার জন্য। আপনারা
বললেন সমস্যার সম্মুক্ষীন হয়েছেন। তাই জানার আগ্রহ হলো কি সমস্যার সম্মুক্ষীন
হয়েছেন, আমি কোন সাহায্যে আসতে পারি কিনা।

Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] Fedora-bangladesh-list

2008-05-11 Thread Omi Azad


Well Said Tarin,
Thanks

:)

Omi

Tarin Mahmood wrote:
I guess Omi bhai was putting an end to the Fedora Vs. Ubuntu debate, 
but I'll add something that I think everyone missing.


I'll clear my position here first, I love Linux, I love the freedom in 
it. Currently I use Ubuntu cause I've became used to it. I've also 
used Redhat , Fedora 1-8 and I know my ins and out of both of the distros.


Now I should point out some information
Canonical (Ubuntu's Sponsor) also provides paid supports 
<http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid> and if you don't want to pay you 
go to the community, Its all the same with Redhat, if you want 
dedicated support you go for paid service if not then go to the 
Community. Yes Fedora also have a good community.
But at the end the paid service is mostly useful for Large 
corporations and companies.

Don't forget, every corporation is in it for money.

I am not stereotyping Fedora, but seriously I dont see there is
any necessity of this distro anymore :)

Debian and Mandriva (former mandrake) are much more matured than
this one, even you can conside Suse too -

I had to point out this comment, cause I think I have to.
You are getting it all wrong. Linux is all about community and working 
together. Red-hat implements something Ubuntu adopts it and Vise 
versa. Without this community work Linux wouldn't have came this far. 
So every one is important. So for the sake of Linux, Fedora should 
exists, so should Ubuntu and other thousands of distros, cause anyone 
contribute anything in the end it that helps each and every one of us.


because it didn't worked for you, doesn't meant it will not work for 
others, it works. Thousands of servers runs on Fedora/Redhat. Fedora 
have a big user base. Where I work, the server is a Fedora 8 server 
and it works, its damn solid.


Fedora is more matured then most of the distros you mentioned except 
Debian.


I like redhat because, Red hat have been giving us their OS for free 
for a Long long time and mind it their contribution to Linux is 
undeniable and huge. And They still have a big part in Linux's 
development and they will have for a long time to come.
Mandriva and Suse are corporate maggots from whome I think I would 
stay away, I don't remember Mandriva ever contribute something 
mentionable to the OSS and while Suse contribution is awesome (Compiz, 
silverlight etc.) they are sold to MS.


I agree yum sucks, but its a new system (w/r to apt) so it needs time. 
As far I remember their developers are working for an unified 
repository, once its completed, most of the dependency problems will 
be solved. I've used Fedora 8 and I have to say it was solid. Only 
problem was the package manager. but the improvement between Yum(f7) 
and yum(f8) was very impressive. and in fedora 9 they are reworking 
the GUI too which looks nicer then the 7/8 's package manager.


Its not very reasonable to say one distro sucks or another distro is 
boss. cause in the core all are the same, They are all built a top of 
Linux kernel, they are all the same to me


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Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] How to read Bangla?

2008-05-12 Thread Omi Azad

May be the developer hacked the theme and the character encoding doesn't 
load when the site loads for the first time. It happens with Joomla 
sometimes. But if you apply the character encoding properly, it doesn't 
happen.


Omi

Nasimul Haque wrote:

It happens all the time for me. When I visit the site first time, it
shows these garbages. And refreshing the page shows the correct
information. It also happens in the header (upper part) of the site.
This is really strange.

Nasim

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 8:37 PM, Omi Azad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

 When I wrote the mail " এই সাইট এর সমস্ত তথ্যাদি ও ছবি সমূহ ক্রিয়েটিভ
কমনস্‌ লাইসেন্স দ্বারা লাইসেন্সকৃত। হোস্টিং স্পন্সর করেছে কম্পিউরিয়াস।"
appeared ?, now it looks okey. May be that time front
end and database connection problem.





 Shahriar Tariq wrote:



On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Omi Azad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




raihan hasnain wrote:
  

Which operating system are you using?

As it is a ubuntu mailing list, considering you are using ubuntu
so check this out



http://www.ubuntu-bd.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=32


Why the bottom of the page is ?????

Fix that please

Omi


  

অমি ভাই আমি তো কিছু দেখছিনা। কোথায়??

 একটু বিস্তারিত বলেন যাতে ঠিক করতে পারি।

 Thanking you
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Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] Hardy Release Party events page on Facebook

2008-05-12 Thread Omi Azad

এখনো লাগেন নাই :(

Shahriar Tariq wrote:
> আসেন লেগে পরি।
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Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] Anti Ubuntu-BD propaganda

2008-05-13 Thread Omi Azad

No,
I vote for not sharing the mails. If anyone gets any mail, send that to 
the admin. That's it...

Omi

dark lord wrote:
> Me to...
>
> Atlist send those mail to them privately who is curious to read such mail.
> Including me;)
>
>
>
> On 5/13/08, Nasimul Haque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Wow! I am very much curious to read such mail. :P Please share some!
>>
>> Nasim
>> 
>
>   

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[ Ubuntu-BD ] Gates offers free software in Asia

2008-05-13 Thread Omi Azad

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/05/09/gates-offers-free-software-asia

Gates offers free software in Asia

Pulls Intel trump card for digital have-nots

By Mark Ballard: Friday, 09 May 2008, 5:31 PM

BILL GATES HAS OFFERED free software for a million PCs the Indonesian
government is trying to acquire for students, according to the Jakarta
Post today.

Gates met Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, president of Indonesia, the
world's fourth most populous country, yesterday to talk about how the
country was also the fourth amongst 'piracy offenders' in Asia. He was
also there to renew Microsoft's 2006 deal to supply software to the
government and to add another University to its growing international
network of proprietary training centres.

The newspaper reported that Gates promised free software, "if
Indonesia could make a deal with Intel chairman Craig Barrett, who
will meet Yudhoyono in Jakarta next week".

The government was trying to buy a million PCs for under $200 each to
get more computers in education. Indonesia had one PC for every 1,000
students. It aimed to have one for every 20. So the deal might not
quite bridge the digital divide, but at least it throws a rope near
the far bank.

Microsoft's push into Indonesia and other Less Smug Countries (LSCs)
pitches US industrial might against European guerrilla software
innovation.

USAID, the US federal overseas development fund, supports a tech
innovation competition run by Microsoft in Indonesia that attracted
100 proposals last year.

The software giant has also since 2006 established a network of 110
Microsoft Innovation Centres in 60 countries, the last of which it
launched in Jakarta yesterday, which provide training and encourage
firms and students to use Microsoft software. It now has five such
centres in Indonesia.

The Europeans on the other hand have given €0.7m to the Flossinclude
programme to encourage homegrown opensource development in Asia, India
and South America.

Rishab Ghosh, an opensource guru at Maastricht University who helps
run Flossinclude, said that Microsoft was being forced to take the
"drug-pusher strategy" to Asian markets because of competition from
government-supported open source initiatives.

"They give free software to governments, but they are not going to
keep it free forever. They'll start charging, and then they make it
difficult for you to migrate because of their proprietary standards.
That's the classic lock-in strategy of the monopoly," said Ghosh, "In
the long-run, you have to pay the company that you are dependent on."

After his meeting with Gates, Indonesia's President Susilo Bambang
Yudhoyono, gave a heart-swelling speech about how IT could "fight
poverty", "raise the dignity of man", and ensure no less than the
"survival of the human race".

"We must promote technology that will reinforce, not lose, our common
humanity," he said.

This was once the philosophy that led One Laptop Per Child (OLPC), a
scheme to get cheap laptops the into the hands of African school
children, to choose the open source Linux operating system for its
machines. Open source software was supposed to spawn a network of
do-it-yourself software engineers and local repair shops across LSCs,
instead of spods trained to fill the corporate coffers of a US
multinational. But OLPC has since said it might drop Linux for
Microsoft's Windows. Sales of Linux laptops weren't going too well,
the Wintel giants were charming LSC governments with a competing model
of cheap laptop, and people were pirating Microsoft software anyway.

Gates, renowned for his tycoon philanthropism, used his trip Indonesia
to promote his vision of Microsoft as the means by which impoverished
peoples will raise themselves up on the crutches of knowledge and
modernity.

Microsoft's pitch is also identical to OLPC's once egalitarian call to
action. Microsoft's proprietary training centres would be a
"sparkplug...empowering citizens with IT skills and nurturing strong,
local software economies".

Giving free software to LSCs would also help Microsoft solve the
piracy problem in Indonesia. It merely repackages Microsoft's old
policy to piracy in LSCs, which was to let it ride because it got
people locked into its software. Gates may as well gift sand to the
Arabs.






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[ Ubuntu-BD ] {Off Topic} Funny

2008-05-13 Thread Omi Azad


Angel wrote:

/P.S. 5 hours ago, F9 released,/

5 Hours!!!
Come on man. F9 is on my keyboard since I learned this is called a 
computer keyboard which sends instruction to the CPU.


Are you okey?

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Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] Clueless

2008-05-15 Thread Omi Azad


ঐ শালাকে উবুন্টু ফোরামের লিঙ্ক দিছে কে?

হাঃ হাঃ হাঃ হাঃ

উফ্

Nasimul Haque wrote:

উবুন্তু ফোরামের এই টপিকটা পড়ে বেশ মজা পেলাম। এটা ব্যাখ্যা করার মত ভাষা
আমার নাই। তাই কেউ যদি মজাটা বুঝতে না পারেন, তবে দুঃখিত।

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4178264

   


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Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] Phonetics Bangla keyboard?

People are not clear about the definition of phonetic.

Ashfaqur Rahman wrote:

Is probhat not a phonetic ???

Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 03:43:03 +0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ubuntu-bd@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: [ Ubuntu-BD ] Phonetics Bangla keyboard?

Is there any phonetics Bangla keyboard for Ubuntu?
I have followed this tutorial

http://www.ubuntu-bd.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=32

<http://www.ubuntu-bd.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=48&Itemid=32>
and enabled Probhat keyboard.

Some guy told me that there is a phonetics layout for Probhat. Is
that true? If yes then where can I find it, and how to install it?

Help please.

Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live 
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Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] 3gp converter

But one thing you have to admit brothers. Due to your love to 
commandline, Linux has fewer users than Windows.


Face the truth.



raihan hasnain wrote:
Well, actually who needs this converter will happily embrace Windoze 
again if I tell him that he needs to use terminal for goddamn "video 
conversion".


Yes, Tarin is right. Command line is super-scary for those who never 
has seen it!



Two practical jokes.

My most favorite teacher and idol (I am not going to mention his name) 
uses Macbook. He never touches Finder (the WM of OSX). He does 
literally everything by terminal. Those who don't know - in finder you 
cannot enter a folder by pressing "Enter" key, you have to press 
Command + O. Enter is for "Renaming file/folder" instead. I asked him 
that Sir, is there any way of change this thing. He was like "UH, 
What? I never tried to use the GUI. Let's see ..."!


A friend of mine asked me how to get rid of the viruses. I informed 
her that she can always move to Ubuntu unless you are a big fan of MS 
Office, WLM and Yahoo Messenger. I also informed her that Ubuntu comes 
with good alternatives of the I mentioned before. She replied, "Sorry, 
me and my brothers only use this three things".



On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Tarin Mahmood 
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^ Yeah, Flame war! :D

Command line sux for those who don't know how to use it :|

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Omi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

Commandline Sux



On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Angel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

Yes, ffmpeg from Medibuntu <http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/>
repository, it´s good. I used it in 7.10. Actually it´s a
command line tool.

[code]

ffmpeg -i videodump.avi -b bitrate -ac audiochannels -ab
audiobitrate videoout.3gp

[/code]


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Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] 3gp converter


Avidemux Rocks!

:)

Nasimul Haque wrote:

sudo apt-get install avidemux

Video editor and converter!!! All GUI, enjoy!

Ooops, I just used CLI. :P

Nasim

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Omi Azad<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
   

But one thing you have to admit brothers. Due to your love to commandline,
Linux has fewer users than Windows.

Face the truth.



raihan hasnain wrote:

Well, actually who needs this converter will happily embrace Windoze again
if I tell him that he needs to use terminal for goddamn "video conversion".

Yes, Tarin is right. Command line is super-scary for those who never has
seen it!


Two practical jokes.

My most favorite teacher and idol (I am not going to mention his name) uses
Macbook. He never touches Finder (the WM of OSX). He does literally
everything by terminal. Those who don't know - in finder you cannot enter a
folder by pressing "Enter" key, you have to press Command + O. Enter is for
"Renaming file/folder" instead. I asked him that Sir, is there any way of
change this thing. He was like "UH, What? I never tried to use the GUI.
Let's see ..."!

A friend of mine asked me how to get rid of the viruses. I informed her that
she can always move to Ubuntu unless you are a big fan of MS Office, WLM and
Yahoo Messenger. I also informed her that Ubuntu comes with good
alternatives of the I mentioned before. She replied, "Sorry, me and my
brothers only use this three things".


On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Tarin Mahmood<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
 

^ Yeah, Flame war! :D

Command line sux for those who don't know how to use it :|

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Omi<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
   

Commandline Sux



On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Angel<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
 

Yes, ffmpeg from Medibuntu repository, it´s good. I used it in 7.10.
Actually it´s a command line tool.

[code]

ffmpeg -i videodump.avi -b bitrate -ac audiochannels -ab audiobitrate
videoout.3gp

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Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] 3gp converter

This is why I want to request all *experts* not to give terminal 
solutions. If I ask you for a help and you give me terminal solution, 
may be I piss on Linux and go back to Windows. I'm talking practical 
here, don't take anything personally.


We discussed the same on the reliese party and no one could give a 
proper answer.


So please no terminal. Everyone is not like the *experts*

Thanks for the understanding.

Angel wrote:
Yes. But I think, now it´s not impossible to use Linux, without 
touching Terminal. My brother (cousine), my father and sister use 
Fedora. They never use Terminal at all. They don´t even know, what is 
this.


I think, many of you, know about this site ¨How To Forge 
<http://www.howtoforge.com/>¨. This site provides user friendly Linux 
tutorial, maximum are


On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Omi Azad <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:


But one thing you have to admit brothers. Due to your love to
commandline, Linux has fewer users than Windows.

Face the truth.




raihan hasnain wrote:

Well, actually who needs this converter will happily embrace
Windoze again if I tell him that he needs to use terminal for
goddamn "video conversion".

Yes, Tarin is right. Command line is super-scary for those who
never has seen it!


Two practical jokes.

My most favorite teacher and idol (I am not going to mention his
name) uses Macbook. He never touches Finder (the WM of OSX). He
does literally everything by terminal. Those who don't know - in
finder you cannot enter a folder by pressing "Enter" key, you
have to press Command + O. Enter is for "Renaming file/folder"
instead. I asked him that Sir, is there any way of change this
thing. He was like "UH, What? I never tried to use the GUI. Let's
see ..."!

A friend of mine asked me how to get rid of the viruses. I
informed her that she can always move to Ubuntu unless you are a
big fan of MS Office, WLM and Yahoo Messenger. I also informed
her that Ubuntu comes with good alternatives of the I mentioned
before. She replied, "Sorry, me and my brothers only use this
three things".


On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Tarin Mahmood
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

^ Yeah, Flame war! :D

Command line sux for those who don't know how to use it :|

On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Omi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

Commandline Sux



On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Angel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
wrote:

Yes, ffmpeg from Medibuntu
<http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/> repository, it´s
good. I used it in 7.10. Actually it´s a command line
tool.

[code]

ffmpeg -i videodump.avi -b bitrate -ac audiochannels
-ab audiobitrate videoout.3gp

[/code]


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Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] Public/Real IP via VPN connection


Did not get your point though. I need one. Can you make one for me?

Omi

Ahmed Rafiq wrote:

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   Please write down who needs real IPs via VPN
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Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] Piracy bangladesh

কিন্তু আমরা সফটওয়্যারে রিভার্স ইঞ্জিনায়ারিং করি না। করতে পারিও না। আমরা 
পাইরেটেড ভার্সন পাই দেখে ব্যবহার করি। এটা যারা করে তাদের থামালেই পারে।


Raihan Hasnain wrote:

আমি আজকেই আরেকটা আর্টিকেল
পড়লাম, যেটা বলছে যে বিশ্বে
বাংলাদেশ ২য় আর এশিয়াতে ১ম!
বাংলাদেশ অচিরেই বিশ্বে ১ম
হবে এই আশা রাখি।  *কি আনন্দ*

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...nt_7026052.htm

On May 23, 2008, at 4:15 PM, DarkLord (:=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:

   

আজকে ইত্তেফাকে একটা
আরটিকেল দেখলাম শিরোনাম
"সফটওয়্যার পাইরেসীতে
শীর্ষে
বাংলাদেশ"

যেখানে দেখানো হয়েছে পিসি
সফটওয়্যার পাইরেসি রেংকিং
2007 এ বাংলাদেশ দ্বিতীয়
অবস্থানে আছে ৯২% আর
আর্মেনিয়া প্রথম মাত্র
একশতাংশ বেশী ৯৩%

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Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] Fade up from UBUNTU

Hello Ashiqur (I don't know why you don't use this name, don't you like 
it?),
Yes some days ago you pretend yourself as a ambassador of Fedora on this 
list.

I didn't want to get into the distro fight, but something I noticed 
before which I want to mention here. You did some advocacy of loving 
distro Fedora and some days back you started fighting with a guy saying 
Fedora and Red Hat are not same (Guys! please stop laughing, he is 
very new in this linux world and don't have any knowledge on anything). 
Come on, when you do some advocacy, you need at least some knowledge. 
When we say something against Fedora, we have at least some knowledge on 
that.

Now about Hasin and your fights. I think you did a mistake by sending a 
mail criticizing the list and you *have to* apologize for that. We don't 
have any intension of stopping you from doing advocacy of Fedora, if we 
had then you would be banned from this list by now. You are a kid and 
you still have lot more to learn and we have no problem to give you a 
good guide.

So say sorry and stop the war before the situation take a wrong turn.

Hope you get the point.
Omi

PS:
[quote]
Who told you, I am an Ambassador of Fedora? Did I ever tell you?
[/quote]

What is page is showing my brother: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AshiqurRahman

Why you circulate the link with you signature under your fake name?

Angel wrote:

I was waiting for the reply.
Head over the Ubuntu Mailing List <https://lists.ubuntu.com/>, 
subscribe there. You will get hundreds of post there, where people is 
talking about Ubuntu with other distros as well as Fedora. Please, 
check there and learn how to behave with others and improve your 
manner. I am new here. I did mistake. May be a big one. So, you have 
to behave like this? Show some respect other, doesn't matter, how old 
they are. Who told you, I am an Ambassador of Fedora? Did I ever tell 
you? And whenever you are getting chance, pinching! Stop behaving like 
a kid. Yes, you are elder enough then me, but If you have minimal self 
respect (or respect for your OS), please, try to respect other first, 
either other will not respect you.

I hope you've understood what I mean. I don't wanna arguing here, I 
know, from now, many of you start yelling at me. But okey. I told, 
what I wanted to tell. I am done here.

*When I heard you in the party, I had respect, I still have. But 
please don't ruin it (if you really care (as I am really confused 
now)). So my request, please be cool and read youself again, your last 
reply.

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Hasin Hayder <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

Dear Angel

>Sorry, sorry. My mistake again, it's Ubuntu Mailing List.
>:(

When you mock like this, it wont uplift your image as well as the
image of fedora when we see that the fedora community has assigned
someone like you as ambassador. If you have minimal self respect
(or respect for your OS) you should better stop mocking and acting
silly like that.

Dont make yourself funny, Ok? Dont you have your "DEDICATED"
fedora Mailing list?

I hope you've understood what I mean.

-hasin

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Angel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

Sorry, sorry. My mistake again, it's Ubuntu Mailing List.
:(

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Angel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

Download a Live Fedora Cd from
http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora.html . Boot your PC
from it. If you have internet connection, go to Terminal,
and type yum install thunderbird . You are done. If you
want to do this using GUI, then from Main menu, click
Package Management, and search for Thunderbird. If you
like the system, install it on your Pc. Any further help,
ask here,
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-bangladesh-list
.

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:14 PM, SYMON SYMON
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

pls suggest one

--- Angel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

> Why don't you try some other *nix disrtos?
> :P
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:02 PM, SYMON SYMON
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> > Dear Hasin,
> > I really apretiate your concern, but for me I
> think
> > sending a simple mail o

[ Ubuntu-BD ] Booting from Ubuntu DVD [Was: Fade up from UBUNTU]

Rahim,
That DVD won't allow you to install Ubuntu on Windows as we told on the 
party. We ware wrong. That facility is only given on the CD version.

If you want to install Ubuntu from that DVD, you have to boot your 
computer from the DVD.

Hope it helps
Omi



Abdur Rahim Khandker wrote:
> @Hasin
>
> But please!  The fact remains that I couldn't even install Ubuntu from
> the DVD I got from the Hardy Heron Party. It shows the first page
> which says to chose and reboot. After reboot the original desktop is
> back! I checked my DVD drive with another DVD and it works alright. My
> PC's configuration:
>
> Pentium IV  2.26 GHz  ! MB RAM
> Present OS: Windows XP
> Free Space in C: drive   7.47 GB
>
> Can you please help?
>
> Abdur Rahim
>
> On 5/23/08, samir<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>
>> I too think that wasn't really an appropriate way to say against Angel, a
>> polite approach was highly expected...
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Angel<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> I was waiting for the reply.
>>> Head over the Ubuntu Mailing List<https://lists.ubuntu.com/>, subscribe
>>> there. You will get hundreds of post there, where people is talking about
>>> Ubuntu with other distros as well as Fedora. Please, check there and learn
>>> how to behave with others and improve your manner. I am new here. I did
>>> mistake. May be a big one. So, you have to behave like this? Show some
>>> respect other, doesn't matter, how old they are. Who told you, I am an
>>> Ambassador of Fedora? Did I ever tell you? And whenever you are getting
>>> chance, pinching! Stop behaving like a kid. Yes, you are elder enough then
>>> me, but If you have minimal self respect (or respect for your OS), please,
>>> try to respect other first, either other will not respect you.
>>>
>>> I hope you've understood what I mean. I don't wanna arguing here, I know,
>>> from now, many of you start yelling at me. But okey. I told, what I wanted
>>> to tell. I am done here.
>>>
>>> *When I heard you in the party, I had respect, I still have. But please
>>> don't ruin it (if you really care (as I am really confused now)). So my
>>> request, please be cool and read youself again, your last reply.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Hasin Hayder<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dear Angel
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>> Sorry, sorry. My mistake again, it's Ubuntu Mailing List.
>>>>> :(
>>>>>
>>>> When you mock like this, it wont uplift your image as well as the image
>>>> of
>>>> fedora when we see that the fedora community has assigned someone like
>>>> you
>>>> as ambassador. If you have minimal self respect (or respect for your OS)
>>>> you
>>>> should better stop mocking and acting silly like that.
>>>>
>>>> Dont make yourself funny, Ok? Dont you have your "DEDICATED" fedora
>>>> Mailing list?
>>>>
>>>> I hope you've understood what I mean.
>>>>
>>>> -hasin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Angel<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>> Sorry, sorry. My mistake again, it's Ubuntu Mailing List.
>>>>> :(
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Angel<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Download a Live Fedora Cd from
>>>>>> http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora.html. Boot your PC from it. If you
>>>>>> have internet connection, go to Terminal, and
>>>>>> type yum install thunderbird . You are done. If you want to do this
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> GUI, then from Main menu, click Package Management, and search for
>>>>>> Thunderbird. If you like the system, install it on your Pc. Any further
>>>>>> help, ask here,
>>>>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-bangladesh-list .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:14 PM, SYMON SYMON<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>&g

Re: [ Ubuntu-BD ] Piracy bangladesh