[Torios] [Blueprint torios-logo] ToriOS Official Logo
Blueprint changed by zleap: Whiteboard changed: [amjjawad] I know the first design that I made, which is on the www.torios.org for now, is using the light blue colour but I'd be very careful with blue. Despite the fact that it is one of my favourite and it is great colour but almost all Ubuntu Official Variants are using Blue (Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME, Kubuntu and Ubuntu Studio). I don't really know if it is great idea to use blue? yes, the current blue is different but still blue :) What is the colour that represent: Freedom? Simplicity? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [israeldahl] I agree that blue might be a bit overdone (don't forget XP using it in the panel and window decorations), I had assumed it was the 'official' color. It seems blue and grey are both over used colors. something that would stand out more is using the opposite side (like yellow ubuntu uses orange) Yellow stand out and is vibrant. This avoids the major colors *most* use. Turmeric is a great yellow color and very healthy for you :) I started posting some logo ideas to the ToriOS forum. Some do not have the Japanese character, but, that was before I read this page :( They have a torii... WE need to decide what FONT we will use for the logo text/DE/etc + + + [zleap] + + Also consider what it looks like in greyscale, for the manual I made + the logo greyscale so it would save on ink during printing, also it + means that if the whole book is like that inc internal screendumps then + it is consistant, and may be cheaper to print for people in general. -- ToriOS Official Logo https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/torios-logo -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Torios] [Blueprint team-communications] Healthy Communications for ToriOS Team
Blueprint changed by zleap: Whiteboard set to: I think people may be new to launchpad like me, are still finding their way around what is a comprehensive and complex system to use., I am sure things will come together in the end. -- Healthy Communications for ToriOS Team https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/team-communications -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Torios] [Blueprint team-communications] Healthy Communications for ToriOS Team
Blueprint changed by zleap: Whiteboard changed: - I think people may be new to launchpad like me, are still finding their - way around what is a comprehensive and complex system to use., + [zleap] + I think people may be new to launchpad like me, are still finding their way around what is a comprehensive and complex system to use., - I am sure things will come together in the end. + I am sure things will come together in the end. I just re-edited this + as i forgot to include my name. -- Healthy Communications for ToriOS Team https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/team-communications -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Torios] [Blueprint de-wm] DE (Desktop Enviroment)/WM (Window Manager) for ToriOS
Blueprint changed by zleap: Whiteboard changed: [f-jack]Could we do xfce? Brian Kanto As I understand it, the goal is to replace XP.. Though, I do not think the goal is a near duplicate, like zoran, it shoud have some points that make XP users feel comfortable. Xfce can do this, but it is not that light. I have not used much stuff lighter than Lxde, but I belive open box can be made to look similar and be lighter on the resources. So, I guess, it comes to how light we want it. A few Xp computers, have only 128MB. That would be tough on XP. My friends over at Bodhi, chose enightenment. It is well done, but seemed a bit closed for me. I would love to hear from some openbox experts/ [israeldahl] if we use openbox, there NEEDS to be a GUI to configure the rc.xml file. I am thinking specifically of the keyboard. gdialog/bash could work for this (like Puppy does for JWM) It might be nice to do an all-in-one sort of configuration window, like the XP control panel. Or course anyone who is really good at C++ could chime in! [tausif-0593] I would suggest enlightenment 17/18; e17 is a solid choice given that Bodhi linux has a non-pae iso with e17 specifically. I have not explored e18 but it definitely seems to be a build on e17 with alot of enhancements. But if we do end up with openbox, it would be quite an interesting trip given that it is very possible to have nice looking ui. [Mélodie] Hi, it will be Openbox, at least as long as I dedicate myself to make the first ISO(s) which will be available for testing and modifying soon. Ali: I would not want to bring systematic contradiction to you, however, if you don't want any component from Lxde I'll be out, because there are at least two of them which I have always used, if not a few more. They are only a few components which are standalone and don't need depends. We are not going to invent again the wheel, as they say. Some items are very handy and not heavy at all. The main tool I use in Openbox environments, is one which allows having a very easy to use Openbox desktop. It relies precisely on a lib provided by the Lxde project. ;) israeldahl: this is what obconf does. It modifies rc.xml. Other gui tools are also available for shortcuts and for menu.xml. They are not recent, however it seems they still work. And we would need some new tools. I will provide a todo on the mailing list once the first ISO will be made available. One big advantage with Openbox apart from it's lightness and numerous available tools provided for it by the community, is that it is quite versatile and allows changing to other desktops of your like easily. [israeldahl] Hi, my main concern is the Keyboard Shortcuts. There is currently no GUI I know of to edit ALL the rc.xml, only the one you spoke of that handles MOST of the xml file. I agree that Openbox is a great choice, as it can incorporate many different things (tint2, awn, docky, cairo, gnome-panel, xfce panel, and of course lxpanel) and can be highly customized. - [Mélodie] israeldaht: for keyboard shortcuts some tools exist as gui frontend. http://code.google.com/p/obkey/ http://lambda.host22.com/?page=keybinder Almost all the gui tools built around Openbox are aging, not updated, and written in different languages, which when used need to install depends which will make Openbox less light. In the meanwhile some new tools also started to be worked on more recently. + + + [zleap] + + With regard to no cli, will it be easy to be able to switch between boot into cli and gui, it used to be a case of just editing inittab then the line + initdefault:3 for cli or initdefault:5 for gui + + Sometimes being able to set things to always boot in to the cli is + useful. Maybe there should be a small tool written to do this. -- DE (Desktop Enviroment)/WM (Window Manager) for ToriOS https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/de-wm -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Torios] LaTex and cc licenses
Hi I have managed to insert some very basic logos for the license in the manual, cc - by - sa (for now at least) I know that the ubuntu manual has the fill text too, just wondered if anyone knew how this was achieved. same goes for the gpl license text. Paul -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Torios] Been quite around here, huh?
On 27/01/14 12:00, JM wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:45:18 -0600 > Israel wrote: > >> On 01/26/2014 08:18 PM, William wrote: >>> Hello everyone! >>> >>> I know this project seems to have fallen rather silent, but don't >>> worry, come what may the project is still alive! You are all invited >>> to join together on IRC @ #torios >>> >>> Future announcements are pending! >>> >>> William >>> >> Great! Post to this list please with any new developments!! > Hi, > > The #torios channel is on the irc.freenode.net server. If unfamiliar with IRC > I suggest > you install xchat (the simple one, not xchat-gnome), and have a look on the > web at how to > set it up. Many places offer tutorials with screenshots. > > Once done you can improve the setup by choosing colors fonts and behavior in > the > preferences menu of the program. > > Regards, > Mélodie > > Is it worth adding a freenode webchat link on the website, there is a simple way to add a link to the channel and auto join, when setting up you get the option of allowing a user to specify a nick name or have one auto generated which can be set when you set up, as in guest1 for example. I have done this for the Devon and Cornwall LUG irc channel Paul -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Torios] twitter
Hi Do we have a twitter account set up yet, if we do I can follow that on twitter mine is @zleap14 Paul -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Torios] Sunsetting i386 for Lubuntu
Even thoughi386 is seen as becoming obsolete, there are still many 32 bit systems out there, and it is better to support them while we can. Good reason for TorIOS and similar systems specific for these older and slower systems. Paul January 11, 2019 2:17 AM, "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" mailto:%22Ali%20Linx%20(amjjawad)%22%20)> wrote: Hi everyone, This is FYI: https://lubuntu.me/sunsetting-i386/ (https://lubuntu.me/sunsetting-i386/) Just in case you haven't seen it yet. -- Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." Best Regards, Ali/amjjawad (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Torios] manual updates
Hi All Started work on re-doing the manual in pure latex as this will help people contribute .to this. I am however using Overleaf which is cloud based, but I can download the whole project to a git hub repository and push. l have a fresh repository for the latex version (will post the url later) Again happy for this to be pushed to launchpad too. One question for clarity ToriOS 1.5 is the latest version It is based on Ubuntu and Debian Is this correct. or are we just basing ToriOS on Debian.? I think there is more chance that Debian is going to be supporting i386 for a while later. Do we want a section of the Manual to cover the JWM settings manager, or should I just direct people to the JWM website, The same goes for the install section I would rather keep this to a minimum and direct people to the OBI installer website, partly as those websites can be kept up to date by the developers. Paul -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Torios] [Blueprint recruit-contributors] Recruit More Contributors for ToriOS
Blueprint changed by zleap: Whiteboard changed: -- Recruit More Contributors for ToriOS https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/recruit-contributors -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Torios] [Blueprint recruit-contributors] Recruit More Contributors for ToriOS
Blueprint changed by zleap: Whiteboard changed: [zleap] How do these look http://ubuntuone.com/7S310gGrEGUMOwF55c1swx - logo http://ubuntuone.com/7S310gGrEGUMOwF55c1swx poster odt format http://ubuntuone.com/5ROex9zb7IkdV3D0R4lPvl poster pdf format First step I think is to get the web site up and running, then put all the info on how to get involved clearly on the website so its a case of click and signup, granted people need e-mail & a launchpad account. [amjjawad][RE: zleap] Great work, my friend. I'd suggest to replace the website address with: http://amjjawad.blogspot.com/2014/01/meet- torios.html + + [zleap] + Done -- Recruit More Contributors for ToriOS https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/recruit-contributors -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Torios] [Blueprint recruit-contributors] Recruit More Contributors for ToriOS
Hi That sounds a good plan, having a good recruitment page can make the difference between people joining or not joining in. Maybe have links to all the related bits too, such as the launchpad page, g+, facebook, twitter etc, a link to sign up to the e-mail and the info from the launchpad page itself, https://launchpad.net/~torios I have put my own links on my website (more for personal reference so I can keep track of things) http://zleap.net/torios/ if you provide enough information it would be really helpful to people, Here is a link so people can sign up to launchpad as i am guessing it could be new to people https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/NewAccount I am sure its better to take a few days to get this right, then launch, than rush it and get things wrong. Paul On 15/01/14 23:12, William wrote: > I actually really like that logo. It's nice and simple and goes with > the light blue theme I am developing. I actually played off of it just > for fun, which is attached. I suppose I'll have to get an ubuntuone > account to cut down on attachments. > > As far as the website goes for recruitment purposes, would you rather > I take the information from your document and incorporate it into the > splash page I currently have up at www.torios.org? I could make it > look nice and have it done by morning, unless I can get to it tonight. > Then we could hold off on launching the real site until we get closer > to our first release date. If I put up what I am working on now ASAP > for recruitment purposes, it will have slightly have baked components > - it needs a few more days. > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 4:39 PM, amjjawad wrote: >> Blueprint changed by amjjawad: Whiteboard set to: [zleap] How do >> these look http://ubuntuone.com/7S310gGrEGUMOwF55c1swx - logo >> http://ubuntuone.com/7S310gGrEGUMOwF55c1swx poster odt format >> http://ubuntuone.com/5ROex9zb7IkdV3D0R4lPvl poster pdf format First >> step I think is to get the web site up and running, then put all the >> info on how to get involved clearly on the website so its a case of >> click and signup, granted people need e-mail & a launchpad account. >> -- >> Recruit More Contributors for ToriOS >> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/recruit-contributors >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios >> <https://launchpad.net/%7Etorios> Post to : >> torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : >> https://launchpad.net/~torios <https://launchpad.net/%7Etorios> More >> help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Torios] [Blueprint documentation] ToriOS Documentation
Blueprint changed by zleap: Whiteboard changed: [Smile4ever] I suggest we host the documentation on our own wiki, based on MediaWiki software? I have a lot of experience with MediaWiki, and it works great. It needs PHP and MySQL and some other - rather frequent - libraries. Website: http://mediawiki.org For the offline documentation, we can use LaTex actually if we use MediaWiki syntax: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2029270/convert-latex-to-mediawiki-syntax http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2431530/convert-mediawiki-to-latex-syntax + + [zleap] + While my knowledge of LaTeX is minimal I can create basic documents I just think LaTeX is more open to people to edit etc. -- ToriOS Documentation https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/documentation -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Torios] [Blueprint documentation] ToriOS Documentation
Blueprint changed by zleap: Whiteboard changed: [Smile4ever] I suggest we host the documentation on our own wiki, based on MediaWiki software? I have a lot of experience with MediaWiki, and it works great. It needs PHP and MySQL and some other - rather frequent - libraries. Website: http://mediawiki.org For the offline documentation, we can use LaTex actually if we use MediaWiki syntax: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2029270/convert-latex-to-mediawiki-syntax http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2431530/convert-mediawiki-to-latex-syntax [zleap] - While my knowledge of LaTeX is minimal I can create basic documents I just think LaTeX is more open to people to edit etc. + While my knowledge of LaTeX is minimal I can create basic documents I just think LaTeX is more open to people to edit etc, better than using open document format as LaTeX is simply plain text with markup -- ToriOS Documentation https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/documentation -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Torios] [Blueprint documentation] ToriOS Documentation
Blueprint changed by zleap: Whiteboard changed: [Smile4ever] I suggest we host the documentation on our own wiki, based on MediaWiki software? I have a lot of experience with MediaWiki, and it works great. It needs PHP and MySQL and some other - rather frequent - libraries. Website: http://mediawiki.org For the offline documentation, we can use LaTex actually if we use MediaWiki syntax: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2029270/convert-latex-to-mediawiki-syntax http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2431530/convert-mediawiki-to-latex-syntax [zleap] While my knowledge of LaTeX is minimal I can create basic documents I just think LaTeX is more open to people to edit etc, better than using open document format as LaTeX is simply plain text with markup + + [zleap] + + Made a start using LaTeX and TeX Studio under Lubuntu 13.10 + http://ubuntuone.com/0b4bWMCUqrpH3coeXOZSTO for the pdf file -- ToriOS Documentation https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/documentation -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Torios] [Blueprint documentation] ToriOS Documentation
Blueprint changed by zleap: Whiteboard changed: [Smile4ever] I suggest we host the documentation on our own wiki, based on MediaWiki software? I have a lot of experience with MediaWiki, and it works great. It needs PHP and MySQL and some other - rather frequent - libraries. Website: http://mediawiki.org For the offline documentation, we can use LaTex actually if we use MediaWiki syntax: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2029270/convert-latex-to-mediawiki-syntax http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2431530/convert-mediawiki-to-latex-syntax [zleap] While my knowledge of LaTeX is minimal I can create basic documents I just think LaTeX is more open to people to edit etc, better than using open document format as LaTeX is simply plain text with markup [zleap] Made a start using LaTeX and TeX Studio under Lubuntu 13.10 http://ubuntuone.com/0b4bWMCUqrpH3coeXOZSTO for the pdf file + + Just updated this so it should now be possible to download the latest + version, I am not sure why 1 page shows 4 then contents in the other + corner + + Hers is the source .tex file http://ubuntuone.com/5rzAxxDWQ3DQi6210090p6 -- ToriOS Documentation https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/documentation -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
