[Tagging] de facto -Status not working?

2022-12-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
It seems that for some reason "de facto" is not recognized as value in the
templates any more?

Cheers,
Martin
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Re: [Tagging] Homogenize diplomatic tags

2022-12-16 Thread Andy Townsend

On 16/12/2022 07:33, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:

If this edit was in violation of
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct
then I would recommend notifying DWG

(for the avoidance of any doubt) I am a member of the DWG, but this was 
not raised with the DWG as an issue.  I just encountered it as an 
ordinary mapper, albeit one with rather more experience of this sort of 
thing than most people.


Essentially, "I gave myself the advice that I would have given had it 
been reported to the DWG" - look at the data that has changed and the 
time that has passed, and figure out the best way forward.  As I said 
yesterday "Normally I'd suggest just reverting your undiscussed 
mechanical edits ... but this far on from the change I'm not convinced 
that would be the best approach". However I do believe that the people 
responsible for this mess tidy up the data in the wiki and fix the 
broken links.


As an aside, the code required to handle these objects has grown by 50% 
(from 33 lines to 50), partly because "diplomatic" sort of is a primary 
tag and sort of isn't ("office=diplomatic" is still a thing), and now 
includes comedy "no=yes" checks like '( keyvalues["diplomatic"] == 
"non_diplomatic")' 
https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/SomeoneElse-style/blob/master/style.lua#L1885 
, but I suspect that that ship has sailed a long time ago.


There hasn't yet been an acceptance that the approach used to change 
these tags was wrong (see 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/117329397 ).  To be clear - tag 
consolidation (where many tags really do mean the same thing) is a good 
idea, provided that the new schema isn't completely bonkers and 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct is 
followed to the letter.  Plenty of people do that (including you!) 
without causing any complaints.


Best Regards,

Andy

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Re: [Tagging] de facto -Status not working?

2022-12-16 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Can you link any of pages where it is happening?

For example https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:taxi_type
seems to work fine with it (though it seems dubious to have tag used 156 times 
as
"de facto")

16 gru 2022, 13:29 od dieterdre...@gmail.com:

> It seems that for some reason "de facto" is not recognized as value in the 
> templates any more? 
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>

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Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

2022-12-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 at 17:55, Marc_marc  wrote:

> Le 16.12.22 à 08:30, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging a écrit :
>
> > In this case amenity=lifeboat is - I expect - used to map lifeboat
> > stationing place, not lifeboat itself
>
> of course, like marina doesn't map boats but the mooring area
>

Yes, that is how they are being used, but the tag is being completed with
the name & details of the lifeboat itself, which, to me at least, infers
that this boat is always at this spot, & it isn't.

The other issue with the currently mapped info is that most of it appears
to have come from an unauthorised source.

Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

2022-12-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
 Possibly combine all existing tags under a new top tag
emergency=water_rescue?

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/emergency%3Dlifeboat_station#Replace_emergency=lifeboat_station_with_emergency=water_rescue

Thoughts & comments please?

Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

2022-12-16 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Further thoughts re air rescue, please.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/emergency%3Dlifeboat_station#Air_rescue

Thanks

Graeme


On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 at 11:05, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

> Possibly combine all existing tags under a new top tag
> emergency=water_rescue?
>
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/emergency%3Dlifeboat_station#Replace_emergency=lifeboat_station_with_emergency=water_rescue
>
> Thoughts & comments please?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graeme
>
>
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