[techtalk] mouse problem

2000-07-26 Thread Lotta Loytonen

Hi! 

I have a classic Logitech 3-button PS/2 mouse, no wheels or anything,
and I can't get the middle button to work under linux. Can anyone help
me? It's my work machine so I don't want to experiment too much with
it as someone would probably start saying that I'd be more effective
with NT. It's a standard up-to-date Debian Potato system. The
thing is that I'm not sure which protocol to use, thought it was ps/2
but when I choose that the mouse just freezes. Now it's using some
Microsoft mouse protocol and works fine except that I have to use
Emulate 3 buttons to paste. (Have configured it with XF86Setup). My
work includes a lot of pasting on the command line so I'd really want
to fix this before anything dreadful happens. Loads of thanks in
advance! 

Lotta 


   


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Re: [techtalk] mouse problem

2000-07-26 Thread Magni Onsoien

Lotta Loytonen:
> I have a classic Logitech 3-button PS/2 mouse, no wheels or anything,


Nice mouse! :)

> and I can't get the middle button to work under linux. Can anyone help
> me? It's my work machine so I don't want to experiment too much with
> it as someone would probably start saying that I'd be more effective
> with NT. It's a standard up-to-date Debian Potato system. The
> thing is that I'm not sure which protocol to use, thought it was ps/2
> but when I choose that the mouse just freezes. Now it's using some
> Microsoft mouse protocol and works fine except that I have to use
> Emulate 3 buttons to paste. (Have configured it with XF86Setup). My
> work includes a lot of pasting on the command line so I'd really want
> to fix this before anything dreadful happens. Loads of thanks in
> advance! 

I have a similar one at home, and I use the MouseMan protocol. Works
very well, if you ask me :) (Though sometimes I paste a bit too much...)

Magni :)
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Re: [techtalk] *nix comparisons

2000-07-26 Thread Telsa Gwynne

On Thu, Jul 20, 2000 at 06:08:41PM -0400 or thereabouts, Susannah D. Rosenberg wrote:
> Telsa Gwynne wrote:
> >
> > One of the *BSD people was explaining the updating process to me
> > at LinuxTag. What has long put me off is the same reason I keep
> > delaying Debian: you either wait for a new CD or you do big upgrades
> > over the net via CVS checkout. I have a titchy modem. Apparently
> > this is ameliorated for at least the BSD flavour he was talking
> > about (which I forget) by periodic (daily?) deltas being made of
> > the CVS differences so you can grab those, which is apparently faster.
> 
> but *BSD tends in general to update things like the kernel far less than
> Linux; the reasons why come down to design 

Ah, fair point :)

> philosophy and what the BSD kernels are attempting to do (the initial
> 4.2 BSD-Lite was basically released to provide the world with a free,
> open-source, stable BSD codebase). maybe two releases a year or so (this
> is part of why the BSDs tend to be more secure than Linux); other than
> that, you really only need to update/download software that you use a
> /lot/ or that you care to keep current, and security fixes -- which is
> really no different than what you'd be doing on a Linux. there aren't
> daily/weekly/monthly kernel releases that you need to keep up with, and

Heh. I only ever upgrade kernels if there is a security fix or some
feature or driver I have been desperately waiting for; I have also
got past the "grab every update" stage and am now in the "does
it fix something I care about?" stage. Life is much more peaceful
this way :)

> the ports collection works fine for most of the rest. (you can also get
> CDs with 'snapshots' of the ports and packages collections on them, if
> you really need a certain piece of software).

Handy.

> as someone who's used both *BSD and Linux, i'd say that linux is
> actually harder to keep up with if you want a bleeding-edge-current
> release. (ie, installing every single new kernel release as it comes
> out). cvs-upping can be a pain, but it's a very infrequent pain and not
> as bad as downloading new kernels over a titchy modem. :)

Interesting. Well, I have a spare disk. So maybe one day.. :)
 
> administate the box. getting over expecting the first ethernet device to
> be /dev/eth0 and then finding out it could be something like /dev/cp0 or
> /dev/en0 or /dev/ne1k depending on your NIC can be very disconcerting.
> ditto fixed and removeable drives.

Eep. I would not have figured that one out, I suspect :)
 
> i'm suprised no one seems to have brought up Solaris x86. the last time
> i gave it a try i decided it was really primitive, but apparently the
> recent versions have improved greatly. anyone have any (recent)
> experience with it?

Last time I used a Sun was when I met sunview for the first time. It is
remotely possible I may be somewhat out of date... :) (Yes, this is 
about nine years ago :))

Telsa


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Re: [techtalk] Servlets vs. PHP

2000-07-26 Thread Becky L. Norum

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Julie Meloni wrote:

> As far as "faster & more efficient" from a technological standpoint,
> it's six of one (half dozen of the other).  In my completely
> unscientific internal benchmarking, they're equal in speed, within a few
> microseconds here and there, and I don't count that.  (Concurrent users,
> single users, etc etcboth equal).  
> 
> As far as "faster & more efficient" from a coding standpoint, it depends
> on who's doing the coding.  If your group of programmers consists of
> Java developers, then let them make servlets if that's what they're
> comfortable creating.  If your group of programmers consists of
> programmers who are PHP developers, let them do PHP.   If your group of
> programmers haven't actually ever programmed anything before, and are
> picking a language to start with, the learning curve for PHP is a heck
> of a lot faster to get around than the learning curve for Java.  
> 

Julie,

Thanks for the input.  Since the team of developers is at this time um... 
me and me alone, I think I'll be sticking with Java for the time being,
since I have some familiarity with it and there is no distinct advantage
to one or the other.

-- Becky



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Re: [techtalk] Servlets vs. PHP

2000-07-26 Thread Christian MacAuley

> Thanks for the input.  Since the team of developers is at this time
um...
> me and me alone, I think I'll be sticking with Java for the time
being,
> since I have some familiarity with it and there is no distinct
advantage
> to one or the other.

Becky,

Although i am a web specialist i stayed out of this thread because by
the time i read it everyone had already said exacly what i would
have - no sense in being redundant.

Anyway, i don't know where *you're* located, but i know a ton of web
developers here in the Washington, DC area and a hell of a lot more of
us know Java than PHP - so from a labor standpoint your decision makes
sense to me :).

~Christian


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