Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

2023-09-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


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> On 11 Sep 2023, at 08:39, Graeme Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> 
> foot:oneway=yes / oneway:foot=yes?


as „oneway“ is defined for vehicles only, „oneway:foot“ doesn’t make a lot of 
sense. The wiki suggests „foot:backward“ or „foot:forward“ as alternatives that 
follow the generic way of tagging restrictions.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:oneway#Pedestrians

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Re: [Tagging] Postal verses locational addresses

2023-09-11 Thread Greg Troxel
The fundamental issue is that there are postal addresses and what might
be called "civil addresses" or "physical addresses" ('locational' I
understand but is not normal English usage).  In the US, we also have
"911 dispatchable location" which is all about getting there physically
and is US-bureaucatic-speak.

OSM has decided to tag postal addresses on address points.   I find this
an odd choice, and I think it really doesn't mean this, as companies
that use PO boxes are not tagged that way, but with the street address.

The only fix I think of is to have a separate set of tags paddr: and a
rule that those should be set if they are different from the addr: tags
(which are postal).  except postcode, which is a postal-only.

It is further messy that there are postal addresses, and then addresses
that Fedex, UPS, DHL etc. deliver to.  In the US  mostly the post office
(USPS) maintains a database and people verify/match against it and those
are used as legitimate physical delivery addresses by non-USPS carriers.

All in all I think it was a mistake to tag postal addresses.  Maybe we
can just redefine addr:foo to be the physical address, except
addr:postcode is the code assigned by the government/monopoly delivery
service.  And then add some mailing address tag for things that need
them.

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Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

2023-09-11 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Not arguing, but

oneway:foot = 5024
foot:backward = 394
foot:forward = 300

Personally, I would interpret that as time that the wiki had a rewrite! :-)

Thanks

Graeme


On Mon, 11 Sept 2023 at 19:19, Martin Koppenhoefer 
wrote:

>
>
> sent from a phone
>
> On 11 Sep 2023, at 08:39, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
> wrote:
>
> foot:oneway=yes / oneway:foot=yes?
>
>
>
> as „oneway“ is defined for vehicles only, „oneway:foot“ doesn’t make a lot
> of sense. The wiki suggests „foot:backward“ or „foot:forward“ as
> alternatives that follow the generic way of tagging restrictions.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:oneway#Pedestrians
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