Re: [techtalk] pppd problems, redhat 6.0

1999-11-07 Thread sara korhonen

> Um, we got the last bit figured out.. however, we still can't get it to
> connect:  the modem initialization strings never receive an OK.  So it
> waits 30 seconds, then fails.  We know this is really weird.  (And when I
> use kppp, the string ATZ receives an OK, and in minicom, some long AT
> string gets OK too.  It doesn't make any sense...
> 
> Ben suggests it may not even be reaching the modem.  Other programs do
> reach it, so there probably isn't some glaring configuration error...
> it's the ones that aren't obvious that get you...

i use minicom mostly to connect to internet via my modem (i like to do things
manually to be sure that they are really going as i want them to), and to get
open a ppp-connect, one should use (at leasti this is what i believe) pppd. 
minicom sets up a connection, but only a terminal.

i'm not sure if you ever got to the point where it asks you username and passw
with minicom. anyway, what happens after atdt? what does your
minicom say?


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Re: [techtalk] pppd problems, redhat 6.0

1999-11-07 Thread TheCoder

I missed the first thread of this problem so I apologize if I repeat something
already covered.

You may want to try turning the debuging output on for the dial up process by
editing
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0 and changing the line: 'DEBUG=' to
'DEBUG=yes'
Then when you bring up the interface you can run a 'tail -f /var/log/messages' to
see what process chat, pppd, etc and why...


sara korhonen wrote:

> > Um, we got the last bit figured out.. however, we still can't get it to
> > connect:  the modem initialization strings never receive an OK.  So it
> > waits 30 seconds, then fails.  We know this is really weird.  (And when I
> > use kppp, the string ATZ receives an OK, and in minicom, some long AT
> > string gets OK too.  It doesn't make any sense...
> >
> > Ben suggests it may not even be reaching the modem.  Other programs do
> > reach it, so there probably isn't some glaring configuration error...
> > it's the ones that aren't obvious that get you...
>
> i use minicom mostly to connect to internet via my modem (i like to do things
> manually to be sure that they are really going as i want them to), and to get
> open a ppp-connect, one should use (at leasti this is what i believe) pppd.
> minicom sets up a connection, but only a terminal.
>
> i'm not sure if you ever got to the point where it asks you username and passw
> with minicom. anyway, what happens after atdt? what does your
> minicom say?
>
> >
> > Conni
> > starting to think she's getting in over her head
> >
> > --
> > We are the Burgh.  Youns need assimilated.
> >   -John Moseman
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Re: [techtalk] pppd problems, redhat 6.0

1999-11-07 Thread jenn

Lighthouse Keeper in the Desert Sun wrote:

> Conni
> starting to think she's getting in over her head

That's usually when you start learning the really nifty stuff. :)

Stick with it.



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Re: [techtalk] pppd problems, redhat 6.0

1999-11-07 Thread Lighthouse Keeper in the Desert Sun

On Nov 7, sara korhonen conjectured:

> > Ben suggests it may not even be reaching the modem.  Other programs do
> > reach it, so there probably isn't some glaring configuration error...
> > it's the ones that aren't obvious that get you...
> 
> i use minicom mostly to connect to internet via my modem (i like to do things
> manually to be sure that they are really going as i want them to), and to get
> open a ppp-connect, one should use (at leasti this is what i believe) pppd. 
> minicom sets up a connection, but only a terminal.
> 
> i'm not sure if you ever got to the point where it asks you username and passw
> with minicom. anyway, what happens after atdt? what does your
> minicom say?

THe annex server that UNC has prompts for username and password.  THen it
gives the prompt UNC-CS-> at which you can type telnet, rlogin, ?, ppp,
hangup, or a few other options.  Under minicom, it gets to the cs->
prompt, so I type ppp, and it says "switching to ppp" then prints a long
string of $*^&*@-type stuff.  When I use another dialer, it prints half a
line of the stuff, then switches.  Minicom does that until it times out.

A friend of ours who has experience might be coming over to help me iron
out the bugs in both pppd and ip masquerading.  (I got the local bit set
up just fine.  The other computer on the network can't get out f the LAN.
Well, he can telnet into my machine and telnet out from there, but that
isn't quite the point of IP masquerading...)

THanks

COnni

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Re: [techtalk] pppd problems, redhat 6.0

1999-11-07 Thread sara korhonen



> THe annex server that UNC has prompts for username and password.  THen it
> gives the prompt UNC-CS-> at which you can type telnet, rlogin, ?, ppp,
> hangup, or a few other options.  Under minicom, it gets to the cs->
> prompt, so I type ppp, and it says "switching to ppp" then prints a long
> string of $*^&*@-type stuff.  When I use another dialer, it prints half a
> line of the stuff, then switches.  Minicom does that until it times out.

Haa, after there starts to come this crap, quite minicom, alt-q or esc-q and
(if pppd isn't set up to be suid, you must be root) say in a shell on your
computer: '/sbin/pppd /dev/modem defaultroute' and wait for like ten seconds.
That should make the connection.


sara




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Re: [techtalk] pppd problems, redhat 6.0

1999-11-07 Thread TheCoder

Just to make sure..  you do have the line
'CS->'   'ppp'
after the username / password info in your chat-ppp0 script correct?

> > THe annex server that UNC has prompts for username and password.  THen it
> > gives the prompt UNC-CS-> at which you can type telnet, rlogin, ?, ppp,
> > hangup, or a few other options.  Under minicom, it gets to the cs->
> > prompt, so I type ppp, and it says "switching to ppp"



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[techtalk] kmail issue...can't send ..ARG!

1999-11-07 Thread Kristin Ziel


Hi all--

My question first, and then some extraneous stuff..

I'm running kmail 1.0.20 and one day (a coupla months ago) I noticed this
problem...it suddenly started not sending mail.  It *looks* like the mail
is being sent..copy going into setmail directory, etc.  but it really
never goes anywhere. 

I was trying to figure  out how to get exmh going (masquerading my ISP)
but that wasn't getting anywhere...but I believe i have changed everything
back to the way it was (after discovering this kmail issue) and still
kmail is not working properly.  

I'd really *rather* get exmh working properly, as I think there are ton
more nifty things with that client..but i'd settle to get this kmail issue
resolved in the shortrun.

Any inputs and suggestions appreciated greatly!

As far as extraneous stuff goes...I just want to mention that I am new to
the list, and after reading through all the techtalk archives, I know that
I have found where I belong... 

over and out
kristin



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Re: [techtalk] pppd problems, redhat 6.0

1999-11-07 Thread Laurel Fan

Excerpts from linuxchix: 7-Nov-99 Re: [techtalk] pppd problem.. by
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> You may want to try turning the debuging output on for the dial up process by
> editing
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ppp0 and changing the line: 'DEBUG=' to
> 'DEBUG=yes'

Or, if you don't use redhat or something else with sysconfig, use the -d
option to pppd.



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[techtalk] Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:19:57 -0500

1999-11-07 Thread Chris Ritsert


I am looking for a new modem to use with Red Hat Linux 6.0.  I have 3 modems
and I can only get my old 2400 modem to work.  Does anyone have any
suggestions as to what I could buy that is currently on the market?

Thank you,

Chris



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Re: [techtalk] Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:19:57 -0500

1999-11-07 Thread Kristin Ziel



Chris--

I'd suggest an external one (unless you've got no room) because the lights
on an external can do all sorts of groovy things for you...

I personally have an internal, because the last thing I need is to have
another external device attached to my computer!   

I remember having a modem discussion a few years ago (95?) before I ever
bought my first computer, and I was told that Hayes was the way to go...I
am not sure if this information is still current/relevant.  I'm running on
a USR, just because I got a great deal on it, and couldn't pass it up.  

I don't know if anything I've told you is helpful or not..I am sure that
there is probably very decent support for most larger name brand modems
you're are going to find, but I am not savvy enough to know which ones
have the best support, and what is known to have frequent problems, etc.  

Kristin



> 
> I am looking for a new modem to use with Red Hat Linux 6.0.  I have 3 modems
> and I can only get my old 2400 modem to work.  Does anyone have any
> suggestions as to what I could buy that is currently on the market?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Chris
> 



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Re: [techtalk] kmail issue...can't send ..ARG!

1999-11-07 Thread Jeff Dike

Have a look in /var/log/maillog.  There might be some interesting error 
messages in it.

Jeff




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Re: [techtalk] Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:19:57 -0500

1999-11-07 Thread Dakota Surmonde


there's a school of thought that says external is the way to go...if so,
make sure you have a decent serial port if you want any sort of speed
(details on request, or someone else should have them..I just woke up,
it's too early to remember numbers :P )

personally, I find internal, ISA non-pnp modems work just fine. Jumpers
are good things. My current modem is a USR 56k, but the computer store I
used to work at sold generic jumper-set ISAs for around $50 that worked
just as well (I paid nearly $120 for this modem..I'm not sure it was worth
*that* much :) )

the important part is to avoid PNP and to avoid winmodems like the plaugue
they are.

Vinnie

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999, Chris Ritsert wrote:

> 
> I am looking for a new modem to use with Red Hat Linux 6.0.  I have 3 modems
> and I can only get my old 2400 modem to work.  Does anyone have any
> suggestions as to what I could buy that is currently on the market?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
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Re: [techtalk] Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:19:57 -0500

1999-11-07 Thread Caitlyn M. Martin

Chris Ritsert wrote:

> I am looking for a new modem to use with Red Hat Linux 6.0.  I have 3 modems
> and I can only get my old 2400 modem to work.  Does anyone have any
> suggestions as to what I could buy that is currently on the market?

Hi, Chris,

Any real modem will work.  Winmodems will absolutely *not* work.  Most
PCI modems are Winmodems.

I use a 3Com/US Robotics 56K Sportster external, and it works brilliantly.

Take care,
Caity





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Re: [techtalk] Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:19:57 -0500

1999-11-07 Thread J B


I remember having a modem discussion a few years ago (95?) before I ever 
bought my first computer, and I was told that Hayes was the way to go...I am 
not sure if this information is still current/relevant.


Hayes has (since almost a year ago) been liquidated for debts.  The pieces 
ent to basically all of the major TeleComm playerswith, IIRC, 3COM/USR 
getting the patents and research.

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Re: [techtalk] Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:19:57 -0500

1999-11-07 Thread TheCoder

I love my 3com ISA modem cards.  Just configure the com settings correctly and
add a /dev/modem symlink if necessary and you should be good to go.

Chris Ritsert wrote:

> I am looking for a new modem to use with Red Hat Linux 6.0.  I have 3 modems
> and I can only get my old 2400 modem to work.  Does anyone have any
> suggestions as to what I could buy that is currently on the market?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Chris
>
> 
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[techtalk] hayes information

1999-11-07 Thread Kristin Ziel


JB--

Thanks for the update...you can tell I haven't been reading my computer
mags either...

Kristin



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Re: [techtalk] kmail issue...can't send ..ARG!--fixed!

1999-11-07 Thread K. Ziel


Ooooh.  I didn't know that there was an error file there...I got a great hint,
and it worked out splendidly.  Do I have to tell what and give away my
stupidity? 

kristin--happy mail chick


On Sun, 07 Nov 1999, you wrote:
> Have a look in /var/log/maillog.  There might be some interesting error 
> messages in it.
> 
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Re: [techtalk] Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 13:19:57 -0500

1999-11-07 Thread Catie Flick

On  7 Nov, Kristin Ziel stumbled around in the dark a bit, turned on the light and 
wrote:
> 
> 
> Chris--
> 
> I'd suggest an external one (unless you've got no room) because the lights
> on an external can do all sorts of groovy things for you...
> 
> I personally have an internal, because the last thing I need is to have
> another external device attached to my computer!   



Chris, you'll find it difficult to find an internal modem that's not a
winmodem these days. It seems that distributers are going for cheap,
rather than quality (especially on integrated motherboards). 
I tried unsuccessfully to find an internal modem that wasn't a winmodem
- however, this is in Australia - perhaps there are more available in
America or other countries.
I bought (in the end) an Acer 56k modem - as far as I can tell, it's
been very nice to me :)
 Good luck,

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Re: [techtalk] kmail issue...can't send ..ARG!--fixed!

1999-11-07 Thread Jeff Dike

>  Do I have to tell what and give away my stupidity? 

Everybody's done stupid things.  Wanna trade "I can't believe I did that" 
stories :-)

Jeff




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Re: [techtalk] kmail issue...can't send ..ARG!--fixed!

1999-11-07 Thread K. Ziel

  

give me more than a day on the mailing list before i share my most humiliating
moments...

kristin--still the happy mail chick

> 
> Everybody's done stupid things.  Wanna trade "I can't believe I did that" 
> stories :-)
> 
>   Jeff
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Re: [techtalk] kmail issue...can't send ..ARG!--fixed!

1999-11-07 Thread Steve Kudlak



Jeff Dike wrote:

> >  Do I have to tell what and give away my stupidity? 
>
> Everybody's done stupid things.  Wanna trade "I can't believe I did that"
> stories :-)
>
> Jeff
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I am afariad I'd fill pages and pages of stupid things I have done. :) Sounds
like I'd need an entitre mailing list just for that topic!!!

Have Fun,
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Re: [techtalk] kmail issue...can't send ..ARG!

1999-11-07 Thread sara korhonen


> Have a look in /var/log/maillog.  There might be some interesting error 
> messages in it.

I work as a tech support and the first thing i ask, when this kind of problem
comes along is that which smtp-server is the customer using. you might wish to
check it out .. just in case. 


sara




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Re: [techtalk] I can't believe I did that (was: kmail issue...can't send ..ARG!--fixed!)

1999-11-07 Thread jenn

Jeff Dike wrote:
> 
> >  Do I have to tell what and give away my stupidity? 
> 
> Everybody's done stupid things.  Wanna trade "I can't believe I did that"
> stories :-)

Connecting a CD-rom cable to the CD-rom without shutting the machine down
first. I honestly thought I had, until I saw blue sparks.

Thankfully, it wasn't harmed. At all. Nor was I. But I double and triple
check nowadays! (This was when CD-roms were still expensive)


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