Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Citadels

2022-10-18 Thread Casper Kersten
Voting is now open:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Citadel#Voting

Op ma 3 okt. 2022 om 22:53 schreef Casper Kersten :

> P.s. Citadels and fortresses were complementary for a city's defence, but
> do not always coexist. Also, some fortresses have been (partially)
> demolished but the citadel have been left largely intact, as is the case in
> Lille, France.
>
> Op ma 3 okt. 2022 om 22:49 schreef Casper Kersten <
> casperkerst...@gmail.com>:
>
>> @Martin Koppenhoefer That's a good question, and one I will surely
>> address on the proposal page.
>>
>> The short answer is that a fortress is the fortified city centre with its
>> city walls and defensive towers, and a citadel is a stand-alone
>> fortification inside or on the edge of it.
>>
>> A good example is Saint-Martin-de-Ré (
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/46.2026/-1.3657), where the
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/308616 is the fortress and
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/35814333 is the citadel.
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Vestingwerken_schema.svg shows
>> essentially the same thing.
>>
>> Op ma 3 okt. 2022 om 22:38 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer <
>> dieterdre...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am Mo., 3. Okt. 2022 um 22:30 Uhr schrieb Casper Kersten <
>>> casperkerst...@gmail.com>:
>>>
 I just created a proposal page to tag citadels:
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Citadel
 The proposed tag is castle_type=citadel.

 All feedback is welcome. Feel free to share it here, but I prefer to
 discuss the proposal on the Community Forum and on the discussion page on
 the Wiki.

 https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/rfc-proposal-to-tag-citadels/3570

>>>
>>>
>>> can you explain how it relates to
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:castle_type%3Dfortress ?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Martin
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Re: [Tagging] Use of crossing:island where crossings and islands are mapped separately

2022-10-18 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Have you tried writing to them using changeset comment?


Oct 17, 2022, 20:17 by r...@hubris.org.uk:

> The same user whose edits gave rise to the post below appears to have decided 
> to "standardise" crossing tagging on crossings in Newham, most of which I 
> have surveyed and mapped, with the following innovations:
>
> 1) tactile_paving=yes on crossing ways, although none of the ways have 
> tactile paving along their entire length. This may be a result of copying all 
> the tags from the crossing node to the way, but could be unhelpful for any 
> data consumers which expect tactile_paving=* to work as documented.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tactile_paving#Use_on_ways
>
> 2) removing crossing=no from highway=traffic_signals nodes where there is 
> either no crossing or a crossing which is mapped as a separate node. It's not 
> a necessary tag, but it's been used as documented in the 'How to map' section 
> of the wiki. I've added a sentence to the wiki for crossing=no referring to 
> highway=traffic_signals
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtraffic_signals#How_to_map_(new)
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:crossing&diff=prev&oldid=2421754
>
> 3) replacing traffic_signals=traffic_lights with the less-specific 
> traffic_signals=signal and traffic_signals=pedestrian_crossing with the 
> undocumented traffic_signals=crossing
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:traffic_signals
>
> I'm happy for my edits to be corrected when I make mistakes or misread the 
> wiki, which I'm sure happens more often than I imagine. However, it's rather 
> annoying to lose data to what appears to be an undiscussed and potentially 
> misguided personal project.
>
> On 27/09/2022 07:42, Robert Skedgell wrote:
>
>> Where there is a crossing with traffic islands, but the highways forming the 
>> crossings and crossing the islands are mapped separately, my assumption has 
>> been that crossing:island=no is the correct tagging.
>>
>> If a visually impaired user is being told to expect additional islands or 
>> refuges where none exist, this does not strike me as particularly safe.
>>
>> This wiki appears to agree with this:
>> "Do not tag a crossing with crossing:island=yes if the crossing is 
>> explicitly mapped as multiple separate crossings; i.e., where the traffic 
>> island is not part of the footway=crossing way. This is common with larger 
>> intersections with wide traffic islands where the traffic lane in each 
>> direction is mapped separately. For clarity, the stretches of 
>> highway=footway that form part of the traffic island can be tagged with 
>> footway=traffic_island. Additionally, the footway=crossing sections can 
>> optionally be tagged with crossing:island=no. This may be useful in case you 
>> are performing a survey of all crossings in an area and wish to explicitly 
>> mark these as having separate (or no) refuge islands."
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:crossing:island
>>
>> I haven't used footway|cycleway=traffic_island on the ways crossing the 
>> islands, possibly because JOSM and/or Osmose (incorrectly?) complain. 
>> Perhaps I should?
>>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Approved - migration to use belarusian as default language in Belarus for tagging

2022-10-18 Thread Paveł Tyślacki
Yep, notify people who have edits in Belarus for the last few years.



On Sun, 16 Oct 2022 at 06:41, Minh Nguyen 
wrote:

> Vào lúc 21:56 2022-10-15, bkil đã viết:
> > Why did I get a private message about this?
>
> I think they've been reaching out to everyone who's edited any of the
> relevant keys (name, destination, etc.) in Belarus to make sure there
> are no surprises. They must've cast a very thorough net.
>
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> m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us
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