Re: [Torios] JWM config
Hi Israel, [replying inline] Best regards/Nio 2014-06-14 22:32, Israel skrev: > On 06/14/2014 02:16 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> 2014-06-14 08:25, Israel skrev: >>> On 06/14/2014 01:00 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: 2014-06-14 06:25, Israel skrev: > On 06/12/2014 02:46 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> Good work Israel :-) >> >> Best regards >> Nio > OK, so I have gotten a very basic FLTK version (with lots of missing > features). But, it works! > I think I am going to bump the version to 0.002 > Here is a screenshot. (I know the icon looks horrible... I resized it > wrong) > I wanted to make a video, but you have to restart JWM in order to make > the changes... so it would kill the desktop recorder. > > Hi Israel, Let us know, when you want your version to be uploaded for other people to try, and we can find a good way to do it. Best regards Nio >>> I will... I want to add more functionality, and add some serious error >>> catching. I don't want the user to be able to accidentally remove his >>> config file, and then not have a desktop. >>> So I will need to add in a check where it looks for the file, and if it >>> doesn't exist makes it. I already have a backup function (while you are >>> editing your changes)... but it is pretty simple. >>> So, when it becomes a bit more 'safe' I will let others use it. >>> probably once I get to a 0.01 version. There is much I have to refactor >>> and clean up... unless there is someone else who likes programming, and >>> wants to help out, I don't want users to use this yet, as it is too >>> unfinished. When it is closer I will even make a ppa for it. >>> >>> Since you are so into helping... I have been thinking about the >>> directory structure more. >>> I think we should have a themes directory in the .jwm directory. In >>> there we can have theme folders with their own panel file, etc... what >>> do you think about that? >>> >>> Also... I have been looking into the menu structure a bit... and want to >>> figure out a way to make the programs in the menu have a better menu >>> structure. I don't entirely understand what is going on with the menu >>> stuff but the docs are at /usr/share/doc/menu/html if you have jwm >>> installed on Debian/Ubuntu. >>> >>> I'd like a much cleaner menu similar to what other wm have (like >>> LXDE/XFCE) with simple categories. >>> >> Hi Israel, >> >> OK, you know, when it is ready for other people to test, and to get it >> from a ppa is a good alternative :-) >> >> I think it will work with a themes directory in the .jwm directory. >> >> A clean menu is a good thing. But you should also consider, what happens >> when people install software packages (that automatically add entries >> into the menu). >> >> Best regards >> Nio > Ye, this is what I am talking about... the program menu works, to all > programs installed with a menu entry file. But the structure of the > menu is less than desirable. I am thinking we should modify the scripts > that create the menu and/or the menu itself. We can modify this by > adding a .menu-methods folder to the user's home dir. > The problem with the current menu is some programs do not create this > old-style menu file... instead they only create a desktop file > (firefox is one example). I think it would be beneficial to edit the > script to scan the /usr/share/applications for *.desktop and parse that. This sounds like a good idea :-) > You are pretty good at scripting it seems (since the OBI is so > awesome). Could you install jwm & menu and take a look at > /etc/menu-methods/jwm as well as the other stuff related like menu.h > to see if you can improve it? I know bash scripting to some degree. I started looking at python, but had no time, so I had to quit it. My problem now is lack of time. I can help by making bootable iso files, but I really have no time to help developing the menus of ToriOS. I can test existing versions and discuss option etc, but there is no time for any scripting work. > I'd like for the menu not to say 'debian' > and have so many categories. It would be better to have a menu like > LXDE where is has only a few categories. You will also need to add .png > to the end of the icon names from the desktop file (unless they have a > full path i.e. /usr/share/pixmaps/example.xpm) > Unless we want to override all the icons and have the script look to see > if an overrided icon exists, and if so use that instead. > The icon file name doesn't have to be the full path, unless it wont be > in one of our default icon themes. > > I am only marginally capable of scripting at this point, so it would be > very helpful if you could look into this, because I think the menu and > the configurations are the 2 biggest hurdles to making jwm extremely usable. > > I am going to experiment using some icon themes, and see how it goes > I am thinking about using Moka, as it is really modern
Re: [Torios] JWM config
Update: I'm getting pretty close to being able to release this for bug testing. Some of the items in the window don't work, yet. Doesn't work: Battery Applet Network Applet Shutdown Menu Volume Control The Icon and color choosers don't work... and the Icon box isn't updated yet... However, I think this interface is a bit more clear... Let me know what you all think of the design. I added a function to restore the Panel file programatically (it is coded into the program) in case the user decides to delete .jwm or .jwm/panel This is also the 'Defaults' button's function. It simply overwrites the panel file with what I have in my program. We will need a real default panel theme/settings in order to have this permanent. Do you like the colors of the Buttons? I thought it visually helped make it clear things to the user. :D -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Torios] JWM config
2014-06-15 15:40, Israel skrev: > Update: > > I'm getting pretty close to being able to release this for bug testing. > Some of the items in the window don't work, yet. > > Doesn't work: > Battery Applet > Network Applet > Shutdown Menu > Volume Control > > The Icon and color choosers don't work... and the Icon box isn't updated > yet... > However, I think this interface is a bit more clear... > Let me know what you all think of the design. > > I added a function to restore the Panel file programatically (it is > coded into the program) > in case the user decides to delete > .jwm > or .jwm/panel > > This is also the 'Defaults' button's function. It simply overwrites the > panel file with what I have in my program. We will need a real default > panel theme/settings in order to have this permanent. > > Do you like the colors of the Buttons? I thought it visually helped > make it clear things to the user. > > :D > Hi Israel, I think it looks good except the colours. I would prefer slightly softer colours for the buttons, not fully bright red, green and yellow. The 'reset to defaults' is a good function. Best regards Nio -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Torios] JWM config
2014-06-15 21:34, Israel skrev: > On 06/15/2014 10:30 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >> 2014-06-15 15:40, Israel skrev: >>> ... >> Hi Israel, >> >> I think it looks good except the colours. I would prefer slightly softer >> colours for the buttons, not fully bright red, green and yellow. >> >> The 'reset to defaults' is a good function. >> >> Best regards >> Nio > Hi Nio, I really appreciate your feedback!! This is very helpful! > > I am prototyping the 'Settings Manager' to get ideas on how it should look. > So here is the screenshot for that. > > I changed the colors and the look of the panel config also.. Let me > know if this color scheme is better, or worse :) > > Hi Israel, The colours of the buttons are much better :-) Do you mean height and width of the meny (not two height settings) Otherwise I have no comment. Best regards Nio -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Torios] JWM config
On 06/15/2014 02:51 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > 2014-06-15 21:34, Israel skrev: >> On 06/15/2014 10:30 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: >>> 2014-06-15 15:40, Israel skrev: ... >>> Hi Israel, >>> >>> I think it looks good except the colours. I would prefer slightly softer >>> colours for the buttons, not fully bright red, green and yellow. >>> >>> The 'reset to defaults' is a good function. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Nio >> Hi Nio, I really appreciate your feedback!! This is very helpful! >> >> I am prototyping the 'Settings Manager' to get ideas on how it should look. >> So here is the screenshot for that. >> >> I changed the colors and the look of the panel config also.. Let me >> know if this color scheme is better, or worse :) >> >> > Hi Israel, > > The colours of the buttons are much better :-) > > Do you mean height and width of the meny (not two height settings) > > Otherwise I have no comment. > > Best regards > Nio Hi Nio, I was just showing you the colors... Ignore that... I was duplicating the slider, by copy and paste... when I saw your e-mail. You are seeing an unfinished picture while I was creating it. The icon is also a place holder, and the color is too... there are a few things that don't fully work yet But at least it is more visually pleasing :) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~torios Post to : torios@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~torios More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
