Re: [Torios] Hello and I am back

2014-02-09 Thread Ali Linx


On 02/09/2014 06:30 AM, dbyent...@torios.org wrote:

Hello to all my fellow ToriOS folks,
  I am back..and I am IN


Hi David,

Welcome back and great to know you're in :)



I apologize for my absence. Ali put a temp. fold on the project( and I 
appreciate why he did) and then I promptly was stricken with a 12 day 
stomach bug that had my in bed for days.

I am so sorry to know that. Hope you're feeling better now.

  This project is brand new.  All new projects experience flux until 
they find a proper balance. Let us all look to the future.

Yes, what happened had happened, no time to look back, let's move forward :)

@Ali, I will very shortly ( 2/9/14) email you in order to get from you 
the input I need to set up social media channels and whatever else 
you'd like to startperhaps the info flow would go faster and 
better if we did this over G hangouts,Jitsi,Skype, etc. instead of 
email. Anyway, whatever works best for us.
Sure, any channel ... it would be great to do voice-2-voice chat with 
you, again my friend :)


But just a quick update:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/social-media-channels

I have set this as Low Priority for now. Also, I assigned this blueprint 
to you since you're the lead of Marketing for ToriOS ;)


I can give you the access (username and password) for the 3 channels I 
have created (as discussed before) but IMHO and I could be wrong, 
without an official Logo (Rafael is working on it) I don't think it is 
good idea to do anything now but again, that is just my opinion.


Let me know what do you think.

At the moment, if you ask me, we should not worry about this much but 
rather:


https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/de-wm

And yes, I saw Israel's edit/Qs and will try to answer that ASAP.

That is why I love the blueprints. With one second, you can tell which 
task is important 'now' and which one can wait.


Let me know what do you think :)



Let's all have some fun


Fun? where? when? how? :P hehe



Abidingly,
David



Thanks a lot :)

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[Torios] Overview project members

2014-02-09 Thread Smile4ever

Hi,

Not sure why I can't update the wiki page with the contents in the txt file, 
but here you have an updated list of project members. Please include it in your 
LaTex documentation manual.

Kind regards,
Geoffrey De Belie / Smile4ever{{Languages}}
'''ToriOS''' is a user friendly, minimal and fast Linux distribution, aiming to 
replace the old Windows XP. It will be based on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. The name was 
inspired by Tori (鳥), which means Bird in Japanese. Bird is a symbol for 
freedom, which this project is all about.

* Main website: [http://torios.org torios.org]
* ToriOS Project: [https://launchpad.net/torios Launchpad - ToriOS Project]
* Meet ToriOS: [http://amjjawad.blogspot.be/2014/01/meet-torios.html Meet 
ToriOS]

== Team ==
Members of the [https://launchpad.net/~torios ToriOS team] include:
* [http://amjjawad.blogspot.be Ali Linx], [http://launchpad.net/~amjjawad 
amjjawad] (project leader, forum administrator)
* William, [https://launchpad.net/~wjckc79 wjckc79] (website administrator, 
forum administrator)
* Mélodie, [https://launchpad.net/~meets meets] (developer lead/driver)
* Paul, [https://launchpad.net/~zleap zleap]
* Geoffrey, [http://launchpad.net/~computergeoffrey Smile4ever] (
* Jack, [https://launchpad.net/~f-jack f-jack] (QA lead/testing driver)
* David, [https://launchpad.net/~dbyentzen dbyentzen] (Marketing Lead/Driver)
* Others: see [https://launchpad.net/~torios/+members#active active members]

There is a [https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/torios-team-structure 
blueprint] about the team structure. Feel free to propose something new or step 
up yourself.

This team uses the [https://lists.launchpad.net/torios/ mailing list], provided 
by Launchpad.

== Wiki help ==
* [[Help:Contents]]

[[Category:Main]]

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Re: [Torios] Overview project members

2014-02-09 Thread Ali Linx


On 02/09/2014 02:02 PM, Smile4ever wrote:

Hi,

Not sure why I can't update the wiki page with the contents in the txt file, 
but here you have an updated list of project members. Please include it in your 
LaTex documentation manual.

Kind regards,
Geoffrey De Belie / Smile4ever




Hi,

Melodie is no longer part of ToriOS so please update the list.

The latest member list can be found here:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/torios-team-structure

Thank you!

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[Torios] Contact Email

2014-02-09 Thread Ali Linx

Hi Everyone,

I'm having very hard and tough time with lots of emails. I think I am 
receiving daily more than 100 emails and my inbox is a real mess. That 
said, I decided to stop using 'amjja...@gmail.com' for ToriOS and this 
is my email that will be used for anything related to ToriOS Project:


amjja...@torios.org

Kindly update your Contact List and save this one and please don't send 
me on the old one.


I am also thinking to use a different machine for ToriOS and other 
projects like StartUbuntu because it is getting harder for me to handle 
many projects on one machine.


Thank you so much :)

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Re: [Torios] Hello and I am back

2014-02-09 Thread dbyentzen

On 2014-02-09 05:02, Ali Linx wrote:

On 02/09/2014 06:30 AM, dbyent...@torios.org wrote:

Hello to all my fellow ToriOS folks,
  I am back..and I am IN


Hi David,

Welcome back and great to know you're in :)



I apologize for my absence. Ali put a temp. fold on the project( and I 
appreciate why he did) and then I promptly was stricken with a 12 day 
stomach bug that had my in bed for days.

I am so sorry to know that. Hope you're feeling better now.

  This project is brand new.  All new projects experience flux until 
they find a proper balance. Let us all look to the future.
Yes, what happened had happened, no time to look back, let's move 
forward :)


@Ali, I will very shortly ( 2/9/14) email you in order to get from you 
the input I need to set up social media channels and whatever else 
you'd like to startperhaps the info flow would go faster and 
better if we did this over G hangouts,Jitsi,Skype, etc. instead of 
email. Anyway, whatever works best for us.

Sure, any channel ... it would be great to do voice-2-voice chat with
you, again my friend :)

But just a quick update:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/social-media-channels

I have set this as Low Priority for now. Also, I assigned this
blueprint to you since you're the lead of Marketing for ToriOS ;)

I can give you the access (username and password) for the 3 channels I
have created (as discussed before) but IMHO and I could be wrong,
without an official Logo (Rafael is working on it) I don't think it is
good idea to do anything now but again, that is just my opinion.

Let me know what do you think.

At the moment, if you ask me, we should not worry about this much but 
rather:


https://blueprints.launchpad.net/torios/+spec/de-wm

And yes, I saw Israel's edit/Qs and will try to answer that ASAP.

That is why I love the blueprints. With one second, you can tell which
task is important 'now' and which one can wait.

Let me know what do you think :)



Let's all have some fun


Fun? where? when? how? :P hehe



Abidingly,
David



Thanks a lot :)


Great, Thanks for the reply.  I will attend to the blueprints today. I 
agree with you, as I previously stated, we should have all of the ToriOS 
branding( website, logo, artwork, etc...) established before we open up 
and push forward with the social media accts. I think it prudent to go 
ahead and establish the social media accts now( as you have done).
I will wait for the "okay-everything is ready" signal and then proceed 
with starting social media.  I will need:

1. the ToriOS website
2. the ToriOS forum website
3. and all other "contact us" and "how to participate" info. prior to 
starting


I will update the blueprint to reflect this.

Abidingly,
David

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[Torios] Website Contact, Community, Join, etc...

2014-02-09 Thread Israel
Hi all, I recently added placeholder pages for those items in the site 
navigation bar...

Now I am wondering what those pages should be.
I am wondering if the *Community* page will be a hub for all the 
different ways to interact and get involved.  Will it have the launchpad 
stuff, the mailing list, the G+, the Ubuntu Forums page, Ali's blog, a 
link to the IRC channel, etc?
Is there a specific framework as to what I can put in there yet, or is 
this something that simply needs to be a place holder until we decide.


The*Join* page, seems to me that it could simply be removed and the 
Community page could work to have both things


*Contact*
So, this page will be 1 of a few things (in my mind)
1.  It will be a php/JavaScript form that someone fills in and 'Submits' 
and it e-mails the appropriate 'department' based on what the choose out 
of a drop down list.
2.  Links to various e-mail/forum/IRC/etc...  though leaving an e-mail 
link is not always the most advisable.

3. Some sort of comment page (though a forum is already this area.

It seems that it may be nice to simply link to the IRC channel, and 
forums as we could avoid having a lot of e-mail traffic, though someone 
would have to be a forum moderator and read virtually everything that is 
posted, etc..  Though a community could take care of most of the Issues 
people have without need of the core team devoting time to that.


Any feedback you have would be appreciated.
I have updated the page a bit more (some of it superficial, some of it 
content.. mainly the Downloads section...)


OH, and *News*.
Ali, if you want to e-mail me the news in plain text, or whatever you 
like I will add it to the site.  I think this will be a good simple way 
to do things for the time being.  If we need to involve WP (or Drupal, 
etc...) we can in the future and tailor the news page to be the only 
place that uses WP, so the rest of the site can remain lighter.
I will Update the News page to have a few more things, and we could 
possibly add some sort of way to update the content through a php form, 
like WP, but that is of course something that is not pressing.  Simply 
getting news updates will be enough at this point.


(sorry this is so long)
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[Torios] [Blueprint de-wm] DE (Desktop Enviroment)/WM (Window Manager) for ToriOS

2014-02-09 Thread amjjawad
Blueprint changed by amjjawad:

Whiteboard changed:
  [f-jack]Could we do xfce?
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  
  [Brian Kanto] As I understand it, the goal is to replace XP.. Though, I do 
not think the goal is a near duplicate, like zoran, it shoud have some points 
that make XP users feel comfortable.  Xfce can do this, but it is not that 
light. I have not used much stuff lighter than Lxde, but I belive open box can 
be made to look similar and be lighter on the resources. So, I guess, it comes 
to how light we want it. A few Xp computers, have only 128MB. That would be 
tough on XP. My friends over at Bodhi, chose enightenment. It is well done, but 
seemed a bit closed for me. I would love to hear from some openbox experts.
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  
  [israeldahl] if we use openbox, there NEEDS to be a GUI to configure the 
rc.xml file.
  I am thinking specifically of the keyboard.  gdialog/bash could work for this 
(like Puppy does for JWM)  It might be nice to do an all-in-one sort of 
configuration window, like the XP control panel.  Or course anyone who is 
really good at C++ could chime in!
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  
  [tausif-0593] I would suggest enlightenment 17/18; e17 is a solid choice 
given that Bodhi linux has a non-pae iso with e17 specifically. I have not 
explored e18 but it definitely seems to be a build on e17 with alot of 
enhancements. But if we do end up with openbox, it would be quite an 
interesting trip given that it is very possible to have nice looking ui.
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  
  [Mélodie] Hi, it will be Openbox, at least as long as I dedicate myself
  to make the first ISO(s) which will be available for testing and
  modifying soon.
  
  Ali: I would not want to bring systematic contradiction to you, however,
  if you don't want any component from Lxde I'll be out, because there are
  at least two of them which I have always used, if not a few more.
  
  They are only a few components which are standalone and don't need
  depends. We are not going to invent again the wheel, as they say. Some
  items are very handy and not heavy at all.
  
  The main tool I use in Openbox environments, is one which allows having
  a very easy to use Openbox desktop. It relies precisely on a lib
  provided by the Lxde project. ;)
  
  israeldahl: this is what obconf does. It modifies rc.xml. Other gui
  tools are also available for shortcuts and for menu.xml. They are not
  recent, however it seems they still work. And we would need some new
  tools. I will provide a todo on the mailing list once the first ISO will
  be made available.
  
  One big advantage with Openbox apart from it's lightness and numerous 
available tools provided for it by the community, is that it is quite versatile 
and allows changing to other desktops of your like easily.
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  
  [israeldahl] Hi, my main concern is the Keyboard Shortcuts.  There is 
currently no GUI I know of to edit ALL the rc.xml, only the one you spoke of 
that handles MOST of the xml file.  I agree that Openbox is a great choice, as 
it can incorporate many different things (tint2, awn, docky, cairo, 
gnome-panel, xfce panel, and of course lxpanel) and can be highly 
customized.
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  
  [Mélodie] israeldaht: for keyboard shortcuts some tools exist as gui
  frontend.
  
  http://code.google.com/p/obkey/
  http://lambda.host22.com/?page=keybinder
  
  Almost all the gui tools built around Openbox are aging, not updated, and 
written in different languages, which when used need to install depends which 
will make Openbox less light. In the meanwhile some new tools also started to 
be worked on more recently.
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  
  [zleap] With regard to no cli, will it be easy to be able to switch between 
boot into cli and gui,  it used to be a case of just editing inittab then the 
line
  initdefault:3 for cli or initdefault:5 for gui
  
  Sometimes being able to set things to always boot in to the cli is useful. 
Maybe there should be a small tool written to do this.
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  
  [amjjawad] It is almost one month for this discussion and we haven't yet 
decided what DE/WM we shall use?
  Well, in order to keep everything as planned for

[Torios] [Blueprint de-wm] DE (Desktop Enviroment)/WM (Window Manager) for ToriOS

2014-02-09 Thread Israel Dahl
Blueprint changed by Israel Dahl:

Whiteboard changed:
  [f-jack]Could we do xfce?
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  
  [Brian Kanto] As I understand it, the goal is to replace XP.. Though, I do 
not think the goal is a near duplicate, like zoran, it shoud have some points 
that make XP users feel comfortable.  Xfce can do this, but it is not that 
light. I have not used much stuff lighter than Lxde, but I belive open box can 
be made to look similar and be lighter on the resources. So, I guess, it comes 
to how light we want it. A few Xp computers, have only 128MB. That would be 
tough on XP. My friends over at Bodhi, chose enightenment. It is well done, but 
seemed a bit closed for me. I would love to hear from some openbox experts.
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  
  [israeldahl] if we use openbox, there NEEDS to be a GUI to configure the 
rc.xml file.
  I am thinking specifically of the keyboard.  gdialog/bash could work for this 
(like Puppy does for JWM)  It might be nice to do an all-in-one sort of 
configuration window, like the XP control panel.  Or course anyone who is 
really good at C++ could chime in!
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  
  [tausif-0593] I would suggest enlightenment 17/18; e17 is a solid choice 
given that Bodhi linux has a non-pae iso with e17 specifically. I have not 
explored e18 but it definitely seems to be a build on e17 with alot of 
enhancements. But if we do end up with openbox, it would be quite an 
interesting trip given that it is very possible to have nice looking ui.
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  
  [Mélodie] Hi, it will be Openbox, at least as long as I dedicate myself
  to make the first ISO(s) which will be available for testing and
  modifying soon.
  
  Ali: I would not want to bring systematic contradiction to you, however,
  if you don't want any component from Lxde I'll be out, because there are
  at least two of them which I have always used, if not a few more.
  
  They are only a few components which are standalone and don't need
  depends. We are not going to invent again the wheel, as they say. Some
  items are very handy and not heavy at all.
  
  The main tool I use in Openbox environments, is one which allows having
  a very easy to use Openbox desktop. It relies precisely on a lib
  provided by the Lxde project. ;)
  
  israeldahl: this is what obconf does. It modifies rc.xml. Other gui
  tools are also available for shortcuts and for menu.xml. They are not
  recent, however it seems they still work. And we would need some new
  tools. I will provide a todo on the mailing list once the first ISO will
  be made available.
  
  One big advantage with Openbox apart from it's lightness and numerous 
available tools provided for it by the community, is that it is quite versatile 
and allows changing to other desktops of your like easily.
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  
  [israeldahl] Hi, my main concern is the Keyboard Shortcuts.  There is 
currently no GUI I know of to edit ALL the rc.xml, only the one you spoke of 
that handles MOST of the xml file.  I agree that Openbox is a great choice, as 
it can incorporate many different things (tint2, awn, docky, cairo, 
gnome-panel, xfce panel, and of course lxpanel) and can be highly 
customized.
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  
  [Mélodie] israeldaht: for keyboard shortcuts some tools exist as gui
  frontend.
  
  http://code.google.com/p/obkey/
  http://lambda.host22.com/?page=keybinder
  
  Almost all the gui tools built around Openbox are aging, not updated, and 
written in different languages, which when used need to install depends which 
will make Openbox less light. In the meanwhile some new tools also started to 
be worked on more recently.
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  
  [zleap] With regard to no cli, will it be easy to be able to switch between 
boot into cli and gui,  it used to be a case of just editing inittab then the 
line
  initdefault:3 for cli or initdefault:5 for gui
  
  Sometimes being able to set things to always boot in to the cli is useful. 
Maybe there should be a small tool written to do this.
  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  
  [amjjawad] It is almost one month for this discussion and we haven't yet 
decided what DE/WM we shall use?
  Well, in order to keep everything as planned