[techtalk] Netscape

2000-06-26 Thread Carolyn Jarie Getter


In Netscape, when I go to certain pages, it (Netscape) goes *poof* (shuts
down).  I don't begin to know where to look to figure out why.  All my
settings are default settings, except that I enlarged the font size.  Any ideas,
anyone?  

Carolyn



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Re: [techtalk] Netscape

2000-06-26 Thread Shelly L. Hokanson

hi carolyn -

just a guess, but i've found that under both linux and windoze, netscape is
buggy in handling java/javascript.  (funny since - if i recall correctly -
didn't netscape author javascript?). my netscape does strange things on
javascript-intensive pages.

shelly

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Subject: [techtalk] Netscape


>
> In Netscape, when I go to certain pages, it (Netscape) goes *poof* (shuts
> down).  I don't begin to know where to look to figure out why.  All my
> settings are default settings, except that I enlarged the font size.  Any
ideas,
> anyone?
>
> Carolyn
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Re: [techtalk] Netscape

2000-06-26 Thread coder

Carolyn Jarie Getter wrote:
> 
> In Netscape, when I go to certain pages, it (Netscape) goes *poof* (shuts
> down).  I don't begin to know where to look to figure out why.  All my
> settings are default settings, except that I enlarged the font size.  Any ideas,
> anyone?
> 
> Carolyn
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Unfortunately, this is not a configuration problem.  Everyone has this
problem to varying degrees of annoyance with the 4.X versions of
netscape on linux.

This is almost always a problem with the java and java script
implementation in netscape.

Try turning off java script and java and going to those pages.  If it
still crashes, then you may want to look at upgrading your netscape
version.

To turn off java/java script:


Menu Bar-
  |
  |-Edit-
  |
  |- preferences
   

   Select the 'Advanced' tab in the left side of the dialog box and
de-select the java and java script options.


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Re: [techtalk] Netscape

2000-06-26 Thread Carolyn Jarie Getter


Sure 'nough.  Turning off Java and JavaScript did the trick.  (Shouldn't such
quirks be ironed out by now?!)  I wish I had asked much sooner, as it would
have saved me lots of aggravation!  Thanks for the tip! 

Carolyn


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RE: [techtalk] Netscape

2000-06-26 Thread Fan, Laurel

Carolyn Jarie Getter, [EMAIL PROTECTED], said:
> Sure 'nough.  Turning off Java and JavaScript did the trick.  
> (Shouldn't such quirks be ironed out by now?!)

Netscape isn't open source.  You can't really expect them to be
enthusiastic about fixing bugs.



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Re: [techtalk] Netscape

2000-06-26 Thread sara ruohotie



On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Carolyn Jarie Getter wrote:

> In Netscape, when I go to certain pages, it (Netscape) goes *poof* (shuts
> down).  I don't begin to know where to look to figure out why.  All my

my netscape does that when i go to heavily javaed paged (gosh my english
sucks!). i mean many java applets and programs on a site make my netscape
crash. one stupid thing that has helped me every now and then is that i
turn off all java support, exit netscape, launch netscape, turn java
support on and try again. maybe doing one restart aftern truning the
support on.


sara



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[techtalk] memory config?? HELP!!

2000-06-26 Thread stephanie1200

hi, all. stephanie here, formerly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heh. what a long strange 
trip it's been. ;) 

anyway, I need help! I wanted to research this before asking, but my system is at a 
crawl.  I put linux mandrake 7.1 on a 400mhz with 64 or 128 mbs of ram, i forget which 
(it has 1 dimm/simm/dim sum/whatever), but linux thinks it is a 166 with 27 mbs!  it 
showed up that way during the install, not sure why, and now it is swapping and paging 
all over the place and is making my life miserable. anyone know how to make it rethink 
how much ram and processor paower there is?  i looked in some books...no good. =(  oh. 
I had 7.0 on there and humming at one point so i know it's not just bunk hardware. I 
think.

here's what dmesg has to say about memory...

[beleza@ani lists]$ dmesg |grep mem   
Memory: 25868k/28608k available (1208k kernel code, 416k reserved, 580k data, 72k 
init, 0k bigmem)

25 mbs??!!??  eh, help??!!??  thank you!!!

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RE: [techtalk] memory config?? HELP!!

2000-06-26 Thread Davida Schiff

What does your BIOS show for RAM? How is the CPU recognized? If the BIOS has
the correct information , boot with your Emergency disk then use your rescue
disk to repair your system.

Davida

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hi, all. stephanie here, formerly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Heh. what a long
strange trip it's been. ;) 

anyway, I need help! I wanted to research this before asking, but my system
is at a crawl.  I put linux mandrake 7.1 on a 400mhz with 64 or 128 mbs of
ram, i forget which (it has 1 dimm/simm/dim sum/whatever), but linux thinks
it is a 166 with 27 mbs!  it showed up that way during the install, not sure
why, and now it is swapping and paging all over the place and is making my
life miserable. anyone know how to make it rethink how much ram and
processor paower there is?  i looked in some books...no good. =(  oh. I had
7.0 on there and humming at one point so i know it's not just bunk hardware.
I think.

here's what dmesg has to say about memory...

[beleza@ani lists]$ dmesg |grep mem   
Memory: 25868k/28608k available (1208k kernel code, 416k reserved, 580k
data, 72k init, 0k bigmem)

25 mbs??!!??  eh, help??!!??  thank you!!!

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RE: [techtalk] Netscape

2000-06-26 Thread Helena Verrill


I have noticed this crashing of netscape when java applets run -
it's annoying that it happens for some of my own java applets, 
which work fine when just run in the applet viewer.  The ones
that are more likely to make netscape crash tend to be bigger
and perhaps get a 'back log' of stuff such as things that happen
on 'mouse dragged'... (at least it seems they crash in these conditions)
but the applet in the applet viewer doesn't crash.  Has anyone got any
advice about writing java applets so they are less likely to crash?  Does
using threads help?  I've only made very limited use of threads so far.  
Maybe there's some way I should be able to check whether it's
likely to crash and get it to suspend or something, instead of
crashing the whole of netscape?

Helena



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Re: [techtalk] Netscape

2000-06-26 Thread Caitlyn Máire Martin

Hi, Carolyn, and everyone else,
>
> Sure 'nough.  Turning off Java and JavaScript did the trick.  (Shouldn't
such
> quirks be ironed out by now?!)  I wish I had asked much sooner, as it
would
> have saved me lots of aggravation!  Thanks for the tip!
>
Now, try upgrading to 4.73 and turning it on again.  4.73 went a very long
way towards resolving this, and is way more stable than any previous
Netscape 4.x version.

Take care,
Caity





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[techtalk] simple html/javascript problem?

2000-06-26 Thread joey tsai

Hi, I've had this problem for a bit and it's driving me crazy.

I'm the webmaster and designer for my church's webpage, atlantanewhope.org.
Now, here's the deal - the page displays fine under Netscape and Explorer,
but looks all ugly under two browsers - Mozilla, and IE for Mac.  Now, as I
understand it, these two browsers are the most standards-complaint browsers
around, so I'm assuming there's a problem with my HTML and/or Javascript.
But I haven't the slightest idea what - the HTML and JS I use is very
simple (it IS just a church webpage) and it looks okay with the online
validators as well as the other sites that check your html for you.

If you go to the website (atlantanewhope.org/about) there's two main things
that don't render right: (1) to move between areas there are buttons
(about/info/features) with mouseovers.  Now, it looks okay in all browsers,
but in IE/Mac and Mozilla it slows the whole system to a crawl and utlizies
near 100% CPU.  It works fine in Netscapes and IE/Win though.  The
replacement image for the mouseover is an animated gif, and that seems to
be the only reason why it doesn't work.  (2) For the content on each page,
the text is framed by a few pictures of lines so it looks nice and neat.
Again, this looks great everywhere except with Moz.  The pictures display
outside their table cells and just look like a mess.  When you see it,
you'll understand what I'm talking about.

So, does anyone know of a solution so the webpage can look right under all
browsers?  Or has anyone run into this before?  Is there anything wrong
with my table elements and javascript mouseovers?  Thanks,

// jt





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[techtalk] Palm Pilot software and older tcl/tk libraries

2000-06-26 Thread Carolyn Jarie Getter


Since you were all so wonderfully helpful on the "Netscape goes *poof*"
problem,   :)

Just for fun, I am test driving for a few days a friend's Palm IIIx.  I'd really
like to see if I can't get it up and running and cooperating with Linux. 
When I tried to install the software for it (hope you're not wanting the
specifics, as I'm too lazy to track them down), it hollered that I needed
assorted libraries for tcl and tk.  The libraries it wants are libraries that
are to versions older than the tcl and tk currently on my disk.  Is there a
solution to this other than downloading copies of old tcl and tk libraries? 

Carolyn









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Re: [techtalk] Palm Pilot software and older tcl/tk libraries

2000-06-26 Thread Magni Onsoien

Carolyn Jarie Getter:
> Just for fun, I am test driving for a few days a friend's Palm IIIx.  I'd really
> like to see if I can't get it up and running and cooperating with Linux. 
> When I tried to install the software for it (hope you're not wanting the
> specifics, as I'm too lazy to track them down), it hollered that I needed
> assorted libraries for tcl and tk.  The libraries it wants are libraries that
> are to versions older than the tcl and tk currently on my disk.  Is there a
> solution to this other than downloading copies of old tcl and tk libraries? 

Depend on what you want. I don't want the graphical annoyances, so I use
pilot-link, which I installed as an RPM on my RH 5.2 box. I guess you'll
find it after a quick Google/ftpsearch-search (my Netscape just crashed
(surprise!) so I don't wanna crawl through my bookmarks now. After all
it's almost 11.30pm, so I'd better get som sleep or something.).

I think there is also a Gnom/KDE-interface to it, but I have now idea
about if it provides any more functionallity.

Does anyone know programs (Gnome/KDE/graphical/non-graphical) that can
communicate with my addressbook or diary on the palm, like I see they
are doing with some windows-apps? (No, I haven't really used both my
'puter and my palm, I've just used my Palm for games, diary and
addresses, and my computer for "the rest".)


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Re: [techtalk] Netscape

2000-06-26 Thread Christian MacAuley

> In Netscape, when I go to certain pages, it (Netscape) goes *poof*
(shuts
> down).  I don't begin to know where to look to figure out why.  All
my
> settings are default settings, except that I enlarged the font size.
Any ideas,
> anyone?

When Netscape crashes, be sure to kill all of it's processes.  Usually
when my Netscape did this it left 3 or 4 child processes running and
consumed 99-100% of my system resources until i got to an xterm to
kill them.  Ick.

Now i use Mozilla, which is not only open source but compliant with
the World Wide Web consortion's standards.

http://www.mozilla.org

~Christian



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Re: [techtalk] mass useradd

2000-06-26 Thread Aaron Malone

On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 10:57:36AM -0400, Brian Sweeney wrote:
> Hello all-
> 
> Haven't been on the list in a while...hope everyone's doing well in their
> endeavors.  I have what I hope is a quick question.  I would like to know if
> there's a way (possible using perl/expect?) to add multiple users from a
> text file list all simultaneously.   I figure I could either put the
> usernames and passwords in one file (deliminating them with commas, spaces,
> tabs, , whatever), or put the username list in one file and the password
> list in another.
[snip]
> Is there a built-in linux command to do this, or does anyone know of a good
> script?

(Sorry my response is so delayed, I hardly ever read techtalk anymore.)

As a matter of fact, there's a program that does exactly what you're
looking for: chpasswd(8).  It takes a file of format:

aaron:foo887
josh:farglebog
pete:monkeypants

read from stdin (that is, "cat new-passwords.txt|chpasswd" or similar)
and updates the password files accordingly.

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Re: [techtalk] mass useradd

2000-06-26 Thread Aaron Malone

On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 04:35:37PM -0500, Aaron Malone wrote:
> 
> As a matter of fact, there's a program that does exactly what you're
> looking for: chpasswd(8).  It takes a file of format:

Except my sleep-addled brain just realized you wanted *add* a bunch of
users, not change their passwords.  Sorry.  Well, maybe someone else
needs to know how to do this.

If anyone is still interested, I can post a python script that will
add multiple users -- just let me know.

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Re: [techtalk] X port

2000-06-26 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick

On Sun, Jun 25, 2000 at 05:53:51PM +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:
> > Typically, X connects on ports 6000, 6001, 6002, ... (where the number
> > increments for each connection). The fun thing here is that you can't
> > completely block off these ports, because of the way X runs even on the
> > local machine -- the local machine must be able to connect to those ports.
> > So if you are controlling the external connections, you have to ensure
> > that you still leave local access to those ports (trust me .. it *is*
> > possible to mess this
> > up if you are me!).
> 
> Not quite. Local connections (as in "DISPLAY=:n", where n is your display
> number) go through local (UNIX) sockets, so they are not affected by IP
> firewalling. Here (XFree86-3.3.6), the sockets are in /tmp/.X11-unix/Xn.
> If you want to mess up X by firewalling, you'd have to set the DISPLAY to
> something like "localhost:n".

Oops! Now you mention it, I realise that I was an idiot when I posted some of
that. Which makes me wonder what else I must have been doing to completely
block out X connections last year (I was fooling around at the time and not
really concentrating, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't the $DISPLAY manipulation
you mentioned).

Ah well .. glad somebody was able to put everybody back on the right path.
Thanks. :-)

Sheepishly,
Malcolm

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Re: [techtalk] Netscape

2000-06-26 Thread Jenn V.



"Shelly L. Hokanson" wrote:
> 
> hi carolyn -
> 
> just a guess, but i've found that under both linux and windoze, netscape is
> buggy in handling java/javascript.  (funny since - if i recall correctly -
> didn't netscape author javascript?). my netscape does strange things on
> javascript-intensive pages.

Java - IIRC - was supposed to be a platform-independant language.
Unfortunately, as in all such things, a certain unnamed company 
was enthusiastic about NOT adhering to standards. (Others were
too, just that a certain company is rather high profile)

So writing Java which works for Browser A doesn't mean it necessarily
works for Browser B and we're right back into platform dependance 
again.


Le sigh.



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