Re: [tor-talk] Is there Tor Browser Bundle with FireFox 3.x?
- Original Message - From: Roger Dingledine Sent: 09/27/11 05:11 AM To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Is there Tor Browser Bundle with FireFox 3.x? On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 01:55:06AM +0400, ? ? wrote: > Hello! > > I have really carefully looked through torproject.org but couldn't found any links to download old version of Tor Browser Bundle with FireFox 3.x > > Is there any of it? You might like https://archive.torproject.org/tor-package-archive/torbrowser/ But really, the answer is that Firefox 3.x is increasingly going to have privacy and security problems that nobody fixes. Bundling it would be irresponsible (and a waste of our limited packaging resources). --Roger Does this mean that I cannot go to any new versions of the Vidalia Bundle for Mac? I have a Power Mac, 10.5.8 and FF 4 will not work on it so I'm stuck with FF verion 3. something. I take it this risks my anonymity big time, yes? I need a new Mac and cannot afford one. Sigh. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] blutmagie exits shut down
Am 27.09.2011 00:36, schrieb William Wrightman: > > May I ask how much the traffic was costing you? a payed 15 euros/month for 2U 19" rack space, electrical power/cooling, and an unmetered GigE switch port. @all: thx for the flowers ;-) I'll try to keep my network status site up as long as possible. Its average traffic is only about 1 MBit/s. regards, Olaf ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] Fw: Hotmail with Tor [is their a solution!?]
--- On Mon, 9/26/11, Mike Perry wrote: > From: Mike Perry > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Fw: Hotmail with Tor [is their a solution!?] > To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > Date: Monday, September 26, 2011, 5:18 PM > Thus spake William Wrightman (williamwright...@yahoo.com): > > > I just checked today and it's still not possible to > use Tor with > > Hotmail. > > > > Does anyone (Andrew, Roger, Mike, etc) know why this > is happening? > > > > I realise we cannot expect immediate solutions but I > would like to > > know what the problem is even if there is no immediate > work-around. > > We cannot safely fix this issue for Torbutton. You must use > Tor > Browser to access hotmail safely. > > See https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/3580 > for details > on how to use hotmail with Torbutton unsafely, if you > insist on using > Torbutton with regular Firefox. > > Otherwise, download Tor Browser: > https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser > > Thank you for this advice. My questions are: 1. An individual is using Tor, NoScript, HTTPS-Everywhere, Better Privacy, and has no Java, with Flash disabled, and then securely deletes his places.sqlite, cookies.sqlite, etc, files after each session finishes. Forgive the stupid question but in this case why would TorButton actually be required (for any website)? 2. This is also probably a dumb question. In the https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/3580 ioerror wrote: "Perhaps it would be useful to email the Hotmail security team and let them know that this isn't going to work very well for people who need security and privacy through anonymity?" Is this something that would ever be done or considered worthwhile? Do owners / operators of websites like Hotmail for example care what you have to say or do you just assume they will ignore you so do not bother to contact them? Thanks again! > -- > Mike Perry > Mad Computer Scientist > fscked.org evil labs > > -Inline Attachment Follows- > > ___ > tor-talk mailing list > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] blutmagie exits shut down
It is very pitty. Thank you for your maintaining those exits! On 26.09.2011 21:25, Olaf Selke wrote: > My fellow citizens, > > today blutmagie exits nodes ceased operation. > > My special hosting contract providing cheap traffic has been canceled > cause I'm no longer with Telefónica Germany. Trouble with feds, police, > or the content industry is certainly not the reason. It's only a > question of money to pay traffic market price I can't afford. > Nevertheless many thx to Telefónica for providing excellent network > services in the last four years. > > regards Olaf > ___ > tor-talk mailing list > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
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hello friends... I was reading about Node Guards here : https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#EntryGuards SO Entry Guards can limit or stop the attacker from the document above... But i still have some inquires: how to get the entry guards??? and to set an entry guard does it mean to use always the same entry node each time i want to connect to ToR Thx. ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] blutmagie exits shut down
Am 27.09.2011 14:30, schrieb Julie C: > > So if I sent you 150 euros, Olaf, you could keep them up for another 10 > months? If so, consider it done. Just tell me where to send the dough. unfortunately no ;-) 15 euros/month has been my employee special price for housing a server with flat traffic. Since I'm no longer w/ Telefonica the company isn't willing to provide me with 200 TB/month for only 15 bucks any more. I suppose to pay at least 1500 euros/month as regular price. regards Olaf ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] blutmagie exits shut down
On Tuesday 27 September 2011 08:53:39 Olaf Selke wrote: > unfortunately no ;-) > > 15 euros/month has been my employee special price for housing a server > with flat traffic. Since I'm no longer w/ Telefonica the company isn't > willing to provide me with 200 TB/month for only 15 bucks any more. > > I suppose to pay at least 1500 euros/month as regular price. Could you bring it back up with a small bandwidth? cmeclax ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] blutmagie exits shut down
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Olaf Selke wrote: > Am 27.09.2011 00:36, schrieb William Wrightman: > > > > May I ask how much the traffic was costing you? > > a payed 15 euros/month for 2U 19" rack space, electrical power/cooling, > and an unmetered GigE switch port. > So if I sent you 150 euros, Olaf, you could keep them up for another 10 months? If so, consider it done. Just tell me where to send the dough. -- Julie C. ju...@h-ck.ca GPG key FF4E2E70 available at http://keys.gnupg.net ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] blutmagie exits shut down
On 26/09/11 22:25, Olaf Selke wrote: > today blutmagie exits nodes ceased operation. So long, and thanks for all the fish^Wbandwidth. -- 3072D/D2DE707D Julian Yon (2011 General Use) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
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On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 02:39:12PM +0300, Zaher F. wrote: > > hello friends... > > > > > I was reading about Node Guards here : > https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#EntryGuards > > > SO Entry Guards can limit or stop the attacker from the document above... > > > But i still have some inquires: > > > how to get the entry guards??? Guards are chosen automatically. You don't need to do anything but run Tor. (I'm assuming you don't need to use a bridge to get to the Tor network. https://www.torproject.org/docs/bridges.html.en ) > and to set an entry guard does it mean to use always the same entry > node each time i want to connect to ToR Relying on one is generally too unpredictable. Your Tor software randomly chooses a default set of three entry guards which are used for each of your circuits. These are used as long as everything remains basically stable and the same. Over time, some may be gradually replaced for various reasons. > > > Thx. HTH, Paul ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] blutmagie exits shut down
Hello Olaf, On Mo, 2011-09-26 at 23:25 +0200, Olaf Selke wrote: > today blutmagie exits nodes ceased operation. Sad to see them go, Thanks for all the time and effort! Regards, Frank ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
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if u make a look here : http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/ u will see some nodes are mentioned as Guard and some not... so i am talking about those Guard ones to making them as entry nodes... thx > Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 09:49:47 -0400 > From: syver...@itd.nrl.navy.mil > To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] <> > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 02:39:12PM +0300, Zaher F. wrote: > > > > hello friends... > > > > > > > > > > I was reading about Node Guards here : > > https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#EntryGuards > > > > > > SO Entry Guards can limit or stop the attacker from the document above... > > > > > > But i still have some inquires: > > > > > > how to get the entry guards??? > > Guards are chosen automatically. You don't need to do anything but run > Tor. (I'm assuming you don't need to use a bridge to get to the Tor > network. https://www.torproject.org/docs/bridges.html.en ) > > > and to set an entry guard does it mean to use always the same entry > > node each time i want to connect to ToR > > Relying on one is generally too unpredictable. Your Tor software > randomly chooses a default set of three entry guards which are used > for each of your circuits. These are used as long as everything > remains basically stable and the same. Over time, some may be > gradually replaced for various reasons. > > > > > > > Thx. > > HTH, > Paul > ___ > tor-talk mailing list > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] blutmagie exits shut down
Am 27.09.2011 15:32, schrieb Julian Yon: > > So long, and thanks for all the fish^Wbandwidth. that's what I said as farewell to the colleagues the day leaving the company ;-) regards Olaf ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] blutmagie exits shut down
On Monday, September 26, 2011 10:13 PM, "grarpamp" wrote: > > Echoing... > > Ditto. BM was an early, long running, high bandwidth and stable node. > I don't think its importance to all the good packets that passed through > it, and to Tor and the anonspace as a whole, can be underestimated. > Thanks. > ___ > tor-talk mailing list > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > Thanks for your great contribution Olaf. (@grarpamp: you mean 'I don't think should be underestimated' or '..can be exaggerated'.) -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
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On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 06:13:09PM +0300, Zaher F. wrote: > > if u make a look here : http://torstatus.blutmagie.de/ > > > u will see some nodes are mentioned as Guard and some not... > > > so i am talking about those Guard ones to making them as entry nodes... > Yes. When your Tor software picks three guards, it picks them from the ones that are labeled as Guard. If you mean why are some labeled and some not, there is an attempt to pick nodes that are neither too flaky nor too slow to be relied on regularly as guards. See more details at. https://gitweb.torproject.org/torspec.git/blob_plain/HEAD:/dir-spec.txt -Paul > > thx > > > Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 09:49:47 -0400 > > From: syver...@itd.nrl.navy.mil > > To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] <> > > > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 02:39:12PM +0300, Zaher F. wrote: > > > > > > hello friends... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was reading about Node Guards here : > > > https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq.html.en#EntryGuards > > > > > > > > > SO Entry Guards can limit or stop the attacker from the document above... > > > > > > > > > But i still have some inquires: > > > > > > > > > how to get the entry guards??? > > > > Guards are chosen automatically. You don't need to do anything but run > > Tor. (I'm assuming you don't need to use a bridge to get to the Tor > > network. https://www.torproject.org/docs/bridges.html.en ) > > > > > and to set an entry guard does it mean to use always the same entry > > > node each time i want to connect to ToR > > > > Relying on one is generally too unpredictable. Your Tor software > > randomly chooses a default set of three entry guards which are used > > for each of your circuits. These are used as long as everything > > remains basically stable and the same. Over time, some may be > > gradually replaced for various reasons. > > > > > > > > > > > Thx. > > > > HTH, > > Paul > > ___ > > tor-talk mailing list > > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > ___ > tor-talk mailing list > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] blutmagie exits shut down
>> So if I sent you 150 euros, Olaf, you could keep them up for another 10 >> months? If so, consider it done. Just tell me where to send the dough. > > unfortunately no ;-) > > 15 euros/month has been my employee special price for housing a server > with flat traffic. Since I'm no longer w/ Telefonica the company isn't > willing to provide me with 200 TB/month for only 15 bucks any more. > > I suppose to pay at least 1500 euros/month as regular price. The solution to this is simple... find a Telefonica POP and bribe an employee in the parking lot on lunch break ;-) Alternatively, become the mole in the bunker... http://www.telefonica.com/en/europe/html/careers/ http://www.multinationalsolutions.telefonica.com/job-opportunities.aspx http://www.us.telefonica.com/ http://www.telefonica.com/en/countries/html/home/index.shtml ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] blutmagie exits shut down
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 03:40:58PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > > 15 euros/month has been my employee special price for housing a server > > with flat traffic. Since I'm no longer w/ Telefonica the company isn't > > willing to provide me with 200 TB/month for only 15 bucks any more. > > The solution to this is simple... find a Telefonica POP and bribe > an employee in the parking lot on lunch break ;-) This is a good point. If you (or anybody) knows anybody still working there, it's clear what must be done. ;) I imagine offering to deal with operations, handling complaints, etc would make it more palatable. But really, it's going to require some ongoing effort by said employee. While I'm here -- based on various people emailing me yesterday, I put up a new FAQ entry on turning donations into relays: https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq#RelayDonations --Roger ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
Re: [tor-talk] blutmagie exits shut down
On 27.09.2011 19:53, Roger Dingledine wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 03:40:58PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: >>> 15 euros/month has been my employee special price for housing a server >>> with flat traffic. Since I'm no longer w/ Telefonica the company isn't >>> willing to provide me with 200 TB/month for only 15 bucks any more. >> >> The solution to this is simple... find a Telefonica POP and bribe >> an employee in the parking lot on lunch break ;-) > > This is a good point. If you (or anybody) knows anybody still working > there, it's clear what must be done. ;) I imagine offering to deal with > operations, handling complaints, etc would make it more palatable. But > really, it's going to require some ongoing effort by said employee. > > While I'm here -- based on various people emailing me yesterday, I put > up a new FAQ entry on turning donations into relays: > https://www.torproject.org/docs/faq#RelayDonations > > --Roger > > ___ I want to try to appeal to Russian political oppositionists to take participation in setting up and maintaining Tor exit nodes. I don't know whether it will have a success or not, but I intend to try. What would it better - more nodes with narrow bandwidth or less nodes with wide bandwidth? ___ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
