[techtalk] Delurk/Getting started
Hullo. :) Err.. i'm always terrible at delurking anywhere, and even worse at asking questions (years on alt.gothic, where the newbies are served with ketchup), but here goes... I'm *trying* to learn Linux. It ain't easy, since I don't have it installed anywhere yet, but the books are helping. At the moment, i'm downloading an ISO of SUsE 7.1, which seemed to be one of the better distro's for newbies. (Discuss?) I'm seriously contemplating partitioning off 2-3 gig of my current windows machine (HP 6545c, Celeron 500, 20gb HD and 191mb) and running it from there. I know that I have to make a Linux partition, not a FAT32. Here's where I get confused... After I burn the ISO's onto CD, will it boot from the CD, or do I have to use my old windows boot disk? If I have to use the boot disk.. err.. i'll be lost. If I can boot from CD, will the installer see that there is already a Linux partition and start the install there? I'm really worried about something on the windows side getting lost. It's all backed up, but it would be a PITA to redo it all. What are the chances if something totally not being compatible? I know there there are issues with WinModems, and that's not an issue, since i'm on cable- I don't use the modem, BUT I have a combo card, and the sound might not work, right? From what I understand, SUsE has a pretty good installer, and pretty good hardware detection, but i'm not sure about my POS HP being anywhere near Linux-friendly. Not to mention my cable modem.. i'm not even going to attempt to get THAT going until i'm better at this. I've heard scary things. Am I getting in over my head? I have a Linux guru friend that can help me, but it's finding the time for him to come over that's the problem. This man lives for install parties :) That said, i'm a Linux geek at heart, but my brain isn't convinced. I love listening to people talking about it, and i'm trying SO hard to absorb everything I read. But i'm still unsteady. :sits back and waits with head between knees like the flight attendant said to: -- Ruhiel http://ruhiel.noom.com "bash awk grep perl sed df du, du-du du-du, vi troff su fsck rm * halt LART LART LART!"- the Swedish BOFH ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Delurk/Getting started
Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote one of the nicest email's i've ever gotten: > Great idea! > If you own Partition Magic this re-sizing can be done easily I do have PM. But I will read all the fips anyway. > Of course the files readme.1st, fips.faq, fips.doc > in directory /dostools/fips/fips15 (or /dostools/fips/fips20, resp.) > are also very worth reading... The download only finished a while ago, and I haven't looked at the files yet. Thank you for pointing them out. I may have missed them. > Step #1 is running a defrag program on your windows partition. That one wouldn't have caught me either. Sometimes I can be amazingly dim. > Creation of the Linux partition normally is done while installing Linux: > there is a point in the SuSE setup procedure where you may partition > your disk. Then i'll let the installer do it. Good. > In this case just make sure you actually read the comments and questions > written on the setup screens before proceeding with [Enter]. You can count on that. I'll probably be spending several hours reading and rereading everything prompted ;) > Note: When creating the Linux partition make sure you do *not* use all > the space that got free when shrinking the Windows partition! > > Reason: In addition to creating a Linux partiton you also have to create > a 2nd partition, type Linux Swap! Gotcha. I had read about the swap partition, but wasn't sure how to go about making them. I'm glad the installer will do it :) > > IMHO you should reserve about 300MB for this (anybody please correct me > if I am wrong:) because using less than 191MB will be useless when using > a 2.4 kernel since these modern kernels will ignore the Swap space totally > if it has smaller size than your RAM. I had read that you should make it 1.5 times the size of your ram, but there was some discussion as to whether that was accurate. I'll do 300mb anyway. > subscribe it here: http://www.suse.com/us/support/mailinglists/index.html > read the archive: http://lists.suse.com/archives/suse-linux-e/ > >comp.os.linux.* I'm subbing to the lists :) Thank you :) I've been reading the newsgroup for a short time, and i'm becoming familiar with some of the things they're discussing. Slowly. Thank you again for the info :) We actually have bits and pieces for a linux box, but I think i'd rather run it from this machine. It saves desk space. :) I did find a handy page: http://enterprise.powerup.com.au/~squadron/ The one page linux manual :) It has some good little reference notes. And through that i'm figuring out what the different abbreviations are. If I can figure out all those, i'll be in good shape :) -- Ruhiel http://ruhiel.noom.com "bash awk grep perl sed df du, du-du du-du, vi troff su fsck rm * halt LART LART LART!"- the Swedish BOFH ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Here we go
I'm defragging now, and using the laptop for web connection. I have the burned SuSE cd.. I know it works because my neighbor just installed from it ;) I'm going to use the built in partitioner. I'm giving Linux 3gb with a 300mb swap. (Then i'll still have over 6 free.) I'm going to use the Boot Magic that's already installed to control the boot ups. And I have the Linux install guide from Linux.com pulled up and ready to go... The last thing i'll need to do is install ximian. BUT I don't know how to since I won't be hooked up to the internet... can I somehow download it in wondows and pull it up from Linux? Forgive my silly questions. I know it involves mounting something, but beyond that i'm clueless. Ruhiel ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Here we go
- Original Message - From: "Jenny Bernard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If you have a windows partition, you can navigate to /mnt and just do a > "mount win" (or whatever you have named your windows partition... mine is > called win It didn't ask anything on the install... so I dont know if windows is even still there :) I have a plethora of questions... I got an Invalid Module name error installing my sound card. What's this and how do I learn to fix it? My display is all wonky, and the clock is wrong.. I just fixed the clock, but it's currently stuck saying "loading" in the little window... i'll just hope it wakes up. I actually think my modem may work.. it's a networked modem, and it saw the nic card ok, so I might not have to do anything else. I hope. This install went wy too smoothly. I booted from CD and the YAST just did it's thing. It asked me a few questions, and asked me to configure everything (which I didn't do yet) and that was it. ARGH WHERE DO I FIX MY DISPLAY?!? grr. I can't find it, and it's giving me a headache being off center. I'm running in KDE until I get ximian installed. Ruhiel, will ask more later :) ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] It's all done... kind of
Well, I got it installed. I'm thinking i'll have to do it again though, since it's saying that I have a Live Eval, and some things don't look like they're there. I have no idea. I wasn't able to get the sound going, since apparent;y there isn't a linux driver for a Riptide Combo card. I checked OSSFree, but they're not there anymore? :sigh: BUT i've been having much fun playing. I can't FIND anything, but it's fun exploring. I can't get Ximian, since they don't support SuSe 7.1 yet, only 7.0 I can't get my CD rom open. I don't know if the burner works. KDE is confusing. Nobody is talking in #linuxchix. That is all :) Ruhiel ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
[techtalk] Well, it doesn't matter anyway
Thank you for all the advice that was sent... But it doesn't matter ;) Because i'm dumb, you see. The ISO that I burned was a live eval. I can't install it anyway. But it ran off the CD and let me play for a few hours. I'm just glad that I didn't really do anything in-depth, because I would have been really pissed when it was for nothing ;) So i'll have a *real* boxed version some time next week, then we can start the whole mess over. I'm saving the emails ;) -- Ruhiel, d'oh http://ruhiel.noom.com "bash awk grep perl sed df du, du-du du-du, vi troff su fsck rm * halt LART LART LART!"- the Swedish BOFH ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
Re: [techtalk] Well, it doesn't matter anyway
"Rebecca J. Walter" wrote: > > you just ran an intermediate step. the regular setup is similiar to the > live eval. the live eval is mainly for testing if hardware works or for > running on systems where you cant install much. Well, I got it right eventually :) I got the full version day before yesterday, and installed it without a hitch (kind of). The only parts that won't work is the sound (WinModem combo card- not supported), printer because I haven't set it up, and the CD burner which I understand can be a PITA. But it's on, it's running (right now, actually) and i'm learning all the bits and bobs that make up the system. GNOME & KDE make that easier. I found a couple of websites that have basic command tutorials. I can't get any more books right now, and the ones I have are limited. But i'm getting there. And BTW, I had no problems with the display this time :) Ruhiel ___ techtalk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/techtalk
