Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted 10.0.0 released

2010-03-11 Thread Chris Withers
exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
> Also, I'm pretty sure that the 9.0 Windows installer _also_ didn't 
> include zope.interface.  So this isn't a new situation with 10.0.
>> Is zope.interface not used/required anymore?
>> If so, why is it shipping in the non-windows version?
> 
> It doesn't ship in any of the packages for other platforms, either (nor 
> do any of our other external dependencies).

Ah, okay, I guess my question becomes: why was it ever bundles in the 
windows distribution then?

Chris

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Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted 10.0.0 released

2010-03-11 Thread Thomas Hervé
Le jeudi 11 mars 2010 à 10:08 +, Chris Withers a écrit :
> exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
> > Also, I'm pretty sure that the 9.0 Windows installer _also_ didn't 
> > include zope.interface.  So this isn't a new situation with 10.0.
> >> Is zope.interface not used/required anymore?
> >> If so, why is it shipping in the non-windows version?
> > 
> > It doesn't ship in any of the packages for other platforms, either (nor 
> > do any of our other external dependencies).
> 
> Ah, okay, I guess my question becomes: why was it ever bundles in the 
> windows distribution then?

Because Zope didn't provide a binary version of zope.interface for
Windows at that time, and zope.interface has a C extension.

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Re: [Twisted-Python] Twisted 10.0.0 released

2010-03-11 Thread Chris Withers
Thomas Hervé wrote:
> Le jeudi 11 mars 2010 à 10:08 +, Chris Withers a écrit :
>> exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
>>> Also, I'm pretty sure that the 9.0 Windows installer _also_ didn't 
>>> include zope.interface.  So this isn't a new situation with 10.0.
 Is zope.interface not used/required anymore?
 If so, why is it shipping in the non-windows version?
>>> It doesn't ship in any of the packages for other platforms, either (nor 
>>> do any of our other external dependencies).
>> Ah, okay, I guess my question becomes: why was it ever bundles in the 
>> windows distribution then?
> 
> Because Zope didn't provide a binary version of zope.interface for
> Windows at that time,

Really? To my knowledge, Zope has provided windows binaries for 
zope.interface prettymuch since it came into existence...

(I know, I'm sure I used to compile them for a time ;-) )

Chris

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[Twisted-Python] http://twistedmatrix.com/ trac installation updated

2010-03-11 Thread exarkun
Hi all,

Thomas and I have finished upgrading the trac installation on 
http://twistedmatrix.com/ to 0.11.6.  We expect that this will resolve a 
number of the issues the site has had.

If you notice anything broken about the website now, please point it 
out.

Jean-Paul

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Re: [Twisted-Python] http://twistedmatrix.com/ trac installation updated

2010-03-11 Thread Jonathan Lange
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 8:05 PM,   wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Thomas and I have finished upgrading the trac installation on
> http://twistedmatrix.com/ to 0.11.6.  We expect that this will resolve a
> number of the issues the site has had.
>
> If you notice anything broken about the website now, please point it
> out.
>

Thank you very much Jean-Paul & Thomas!

jml

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Re: [Twisted-Python] http://twistedmatrix.com/ trac installation updated

2010-03-11 Thread Kevin Horn
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:05 PM,  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Thomas and I have finished upgrading the trac installation on
> http://twistedmatrix.com/ to 0.11.6.  We expect that this will resolve a
> number of the issues the site has had.
>
> If you notice anything broken about the website now, please point it
> out.
>
> Jean-Paul
>
>
Here's a minor thing...

When viewing a diff, the legend is incomplete.  I just see text
("Unmodified", "Added", etc.) without any images/colors.

It's a tiny thing, but you did ask... :)

browser: Firefox 3.5 on Win32

Kevin Horn
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[Twisted-Python] Twisted easy bugs, and other thoughts about getting people involved in Twisted

2010-03-11 Thread Asheesh Laroia
I ran into David Reid at PyCon a few weeks ago, and I showed him an index 
of "easy" and "bitesize" bugs I'm putting on the web at 
https://openhatch.org/search/. He told me that the Twisted team tags bugs 
as "easy" in Trac.

So all you might like to see 
https://openhatch.org/search/?q=Twisted&toughness=bitesize -- it's the 
result of search for bugs whose full text or project matches "Twisted", 
constrained to only include the bugs that are "easy". This is the same 
query as 
http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&keywords=~easy&order=priority
 
-- the same 18 tickets -- but cached in our index.

The OpenHatch website aims to show helpful, friendly things to potential 
new contributors. A list of bugs isn't always adequate, so I'm really 
happy jesstess wrote some tips on the OpenHatch project page regarding 
getting involved in Twisted: https://openhatch.org/+projects/Twisted

The "Relatedly" sidebox on that project page has other helpful links: 
potential mentors, namely people who have signed into OpenHatch and said 
they can mentor in Python or Twisted.

So that's a quick tour of some of relevant things to you guys. I have a 
few questions for you guys, if you're game:

* Of these things, what are the most interesting or useful? the least?

* Are there other tickets from the Twisted Trac that would be good to pull 
in?

* Would you like me to ping the list if we come up with anything else I 
think you might find interesting?

* Do any of you want to re-use some of this data -- can we make that 
easier?

We're pretty interested in helping projects convert users to contributors 
(in code, testing, documentation, whatever!) across free software. I 
wonder if there is a website widget that we could make for you to put on 
twistedmatrix.com -- a big box talking about how "You TOO can contribute 
to Twisted -- there are mentors, easy bugs, and everything!"

This email has gotten fairly long, so I'll stop here for now.

I don't mean to barge in; let me know if I'm unwelcome, and I'll wander 
off. I find myself in a maze of Twisted developers, none of whom are 
alike. Thanks! I'll be hanging out on #twisted as myself, paulproteus.

-- Asheesh.

P.S. If you think this is interesting, stay in touch with us:

IRC (freenode): #openhatch
Twitter/Identi.ca: @openhatchery
blog: https://openhatch.org/blog/
email and more: https://openhatch.org/contact/

P.S. The OpenHatch website has its source in git and shared under a free 
license -- https://openhatch.org/source-code-etc/

-- 
"World conquerors sometimes become fools, but fools never become world
conquerors."
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Re: [Twisted-Python] http://twistedmatrix.com/ trac installation updated

2010-03-11 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz

On Mar 11, 2010, at 3:14 PM, Jonathan Lange wrote:

> Thank you very much Jean-Paul & Thomas!

I second this sentiment!  I am *thrilled* that we're now on a released version 
of trac, and I applaud the hard work that it took to get us there.

Hopefully now it will be easier for other people to help pitch in with 
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