Re: [tor-talk] Privacy friendly external RSS reader for Linux?

2012-10-29 Thread Jan Reister
Perhaps http://tt-rss.org

Jan

Il 27/10/2012 20:21, adrelanos ha scritto:
> Are there any privacy friendly RSS readers for Linux?
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Re: [tor-talk] (no subject)

2012-10-29 Thread Daman
I have tor bundle version  2.2.39-3 and I understand that 2.2.39-4 was
recently released. I wanted to know how to go about updating to the
new version. Will I mess anything up if I just download the new
version and replace the old or should I uninstall the old completely
then re-download the tor bundle again. Please help as I love the tor
project and I don't want to corrupt the file and I'd like to continue
surfing safely. Please help.


Kind Regards


D...
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Re: [tor-talk] (no subject)

2012-10-29 Thread andrew
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 07:00:11AM -0500, daman8...@gmail.com wrote 0.6K bytes 
in 17 lines about:
: I have tor bundle version  2.2.39-3 and I understand that 2.2.39-4 was
: recently released. I wanted to know how to go about updating to the
: new version. Will I mess anything up if I just download the new

Just delete the old directory and extract the new.

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Re: [tor-talk] (no subject)

2012-10-29 Thread Daman

Thnx for responding so quickly!... To make sure I understand perfectly well and 
don't screw anything up!... I delete the ENTIRE tor bundle file off my computer 
the just download and extract new one and DO NOT just download new file on top 
of old one!... Is that correct! Thanks again for ur help!...

On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:07 AM, and...@torproject.is wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 07:00:11AM -0500, daman8...@gmail.com wrote 0.6K 
> bytes in 17 lines about:
> : I have tor bundle version  2.2.39-3 and I understand that 2.2.39-4 was
> : recently released. I wanted to know how to go about updating to the
> : new version. Will I mess anything up if I just download the new
> 
> Just delete the old directory and extract the new.
> 
> -- 
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Re: [tor-talk] exit node cache

2012-10-29 Thread jiang song
>
> The second one is much closer to reality. :-) The exit nodes stops
> reading from the connection to the web server when it can't forward
> the data to the client fast enough.
>
> But the web server isn't slowed down/stopped by not sending ACKs but
> rather by reducing the window size to zero. ACKs are still sent as
> data is received (moduly shortly delaying acks for other reasons).
> This is all done within the TCP stack which does all this ACK and
> window size stuff; the tor process just reads from the socket.
>
>

after reading some articles, my thought is:
for example, if you are watching youtube html5 videos using firefox, the
webserver will continue sending packets.
There is no server-side rate control, unless there is congestion inbetween,
in this case the firefox browser client will
delay or not send ack to the web server and so the web server will decrease
its congestion window size due to ack timeout,
and thus the sending rate is throttled.

In the case of tor exit node, I think If the exit node continues to send
ack to the webserver when its buffer is already full,
the webserver will continue to send packets to the exit node, then what
will happen? I think the exit node will disgard the packet
and never send ack, so in this way, the webserver will reduce its
congestion window and reduce the sending rate
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[tor-talk] Tor web browsing http connection establish procedures

2012-10-29 Thread jiang song
for web browsing I'm a bit curious about the http connection establishment
 without tor, when we access a website, the procedures are:

   DNS query :C ->
DNS server
   DNS response:DNS
server -> C
   the client initiate a TCP 3-way  handshake:C<-> Webserver
   HTTP GET:  C->
Webserver

but with tor, my understanding and questions are:

   DNS query :C -> TOR network -> exit node ->
DNS server
   DNS response:DNS server -> exit node

   at this moment, should the exit node return the DNS query to the
Tor browser client?
   and then of course, the client can't establish TCP connection
with the webserver, it is the tor exit node who establishes the tcp
connection with the webserver,
   but will the client initiate the 3-way handshake or not?  if so,
how is the process?
   without TOR, I think the the end of 3-way handshake will trigger
that the client send the HTTP GET
   with TOR, what will trigger the sending of  HTTP GET?
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Re: [tor-talk] Questions on latest linux torbundle

2012-10-29 Thread tarbaby
Can anybody speak to these issues please? Thanks alot.

> Hello Tortians and thanks for this interesting software.
> 
> I am testing out the latest linux torbundle. I have a few questions on this.
> If I change the firefox homepage to about:blank and select "when tor browser
> starts display a blank page" it gets reset after I run the start-tor-browser
> script a few times. Isn't this bad for anonymity because going to the same
> home page every time is a nice fat bullseye to be able to correlate a
> webpage of known size with every tor startup. Why are these settings being
> overridden and is this a problem?
> 
> Noscript 2.5.8 that comes in the torbundle. In the Noscript options-advanced
> tab-do not filter objects coming from these sites, it seems impossible to
> remove .hulu.com and .youtube.com. Isn't this bad because youtube is
> embedded on nearly every site and isn't this an attack vector? I don't want
> youtube enabled. I don't want anything permitted by default and I changed
> noscript settings but they keep getting reset.
> 

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[tor-talk] Download speed

2012-10-29 Thread Junior Jr
When I use the Tor Browser Bundle and will download a file my speed can reach 
300 or 400 kb. I think something is wrong, because that is the speed of a 
normal connection. It is normal to download at a rate so high? Something is 
wrong?

OBS: Im from the latins and i use google translator. Forgive my poor english.
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Re: [tor-talk] Download speed

2012-10-29 Thread Greg Norcie
It can depend on your exit node (and the path leading to said exit 
node.)

Can you visit https://check.torproject.org/ and see if it says you are 
using Tor?

If it says you are using Tor, you probably just have a rather good 
connection.
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GPG key: 0x1B873635

On Mon Oct 29 13:50:23 2012, Junior Jr wrote:
> When I use the Tor Browser Bundle and will download a file my speed can reach 
> 300 or 400 kb. I think something is wrong, because that is the speed of a 
> normal connection. It is normal to download at a rate so high? Something is 
> wrong?
>
> OBS: Im from the latins and i use google translator. Forgive my poor english.
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[tor-talk] Tor on Plug PC running Arch

2012-10-29 Thread Chris
Hello,

I'm trying to get Tor running on a plug computer (used to be a Pogo
Plug) that's running Arch Linux ARM on it. I'm SSH-ing to it from my
laptop as it doesn't have video out.

I'm just having some trouble figuring this out. Here's what I'm using
for instructions: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tor

whenever I enter "# /etc/rc.d/tor start" I just get a busy signal.

I'd like to run a bridge relay, or contribute in whatever way I can.

It would be awesome if you could help.

Thanks,
Chris


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Re: [tor-talk] Tor on Plug PC running Arch

2012-10-29 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:38:56 -0500
Chris  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying to get Tor running on a plug computer (used to be a Pogo
> Plug) that's running Arch Linux ARM on it. I'm SSH-ing to it from my
> laptop as it doesn't have video out.
> 
> I'm just having some trouble figuring this out. Here's what I'm using
> for instructions: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tor
> 
> whenever I enter "# /etc/rc.d/tor start" I just get a busy signal.

Can you copy-paste what messages do you get. What do you mean by a "busy
signal"? Is this on a telephone? :)

Also how much RAM does your Plug computer have? As far as I know some
Pogoplugs had only 128 MB of RAM, and that might be a bit small for Tor (but
could be just enough since you aren't going to push a lot of traffic with that
CPU anyway).

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with code he could not see.
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Re: [tor-talk] exit node cache

2012-10-29 Thread Andreas Krey
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:10:00 +, jiang song wrote:
...
> There is no server-side rate control, unless there is congestion inbetween,
> in this case the firefox browser client will
> delay or not send ack to the web server and so the web server will decrease
> its congestion window size due to ack timeout,
> and thus the sending rate is throttled.

Please read up on the TCP header field 'window size'. The receiver
can ACK received packets and at the same time tell the sending side
"I don't have space for more data, please hold".

Andreas

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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 07:29:21 -0800
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