Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting
Docks are a problem (though the rest seems alright) 1) None of the docks out there work properly without compositing 2) None seem to be stable 3) They are not actually as good as a task bar (in many people's opinion) 4) The implementations that I have seen do not work as well as apples dock (which is only barley functional enough to be usable). 5) They take up way to much screen space for the functionality they offer ( e.g. if you run several document windows you have a screen full of open office icons but no way to differentiate between them). So from these points I think docks would not be a good way to go (but if there is space I definitely thing they should be included, after all they are popular amongst some people, especially Mac refugees. I do think the rest of your suggestions were quite valid though, good ideas (at least worth including over some of the themes that come included with Ubuntu). Jonathan On 06/02/2008, sylvain marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good, i think i could be here (i hope). > > The recent wallpaper "kuti heron" is a verry good idea... > (black for ubuntustudio / brown for ubuntu / bleue for kubuntu); > with the 3D effect (and 3D icones) by default when the PC could, > with cairo-dock & with ubuntu tweak... > & with a theme like murrina-leopardish modified or > orange-linstablacplastic... > ...i think it will be verry good. > > > What do you think about it ? > > Sam7 > > 2008/2/5, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Hi all, > > > > We are slightly overdue for the next meeting. I suggest this Friday at > > 20:00 > > UTC. Is this too soon for anyone? Too early/late? Ideas? > > > > Items for discussion are: > > > > 1) recent wallpaper submissions, testing by inclusion in the next build, > > etc. > > > > 2) 2D icons: currently underway, I am leaning towards using the simple > > 2D > > version for several reasons. Let's discuss this and find a way to move > > forward. > > > > 3) Testing the clear looks theme, adding to next build. > > > > ...more to come > > > > > > -- > > Kenneth > > > > -- > > ubuntu-art mailing list > > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting
Ah yes... I remember the look of AIX from visiting my dad at IBM ages ago. Now he works from home using Windows, but spends much of his day remotely logged in and working in pure text on his VM account that dates back to the 60's or 70's. I think that old AIX model of handling windows and minimized windows is on the right track. Of course its nice to be able to easily access minimized items even if your desktop is blanketed in windows... but I guess a simple 'show desktop' shortcut or button fixes that. I like how they handle that in Mac, where you hit the button and all your windows slide to the edges and then slide back into place after you've done whatever you need to do on the desktop. Personally, my motivation against additional screen elements is that we already have too many. The proliferation of panels and applets and menus is infuriating, to me. And this is true across all OS's. Its strange to say so, but I really despise the top + bottom panel default configuration in GNOME. Its too much, its confusing (and for new users, a visual assault), and it wastes too much spaces, particularly as computers transition to widescreen. And vertical screen space is crucial! I'm tired of scrolling down constantly! This criticism also applies of course to Apple and their decision to have both a horizontal menu bar and a big honkin' horizontal dock, especially when all their machines are now widescreen. Its awful and stupid. Strangely, I find that Vista's setup draws my ire the least. Just one taskbar. Set it to auto-hide and throw it onto the left edge of the screen. Not fancy, but it works. I mostly ignore it unless I actually want to launch an app or access the system tray. In Vista I use 'switcher' which is basically an expose clone... between that and alt-tab I'm pretty happy, but I'm thinking about looking for a workspace manager to reduce clutter and divide up tasks. -Sumit xl cheese wrote: When I worked at IBM we used AIX linux. The desktop doubled as the dock. Windows were minimized to the desktop and there were no docks or task bars to hold your working apps. Just a big ol' ugly panel. See the minimized apps in the upper left corner: http://www.operating-system.org/betriebssystem/_english/screenshot.php?bsgfx=ibm/aix/aix53-scr-08.jpg http://www.jfedor.org/shots/aix2.gif Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:20:58 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting I agree. I really like a lot of things Apple does to improve usability and the quality of the user experience. The dock is not one of them. Ubuntu should be like Toyota: pillage the best ideas, parts, and features from its competitors and scrap the rest. Improve on those stolen ideas. Toss in a few new innovations. Release. I'm honestly not particularly happy with any of the dock/taskbar/whatever solutions in any OS, whether it be Mac, Linux, or Windows. I set the taskbar or dock to auto-hide and generally either alt-tab or 'expose' to the window I need. While we obviously couldn't implement it into Heron, we should start thinking of what a true step forward would be in this regard (honestly, how long has the taskbar been around now?!). I think the way forward would be to in some way eliminate the paradigm of taskbar or dock items representing open windows and instead work with a unified system in which it is always the windows themselves that you are selecting. This could mean perhaps that visible windows do not appear in the taskbar, and that minimized windows are shown in the taskbar as live images of the window with overlayed text identifying it (this is pretty similar to minimized windows in Mac's dock). With intelligent implementation of multiple desktop spaces and 'expose' the need for a traditional taskbar diminishes. 'buttons' in the desktop manager should be for launching applications or other such actions. Active windows should be represented as exactly that: windows, even if in miniature form in a taskbar/dock or in a tiled form (expose). Anyways, just my 2 cents... -Sumit Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk wrote: Docks are a problem (though the rest seems alright) 1) None of the docks out there work properly without compositing 2) None seem to be stable 3) They are not actually as good as a task bar (in many people's opinion) 4) The implementations that I have seen do not work as well as apples dock (which is only barley functional enough to be usable). 5) They take up way to much screen space for the functionality they offer (e.g. if you run several document windows you have a screen full of open office icons but no way to differentiate between them). So from these points I think docks would not be a good way to go (but if there is space I definitely thing they should be included, after all they are popular amongst some people, especially Mac refugees. I do think the rest of your suggestions were quite valid though, g
Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting
I agree. I really like a lot of things Apple does to improve usability and the quality of the user experience. The dock is not one of them. Ubuntu should be like Toyota: pillage the best ideas, parts, and features from its competitors and scrap the rest. Improve on those stolen ideas. Toss in a few new innovations. Release. I'm honestly not particularly happy with any of the dock/taskbar/whatever solutions in any OS, whether it be Mac, Linux, or Windows. I set the taskbar or dock to auto-hide and generally either alt-tab or 'expose' to the window I need. While we obviously couldn't implement it into Heron, we should start thinking of what a true step forward would be in this regard (honestly, how long has the taskbar been around now?!). I think the way forward would be to in some way eliminate the paradigm of taskbar or dock items representing open windows and instead work with a unified system in which it is always the windows themselves that you are selecting. This could mean perhaps that visible windows do not appear in the taskbar, and that minimized windows are shown in the taskbar as live images of the window with overlayed text identifying it (this is pretty similar to minimized windows in Mac's dock). With intelligent implementation of multiple desktop spaces and 'expose' the need for a traditional taskbar diminishes. 'buttons' in the desktop manager should be for launching applications or other such actions. Active windows should be represented as exactly that: windows, even if in miniature form in a taskbar/dock or in a tiled form (expose). Anyways, just my 2 cents... -Sumit Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk wrote: Docks are a problem (though the rest seems alright) 1) None of the docks out there work properly without compositing 2) None seem to be stable 3) They are not actually as good as a task bar (in many people's opinion) 4) The implementations that I have seen do not work as well as apples dock (which is only barley functional enough to be usable). 5) They take up way to much screen space for the functionality they offer (e.g. if you run several document windows you have a screen full of open office icons but no way to differentiate between them). So from these points I think docks would not be a good way to go (but if there is space I definitely thing they should be included, after all they are popular amongst some people, especially Mac refugees. I do think the rest of your suggestions were quite valid though, good ideas (at least worth including over some of the themes that come included with Ubuntu). Jonathan On 06/02/2008, sylvain marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good, i think i could be here (i hope). The recent wallpaper "kuti heron" is a verry good idea... (black for ubuntustudio / brown for ubuntu / bleue for kubuntu); with the 3D effect (and 3D icones) by default when the PC could, with cairo-dock & with ubuntu tweak... & with a theme like murrina-leopardish modified or orange-linstablacplastic... ...i think it will be verry good. What do you think about it ? Sam7 2008/2/5, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi all, We are slightly overdue for the next meeting. I suggest this Friday at 20:00 UTC. Is this too soon for anyone? Too early/late? Ideas? Items for discussion are: 1) recent wallpaper submissions, testing by inclusion in the next build, etc. 2) 2D icons: currently underway, I am leaning towards using the simple 2D version for several reasons. Let's discuss this and find a way to move forward. 3) Testing the clear looks theme, adding to next build. ...more to come -- Kenneth -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy artwork
Extra ! we need it in brown for ubuntu, in blue for kubuntu and in black for ubuntustudio ! 2008/2/5, Miquel Tarazona Belenguer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I also love the Fela Kuti Wallpaper, but I think we can get a better > result with translucent backgroud (see remixes) because you don't get > limited to one background colour and you can fit it with your favourite > theme colors. > > See Remixes at Fela Kuti Alternate, I also post a SVG as example. > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Fela_Kuti#head-3fe7dc61afd1a0e2cbd71ed5625ac3f97a829677 > > > El dt 05 de 02 del 2008 a les 18:12 +0100, en/na gp va escriure: > > I think that Fela Kuti is a very nice Wallpaper Login. > > I think that it can be extended like Wallpaper Desktop default and the > > same color scheme can be used to make all artwork. > > It is not a huge work because can be used the Human Theme but changing > > the color scheme. > > > > gp > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy artwork
Fantastic ! you find it in blue ! 2008/2/5, xl cheese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Here's a shot of the ubuntuclearlooks with the fela kuti transparent bg: > -- You can see the metacity button prelight in this pic as well on the > minimize button. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/SmoothMergedGradients?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=felakutiClearlooks.png > > With just a few clicks my desktop looked like this (using the same > wallpaper and theme): > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/SmoothMergedGradients?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=felakutiClearlooksblue.png > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > > Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:29:06 -0600 > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy artwork > > > > That's a great idea! I was playing with it having the translucent bg > and it works great. > > > > Only thing I would change is to make the objects have a little more > opacity so they are more subtle. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > >> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:40:15 +0100 > >> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] hardy artwork > >> > >> I also love the Fela Kuti Wallpaper, but I think we can get a better > >> result with translucent backgroud (see remixes) because you don't get > >> limited to one background colour and you can fit it with your favourite > >> theme colors. > >> > >> See Remixes at Fela Kuti Alternate, I also post a SVG as example. > >> > >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/Fela_Kuti#head-3fe7dc61afd1a0e2cbd71ed5625ac3f97a829677 > >> > >> > >> El dt 05 de 02 del 2008 a les 18:12 +0100, en/na gp va escriure: > >>> I think that Fela Kuti is a very nice Wallpaper Login. > >>> I think that it can be extended like Wallpaper Desktop default and the > >>> same color scheme can be used to make all artwork. > >>> It is not a huge work because can be used the Human Theme but changing > >>> the color scheme. > >>> > >>> gp > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ubuntu-art mailing list > >> ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > > > > > > > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! > > _ > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. > > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting
thanks for your comment 2008/2/7, Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Docks are a problem (though the rest seems alright) > 1) None of the docks out there work properly without compositing > 2) None seem to be stable > 3) They are not actually as good as a task bar (in many people's opinion) > 4) The implementations that I have seen do not work as well as apples dock > (which is only barley functional enough to be usable). > 5) They take up way to much screen space for the functionality they offer > (e.g. if you run several document windows you have a screen full of open > office icons but no way to differentiate between them). > So from these points I think docks would not be a good way to go (but if > there is space I definitely thing they should be included, after all they > are popular amongst some people, especially Mac refugees. > > I do think the rest of your suggestions were quite valid though, good > ideas (at least worth including over some of the themes that come included > with Ubuntu). > > Jonathan > > On 06/02/2008, sylvain marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Good, i think i could be here (i hope). > > > > The recent wallpaper "kuti heron" is a verry good idea... > > (black for ubuntustudio / brown for ubuntu / bleue for kubuntu); > > with the 3D effect (and 3D icones) by default when the PC could, > > with cairo-dock & with ubuntu tweak... > > & with a theme like murrina-leopardish modified or > > orange-linstablacplastic... > > ...i think it will be verry good. > > > > > > What do you think about it ? > > > > Sam7 > > > > 2008/2/5, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > We are slightly overdue for the next meeting. I suggest this Friday at > > > 20:00 > > > UTC. Is this too soon for anyone? Too early/late? Ideas? > > > > > > Items for discussion are: > > > > > > 1) recent wallpaper submissions, testing by inclusion in the next > > > build, etc. > > > > > > 2) 2D icons: currently underway, I am leaning towards using the simple > > > 2D > > > version for several reasons. Let's discuss this and find a way to move > > > forward. > > > > > > 3) Testing the clear looks theme, adding to next build. > > > > > > ...more to come > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Kenneth > > > > > > -- > > > ubuntu-art mailing list > > > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-art mailing list > > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting
I can see some good points there! Possibly a good goal for a release where we try and break from the standard desktop environment layout (much more natural) but at the moment if you shrink down, say, a few open office documents to a size where its not intrusive it is fairly indistinct (an icon would be better). A few of apples applications have this behavior on the dock and while for movies it works rarely will anyone ever have more than one playing (let alone minimized) but for documents this definitely doesn't work, even with very very large zooming effects. I do think that a task bar replacement is in order after all this time however unless something *equally* functional in *every* way can be found then it would be worth considering. The great thing about the task bar is that it uses a tiny amount of space and does its job very well. Just because something is old doesn't mean it should be replaced. "If it aint broke don't fix it". On the other hand I am definitely not saying do not try and find a replacement (or remove optional functionality like docks), after all this is what Linux is all about! On 08/02/2008, Sumit Chandra Agarwal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree. I really like a lot of things Apple does to improve usability > and the quality of the user experience. The dock is not one of them. > > Ubuntu should be like Toyota: pillage the best ideas, parts, and features > from its competitors and scrap the rest. Improve on those stolen ideas. Toss > in a few new innovations. Release. > > I'm honestly not particularly happy with any of the dock/taskbar/whatever > solutions in any OS, whether it be Mac, Linux, or Windows. I set the taskbar > or dock to auto-hide and generally either alt-tab or 'expose' to the window > I need. While we obviously couldn't implement it into Heron, we should start > thinking of what a true step forward would be in this regard (honestly, *how > *long has the taskbar been around now?!). I think the way forward would be > to in some way eliminate the paradigm of taskbar or dock items *representing > *open windows and instead work with a unified system in which it is always > the windows themselves that you are selecting. This could mean perhaps that > visible windows do not appear in the taskbar, and that minimized windows are > shown in the taskbar as live images of the window with overlayed text > identifying it (this is pretty similar to minimized windows in Mac's dock). > With intelligent implementation of multiple desktop spaces and 'expose' the > need for a traditional taskbar diminishes. > > 'buttons' in the desktop manager should be for launching applications or > other such actions. Active windows should be represented as exactly that: > windows, even if in miniature form in a taskbar/dock or in a tiled form > (expose). > > Anyways, just my 2 cents... > -Sumit > > Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk wrote: > > Docks are a problem (though the rest seems alright) > 1) None of the docks out there work properly without compositing > 2) None seem to be stable > 3) They are not actually as good as a task bar (in many people's opinion) > 4) The implementations that I have seen do not work as well as apples dock > (which is only barley functional enough to be usable). > 5) They take up way to much screen space for the functionality they offer > (e.g. if you run several document windows you have a screen full of open > office icons but no way to differentiate between them). > So from these points I think docks would not be a good way to go (but if > there is space I definitely thing they should be included, after all they > are popular amongst some people, especially Mac refugees. > > I do think the rest of your suggestions were quite valid though, good > ideas (at least worth including over some of the themes that come included > with Ubuntu). > > Jonathan > > On 06/02/2008, sylvain marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Good, i think i could be here (i hope). > > > > The recent wallpaper "kuti heron" is a verry good idea... > > (black for ubuntustudio / brown for ubuntu / bleue for kubuntu); > > with the 3D effect (and 3D icones) by default when the PC could, > > with cairo-dock & with ubuntu tweak... > > & with a theme like murrina-leopardish modified or > > orange-linstablacplastic... > > ...i think it will be verry good. > > > > > > What do you think about it ? > > > > Sam7 > > > > 2008/2/5, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > We are slightly overdue for the next meeting. I suggest this Friday at > > > 20:00 > > > UTC. Is this too soon for anyone? Too early/late? Ideas? > > > > > > Items for discussion are: > > > > > > 1) recent wallpaper submissions, testing by inclusion in the next > > > build, etc. > > > > > > 2) 2D icons: currently underway, I am leaning towards using the simple > > > 2D > > > version for several reasons. Let's discuss this and find a way to move > > > forward. > > > > > > 3) Testing the clear looks theme, adding to next
Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting
When I worked at IBM we used AIX linux. The desktop doubled as the dock. Windows were minimized to the desktop and there were no docks or task bars to hold your working apps. Just a big ol' ugly panel. See the minimized apps in the upper left corner: http://www.operating-system.org/betriebssystem/_english/screenshot.php?bsgfx=ibm/aix/aix53-scr-08.jpg http://www.jfedor.org/shots/aix2.gif Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:20:58 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [ubuntu-art] next meeting I agree. I really like a lot of things Apple does to improve usability and the quality of the user experience. The dock is not one of them.Ubuntu should be like Toyota: pillage the best ideas, parts, and features from its competitors and scrap the rest. Improve on those stolen ideas. Toss in a few new innovations. Release.I'm honestly not particularly happy with any of the dock/taskbar/whatever solutions in any OS, whether it be Mac, Linux, or Windows. I set the taskbar or dock to auto-hide and generally either alt-tab or 'expose' to the window I need. While we obviously couldn't implement it into Heron, we should start thinking of what a true step forward would be in this regard (honestly, how long has the taskbar been around now?!). I think the way forward would be to in some way eliminate the paradigm of taskbar or dock items representing open windows and instead work with a unified system in which it is always the windows themselves that you are selecting. This could mean perhaps that visible windows do not appear in the taskbar, and that minimized windows are shown in the taskbar as live images of the window with overlayed text identifying it (this is pretty similar to minimized windows in Mac's dock). With intelligent implementation of multiple desktop spaces and 'expose' the need for a traditional taskbar diminishes.'buttons' in the desktop manager should be for launching applications or other such actions. Active windows should be represented as exactly that: windows, even if in miniature form in a taskbar/dock or in a tiled form (expose).Anyways, just my 2 cents...-SumitWebmaster, Jhnet.co.uk wrote: Docks are a problem (though the rest seems alright)1) None of the docks out there work properly without compositing2) None seem to be stable3) They are not actually as good as a task bar (in many people's opinion)4) The implementations that I have seen do not work as well as apples dock (which is only barley functional enough to be usable).5) They take up way to much screen space for the functionality they offer (e.g. if you run several document windows you have a screen full of open office icons but no way to differentiate between them).So from these points I think docks would not be a good way to go (but if there is space I definitely thing they should be included, after all they are popular amongst some people, especially Mac refugees.I do think the rest of your suggestions were quite valid though, good ideas (at least worth including over some of the themes that come included with Ubuntu).Jonathan On 06/02/2008, sylvain marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good, i think i could be here (i hope).The recent wallpaper "kuti heron" is a verry good idea...(black for ubuntustudio / brown for ubuntu / bleue for kubuntu);with the 3D effect (and 3D icones) by default when the PC could,with cairo-dock & with ubuntu tweak... & with a theme like murrina-leopardish modified or orange-linstablacplastic..i think it will be verry good.What do you think about it ?Sam7 2008/2/5, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi all,We are slightly overdue for the next meeting. I suggest this Friday at 20:00UTC. Is this too soon for anyone? Too early/late? Ideas?Items for discussion are:1) recent wallpaper submissions, testing by inclusion in the next build, etc.2) 2D icons: currently underway, I am leaning towards using the simple 2Dversion for several reasons. Let's discuss this and find a way to moveforward.3) Testing the clear looks theme, adding to next buildmore to come--Kenneth--ubuntu-art mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art--ubuntu-art mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art _ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Quick user switching panel applet. OT?
Good menu ! i want it in the 8.04 ! 2008/2/6, Andrew Laignel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Webmaster, Jhnet.co.uk wrote: > > Yeh I see what you are saying, if I remember rightly you can indeed > > bind shortcuts (involving the windows (or "super") key to locking and > > other things though I have a feeling they are bound to other things by > > default (if at all). I wasn't necessarily suggesting not having the > > functionality (it is something KDE has which can be very valuable), > > but I don't feel that using it over having the currently well > > organized menu is a good idea. > The problems with shortcuts is most people never know about them as > people don't generally read the manual - they just figure things out > based on what is visible to them. Functionality that is only available > through a shortcut is a bad design decision. > > 90% of the problems Windows has stems from the fact that installers can > do whatever they please - who's bright idea was it to let software > handle its own install rather than the system? If MS made a proper > installer and forced all the old school ones that enjoy making a mess to > run in a sandbox/vm and simply not allow people to run .exe's (unless > they know enough to let them) that would be the bulk of their problems > solved. The recently used list on Windows is a godsend just because the > start menu is generally so badly organised it takes ages to find anything. > > I still think it is worthwhile though and could be easily done on gnome > just by adding a new application category of 'recently used' that would > do the job to the main list - it wouldn't necessarily need to be the > first item either. > > I've added an expanded quick and dirty idea for the gnome bar that would > add this functionality and also expand the utility of the functionality > of the main toolbar. Most other systems seem to use an expanded version > and using Gnome afterwards seems a little bleak. > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
