[tor-talk] Tor virus

2012-08-13 Thread ethio tor
I am from Ethiopia. The problem faced by descendants in Ethiopia is many
fold. 90 million people, a brutal repressive government by any standard, a
single government owned ISP that has more  government spies  than actual
telecommunication workers, a very poor and limited mobile and data
infrastructure and sophisticated snooping (
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/ethiopia-introduces-deep-packet-inspection)
regime. Certainly tor could benefit many people if it could be used widely.
But with all the above problems how? And it just occurred to me!!

I am not a coder so I don't know if it is possible. I am not certain what
ethical questions it could raise or if it should at all under the above
circumstance.

Most of the PCs in the country are in government offices or given to
government workers. And most of this PCs are the only once that has a
relatively fast and free Internet access. Some thing that is common about
all this PCs is that most of them are full of virus and Trojan horses (some
say Chinese origin). Even state minsters offices. I am sure by now you are
guessing where I am going with this.

What if there is a tor "virus" (pardon for the choice of word) that can
infect such pc and make a relay, bridge, or what ever on the background
undetected.

I have a feeling that if it were a smart idea some one would have thought
of it but I could not sleep until I know how stupid an idea it is.
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[tor-talk] tor virus

2012-08-13 Thread ethio tor
I am from Ethiopia. The problem faced by descendants in Ethiopia is many
fold. 90 million people, a brutal repressive government by any standard, a
single government owned ISP that has more  government spies  than actual
telecommunication workers, a very poor and limited mobile and data
infrastructure and sophisticated snooping (
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/ethiopia-introduces-deep-packet-inspection)
regime. Certainly tor could benefit many people if it could be used
"widely". But with all the above problems how? And it just occurred to me!!

I am not a coder so I don't know if it is possible. I am not certain what
ethical questions it could raise or if it should at all under the above
circumstance.

Most of the PCs in the country are in government offices or given to
government workers. And most of this PCs are the only once that has a
relatively fast and free Internet access. Some thing that is common about
all this PCs is that most of them are full of virus and Trojan horses (some
say Chinese origin). Even state minsters offices. I am sure by now you are
guessing where I am going with this.

What if there is a tor "virus" (pardon for the choice of word) that can
infect such pc and make a relay, bridge, or what ever on the background
undetected. Or that could be installed by some one and stay hidden and do
it's job.

I have a feeling that if it were a smart idea some one would have thought
of it but I could not sleep until I know how stupid an idea it is.
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Re: [tor-talk] Tor virus

2012-08-13 Thread Julian Wissmann
The Basic Problem, that I see here, is that, if they have surveillance covering 
everything, they will probably also have access to and monitor whats going on 
on these PCs, locally. So putting Tor on these is not going to help. To the 
contrary, it might make things even worse for people using a torified machine.
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ethio tor  schrieb:

I am from Ethiopia. The problem faced by descendants in Ethiopia is many
fold. 90 million people, a brutal repressive government by any standard, a
single government owned ISP that has more government spies than actual
telecommunication workers, a very poor and limited mobile and data
infrastructure and sophisticated snooping (
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/ethiopia-introduces-deep-packet-inspection)
regime. Certainly tor could benefit many people if it could be used widely.
But with all the above problems how? And it just occurred to me!!

I am not a coder so I don't know if it is possible. I am not certain what
ethical questions it could raise or if it should at all under the above
circumstance.

Most of the PCs in the country are in government offices or given to
government workers. And most of this PCs are the only once that has a
relatively fast and free Internet access. Some thing that is common about
all this PCs is that most of them are full of virus and Trojan horses (some
say Chinese origin). Even state minsters offices. I am sure by now you are
guessing where I am going with this.

What if there is a tor "virus" (pardon for the choice of word) that can
infect such pc and make a relay, bridge, or what ever on the background
undetected.

I have a feeling that if it were a smart idea some one would have thought
of it but I could not sleep until I know how stupid an idea it is.
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Re: [tor-talk] Tor virus

2012-08-13 Thread HardKor
You could start spreading tools like Tails that allow people to communicate
safely in a hostile environment.

https://tails.boum.org/

Tails can auto-replicate himself.
Is it possible to connect to Tor from Ethiopia ? Is there any blocking
strategy ?

HardKor

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Julian Wissmann  wrote:

> The Basic Problem, that I see here, is that, if they have surveillance
> covering everything, they will probably also have access to and monitor
> whats going on on these PCs, locally. So putting Tor on these is not going
> to help. To the contrary, it might make things even worse for people using
> a torified machine.
> --
> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail
> gesendet.
>
>
>
> ethio tor  schrieb:
>
> I am from Ethiopia. The problem faced by descendants in Ethiopia is many
> fold. 90 million people, a brutal repressive government by any standard, a
> single government owned ISP that has more government spies than actual
> telecommunication workers, a very poor and limited mobile and data
> infrastructure and sophisticated snooping (
> https://blog.torproject.org/blog/ethiopia-introduces-deep-packet-inspection
> )
> regime. Certainly tor could benefit many people if it could be used widely.
> But with all the above problems how? And it just occurred to me!!
>
> I am not a coder so I don't know if it is possible. I am not certain what
> ethical questions it could raise or if it should at all under the above
> circumstance.
>
> Most of the PCs in the country are in government offices or given to
> government workers. And most of this PCs are the only once that has a
> relatively fast and free Internet access. Some thing that is common about
> all this PCs is that most of them are full of virus and Trojan horses (some
> say Chinese origin). Even state minsters offices. I am sure by now you are
> guessing where I am going with this.
>
> What if there is a tor "virus" (pardon for the choice of word) that can
> infect such pc and make a relay, bridge, or what ever on the background
> undetected.
>
> I have a feeling that if it were a smart idea some one would have thought
> of it but I could not sleep until I know how stupid an idea it is.
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[tor-talk] TAILS server?

2012-08-13 Thread Jerzy Łogiewa
hello!

i would like a tails that can be installed as minimal webserver configured for 
hidden service delivery.

no need for careful security configuration, but ready to go from the box.

is there anything close now?

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