[techtalk] setting up Apache

2001-02-11 Thread WolfRyder

Hi everyone,

My new job is so much fun! I'm the new Webmaster where I work and have 
slowly learning my way around my new job. I know the  server is a UNIX 
system, but my husband assures me it's enough like Linux to be almost 
twins, so I'm not so intimidated by it. What I'm asking is, does anyone 
know a good irc channel or mailing list for Unix newbies to ask questions 
without feeling totally stupid?

I'm going to migrate the webpages from a Netscape Enterprise system that is 
no longer supported by Netscape (or anyone else) to Apache and I'd like 
someone/someones who would be willing to give moral support and some 
technical support if necessary.

If I could get away with changing the system to a Linux one I 
would...that's down the road. I DO have a project involving Linux, php, 
MySql and shopping cart software that I'm perking in my head. If anyone has 
had experience with opensource shopping cart software, I'd appreciate 
hearing about it.

Thanks, everyone!
Carol

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Re: [techtalk] setting up Apache

2001-02-11 Thread ktb

On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 09:03:12AM -0600, WolfRyder wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> My new job is so much fun! I'm the new Webmaster where I work and have 
> slowly learning my way around my new job. I know the  server is a UNIX 
> system, but my husband assures me it's enough like Linux to be almost 
> twins, so I'm not so intimidated by it. What I'm asking is, does anyone 
> know a good irc channel or mailing list for Unix newbies to ask questions 
> without feeling totally stupid?
> 
> I'm going to migrate the webpages from a Netscape Enterprise system that is 
> no longer supported by Netscape (or anyone else) to Apache and I'd like 
> someone/someones who would be willing to give moral support and some 
> technical support if necessary.
> 
> If I could get away with changing the system to a Linux one I 
> would...that's down the road. I DO have a project involving Linux, php, 
> MySql and shopping cart software that I'm perking in my head. If anyone has 
> had experience with opensource shopping cart software, I'd appreciate 
> hearing about it.
> 

Well there is this list.  You can also look though the various
archives of the different email lists of the programs your looking at.
http://www.geocrawler.com/ might be a good source for you.  You might
want to set up a linux box as you describe at home or at work and play
with it.  Join the email list of the distro your using and ask there.  
I've found most Linux email lists to be friendly.  No need to feel
stupid.
Just some thoughts.
kent

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Re: [techtalk] setting up Apache

2001-02-11 Thread James Sutherland

On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, WolfRyder wrote:

> Hi everyone,

Hiya!

> My new job is so much fun! I'm the new Webmaster where I work and have 
> slowly learning my way around my new job.

Congratulations! That's how I got started on *nix systems too.

> I know the server is a UNIX system, but my husband assures me it's
> enough like Linux to be almost twins, so I'm not so intimidated by it.

That's good. Linux is really just one flavour of a group of systems
referred to as "Unix" - SGI's Irix, Sun Solaris, IBM AIX, FreeBSD,
OpenBSD, NetBSD, Mac OS X... All slightly different, but similar enough
you can jump from one to another without feeling completely bewildered.

> What I'm asking is, does anyone know a good irc channel or mailing
> list for Unix newbies to ask questions without feeling totally stupid?

I think you've found one :-)

> I'm going to migrate the webpages from a Netscape Enterprise system that is 
> no longer supported by Netscape (or anyone else) to Apache and I'd like 
> someone/someones who would be willing to give moral support and some 
> technical support if necessary.

Excellent move!

Having done almost exactly the same myself (CERN httpd --> Apache on a
Solaris system) the best piece of advice is: move slowly! Are there any
pressing reasons to dump Netscape's server right now, or is it just a case
of keeping up to date?

If you like, meet me on irc.openprojects.net - I'm called "James_" (note
the underscore!).

> If I could get away with changing the system to a Linux one I 
> would...that's down the road. I DO have a project involving Linux, php, 
> MySql and shopping cart software that I'm perking in my head. If anyone has 
> had experience with opensource shopping cart software, I'd appreciate 
> hearing about it.

e-commerce isn't something I've done any work on, but I'm sure someone
here has!


James.


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[techtalk] need help: customizing bash behavior

2001-02-11 Thread Jonathan M. Katz

I'm a Linux newbie and I've been systematically reading the
O'Reilly book "Learning the bash Shell" by C. Newham, et. al.
(this is not a plug). I run RH 6.2, with the old (2.2) kernel, but I
have manually upgraded the shell to bash version 2.04.

I'm up to chapter three, which deals with customizing the shell's
behavior, including the use of environment settings and options
in the (global) bashrc and profile files, and I'm having some
trouble understanding how to implement certain settings of the
shell.

I was able to set the FCEDIT variable within profile, but all my
attempts to set the HISTIGNORE variable in that same file have
failed. I have also been unable to make "set -o ignoreeof" "stick"
when located in profile yet both the HISTIGNORE and
ignoreeof settings are perfectly happy in bashrc, which, from
my inspection of the comments in profile and bashrc, seems
like the "wrong place" for them to be. Am I making sense?

Anyhow, with the current setup, I get the results I want, but
it seems messy and a bit arbitrary, which probably means I've
missed some subtlety of proper configuration practices. BTW,
although I like Newham's book, there are some gaps in the
explanation of setting environment variables that are deppening
my current confusion.

I've included the two current versions of the files /etc/bashrc
and /etc/profile as inline text below... my additions to the
original articles are marked with  and are as follows:

in bashrc: added lines 6-16; lines 12-16 appear (to me) to
be in the "wrong file", since they deal with the environment
and are not aliases or function definitions... but this is what
works for now!

in profile: added lines 22-24; tried inserting lines 12-16 from
bashrc at line 25 but to no avail.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help out!
jkatz

: profile :
# /etc/profile

# System wide environment and startup programs
# Functions and aliases go in /etc/bashrc

PATH="$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin"

ulimit -c 100
if [ `id -gn` = `id -un` -a `id -u` -gt 14 ]; then
 umask 002
else
 umask 022
fi

USER=`id -un`
LOGNAME=$USER
MAIL="/var/spool/mail/$USER"

HOSTNAME=`/bin/hostname`
HISTSIZE=1000

# System environment settings added by jkatz 11-Feb-2001
FCEDIT="/usr/bin/emacs" 

if [ -z "$INPUTRC" -a ! -f "$HOME/.inputrc" ]; then
 INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc
fi

export PATH USER LOGNAME MAIL HOSTNAME HISTSIZE INPUTRC

for i in /etc/profile.d/*.sh ; do
 if [ -x $i ]; then
 . $i
 fi
done

unset i

: bashrc :
# /etc/bashrc

# System wide functions and aliases
# Environment stuff goes in /etc/profile

# System aliases added by jkatz 11-Feb-2001
alias la='ls -la'   
alias md='mkdir'
alias rd='rmdir'
alias ro='rm *~; rm .*~'

# System options added by jkatz 11-Feb-2001
set -o ignoreeof

HISTIGNORE="&"  

# are we an interactive shell?
if [ "$PS1" ]; then
 if [ "x`tput kbs`" != "x" ]; then # We can't do this with "dumb" terminal
 stty erase `tput kbs`
 fi
 case $TERM in
 xterm*)
 PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "\033]0;${USER}@${HOSTNAME}: ${PWD}\007"'
 ;;
 *)
 ;;
 esac
 PS1="[\u@\h \W]\\$ "

 if [ "x$SHLVL" != "x1" ]; then # We're not a login shell
 for i in /etc/profile.d/*.sh; do
 if [ -x $i ]; then
 . $i
 fi
 done
 fi
fi



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