[tor-talk] Tor virus
I am from Ethiopia. The problem faced by descendants in Ethiopia is many fold. 90 million people, a brutal repressive government by any standard, a single government owned ISP that has more government spies than actual telecommunication workers, a very poor and limited mobile and data infrastructure and sophisticated snooping ( https://blog.torproject.org/blog/ethiopia-introduces-deep-packet-inspection) regime. Certainly tor could benefit many people if it could be used widely. But with all the above problems how? And it just occurred to me!! I am not a coder so I don't know if it is possible. I am not certain what ethical questions it could raise or if it should at all under the above circumstance. Most of the PCs in the country are in government offices or given to government workers. And most of this PCs are the only once that has a relatively fast and free Internet access. Some thing that is common about all this PCs is that most of them are full of virus and Trojan horses (some say Chinese origin). Even state minsters offices. I am sure by now you are guessing where I am going with this. What if there is a tor "virus" (pardon for the choice of word) that can infect such pc and make a relay, bridge, or what ever on the background undetected. I have a feeling that if it were a smart idea some one would have thought of it but I could not sleep until I know how stupid an idea it is. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
[tor-talk] tor virus
I am from Ethiopia. The problem faced by descendants in Ethiopia is many fold. 90 million people, a brutal repressive government by any standard, a single government owned ISP that has more government spies than actual telecommunication workers, a very poor and limited mobile and data infrastructure and sophisticated snooping ( https://blog.torproject.org/blog/ethiopia-introduces-deep-packet-inspection) regime. Certainly tor could benefit many people if it could be used "widely". But with all the above problems how? And it just occurred to me!! I am not a coder so I don't know if it is possible. I am not certain what ethical questions it could raise or if it should at all under the above circumstance. Most of the PCs in the country are in government offices or given to government workers. And most of this PCs are the only once that has a relatively fast and free Internet access. Some thing that is common about all this PCs is that most of them are full of virus and Trojan horses (some say Chinese origin). Even state minsters offices. I am sure by now you are guessing where I am going with this. What if there is a tor "virus" (pardon for the choice of word) that can infect such pc and make a relay, bridge, or what ever on the background undetected. Or that could be installed by some one and stay hidden and do it's job. I have a feeling that if it were a smart idea some one would have thought of it but I could not sleep until I know how stupid an idea it is. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Tor virus
The Basic Problem, that I see here, is that, if they have surveillance covering everything, they will probably also have access to and monitor whats going on on these PCs, locally. So putting Tor on these is not going to help. To the contrary, it might make things even worse for people using a torified machine. -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. ethio tor schrieb: I am from Ethiopia. The problem faced by descendants in Ethiopia is many fold. 90 million people, a brutal repressive government by any standard, a single government owned ISP that has more government spies than actual telecommunication workers, a very poor and limited mobile and data infrastructure and sophisticated snooping ( https://blog.torproject.org/blog/ethiopia-introduces-deep-packet-inspection) regime. Certainly tor could benefit many people if it could be used widely. But with all the above problems how? And it just occurred to me!! I am not a coder so I don't know if it is possible. I am not certain what ethical questions it could raise or if it should at all under the above circumstance. Most of the PCs in the country are in government offices or given to government workers. And most of this PCs are the only once that has a relatively fast and free Internet access. Some thing that is common about all this PCs is that most of them are full of virus and Trojan horses (some say Chinese origin). Even state minsters offices. I am sure by now you are guessing where I am going with this. What if there is a tor "virus" (pardon for the choice of word) that can infect such pc and make a relay, bridge, or what ever on the background undetected. I have a feeling that if it were a smart idea some one would have thought of it but I could not sleep until I know how stupid an idea it is. _ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Tor virus
You could start spreading tools like Tails that allow people to communicate safely in a hostile environment. https://tails.boum.org/ Tails can auto-replicate himself. Is it possible to connect to Tor from Ethiopia ? Is there any blocking strategy ? HardKor On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Julian Wissmann wrote: > The Basic Problem, that I see here, is that, if they have surveillance > covering everything, they will probably also have access to and monitor > whats going on on these PCs, locally. So putting Tor on these is not going > to help. To the contrary, it might make things even worse for people using > a torified machine. > -- > Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail > gesendet. > > > > ethio tor schrieb: > > I am from Ethiopia. The problem faced by descendants in Ethiopia is many > fold. 90 million people, a brutal repressive government by any standard, a > single government owned ISP that has more government spies than actual > telecommunication workers, a very poor and limited mobile and data > infrastructure and sophisticated snooping ( > https://blog.torproject.org/blog/ethiopia-introduces-deep-packet-inspection > ) > regime. Certainly tor could benefit many people if it could be used widely. > But with all the above problems how? And it just occurred to me!! > > I am not a coder so I don't know if it is possible. I am not certain what > ethical questions it could raise or if it should at all under the above > circumstance. > > Most of the PCs in the country are in government offices or given to > government workers. And most of this PCs are the only once that has a > relatively fast and free Internet access. Some thing that is common about > all this PCs is that most of them are full of virus and Trojan horses (some > say Chinese origin). Even state minsters offices. I am sure by now you are > guessing where I am going with this. > > What if there is a tor "virus" (pardon for the choice of word) that can > infect such pc and make a relay, bridge, or what ever on the background > undetected. > > I have a feeling that if it were a smart idea some one would have thought > of it but I could not sleep until I know how stupid an idea it is. > _ > > tor-talk mailing list > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > ___ > tor-talk mailing list > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
[tor-talk] TAILS server?
hello! i would like a tails that can be installed as minimal webserver configured for hidden service delivery. no need for careful security configuration, but ready to go from the box. is there anything close now? -- Jerzy Łogiewa -- jerz...@interia.eu ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk