Re: [tor-talk] Neal Krawetz's abcission proposal, and Tor's reputation

2017-09-02 Thread grarpamp
Always wonder if the non-tunnelled finite tor-TCP semantic
and architecture is limiting factor to application development.
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Re: [tor-talk] Tor users in US up by nearly 100,000 this month

2017-09-02 Thread Ryan Carboni
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebookcorewwwi.onion

I find it hard to believe that you cannot make use of any informal
relationships to make a meatspace query on valid Tor usage estimates.
People do not exist in isolation, and this meme that no private sector
individual has knowledge on Tor ignores that Tor's often outdated
documentation itself makes RTFM invalid.
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Re: [tor-talk] Tor users in US up by nearly 100,000 this month

2017-09-02 Thread Seth David Schoen
Roger Dingledine writes:

> Asking Cloudflare how many people are deciding to solve their captchas
> today is measuring a different thing -- if I try to load a news article,
> see a cloudflare captcha, and say "aw, fuck cloudflare, oh well" and
> move on, am I a bot?

I'm just figuring that you can get useful relative rather than absolute
metrics if you assume that people's tendency to do this is relatively
stable across time and across user populations.  So you don't know how
many of the non-solvers are bots, but you can say that the solvers are
up 10% this month or something, which perhaps then suggests that non-bot
Tor users are up about 10% this month.

This still wouldn't reveal whether 60% or 95% of the non-solvers are
bots.

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