Re: [tor-relays] Call for discussion: turning funding into more exit relays
On 26.07.2012, at 19:52, Andrew Lewman wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jul 2012 16:05:53 + > k...@damnfbi.tk wrote: >> We should probably talk further then since I'm _in_ Iceland atm and >> would also like to see a high capacity node here. >> May I ask for your reasoning though? A lot of people on both sides of >> the pond have believed that IMMI <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMMI> >> has been passed here already when it has in fact not (yet). I'm in >> touch with those trying to pass it and it comes up for major review >> in september. Have you tried talking to DataCell >> <http://www.datacell.com/>? > > I talked to Datacell roughly a year ago. They were fine with an exit > relay, but at the time were distracted by suing Visa. > > The only issue was pure cost. Traffic leaving Iceland costs a lot. I > wasn't prepared to spend ISK300,000 per month for a 100 mbps exit relay. > > Maybe times have changed and traffic from Iceland is not so expensive > anymore. Traffic from Iceland is still relatively expensive. However we could host some machines in other places where we interconnect on internet exchanges. We are still distracted by suing Visa due to Wikileaks case but that doesn't stop us doing good business. I believe we have a couple of users running tor on their VM's. Not sure if exit or not. But the first law enforcement request (identify the owner) was already in (however not in proper format and from the wrong country so we didn't have to answer it anyway. They couldn't even read whois entries correctly or use traceroute to get an idea where the server really is). Andreas Fink CEO DataCell ehf > -- > Andrew > http://tpo.is/contact > pgp 0x6B4D6475 > ___ > tor-relays mailing list > tor-relays@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Call for discussion: turning funding into more exit relays
On 30.07.2012, at 12:54, Moritz Bartl wrote: > On 24.07.2012 00:09, Roger Dingledine wrote: >> - What do you currently pay for hosting/bandwidth, and how much bandwidth >> do you get for that? > > 109 Euro for Gbit in Romania (Voxility/Limehost) > $400 each for Gbit in Budapest and USA (Axigy)* > 300 Euro for 200 Mbps in Sweden > 375 Euro for 200TB (~800 Mbps) in Netherlands (NForce) > You have to well differentiate here if you get shared traffic or dedicated one. In othe rwords if you pay 109€ for 1GBit you are unlikely able fill that gigabit 95% of the time. And the forth offer is for transferred traffic not speed. In international wholesale, prices per megabit range from 1€ - 50€ depending on location. Those are dedicated backbone prices so for a fully dedicated 1Gbps, you should expect a minimum of 1000€. Otherwise you simply get overbooked connectivity ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] Call for discussion: turning funding into more exit relays
On 30.07.2012, at 13:03, Moritz Bartl wrote: > On 30.07.2012 12:57, Andreas Fink wrote: >>> 109 Euro for Gbit in Romania (Voxility/Limehost) >>> $400 each for Gbit in Budapest and USA (Axigy)* >>> 300 Euro for 200 Mbps in Sweden >>> 375 Euro for 200TB (~800 Mbps) in Netherlands (NForce) >>> >> >> You have to well differentiate here if you get shared traffic or dedicated >> one. > > I don't know how they do it, but we get 600-800 Mbps constantly since > properly configuring the nodes at Limehost. Axigy provides dedicated > Gbit at that price to us as sponsorship - same for NForce (actually > their deal is 2x100TB outbound, inbound free). Then they are giving away bandwidth below cost or you profit of the fact that most of their other customers are not doing anything. > >> In othe rwords if you pay 109€ for 1GBit you are unlikely able fill that >> gigabit 95% of the time. > > See http://voxility1.torservers.net/vnstat_d.png > and http://voxility1.torservers.net/vnstat.png (pretty constant daily > pattern) > >> In international wholesale, prices per megabit range from 1€ - 50€ depending >> on location. > > That's why we go with ISPs who do a mixed calculation. Say, one in ten > customers uses the full Gbit. True but then you are simply using empty capacity of the others which is not guaranteed to you. So if the other customers start pumping your connection speed drops. ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
Re: [tor-relays] DigitalOcean, cheap VPS that's ok with middle relays
On 08.01.2013, at 20:51, Moritz Bartl wrote:
> Hi Micah,
>
> On 08.01.2013 19:47, Micah Lee wrote:
>> FYI, I just discovered a VPS provider DigitalOcean, and they seem fine
>> with people running non-exit nodes:
>
> Thanks for the hint. In general, I don't see why VPS providers would not
> allow internal Tor relaying, and I would not even bother to ask first.
> Interesting values to know about VPS providers are bandwidth allowance
> ("unlimited" is quite obviously a marketing term; often, limits can only
> be discovered by some months of experience) and [socket/numfile]
> limitations. Support is often reluctant to provide such values before
> ordering. A good way to characterize VPS offers is to post the output of
> "cat /proc/user_beancounters".
that seems to only exist on OpenVZ but not on fully virtualized hosts.
>
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can someone give me hints on what hardware would be best suited to run big fat tor exit nodes connected with multiple 1gbps or 10gps links? We are considering putting some fat boxes near major internet exchanges of the world. sent from iPhone ___ tor-relays mailing list tor-relays@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-relays
